• PT for Windows. Would this be a red flag to you?

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 16 12:30:41 2024
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.comp.hardware

    So far I can't find the Acer Aspire premium laptop anywhere else, even
    at acer.com/us-en/laptops! Is premium just some Amazon advertizing
    word and they don't say what the model is? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D63QRTTK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2HR3WADFB8IU9&psc=1

    I wanted to find out how much it weighs, but now I also wonder why it's
    so hard to find.

    And what is a WOWPC bundle that's supposed to be included but wasn't in
    one review? Is that world of warcraft? That's all that google came
    up with. Oh, searching the ad for WOW, I see that that is the vendor.
    It's neither sold nor shipped by Amazon. No wonder it doesn't use a
    real model name. Is this a red flag? A disqualifying red flag?

    Would you bothter to look at the vendor's review page?

    Oydisen WOWPC gets 85% positive in the last 12 months. https://www.amazon.com/sp?ie=UTF8&seller=A2HR3WADFB8IU9&asin=B0D63QRTTK&ref_=dp_merchant_link

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Tue Jul 16 13:00:40 2024
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.comp.hardware

    In alt.comp.hardware, on Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:56:06 GMT,
    scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes:
    So far I can't find the Acer Aspire premium laptop anywhere else, even
    at acer.com/us-en/laptops! Is premium just some Amazon advertizing >>word and they don't say what the model is? >>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D63QRTTK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2HR3WADFB8IU9&psc=1

    I wanted to find out how much it weighs, but now I also wonder why it's
    so hard to find.

    It was right there on the amazon listing. 3.5 pounds.

    Oh, yeah, don't I feel stupid. Looked at a lot of ads this morning but
    that doesn't really explain it. Thanks.

    I wrote to the vendor to find out what model it is. If you click on
    the vendor name on the product page, in the upper right corner is a link
    to ask a question, which I never noticed and had to google to find.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Jul 16 16:56:06 2024
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.comp.hardware

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes:
    So far I can't find the Acer Aspire premium laptop anywhere else, even
    at acer.com/us-en/laptops! Is premium just some Amazon advertizing
    word and they don't say what the model is? >https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D63QRTTK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2HR3WADFB8IU9&psc=1

    I wanted to find out how much it weighs, but now I also wonder why it's
    so hard to find.

    It was right there on the amazon listing. 3.5 pounds.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to ...winston on Tue Jul 16 23:59:14 2024
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.comp.hardware

    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:23:02 -0400,
    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    So far I can't find the Acer Aspire premium laptop anywhere else, even
    at acer.com/us-en/laptops! Is premium just some Amazon advertizing
    word and they don't say what the model is?
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D63QRTTK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2HR3WADFB8IU9&psc=1

    I wanted to find out how much it weighs, but now I also wonder why it's
    so hard to find.

    And what is a WOWPC bundle that's supposed to be included but wasn't in
    one review? Is that world of warcraft? That's all that google came
    up with. Oh, searching the ad for WOW, I see that that is the vendor.
    It's neither sold nor shipped by Amazon. No wonder it doesn't use a
    real model name. Is this a red flag? A disqualifying red flag?

    Would you bothter to look at the vendor's review page?

    Oydisen WOWPC gets 85% positive in the last 12 months.
    https://www.amazon.com/sp?ie=UTF8&seller=A2HR3WADFB8IU9&asin=B0D63QRTTK&ref_=dp_merchant_link

    Not all models sold on 3rd party retailing sites or even big box
    retailers are sold on the Acer web site. Some may have been available
    on the web iste in the past just as never being available(on the web site)
    - i.e. devices are built specifically for the retailer or 3rd party
    distributor.

    Good points. But also, there is not a single hit in Google for
    Acer Aspire Premium,
    except for the two ads that Amazon is selling , and those both come from
    this same rebuilder. I think he's just saying it's a premium model but
    he plans not to say what it is until it's delivered. It might even
    vary. Is it a serious red flag that he won't say up front what model
    it is? I wrote him. Amazon said they usually reply in two days.

