• Re: Stopping google sign in pop up

    From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Tue Jun 18 22:56:47 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 17 Jun 2024 21:29:21 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 17 Jun 2024 18:07:47 +0100, Andy
    Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    sticks wrote:

    On 6/16/2024 3:12 PM, Andy Burns wrote:



    so if you want to block *all* use of accounts.google.com, just put this
    in your etc/hosts

    127.0.0.1 accounts.google.com

    That's what I did. I wasn't hurrying to post back because it's hard to
    tell if this really cured the boxes poppping up that we were trying to
    get rid of. it's only been a little over a day, but I think I have not
    seen that box.

    I did do testing and as one would axpect, attempting to retrieve >accounts.google.com met with failure.

    OTOH, entering myaccount.google.com brought up that page....

    but then you won't be able to get to account features such as payments
    or changing your password.

    ...And indeed, I was logged in already, using the password saved in FF.
    I didn't want to log out yesterday, in casae it was hard to get back in,
    but before I replied to your post just now, I did log out, then I
    reentered myaccount.google.com and poof, I was logged in again.

    So I think this is all one has to do, plus one has to remember how to
    get to one's profile for the account features you mention. Because if
    you google google login for example, it will point you to >accounts.google.com, which no longer works. I'm not good at
    remembering things (that's why I got a computer) but one only has to
    change accounts to myaccount and then it works.

    So thanks for the help. It worked. When I speculated that the box had
    no url, clearly I was wrong.

    If you do have a google account, and all you want to stop is the popup >>asking you to sign-in with google, they you want ABP, or uBO enabled, >>presume you know how to get to the "My filters" tab and add the line I >>originally showed?

    It's been one more day (more than 2 total) and I have not seen the
    Google login box in the laptop, runing win10 HOME, but on the desktop
    running win10 PRO, which I had not modified, I did get a google login
    box when I went to reddit.com.

    I'd like to get rid of it there too, but when I went to the HOSTS file
    and opened it, a box said that the file is Read Only, and I'd have to
    turn off read only, and even after I did that, I'd have to save the file
    under a different name or first close the application (Windows) that has
    the file open. Aha, I had not yet done what I had to do in win`10
    Home, check Run as Administrator in the Advanced section of the EditPad
    Lite home page icon. Once I did that, it said nothing to me about it
    being Read Only. Using File Explorer, or whatever comes with win10, I
    see that it's NOT read only, even though it told me that a few minutes
    ago. What's going on?


    However reloading the reddit.com page and didn't bring up the gooogle
    login box. Could that be because it was the second time in a row I
    loaded that page, or is it gone for good.


    Another windows question, now that win10 has been added here:
    BTW, this is one of the reasons I dread getting a new computer. I can reinstall all my programs and copy over all what is found in data
    directories, but it won't included the HOSTS file, will it? I have to remember to do that separately. Is there a list that others have
    compiled of miscellaneous places I should look to find changes I made to windows that I will want to transfer to a new computer?

    Another thing is the setting I changed to delay the v. small
    mini-windows from popping up above the taskbar, corresponding to where
    the cursor is. I find them annoying and of no use, and I got rid of
    them by increasing the time it take for them to popup, but I don't
    remember where or how I did it.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Wed Jun 19 02:05:44 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:56:47 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 17 Jun 2024 21:29:21 -0400, micky ><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 17 Jun 2024 18:07:47 +0100, Andy >>Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    sticks wrote:

    On 6/16/2024 3:12 PM, Andy Burns wrote:



    so if you want to block *all* use of accounts.google.com, just put this >>>in your etc/hosts

    127.0.0.1 accounts.google.com

    That's what I did. I wasn't hurrying to post back because it's hard to >>tell if this really cured the boxes poppping up that we were trying to
    get rid of. it's only been a little over a day, but I think I have not >>seen that box.

    I did do testing and as one would axpect, attempting to retrieve >>accounts.google.com met with failure.

    OTOH, entering myaccount.google.com brought up that page....

    but then you won't be able to get to account features such as payments
    or changing your password.

    ...And indeed, I was logged in already, using the password saved in FF.
    I didn't want to log out yesterday, in casae it was hard to get back in, >>but before I replied to your post just now, I did log out, then I
    reentered myaccount.google.com and poof, I was logged in again.

    Possible big oops. Contradictory results. In the win10Pro, I tried to
    look in the android app store and got an error trying to find accounts.google.com but in win10Home, it works fine, even though I just
    checked the HOSTS file and accounts.google.com is still there, with
    127.0.0.1.

    What's going on?

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to micky on Wed Jun 19 01:58:14 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 6/18/2024 10:56 PM, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 17 Jun 2024 21:29:21 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 17 Jun 2024 18:07:47 +0100, Andy
    Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    sticks wrote:

    On 6/16/2024 3:12 PM, Andy Burns wrote:



    so if you want to block *all* use of accounts.google.com, just put this
    in your etc/hosts

    127.0.0.1 accounts.google.com

    That's what I did. I wasn't hurrying to post back because it's hard to
    tell if this really cured the boxes poppping up that we were trying to
    get rid of. it's only been a little over a day, but I think I have not
    seen that box.

    I did do testing and as one would axpect, attempting to retrieve
    accounts.google.com met with failure.

    OTOH, entering myaccount.google.com brought up that page....

    but then you won't be able to get to account features such as payments
    or changing your password.

    ...And indeed, I was logged in already, using the password saved in FF.
    I didn't want to log out yesterday, in casae it was hard to get back in,
    but before I replied to your post just now, I did log out, then I
    reentered myaccount.google.com and poof, I was logged in again.

