• No one knows windows password, what to do?

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 13 16:45:11 2024
    No one knows windows password, what to do?

    I seem to be forgeting things that maybe I once knew, or maybe I didn't.
    My 84 yo brother just called and afaict the problem is he doesn't
    remember his windows password. All he can see is a picture of a couple mountains. I'm guessing it's the same background photo that I posted
    about several days ago. And a little box that wants his password which
    he does not know.

    His wife uses the same computer, rarely, for years rarely, and she says
    she doesn't know how to log in either. (She uses mostly the phone, and
    I'm told doesn't read her email anymore.)

    If neither of them know their password(s), is there a way to get past
    that, wihout deleting the data that is on the computer already? Like
    his resume.

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  • From Jim the Geordie@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 13 23:56:50 2024
    In article <6qgnbj5ppp89h2eoikbgjc4n0hnsr334ri@4ax.com>, NONONOmisc07 @fmguy.com says...

    No one knows windows password, what to do?

    I seem to be forgeting things that maybe I once knew, or maybe I didn't.
    My 84 yo brother just called and afaict the problem is he doesn't
    remember his windows password. All he can see is a picture of a couple mountains. I'm guessing it's the same background photo that I posted
    about several days ago. And a little box that wants his password which
    he does not know.

    His wife uses the same computer, rarely, for years rarely, and she says
    she doesn't know how to log in either. (She uses mostly the phone, and
    I'm told doesn't read her email anymore.)

    If neither of them know their password(s), is there a way to get past
    that, wihout deleting the data that is on the computer already? Like
    his resume.

    Too late for him, but I keep all my passwords in Google Keep notes and
    OneNote in a kind of code that I recognise.
    My real password I have posted to my kids.

    --
    Jim the Geordie

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  • From Vladimir Putin@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Aug 13 22:59:00 2024
    On 13/08/2024 21:45, micky wrote:
    No one knows windows password, what to do?

    I seem to be forgeting things that maybe I once knew, or maybe I didn't.
    My 84 yo brother just called and afaict the problem is he doesn't
    remember his windows password. All he can see is a picture of a couple mountains. I'm guessing it's the same background photo that I posted
    about several days ago. And a little box that wants his password which
    he does not know.

    His wife uses the same computer, rarely, for years rarely, and she says
    she doesn't know how to log in either. (She uses mostly the phone, and
    I'm told doesn't read her email anymore.)

    If neither of them know their password(s), is there a way to get past
    that, wihout deleting the data that is on the computer already? Like
    his resume.


    <https://youtu.be/Us_m0KVHTMg?si=qSFzq8KTr5__sRMZ>

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Aug 13 17:47:02 2024
    On 8/13/2024 3:45 PM, micky wrote:
    No one knows windows password, what to do?

    I seem to be forgeting things that maybe I once knew, or maybe I didn't.
    My 84 yo brother just called and afaict the problem is he doesn't
    remember his windows password. All he can see is a picture of a couple mountains. I'm guessing it's the same background photo that I posted
    about several days ago. And a little box that wants his password which
    he does not know.

    His wife uses the same computer, rarely, for years rarely, and she says
    she doesn't know how to log in either. (She uses mostly the phone, and
    I'm told doesn't read her email anymore.)

    If neither of them know their password(s), is there a way to get past
    that, wihout deleting the data that is on the computer already? Like
    his resume.




    Yes, There are a number of utilities to do so

    Hiren's boot CD contains one such utility


    Win7 PE live is another

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  • From D@21:1/5 to micky on Wed Aug 14 01:27:17 2024
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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 14 04:57:37 2024
    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 16:45:11 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
    wrote:

    No one knows windows password, what to do?

    I seem to be forgeting things that maybe I once knew, or maybe I didn't.
    My 84 yo brother just called and afaict the problem is he doesn't
    remember his windows password. All he can see is a picture of a couple >mountains. I'm guessing it's the same background photo that I posted
    about several days ago. And a little box that wants his password which
    he does not know.