    I asked Amazon what model is this and it said:
    Acer Aspire, featuring an AMD Ryzen 5 5500U processor, 15.6" Full HD
    display, and Windows 11 Pro

    I asked in the same place what sub-model is it, and it said"
    The product details indicate it is an Acer Aspire laptop with an AMD
    Ryzen 5 5500U processor, 64GB RAM, and 1TB SSD. This model is from
    Acer's Aspire line of budget laptops designed for everyday use.

    So here they say it's budget but the seller calls it premium.

    My current Acer is an Aspire E5-573, althought the sticker that is still
    on it calls it an E15. That's a strange seeming contradiction but it
    doesn't change that in my experience every Acer Aspire has a sub-model
    that is usually mentioned, especially in for-sale ads.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to hubops@ccanoemail.com on Tue Jul 16 23:34:26 2024
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.comp.hardware

    In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:35:59 -0400,
    hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:

    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 12:30:41 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
    wrote:

    So far I can't find the Acer Aspire premium laptop anywhere else, even
    at acer.com/us-en/laptops! Is premium just some Amazon advertizing >>word and they don't say what the model is? >>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D63QRTTK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2HR3WADFB8IU9&psc=1

    I wanted to find out how much it weighs, but now I also wonder why it's
    so hard to find.

    And what is a WOWPC bundle that's supposed to be included but wasn't in

    Wowpc turned out to be the refurbisher, so it's something they include.

    one review? Is that world of warcraft? That's all that google came
    up with. Oh, searching the ad for WOW, I see that that is the vendor. >>It's neither sold nor shipped by Amazon. No wonder it doesn't use a
    real model name. Is this a red flag? A disqualifying red flag?

    Would you bothter to look at the vendor's review page?

    Oydisen WOWPC gets 85% positive in the last 12 months. >>https://www.amazon.com/sp?ie=UTF8&seller=A2HR3WADFB8IU9&asin=B0D63QRTTK&ref_=dp_merchant_link



    For many years - from the time my eldest went off to college -
    I've been buying re-furb ThinkPad T-series laptops -
    with never a problem or complaint.

    the only new computer I ever bought was in 1884 a PC Jr, when that was
    iirc about the only one around at a low price, $1100 with 14 proof of
    purchas from Kimberly-Clark or some company like that. Unfortunately
    they stopped selling it 3 months later, but I was still able to use it
    and just it for almost 10 years, and I even remoted in to work a few
    times when I was on call (steel plant).

    Then I bought an XT that was in pieces, then I "built", assembled my
    own, but didn't save any money afaik and since I dont' need anything
    special, like gaming, I haven't done that again.

    Then used computers at hamfests, a little ACER to run XP bought on ebay
    I think. reconditioned by Amazon, two free ones from a friend whose
    business upgraded, and some I don't remember

    The one time I bought a new laptop - for my youngest off-to-college -
    it was an Acer - on sale for ~ the same as a refurb ThinkPad.
    .. it started having problems at 13 months and she needed
    a replacement before her second year was done.

    I've had good luck with Acer, the little one that was my frist laptop,
    and the one I'm using now that's given me no trouble except the battery
    wore out about a month ago. New batter and everything is fine again.

    Here's just one example of a refurb seller in Toronto -
    presently no ThinkPad T but they come & go quickly -
    - prices are Canadian dollars - you do the math.

    https://www.infotechcomputers.ca/product-category/refurbished-laptops/

    I'm thinking this might be my last laptop and that refurbished ones
    won't have all the new bells and whistles. Plus I'm still living in
    thrifty mode. I have no children and no one but charities to leave my
    money to, and all the paid** staff of the charties live better than I
    do, so what am I saving my money for? Especially since we're only
    talking about an extra 300 to 400 dollars.

