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I've been having problems connecting to the internet with my Acer Aspire
E5-573 laptop which is almost 10 years old, but normally works fine.

Running win 10 Home fully updated.

Both the ethernet and the wifi, or at least ethernet, worked 90 minutes
ago but then stop working.

Meanwhile the desktop computer is connected by ethernet cable to the
same router, it and the laptop are running at the same time, and the
dektop has no problems!!!

A) Is there any chance that having a dead laptop battery (0% Available) contributes to the problem?? I've bought a new one but have not put it
in yet.

For 2 or 3 years, I've had a problem that if I have ethernet connected,
after a day or two, it stops working and I have to unplug it, and then
wifi will take over. Then after a day or two, it will stop working and I
can just plug in the ethernet and it starts working again. Even though
I've done nothing else.

When I was in Guatemala for 3 weeks in January, I used the phone as a
hotspot and it always worked, and when I got back, the problem in the
previous paragraph had disappeared, for a couple weeks or more, aand
later came back but with nowhere near the frequency.

But two days ago, wifi or iirc both would not work.

Clicking on the globe icon in the systray gave the message: Unidentified network. No internet.

The troubleshooter wanted to reset my wifi settings, and said it would
undo any add-ons or changes I'd made. I don't believe I've ever made
any but I let it do it, it deleted the passwords for both wifi channels,
and after I reenteed the password (same one in each) both worked. Then
I had 5 minutes before it did it's promised rebooot. I wanted to stop
it but didn't know how. But wifi continued to work fine after
rebooting.

Now only two days later, neither system works.

For ethernet, the troubleshooter says
Investigate router or broadband modem issues Failed
Reset the "Ethernet" adapter Completed.

But I still have "Unidentified network. No internet", with the cable
plugged in,
and without the cable. "Not connected, no connections are available".

How to fix this??
Is it just going to get more frequent?
Should I buy a new laptop?
If so, I still need to fix it until I buy one.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 09 Jul 2024 17:41:56 -0400, nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:

I've been having problems connecting to the internet with my Acer Aspire >E5-573 laptop which is almost 10 years old, but normally works fine.

Running win 10 Home fully updated.

Both the ethernet and the wifi, or at least ethernet, worked 90 minutes
ago but then stop working.

Well, my bad, sort of. And thanks to anyone who has already answered.

I did restart the router before I posted, but I didnt' restart windows.
I guess that's because it was working 60 minutes earlier. (Is that a
good excuse?)

The only change I made had been 6 hours earlier. Could it be related? I
had for years gotten a message, FWIW,
PXE-E53, no boot filename received, exiting pxe-rom.
which meant that it tried to boot from a network but coudn't find a
filename to use.
I had network boooting last in the boot order, but I somehow had
missed another page of the BIOS where Network Boot was enabled. I
disabled it today, it started fine, no longer gave any startup messages,
and wifi or ethernet or both worked fine for hours. Then they stopped. Coincidence? Related?

I don't know why it was enabled in the first place. I was given the
computer by a friend who used it in his small business. He had a server
for computers at the office. Would that have been the reason for
network booting??? To boot from the server. Even though the laptops
were used by his technicians in the field (where I guess they had no
internet 12 years ago, since they were only looking at their pre-loaded
work schedule, looking at already downloaded product documentation
(burglar alarms), and taking notes on, making a record of the work they
had done.)

If that was the reason for network booting, even though there were so
few settings, I'm not very surprised I didn't hunt harder or notice
this was enabled.

So maybe that's why it was enabled, but that still leaves the question,
Was it a coincidence that disabling it let me connect to the internet at
that point, but stopped 6 hours later???

It's nice to get this stuff to work but it leaves me in a quandary when
I don't understand how things work and don't work.

Micky.

Meanwhile the desktop computer is connected by ethernet cable to the
same router, it and the laptop are running at the same time, and the
dektop has no problems!!!

A) Is there any chance that having a dead laptop battery (0% Available) >contributes to the problem?? I've bought a new one but have not put it
in yet.

For 2 or 3 years, I've had a problem that if I have ethernet connected,
after a day or two, it stops working and I have to unplug it, and then
wifi will take over. Then after a day or two, it will stop working and I
can just plug in the ethernet and it starts working again. Even though
I've done nothing else.