    I've never set up my computer with a Windows password, but one of the
    reasons I've never bothered much with Windows networking is that no
    we've never used a password for that, it sometimes asks for one. when
    there isn't one.

    So it's easier to exchange files with my wife or son using USB flash
    drives. Theoretically they should be able to use the printer attached
    to my computer over the network, but it's so erratic that it's easiest
    just to put it in the "toprint" directory on a flash drive.

    But if there is any way to stop it asking for a network password, I'd
    love to hear it.


    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
    E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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  • From MR@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Wed Aug 14 05:16:58 2024
    On 14/08/2024 03:57, Steve Hayes wrote:
    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 16:45:11 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
    wrote:

    No one knows windows password, what to do?

    I seem to be forgeting things that maybe I once knew, or maybe I didn't.
    My 84 yo brother just called and afaict the problem is he doesn't
    remember his windows password. All he can see is a picture of a couple
    mountains. I'm guessing it's the same background photo that I posted
    about several days ago. And a little box that wants his password which
    he does not know.
    I've never set up my computer with a Windows password, but one of the
    reasons I've never bothered much with Windows networking is that no
    we've never used a password for that, it sometimes asks for one. when
    there isn't one.

    So it's easier to exchange files with my wife or son using USB flash
    drives. Theoretically they should be able to use the printer attached
    to my computer over the network, but it's so erratic that it's easiest
    just to put it in the "toprint" directory on a flash drive.

    But if there is any way to stop it asking for a network password, I'd
    love to hear it.



    if there is no password set then simply pressing return will/should
    work. Pressing return tells the computer that the password is null.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to micky on Wed Aug 14 00:20:12 2024
    On Tue, 8/13/2024 4:45 PM, micky wrote:
    No one knows windows password, what to do?

    I seem to be forgeting things that maybe I once knew, or maybe I didn't.
    My 84 yo brother just called and afaict the problem is he doesn't
    remember his windows password. All he can see is a picture of a couple mountains. I'm guessing it's the same background photo that I posted
    about several days ago. And a little box that wants his password which
    he does not know.

    His wife uses the same computer, rarely, for years rarely, and she says
    she doesn't know how to log in either. (She uses mostly the phone, and
    I'm told doesn't read her email anymore.)

    If neither of them know their password(s), is there a way to get past
    that, wihout deleting the data that is on the computer already? Like
    his resume.

    Windows 10:

    MSA account: Uses an email address james@gmail.com
    Has three recovery questions ("What was my dogs first name?")
    Has smartphone and SMS recovery procedures.

    Local account: Password flatten with Hiren.

    Password crack with Kali and John the Ripper (cracking is only for surreptitious entry)

    "Become Administrator" using hack. osk.exe and stickykeys hacks being examples.
    Microsoft has plugged these hacks, with Windows Defender. An administrator can
    edit other accounts later if you want. Or, you can do it from the command prompt.
    I helped someone do this successfully, but it took a *LOT* of messages :-)

    Here is a slight twist on a traditional (local account only!) hack of that sort.
    Has this been plugged ? Who knows.

    https://4sysops.com/archives/reset-windows-10-password-by-disabling-windows-defender/

    The details aren't "tight" enough, for a user in trouble to use the article directly. They might still need help (narrow down the commands to be issued
    so they can concentrate on that part). And since it is local account material, it doesn't help if they were "james@gmail.com" and set up the machine the
    way Microsoft asked them to. I use a local account "Bullwinkle" and set up
    my accounts based on that, which means I have hacking options if things went wrong.

    summary: I expect our "victims" were tricked into using an MSA.
    In which case, the recovery procedure is fraught with rough edges.
    If "someone else" set up their machine, it might be using local accounts.
    Then the options are different.

    Using Kali, would be if you wanted to break into a computer in some sense.
    Whereas the other methods leave "footprints" that the machine has been
    altered, so you would do a sethc.exe hack only if the owner of the machine
    was sitting next to you while you did it.

    Paul

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