    **The last time I mentioned somewhere that the people who work for
    charities live better than I do, I got a complaint that they work for
    free. I know most do work for free, but I was referring to the paid
    staff, so now I specified that. They all live middle-income lives or
    higher, some much higher, whereas I'm still living lower-middle, I'm
    not complaining. I could spend more money if I wanted and maybe I want
    to on a new computer. But really, only if it has something a used or reconditioned one doesn't have. (And 800 is still out of the question.
    :-) )

    John T.

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to micky on Wed Jul 17 00:10:21 2024
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.comp.hardware

    micky wrote:
    So far I can't find the Acer Aspire premium laptop anywhere else, even
    at acer.com/us-en/laptops! Is premium just some Amazon advertizing
    word and they don't say what the model is? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D63QRTTK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2HR3WADFB8IU9&psc=1

    I wanted to find out how much it weighs, but now I also wonder why it's
    so hard to find.

    And what is a WOWPC bundle that's supposed to be included but wasn't in
    one review? Is that world of warcraft? That's all that google came
    up with. Oh, searching the ad for WOW, I see that that is the vendor.
    It's neither sold nor shipped by Amazon. No wonder it doesn't use a
    real model name. Is this a red flag? A disqualifying red flag?

    Would you bothter to look at the vendor's review page?

    Oydisen WOWPC gets 85% positive in the last 12 months. https://www.amazon.com/sp?ie=UTF8&seller=A2HR3WADFB8IU9&asin=B0D63QRTTK&ref_=dp_merchant_link

    Personal preference...
    I like Lenovo Thinkpads. I use an old Thinkpad and a newer one every
    day for work, 6-7 days per week, often at remote locations. They are
    durable. They are easily repairable by me. Parts and diagrams are
    readily available. They have mouse buttons at the track pad and a
    little red cursor mover button. Acer does not have mouse buttons at the
    track pad or the mouse mover button. For those reasons I would never
    buy an Acer. An Acer might be ok for someone that sits at a desk all
    day, has an actual mouse, and never needs to take the laptop anywhere,
    but that is not for me.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to ...winston on Wed Jul 17 11:27:43 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:44:41 -0400,
    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote: ......


    I'd avoid the device branded Premium from Oydisen Electronics
    - Acer web site sold devices with 32GB RAM are primarily the high end
    gaming laptops. Aspire models, past and current top out at 16GB RAM and
    most with 8GB.
    - WOWPC imo is a marketing gimmick, the term added to the company name
    Oydisen.

    An Acer Aspire with an Ryzen 5 5500 AMD chip(initial release date 2021
    and supposedly comparable to Intel 11th gen i5) is likely an Oydisen
    yank old RAM and replace with extra RAM to make it look more marketable.

    You might be better off spending a few extra $ on a device like these
    (if Amazon is your preferred retailer, and Acer Aspire models)

    <https://www.amazon.com/Acer-6-Cores-Graphics-Backlit-Keyboard/dp/B0BYZ4L2NW>
    Win11 Home, Pro available at additional cost, ?Aspire 5 A515

    <https://www.amazon.com/i5-1135G7-Graphics-Backlit-Keyboard-Fingerprint/dp/B0CCHRS9ZF>
    Win10 Pro, Aspire 5 A515

    Note: the above models/links are provided for reference only.
    As an Acer owner(I would be more likely to buy direct from Acer or
    Costco, the latter to get the extra year of warranty).


    Then there's these about Oydisen Electronics ><https://www.bbb.org/us/de/newark/profile/online-retailer/oydisen-electronics-0251-92022982>

    I didn't know a memory module could fail.

    <https://www.bbb.org/us/de/newark/profile/online-retailer/oydisen-electronics-0251-92022982/customer-reviews>

    Wow. I should have checked the BBB.

    You've more than convinced me.

    Related, I've seen two laptops that come with 40GB ram. Not an exponent
    of 2 like all the other values. How do they do this?