When I was in Guatemala for 3 weeks in January, I used the phone as a
hotspot and it always worked, and when I got back, the problem in the >previous paragraph had disappeared, for a couple weeks or more, aand
later came back but with nowhere near the frequency.

But two days ago, wifi or iirc both would not work.

Clicking on the globe icon in the systray gave the message: Unidentified >network. No internet.

The troubleshooter wanted to reset my wifi settings, and said it would
undo any add-ons or changes I'd made. I don't believe I've ever made
any but I let it do it, it deleted the passwords for both wifi channels,
and after I reenteed the password (same one in each) both worked. Then
I had 5 minutes before it did it's promised rebooot. I wanted to stop
it but didn't know how. But wifi continued to work fine after
rebooting.

Now only two days later, neither system works.

For ethernet, the troubleshooter says
Investigate router or broadband modem issues Failed
Reset the "Ethernet" adapter Completed.

But I still have "Unidentified network. No internet", with the cable
plugged in,
and without the cable. "Not connected, no connections are available".

How to fix this??
Is it just going to get more frequent?
Should I buy a new laptop?
If so, I still need to fix it until I buy one.

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On 7/9/2024 5:41 PM, nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:

I've been having problems connecting to the internet with my Acer Aspire E5-573 laptop which is almost 10 years old, but normally works fine.

Running win 10 Home fully updated.

Both the ethernet and the wifi, or at least ethernet, worked 90 minutes
ago but then stop working.

Meanwhile the desktop computer is connected by ethernet cable to the
same router, it and the laptop are running at the same time, and the
dektop has no problems!!!

A) Is there any chance that having a dead laptop battery (0% Available) contributes to the problem?? I've bought a new one but have not put it
in yet.

For 2 or 3 years, I've had a problem that if I have ethernet connected,
after a day or two, it stops working and I have to unplug it, and then
wifi will take over. Then after a day or two, it will stop working and I
can just plug in the ethernet and it starts working again. Even though
I've done nothing else.

When I was in Guatemala for 3 weeks in January, I used the phone as a
hotspot and it always worked, and when I got back, the problem in the previous paragraph had disappeared, for a couple weeks or more, aand
later came back but with nowhere near the frequency.

But two days ago, wifi or iirc both would not work.

Clicking on the globe icon in the systray gave the message: Unidentified network. No internet.

The troubleshooter wanted to reset my wifi settings, and said it would
undo any add-ons or changes I'd made. I don't believe I've ever made
any but I let it do it, it deleted the passwords for both wifi channels,
and after I reenteed the password (same one in each) both worked. Then
I had 5 minutes before it did it's promised rebooot. I wanted to stop
it but didn't know how. But wifi continued to work fine after
rebooting.

Now only two days later, neither system works.

For ethernet, the troubleshooter says
Investigate router or broadband modem issues Failed
Reset the "Ethernet" adapter Completed.

But I still have "Unidentified network. No internet", with the cable
plugged in,
and without the cable. "Not connected, no connections are available".

How to fix this??
Is it just going to get more frequent?
Should I buy a new laptop?
If so, I still need to fix it until I buy one.

Hi, Micky.

My RealTek NIC was cutting out after about 30 seconds or so.
As far as I can remember, under both Win10 and Win11. The
ASIX USB3 to GbE always seemed to work when I plugged it in
(that's my emergency NIC, and it's seen way more emergencies
than I ever expected it would). What is interesting, is W10 and
W11 had the RealTek NIC cut out, while testing on Linux showed
no problem with the RealTek at all. Hmmm.

I eventually settled on an Intel PCIe form factor replacement card, as
a replacement for the soldered-to-motherboard RealTek.

The RealTek driver did not seem to have been changed. The driver likely
was installed well before that happened. (I looked at dates as best I could.)

Initially I thought that maybe it was a DNS issue, but that
was not it. It just stops and drops dead, 30 seconds after
the desktop comes up. Does not matter if it was sending a DNS
query, or a packet for a news site. Almost like a delayed-start
service was knocking it out.

