• Night light settings

    From Jim S@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 27 14:30:31 2024
    I'm having eye trouble and Night Light settings does help.
    I would like to have it on all the time, but I cannot see how to do the
    except to set e.g. ON at 8.00 and off at 7.45.
    I've not had a whole day to try that yet. Will it work?
    PS is there a blue filter app like I have on my phone?
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    Jim the Geordie

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Jim S on Tue Aug 27 11:03:08 2024
    On Tue, 8/27/2024 9:30 AM, Jim S wrote:
    I'm having eye trouble and Night Light settings does help.
    I would like to have it on all the time, but I cannot see how to do the except to set e.g. ON at 8.00 and off at 7.45.
    I've not had a whole day to try that yet. Will it work?
    PS is there a blue filter app like I have on my phone?

    I think if you leave the Schedule "Off", then the
    top control works like a light switch, to turn the
    effect on immediately or off immediately.

    *******

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/Dy1Y64k5/night-light-has-on-off.gif

    The Windows 10 implementation uses a "fast ramp" to
    apply the effect, so it takes maybe ten seconds to
    settle to the brown color. The Windows 11 goes
    immediately brown, without the shift over ten seconds thing.

    (The ramp in Linux is played from a table of 500,000 values,
    to give some idea how long the ramp is for cases where it is
    applied at sunset. That's how they make it smooth, is use
    a lot of values, with tiny tiny shift between each one. That
    is what might happen if you used the schedule feature in Windows,
    something similar. Playback from a table of values.)

    Just don't use the schedule, and it looks like the on-off
    thing is a kind of all day setting.

    In principle, in the old days the "color temperature setting"
    would have done something similar. There were three color temperatures,
    and one of them was "correct for Windows" (my Trinitron had three settings).

    The gamma on Windows and Mac was different, so if you did photo processing
    and posted to both platforms, one of the platforms used to complain
    "oh, your picture is too dark". In the old days, it was color
    temperature which was used as a quick way to alter the blue
    content. A high color temperature is blue, a low color temperature
    is brown. One brand of monitors, seemed to make all their
    screens just a little too blue, as if corporately, they
    insisted on a higher color temperature for their products
    as a default, compared to competitors. If you had a Spyder
    and calibrated the screen, presumably all the screens could
    be dragged into doing identical display of content.

    You will notice in my screen shots, that the Night Light setting
    did not affect screen shots, and the screen shot will record
    the blue as it is captured in the original source, rather than
    capture the gamma overlay as well. The two squares on the right,
    should really have been brownish if the screenshot captured the
    screen as actually presented.

    Paul

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  • From Jim the Geordie@21:1/5 to Paul on Tue Aug 27 17:04:00 2024
    On 27/08/2024 16:03, Paul wrote:
    On Tue, 8/27/2024 9:30 AM, Jim S wrote:
    I'm having eye trouble and Night Light settings does help.
    I would like to have it on all the time, but I cannot see how to do the except to set e.g. ON at 8.00 and off at 7.45.
    I've not had a whole day to try that yet. Will it work?
    PS is there a blue filter app like I have on my phone?

    I think if you leave the Schedule "Off", then the
    top control works like a light switch, to turn the
    effect on immediately or off immediately.

    *******

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/Dy1Y64k5/night-light-has-on-off.gif

    The Windows 10 implementation uses a "fast ramp" to
    apply the effect, so it takes maybe ten seconds to
    settle to the brown color. The Windows 11 goes
    immediately brown, without the shift over ten seconds thing.

    (The ramp in Linux is played from a table of 500,000 values,
    to give some idea how long the ramp is for cases where it is
    applied at sunset. That's how they make it smooth, is use
    a lot of values, with tiny tiny shift between each one. That
    is what might happen if you used the schedule feature in Windows,
    something similar. Playback from a table of values.)

    Just don't use the schedule, and it looks like the on-off
    thing is a kind of all day setting.

    In principle, in the old days the "color temperature setting"
    would have done something similar. There were three color temperatures,
    and one of them was "correct for Windows" (my Trinitron had three settings).

    The gamma on Windows and Mac was different, so if you did photo processing and posted to both platforms, one of the platforms used to complain
    "oh, your picture is too dark". In the old days, it was color
    temperature which was used as a quick way to alter the blue
    content. A high color temperature is blue, a low color temperature
    is brown. One brand of monitors, seemed to make all their
    screens just a little too blue, as if corporately, they
    insisted on a higher color temperature for their products
    as a default, compared to competitors. If you had a Spyder
    and calibrated the screen, presumably all the screens could
    be dragged into doing identical display of content.

    You will notice in my screen shots, that the Night Light setting
    did not affect screen shots, and the screen shot will record
    the blue as it is captured in the original source, rather than
    capture the gamma overlay as well. The two squares on the right,
    should really have been brownish if the screenshot captured the
    screen as actually presented.

    Paul
    Makes sense.
    I'll try that

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    Jim the Geordie

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Jim S on Tue Aug 27 09:52:18 2024
    On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:30:31 +0100, Jim S wrote:
    I'm having eye trouble and Night Light settings does help.
    I would like to have it on all the time, but I cannot see how to do the except to set e.g. ON at 8.00 and off at 7.45.

    I don't use the timed automatic setting, but instead click the
    Notifications icon at the far fright of the taskbar, which brings up
    a panel of controls ghat includes Night Light. I click to turn it on
    or off.

    I suspect if you disable the timed on/off of Night Light and then
    turn it on manually, it will stay on until you turn it off I do know
    for sure that if Night Light is turned on when I shut down, it is
    still turned on when I start up again.


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    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Tue Aug 27 13:44:32 2024
    Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:30:31 +0100, Jim S wrote:
    I'm having eye trouble and Night Light settings does help.
    I would like to have it on all the time, but I cannot see how to do the
    except to set e.g. ON at 8.00 and off at 7.45.

    I don't use the timed automatic setting, but instead click the
    Notifications icon at the far fright of the taskbar, which brings up
    a panel of controls ghat includes Night Light. I click to turn it on
    or off.

    I suspect if you disable the timed on/off of Night Light and then
    turn it on manually, it will stay on until you turn it off I do know
    for sure that if Night Light is turned on when I shut down, it is
    still turned on when I start up again.

    Some folks, like me, minimize what option buttons are shown in the
    action center aka notification panel. I don't rememeber what are the
    default action buttons, but there were a slew of visual noise that I
    removed to just leave those that might be of use to me.

    If the Night Light button is missing for the OP, right-click in a blank
    spot in the action center panel, and click on Edit. Then click on Add
    to see a list, and pick Night Light from the entries. Of course, if you
    never want to toggle the setting, don't bother adding the button, and
    use the settings mentioned by Paul.

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