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Houston TX on Wed Jul 17 11:52:57 2024
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.comp.hardware

    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:10:21 -0500, Paul in
    Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    So far I can't find the Acer Aspire premium laptop anywhere else, even
    at acer.com/us-en/laptops! Is premium just some Amazon advertizing
    word and they don't say what the model is?
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D63QRTTK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2HR3WADFB8IU9&psc=1

    I wanted to find out how much it weighs, but now I also wonder why it's
    so hard to find.

    And what is a WOWPC bundle that's supposed to be included but wasn't in
    one review? Is that world of warcraft? That's all that google came
    up with. Oh, searching the ad for WOW, I see that that is the vendor.
    It's neither sold nor shipped by Amazon. No wonder it doesn't use a
    real model name. Is this a red flag? A disqualifying red flag?

    Would you bothter to look at the vendor's review page?

    Oydisen WOWPC gets 85% positive in the last 12 months.
    https://www.amazon.com/sp?ie=UTF8&seller=A2HR3WADFB8IU9&asin=B0D63QRTTK&ref_=dp_merchant_link

    Personal preference...
    I like Lenovo Thinkpads. I use an old Thinkpad and a newer one every
    day for work, 6-7 days per week, often at remote locations. They are >durable. They are easily repairable by me. Parts and diagrams are
    readily available. They have mouse buttons at the track pad and a

    All good, important things for me to know.

    little red cursor mover button. Acer does not have mouse buttons at the >track pad or the mouse mover button. For those reasons I would never

    You're supposed to rock the whole thing, but I've never gotten good at
    it, especially when it's time to hold the mouse key down and move the
    cursor at the same time.

    buy an Acer. An Acer might be ok for someone that sits at a desk all
    day, has an actual mouse, and never needs to take the laptop anywhere,
    but that is not for me.

    Thanks.

    I have taken the current Acer to Europe twice, for a total of 5 months,
    and 3 weeks in Guatemala, but I never got used to a laptop keyboard,
    because the keys don't tell me clearly enough where my fingers are.

    So I always carry a mouse and full-size keyboard. I lived half of those
    5 months in the car, would use the computer in the morning and before
    sleeping, but still with the mouse. To read my email and plan my
    sightseeing for the next day. I red newsgroups but not as diligently
    when I'm away from home.

    I used to sleep in the passenger seat so the steering wheel wouldn't be
    in my way but it became too much trouble to move all the junk off that
    seat, pile it on the driver's seat, and move it back in the morning, so
    I tried the driver's seat and the wheel and the pedals didn't really get
    in my way. I would roll up some clothes and put them behind my neck,
    and use a shirt as a blanket To use the laptop, I would pile some
    clothes on the passenger seat so it was level. have the keyboard between
    my belly and the steering wheel, and use the mouse on my leg.

    Now that I know about winkey + H, speech to text, this should be even
    easier.

    Powered from the "cigarette lighter".

    When I started doing this I would put the seat back all the way
    (European seatbacks all seem to recline a lot) and I would look for a
    hill to park facing uphill so I would be as close to horizontal as
    possible. But as time went on, I stopped looking for a hill and only
    recline the seat one notch. I could sleep unti the dawn's early light,
    and later I learned how to sleep until 9, not let the sun wake me up.

    I've done this 3 nights in the USA too.

    I often have back pain from sleeping on my side, during the night and up
    to 20 minutes after I wake up, so at home, when I fall asleep in my desk
    chair it is the most restful I have, but I can't sleep more than an hour
    or two, and often can't fall sleep here at all. Similarly sitting up in
    bad. I don't know why I can sleep much longer in the car.

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  • From Char Jackson@21:1/5 to micky on Wed Jul 17 23:10:14 2024
    On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 11:27:43 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    Related, I've seen two laptops that come with 40GB ram. Not an exponent
    of 2 like all the other values. How do they do this?

    If two slots are populated, it might be 32 + 8.
    If three slots are populated, it might be 16 + 16 + 8.
    If four slots are populated, it might be 16 + 16 + 4 + 4.

    I think the laptops that I've seen lately tend to have just two RAM slots.

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