*******

This is an example of an ASIX-based adapter (for emergency internetz).

https://www.amazon.ca/UGREEN-Ethernet-1000Mbps-Compatible-Nintendo/dp/B00MYTSN18

"Speed Up to 5Gbps: This USB rj45 network adapter with full 10 100 1000Mbps
gigabit ethernet performance over USB 3.0's 5Gbps bus, faster and more
reliable than most wireless connections." <=== (an attempt at exaggeration)

The USB3 has sufficient bandwidth to handle the 112MB/sec of goodput
in a LAN scenario (GbE switch in your computer room). The capabilities
of the USB3 connector DO NOT cause the networking to "speed up". That
is rubbish. The adapter does GbE or 1000Mbit/sec full duplex. The USB3 connector is also full duplex (has a transmit pair and a receive pair).
Mine is this brand, but it has white plastic (to impress an Apple
user no doubt). My local store no longer seems to carry one, which is a shame.

https://www.newegg.ca/trendnet-tu3-etg-usb-to-ethernet/p/N82E16833156468

If you plug the ASIX USB3 88179 into

USB2 Goodput about 30MB/sec or so
USB3 Goodput about 112MB/sec (network limited)

I'm not aware of any attempt by ASIX (yet) to make a faster adapter.
A faster adapter would need more electrical power.

ASIX also makes a USB2 version. Do not buy this. It's a ripoff.
The one with the blue connector, should be USB3 rate, but check
the details to make sure it's not a "shenanigans offering". If you
attempt to find a "low-price" one, it might not be the GbE one.
It might be the 10/100BT one.

I suspect you can reinstall and reinstall the OS all you want, and
it won't help. For me, it was sufficient to switch from W11 to the
seldom used W10, and see the same symptoms, to suggest to me that
reinstall wasn't necessarily going to help. And seeing the Linux
running over the RealTek, flawlessly, well, what can I say exactly ?

The Intel NIC seems to behave nicely. But that won't help a
guy like you with a laptop. Whereas an ASIX USB3 to GbE, that
so far has worked just great, any time a "lesser" NIC cuts out.
I can plug that into my USB2 laptop, and it will still deliver
the 30MB/sec rate, sufficient for all sorts of work.

Just for the record, you can do networking over Bluetooth now,
but it isn't necessarily all that easy. It works at 75KB/sec or so
(dog slow) :-) That's why normally you do not do that. Imagine
Windows Update starts, at 75KB/sec. You could be there all week.
One of the issues with Bluetooth file sharing, is just about
all the indicators show the wrong speed while it is running.
Trust me, it does not go fast.

Paul

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On 7/9/2024 6:49 PM, micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 09 Jul 2024 17:41:56 -0400, nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:

I've been having problems connecting to the internet with my Acer Aspire
E5-573 laptop which is almost 10 years old, but normally works fine.

Running win 10 Home fully updated.

Both the ethernet and the wifi, or at least ethernet, worked 90 minutes
ago but then stop working.

Well, my bad, sort of. And thanks to anyone who has already answered.

I did restart the router before I posted, but I didnt' restart windows.
I guess that's because it was working 60 minutes earlier. (Is that a
good excuse?)

The only change I made had been 6 hours earlier. Could it be related? I
had for years gotten a message, FWIW,
PXE-E53, no boot filename received, exiting pxe-rom.
which meant that it tried to boot from a network but coudn't find a
filename to use.
I had network boooting last in the boot order, but I somehow had
missed another page of the BIOS where Network Boot was enabled. I
disabled it today, it started fine, no longer gave any startup messages,
and wifi or ethernet or both worked fine for hours. Then they stopped. Coincidence? Related?

<cut>

Some of the UEFI BIOS come configured from the factory that way.
Boot from DVD, boot from HDD ... boot from PXE (network boot).

The BIOS may have a tick box to disable the NIC completely,
but you'd notice. There can be tick boxes below that for
sub-functions. You can enable the NIC and disable PXE-boot.

PXE can be a BIOS-level function, enabled by a PXE module in the BIOS.
The BIOS is modular, and you can add support via hardware modules, when building the BIOS image to go into the EEPROM. For example, my
new Intel NIC loads its own PXE thingy (BIOS chip on card).

Once the OS drivers take over, for the most part, the BIOS is not
in the picture. The BIOS does run while the OS is running, but
it is supposed to work on things like the VCore regulator, or
work on thermal issues. And the length of an SMI handler has
to be short (like, 100usec), so the BIOS routine does not "upset"
the real time response of the OS.

