Of the three systems I use, the newest and fastest I use the least. I don't turn it off, but when I'm done I put it to sleep. It always amazes me on patch Tuesdays. I hit the keyboard to wake it up and before anything, even the ability to log in,the screen immediately pops up that windows is going to need to be restarted outside the usual hours. OK, how in the hell did the damn thing download the updates and begin installing them to the point of a restart when it was asleep? I've not seen this
Nothing is broken, I just am interested in how in the hell it can do this? Does this happen to any of you that have newer systems, too? Maybe it's just magic?
Of the three systems I use, the newest and fastest I use the least. I
don't turn it off, but when I'm done I put it to sleep. It always
amazes me on patch Tuesdays. I hit the keyboard to wake it up and
before anything, even the ability to log in, the screen immediately pops
up that windows is going to need to be restarted outside the usual
hours. OK, how in the hell did the damn thing download the updates and begin installing them to the point of a restart when it was asleep? I've
not seen this on any other machine.
Nothing is broken, I just am interested in how in the hell it can do
this? Does this happen to any of you that have newer systems, too?
Maybe it's just magic?
Of the three systems I use, the newest and fastest I use the least. I
don't turn it off, but when I'm done I put it to sleep. It always
amazes me on patch Tuesdays. I hit the keyboard to wake it up and
before anything, even the ability to log in, the screen immediately pops
up that windows is going to need to be restarted outside the usual
hours. OK, how in the hell did the damn thing download the updates and
begin installing them to the point of a restart when it was asleep?
I've not seen this on any other machine.
Nothing is broken, I just am interested in how in the hell it can do
this? Does this happen to any of you that have newer systems, too?
Maybe it's just magic?
[Late response due to extended absence.]
On August 14, sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
Of the three systems I use, the newest and fastest I use the least. I
don't turn it off, but when I'm done I put it to sleep. It always
amazes me on patch Tuesdays. I hit the keyboard to wake it up and
before anything, even the ability to log in, the screen immediately pops
up that windows is going to need to be restarted outside the usual
hours. OK, how in the hell did the damn thing download the updates and
begin installing them to the point of a restart when it was asleep?
Have you seen Carlos' response about wake timers? (AFAIK you didn't acknowledge that posting (or any others).)
I.e. the system can wake up, do something and go back to sleep without your involvement or knowing.
See the 'Allow wake timers' options in the 'Sleep' settings of the (Control Panel) 'Power Options' applet.
Also if you have a somewhat modern computer, it will probably use
'Modern Standby' instead of real sleep:
'Modern Standby vs S3' <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/modern-standby-vs-s3>
In any case, you may want to have a look at the 'Kernel-Power' entries
in the Event Viewer, to see if the system is really sleeping, when you
think it is:
Event Viewer -> (Local) -> Windows Logs -> 'System' event log
Hope this helps.
I've not seen this on any other machine.
Nothing is broken, I just am interested in how in the hell it can do
this? Does this happen to any of you that have newer systems, too?
Maybe it's just magic?
On 9/13/2024 9:28 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
I will have to check that machine tonight, but I'm fairly certain wake
timers are enabled as I use them for my weekly backups. It never
occurred to me windows would do updates using this method. Now that I'm thinking about it, I kind of like that it is already done, with the
exception of having to restart immediately. On that box it takes a
short time to do that. If this computer did the updates overnight it
would be quite a bit more of a nuisance. Though I now think I like the
idea and may want to see if I can get this slower one to do it too. Restarting may take 4-5 minutes where waiting for the complete update to finish and slowing this machine down to almost being unusable can take
far longer.
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 9/13/2024 9:28 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
I will have to check that machine tonight, but I'm fairly certain wake timers are enabled as I use them for my weekly backups. It never
occurred to me windows would do updates using this method. Now that I'm thinking about it, I kind of like that it is already done, with the exception of having to restart immediately. On that box it takes a
short time to do that. If this computer did the updates overnight it
would be quite a bit more of a nuisance. Though I now think I like the idea and may want to see if I can get this slower one to do it too. Restarting may take 4-5 minutes where waiting for the complete update to finish and slowing this machine down to almost being unusable can take
far longer.
Yes, that's the way I do it on our machines: Let Windows Update do the downloading and (partly) installing during the night (outside the
'Active hours') and let the system restart itself (also outside active hours). So everything is automatic and I don't have to wait in the
morning (except for the (re-)login).
If for some reason I do want to do things by hand, I just use 'Pause updates' and 'Resume updates' when it suits me.
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