• split screen oddity

    From sticks@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 5 20:59:08 2024
    I have always found the split screen feature helpful and use it daily.
    Today, I noticed that the program Kindle for Windows seems to have a
    little difficulty only using half the monitor. This problem gets
    apparent if you have a book open and then choose to see your highlights
    too. The Kindle windows gets bigger than half the screen and overlaps
    the other application. You can click on the 2nd app and it is fully
    visible as it should be on it's half of the monitor, with part of the
    Kindle now covered. It's not how I've seen any other two programs
    operate using the split screen. I wonder why this is?


    --
    Stand With Israel!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jeff Barnett@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 5 22:43:26 2024
    T24gNy81LzIwMjQgNzo1OSBQTSwgc3RpY2tzIHdyb3RlOg0KPiBJIGhhdmUgYWx3YXlzIGZv dW5kIHRoZSBzcGxpdCBzY3JlZW4gZmVhdHVyZSBoZWxwZnVsIGFuZCB1c2UgaXQgZGFpbHku IA0KPiBUb2RheSwgSSBub3RpY2VkIHRoYXQgdGhlIHByb2dyYW0gS2luZGxlIGZvciBXaW5k b3dzIHNlZW1zIHRvIGhhdmUgYSANCj4gbGl0dGxlIGRpZmZpY3VsdHkgb25seSB1c2luZyBo YWxmIHRoZSBtb25pdG9yLsKgIFRoaXMgcHJvYmxlbSBnZXRzIA0KPiBhcHBhcmVudCBpZiB5 b3UgaGF2ZSBhIGJvb2sgb3BlbiBhbmQgdGhlbiBjaG9vc2UgdG8gc2VlIHlvdXIgaGlnaGxp Z2h0cyANCj4gdG9vLsKgIFRoZSBLaW5kbGUgd2luZG93cyBnZXRzIGJpZ2dlciB0aGFuIGhh bGYgdGhlIHNjcmVlbiBhbmQgb3ZlcmxhcHMgDQo+IHRoZSBvdGhlciBhcHBsaWNhdGlvbi7C oCBZb3UgY2FuIGNsaWNrIG9uIHRoZSAybmQgYXBwIGFuZCBpdCBpcyBmdWxseSANCj4gdmlz aWJsZSBhcyBpdCBzaG91bGQgYmUgb24gaXQncyBoYWxmIG9mIHRoZSBtb25pdG9yLCB3aXRo IHBhcnQgb2YgdGhlIA0KPiBLaW5kbGUgbm93IGNvdmVyZWQuwqAgSXQncyBub3QgaG93IEkn dmUgc2VlbiBhbnkgb3RoZXIgdHdvIHByb2dyYW1zIA0KPiBvcGVyYXRlIHVzaW5nIHRoZSBz cGxpdCBzY3JlZW4uwqAgSSB3b25kZXIgd2h5IHRoaXMgaXM/DQoNCklzIGl0IHBvc3NpYmxl IHRoYXQgeW91ciBib29rIHJlYWRpbmcgYXBwbGljYXRpb24gZGVtYW5kcyBhdCBsZWFzdCBh IA0KY2VydGFpbiBzaXplIHNjcmVlbiB0byB3b3JrPyBJZiBpdCBkb2VzIGFuZCB0aGF0IHNp emUgaXMgYmlnZ2VyIHRoYW4gDQp5b3VyIGhhbGYgd2luZG93IC4uLg0KLS0gDQpKZWZmIEJh cm5ldHQNCg0K

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Paul@21:1/5 to sticks on Sat Jul 6 07:04:26 2024
    On 7/5/2024 9:59 PM, sticks wrote:
    I have always found the split screen feature helpful and use it daily. Today, I noticed that the program Kindle for Windows seems to have a little difficulty only using half the monitor.  This problem gets apparent if you have a book open and then
    choose to see your highlights too.  The Kindle windows gets bigger than half the screen and overlaps the other application.  You can click on the 2nd app and it is fully visible as it should be on it's half of the monitor, with part of the Kindle now
    covered.  It's not how I've seen any other two programs operate using the split screen.  I wonder why this is?



    A Metro.App has "snap" capabilities or such.
    Some sort of deal where it takes half a screen.

    A Win32 program (legacy EXE) may not share this property.
    The graphics rendering is done a different way.

    Both types can be composited in the display manager (Z-azis viewing priority, sometimes).

    The Metro.App is likely using webview or something. There is
    some interface layer for the window it draws, which isn't
    quite the same as before. This could also account for a certain
    generation of Metro.App not being able to run on Windows 7.

    A UWP might run on Win7 and Win10, but it specifically has
    to be written for Win7 and there is some sort of indicator
    in a manifest that it supports this. Just because something is
    a UWP, doesn't mean it has to run on Win7. It has to be a "UWP for Win7"
    to run on Win7.

    You can see how using tools, it's difficult to tell once a thing is
    running, what it is.

    And when something hides inside a folder for which you have
    no access (WindowsApp), then you are doubly flummoxed.

    "Programs" have a multitude of places they can hide. You'd be
    surprised where they end up. "Nothing up my sleeve": Bullwinkle.

    If you're leet, you'll have no problem figuring it out,
    at least that is what the MSFT Devs claim. "We don't need stenkin labels".

    This is why the Memory Compressor (a system function), does not
    appear in Task Manager, but *does* appear in Process Explorer.
    Process Explorer gives you a second opportunity to collect information,
    as in this picture:

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/httG6Q1s/Guessing-at-program-type.gif

    I did not specifically put Memory Compressor in that picture,
    but it has the fewest labels of all, and this is why the
    Task Manager may have decided not to list it.

    Even if you told me it was "kindle.exe", that does not answer
    the question. If you told me "kindle.exe 3,605,687 bytes" then
    I would guess it is legacy Win32. If the file was
    "kindle.exe 0 bytes" or "Kindle.exe 715 bytes" then we
    would have our suspicions it was not win32 :-) There are
    at least two conventions for manifested EXE Metro.App files.
    They weren't happy with the older method, and you will find
    variants, but the properties have not changed (the win32 loader
    still cannot launch a manifested Metro.App). A shortcut to a
    Metro.App refuses to carry command line parameters -- you cannot
    edit the shortcut.

    Is there a tutorial page on taxonomy at Microsoft ?
    What do you think ?

    Paul

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)