It is my personal belief, that the UEFI BIOS is a large attack
surface. If something gets into it ? We'll never figure it out.

Even though I do not use Secure Boot, Microsoft has been
working on its key revocation project for some time. And
I found some TPM WMI entries (failure reports) of an attempt
by Windows Patch Tuesday, to mess with the signing keys.
I'm not pointing this out, to help you with your current
problem, but this is just a warning that "people can be doing
stuff to your machine while you sleep" :-)

In July (July Patch Tuesday), the TPM WMI thing is "mandatory",
so Microsoft will push the last button on their console, to finish
the key revocation project. What was happening this month, was
being on the "warning track" for IT people, to prepare and make
sure all their equipment was ready for this.

As I'm sure, everyone here had their W10 '4441 personally repaired
by Microsoft, after it arrived broken. Right ? Oh, oh yeah.

Paul

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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:25:27 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On 7/9/2024 6:49 PM, micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 09 Jul 2024 17:41:56 -0400,
nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:

I've been having problems connecting to the internet with my Acer Aspire >>> E5-573 laptop which is almost 10 years old, but normally works fine.

Running win 10 Home fully updated.

Both the ethernet and the wifi, or at least ethernet, worked 90 minutes
ago but then stop working.

Well, my bad, sort of. And thanks to anyone who has already answered.

I did restart the router before I posted, but I didnt' restart windows.
I guess that's because it was working 60 minutes earlier. (Is that a
good excuse?)

The only change I made had been 6 hours earlier. Could it be related? I
had for years gotten a message, FWIW,
PXE-E53, no boot filename received, exiting pxe-rom.
which meant that it tried to boot from a network but coudn't find a
filename to use.
I had network boooting last in the boot order, but I somehow had
missed another page of the BIOS where Network Boot was enabled. I
disabled it today, it started fine, no longer gave any startup messages,
and wifi or ethernet or both worked fine for hours. Then they stopped.
Coincidence? Related?

<cut>

Some of the UEFI BIOS come configured from the factory that way.
Boot from DVD, boot from HDD ... boot from PXE (network boot).

That might be. His technician might have waited the extra 60+ seconds
every time he turned it on, like I did.

The BIOS may have a tick box to disable the NIC completely,
but you'd notice.

I saw one line. It's really nice now without it. It goes straight to
Widows logon, wihtout displaying patent number and 2 or 3 other lines
plus the spinning |/-\| and so on for a minute or two. The first time
it did that, I thought it might never even. Hmmm. I think the first
time it did that was not the first time I turned it on. Maybe I'm the
one who turned on Network Booting.





There can be tick boxes below that for

sub-functions. You can enable the NIC and disable PXE-boot.

PXE can be a BIOS-level function, enabled by a PXE module in the BIOS.
The BIOS is modular, and you can add support via hardware modules, when >building the BIOS image to go into the EEPROM. For example, my
new Intel NIC loads its own PXE thingy (BIOS chip on card).

Once the OS drivers take over, for the most part, the BIOS is not
in the picture. The BIOS does run while the OS is running, but
it is supposed to work on things like the VCore regulator, or
work on thermal issues. And the length of an SMI handler has
to be short (like, 100usec), so the BIOS routine does not "upset"
the real time response of the OS.

It is my personal belief, that the UEFI BIOS is a large attack
surface. If something gets into it ? We'll never figure it out.

Even though I do not use Secure Boot, Microsoft has been
working on its key revocation project for some time. And
I found some TPM WMI entries (failure reports) of an attempt
by Windows Patch Tuesday, to mess with the signing keys.
I'm not pointing this out, to help you with your current
problem, but this is just a warning that "people can be doing
stuff to your machine while you sleep" :-)

In July (July Patch Tuesday), the TPM WMI thing is "mandatory",
so Microsoft will push the last button on their console, to finish
the key revocation project. What was happening this month, was
being on the "warning track" for IT people, to prepare and make
sure all their equipment was ready for this.

As I'm sure, everyone here had their W10 '4441 personally repaired
by Microsoft, after it arrived broken. Right ? Oh, oh yeah.

Paul

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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:05:12 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On 7/9/2024 5:41 PM, nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:

I've been having problems connecting to the internet with my Acer Aspire
E5-573 laptop which is almost 10 years old, but normally works fine.

Running win 10 Home fully updated.

Both the ethernet and the wifi, or at least ethernet, worked 90 minutes
ago but then stop working.

Meanwhile the desktop computer is connected by ethernet cable to the
same router, it and the laptop are running at the same time, and the
dektop has no problems!!!

A) Is there any chance that having a dead laptop battery (0% Available)
contributes to the problem?? I've bought a new one but have not put it
in yet.

For 2 or 3 years, I've had a problem that if I have ethernet connected,
after a day or two, it stops working and I have to unplug it, and then
wifi will take over. Then after a day or two, it will stop working and I
can just plug in the ethernet and it starts working again. Even though
I've done nothing else.

When I was in Guatemala for 3 weeks in January, I used the phone as a
hotspot and it always worked, and when I got back, the problem in the
previous paragraph had disappeared, for a couple weeks or more, aand
later came back but with nowhere near the frequency.

But two days ago, wifi or iirc both would not work.

Clicking on the globe icon in the systray gave the message: Unidentified
network. No internet.

The troubleshooter wanted to reset my wifi settings, and said it would
undo any add-ons or changes I'd made. I don't believe I've ever made
any but I let it do it, it deleted the passwords for both wifi channels,
and after I reenteed the password (same one in each) both worked. Then
I had 5 minutes before it did it's promised rebooot. I wanted to stop
it but didn't know how. But wifi continued to work fine after
rebooting.

Now only two days later, neither system works.

For ethernet, the troubleshooter says
Investigate router or broadband modem issues Failed
Reset the "Ethernet" adapter Completed.

But I still have "Unidentified network. No internet", with the cable
plugged in,
and without the cable. "Not connected, no connections are available".

How to fix this??
Is it just going to get more frequent?
Should I buy a new laptop?
If so, I still need to fix it until I buy one.

Hi, Micky.

My RealTek NIC was cutting out after about 30 seconds or so.
As far as I can remember, under both Win10 and Win11. The
ASIX USB3 to GbE always seemed to work when I plugged it in
(that's my emergency NIC, and it's seen way more emergencies
than I ever expected it would). What is interesting, is W10 and
W11 had the RealTek NIC cut out, while testing on Linux showed
no problem with the RealTek at all. Hmmm.

At least I'm not alone. I'm still goign to shop for a new laptop but
now I won't want to have to do my shopping with a broken laptop.

I will read the rest of your two long posts after I have dinner. ;-)

I eventually settled on an Intel PCIe form factor replacement card, as
a replacement for the soldered-to-motherboard RealTek.

The RealTek driver did not seem to have been changed. The driver likely
was installed well before that happened. (I looked at dates as best I could.)

Initially I thought that maybe it was a DNS issue, but that
was not it. It just stops and drops dead, 30 seconds after
the desktop comes up. Does not matter if it was sending a DNS
query, or a packet for a news site. Almost like a delayed-start
service was knocking it out.

*******

This is an example of an ASIX-based adapter (for emergency internetz).

https://www.amazon.ca/UGREEN-Ethernet-1000Mbps-Compatible-Nintendo/dp/B00MYTSN18

"Speed Up to 5Gbps: This USB rj45 network adapter with full 10 100 1000Mbps
gigabit ethernet performance over USB 3.0's 5Gbps bus, faster and more
reliable than most wireless connections." <=== (an attempt at exaggeration)

The USB3 has sufficient bandwidth to handle the 112MB/sec of goodput
in a LAN scenario (GbE switch in your computer room). The capabilities
of the USB3 connector DO NOT cause the networking to "speed up". That
is rubbish. The adapter does GbE or 1000Mbit/sec full duplex. The USB3 >connector is also full duplex (has a transmit pair and a receive pair).
Mine is this brand, but it has white plastic (to impress an Apple
user no doubt). My local store no longer seems to carry one, which is a shame.

https://www.newegg.ca/trendnet-tu3-etg-usb-to-ethernet/p/N82E16833156468

If you plug the ASIX USB3 88179 into

USB2 Goodput about 30MB/sec or so
USB3 Goodput about 112MB/sec (network limited)

I'm not aware of any attempt by ASIX (yet) to make a faster adapter.
A faster adapter would need more electrical power.

ASIX also makes a USB2 version. Do not buy this. It's a ripoff.
The one with the blue connector, should be USB3 rate, but check
the details to make sure it's not a "shenanigans offering". If you
attempt to find a "low-price" one, it might not be the GbE one.
It might be the 10/100BT one.

I suspect you can reinstall and reinstall the OS all you want, and
it won't help. For me, it was sufficient to switch from W11 to the
seldom used W10, and see the same symptoms, to suggest to me that
reinstall wasn't necessarily going to help. And seeing the Linux
running over the RealTek, flawlessly, well, what can I say exactly ?

The Intel NIC seems to behave nicely. But that won't help a
guy like you with a laptop. Whereas an ASIX USB3 to GbE, that
so far has worked just great, any time a "lesser" NIC cuts out.
I can plug that into my USB2 laptop, and it will still deliver
the 30MB/sec rate, sufficient for all sorts of work.

Just for the record, you can do networking over Bluetooth now,
but it isn't necessarily all that easy. It works at 75KB/sec or so
(dog slow) :-) That's why normally you do not do that. Imagine
Windows Update starts, at 75KB/sec. You could be there all week.
One of the issues with Bluetooth file sharing, is just about
all the indicators show the wrong speed while it is running.
Trust me, it does not go fast.

Paul

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On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 17:41:56 -0400, nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:

<snip>

For 2 or 3 years, I've had a problem that if I have ethernet connected,
after a day or two, it stops working and I have to unplug it, and then
wifi will take over. Then after a day or two, it will stop working and I
can just plug in the ethernet and it starts working again. Even though
I've done nothing else.

I think you said this is now resolved, but for future reference it would be good
to make yourself aware of the networking configuration when things are working, so that you have something to compare to when things stop working. It's not enough to simply report that things have stopped working, you know?

For example, how are IP addresses assigned? DHCP? DHCP w/reservation? Static? What is the subnet and mask when things are working? What's the IP address of your default gateway? When things "stop working", does the LAN continue to work?
Even if you don't have another PC on the LAN, remember that the LAN-side of your
router is a device on the LAN, so you can use it to differentiate between a LAN connectivity issue, (which will also affect WAN connectivity), versus a WAN connectivity issue which typically leaves the LAN in a working condition.

And so on...

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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:
...
Hi, Micky.
...

nononomisc07@fmguy.com is a nymshifted micky?

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VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote in news:1dqgjz21122l8.dlg@v.nguard.lh:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:
...
Hi, Micky.
...

nononomisc07@fmguy.com is a nymshifted micky?

My thoughts, too.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:15:23 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:
...
Hi, Micky.
...

nononomisc07@fmguy.com is a nymshifted micky?

Oh for gosh sakes.

Did you not notice the whole point of the post, that I could not post
from my laptop. So I had to post from the other one where the
from-value had not been entered, so I entered the same value but didn't capitalize all the same letters because the second keyboard only allows
hunt and peck. Gee whiz.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 09 Jul 2024 21:58:37 -0500, Char
Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 17:41:56 -0400, nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:

<snip>

For 2 or 3 years, I've had a problem that if I have ethernet connected, >>after a day or two, it stops working and I have to unplug it, and then
wifi will take over. Then after a day or two, it will stop working and I >>can just plug in the ethernet and it starts working again. Even though >>I've done nothing else.

I think you said this is now resolved, but for future reference it would be good
to make yourself aware of the networking configuration when things are working,

Yes I should. It even said something about a missing IP address, but I
didn't know what the IP address should be, or where I could put it in.

so that you have something to compare to when things stop working. It's not >enough to simply report that things have stopped working, you know?

For example, how are IP addresses assigned? DHCP? DHCP w/reservation? Static?

I knew that one a few years ago, but like letters written in the sand on
the beach, it's been washed away by the waves.

What is the subnet and mask when things are working? What's the IP address of >your default gateway? When things "stop working", does the LAN continue to work?
Even if you don't have another PC on the LAN, remember that the LAN-side of your
router is a device on the LAN, so you can use it to differentiate between a LAN
connectivity issue, (which will also affect WAN connectivity), versus a WAN >connectivity issue which typically leaves the LAN in a working condition.

And so on...

Alas, I'm worn out. I hope I'm not turning into one of those guys who
has no idea how it all works.

I'll try.

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On 7/10/2024 1:50 AM, micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 09 Jul 2024 21:58:37 -0500, Char
Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 17:41:56 -0400, nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:

<snip>

For 2 or 3 years, I've had a problem that if I have ethernet connected,
after a day or two, it stops working and I have to unplug it, and then
wifi will take over. Then after a day or two, it will stop working and I >>> can just plug in the ethernet and it starts working again. Even though
I've done nothing else.

I think you said this is now resolved, but for future reference it would be good
to make yourself aware of the networking configuration when things are working,

Yes I should. It even said something about a missing IP address, but I
didn't know what the IP address should be, or where I could put it in.

so that you have something to compare to when things stop working. It's not >> enough to simply report that things have stopped working, you know?

For example, how are IP addresses assigned? DHCP? DHCP w/reservation? Static?

I knew that one a few years ago, but like letters written in the sand on
the beach, it's been washed away by the waves.

What is the subnet and mask when things are working? What's the IP address of
your default gateway? When things "stop working", does the LAN continue to work?
Even if you don't have another PC on the LAN, remember that the LAN-side of your
router is a device on the LAN, so you can use it to differentiate between a LAN
connectivity issue, (which will also affect WAN connectivity), versus a WAN >> connectivity issue which typically leaves the LAN in a working condition.

And so on...

Alas, I'm worn out. I hope I'm not turning into one of those guys who
has no idea how it all works.

I'll try.

Open a Command Prompt or a Powershell, and try

ipconfig

That shows some details, such as whether you got a 169.x "APIPA" address
which is what happens when networking is really broken.

In this picture, the default DHCP fetching of IP info is what it is
configured for. But using the radio button, you can select manual
IP addresses of your own choosing. The Advanced button may hide additional delights. Just remember, that if you don't like the "Settings" way of
getting there, you can use Start : Run : control.exe to get to the
Control Panels.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/yY6GGdGK/win11-same-ole-networking-stuff.gif

Paul

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"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:
...
Hi, Micky.
...

nononomisc07@fmguy.com is a nymshifted micky?

Different computers, same email addy, same newsclient, same time zone,
same service.
- i.e. afaics not an issue worthy of questioning

I have a filter to ignore-flag posts by micky, which is a regex filter
on the From header of:

(\W|_)*micky(\W|_)*<NONONOmisc07@fmguy\.com>

Apparently micky decided to start using his address token as his comment
(name) token, too. So, I'll have to either remove the check for "micky"
in the comment token in From, or test on:

(\W|_)*(micky|NONONOmisc07@fmguy\.com)(\W|_)*<NONONOmisc07@fmguy\.com>

I could just regex test on the address token in From, like:

<NONONOmisc07@fmguy\.com>

but I tend to use both tokens in From, and incorporate other headers if applicable, to narrow the regex match to reduce false positives. I'll
probably use the regex that tests on both tokens in From to monitor how
micky may further nymshift.

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micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote in news:5p7s8j9acu8p4b9rl00bja3dclbb1cjgvh@4ax.com:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:15:23 -0500,
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:
...
Hi, Micky.
...

nononomisc07@fmguy.com is a nymshifted micky?

Oh for gosh sakes.

Did you not notice the whole point of the post, that I could not post
from my laptop. So I had to post from the other one where the
from-value had not been entered, so I entered the same value but
didn't capitalize all the same letters because the second keyboard
only allows hunt and peck. Gee whiz.

My sincere apologies.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 10 Jul 2024 22:33:57 -0000 (UTC),
Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote in >news:5p7s8j9acu8p4b9rl00bja3dclbb1cjgvh@4ax.com:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:15:23 -0500,
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

nononomisc07@fmguy.com wrote:
...
Hi, Micky.
...

nononomisc07@fmguy.com is a nymshifted micky?

Oh for gosh sakes.

Did you not notice the whole point of the post, that I could not post
from my laptop. So I had to post from the other one where the
from-value had not been entered, so I entered the same value but
didn't capitalize all the same letters because the second keyboard
only allows hunt and peck. Gee whiz.

My sincere apologies.

Thank you.

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