    So I think this is all one has to do, plus one has to remember how to
    get to one's profile for the account features you mention. Because if
    you google google login for example, it will point you to
    accounts.google.com, which no longer works. I'm not good at
    remembering things (that's why I got a computer) but one only has to
    change accounts to myaccount and then it works.

    So thanks for the help. It worked. When I speculated that the box had
    no url, clearly I was wrong.

    If you do have a google account, and all you want to stop is the popup
    asking you to sign-in with google, they you want ABP, or uBO enabled,
    presume you know how to get to the "My filters" tab and add the line I
    originally showed?

    It's been one more day (more than 2 total) and I have not seen the
    Google login box in the laptop, runing win10 HOME, but on the desktop
    running win10 PRO, which I had not modified, I did get a google login
    box when I went to reddit.com.

    I'd like to get rid of it there too, but when I went to the HOSTS file
    and opened it, a box said that the file is Read Only, and I'd have to
    turn off read only, and even after I did that, I'd have to save the file under a different name or first close the application (Windows) that has
    the file open. Aha, I had not yet done what I had to do in win`10
    Home, check Run as Administrator in the Advanced section of the EditPad
    Lite home page icon. Once I did that, it said nothing to me about it
    being Read Only. Using File Explorer, or whatever comes with win10, I
    see that it's NOT read only, even though it told me that a few minutes
    ago. What's going on?


    However reloading the reddit.com page and didn't bring up the gooogle
    login box. Could that be because it was the second time in a row I
    loaded that page, or is it gone for good.


    Another windows question, now that win10 has been added here:
    BTW, this is one of the reasons I dread getting a new computer. I can reinstall all my programs and copy over all what is found in data directories, but it won't included the HOSTS file, will it? I have to remember to do that separately. Is there a list that others have
    compiled of miscellaneous places I should look to find changes I made to windows that I will want to transfer to a new computer?

    Another thing is the setting I changed to delay the v. small
    mini-windows from popping up above the taskbar, corresponding to where
    the cursor is. I find them annoying and of no use, and I got rid of
    them by increasing the time it take for them to popup, but I don't
    remember where or how I did it.

    C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts

    My machine reports that I don't have permission to save over top of "hosts". The file really should be upper-case, for fun, like before. It was HOSTS
    on WinXP.

    The Administrator and SYSTEM have Full Control, the Users have
    Read and Read&Execute set. This could result in a message related
    to those two ticky boxes. You're seeing a side effect of
    "only having Read and Read&Execute" as your capability as a User.

    This information is in the Security Tab. You should really
    look in there sometime -- yes, it's gobbledygook but you can
    correlate an error message, to what you find in there.

    This is not the same thing as the box labeled Read-Only, which is
    a modifier for folders. Generally speaking, in the Fisher Price
    sense, don't stare at the Read-only box, when you could be fiddling
    with the security tab instead.

    The Security tab is the thing you want to look at, when debugging
    silly stuff like this.

    OK, how can we "succeed" ? Now that we've seen our limited User permissions.

    1) Open Administrator terminal.
    2) CD to the folder containing the file.

    cd /d C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc

    or the alternative is

    C:
    cd \
    cd Windows\System32\drivers\etc

    3) notepad hosts
    4) Edit and save
    5) Close administrator terminal when finished.

    By attacking using the Full Control the Administrator has,
    we get the job done.

    *******

    Yes, the balloon popups have a timer, and it is a single
    registry setting. That's a "Task Bar Thumbnail" at a guess.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/21005-change-delay-time-show-taskbar-thumbnails-windows-10-a.html

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced
    ExtendedUIHoverTime DWORD32 milliseconds

    The default value of 100 milliseconds, is 100 * 0.001 = 0.1 seconds

    *******

    When you clean a browser, the Google login box comes back.

    It is either remembered as a cookie, or it could be webappsstore.sqlite.
    There are also the "+++" entries. Using Agent Ransack, you're
    allowed to look for "+++" three characters, as long as you
    have not selected Regular Expression mode for the search.

    Using Private Mode browsing, could bring the Google Login box back.

    Once Google sets a cookie, it should be moderately happy.

    *******

    To transfer materials in an intelligent fashion from one
    OS to another, costs money. Whereas your hobbyist methods
    cost nothing :-)

    On Linux, your /home/micky folder contains a lot of goodies,
    but any time a "new scheme" comes along, it might require
    more trash be added to the folder. I don't know if they have
    migration logic. You could move /home/micky to another disk
    drive for example, and hook it up to the OS. The division
    is a bit cleaner than Windows, except when something
    needs to be migrated to a newer API.

    Windows has Migration Logic when you insert the Win10 DVD
    and run Setup.exe off it, while sitting at your Windows 7 computer.
    That "installs over top" and it tries to keep your applications
    and your settings. Naturally, settings related to the OS, they
    can play table-tennis with those if they want. For example, if
    your Task Bar is two rows high, and the new OS only supports
    a one-row Task Bar, then boo-hoo-for-you :-)

    But if you have Windows 7 on Machine #1 and want to keep the
    config and have Windows 10 with it, on Machine #2, that
    would be tricky. Third party software will attempt to migrate
    the Win7 personalization, to another machine for you, but
    * you pay for each transfer session $50 * . You don't own the
    software, you're renting it. It's a dreadful pricing scheme.

    I suppose you know you can move W10 from one machine to another.
    That's a degree of freedom. The disadvantage, is it does not
    work like Windows 2000. In Win2K, you could define "New Profile",
    then shut down the computer. When the disk drive booted on
    the new machine, the hardware enumeration would be stored in
    the new profile. This meant, moving could be kept "clean",
    and perhaps your old video card would be forgotten, and
    you'd install a new driver or such.

    With moving W10 from one machine to another, you end up with
    an AMD video driver and an NVidia video driver. The machine
    still works, but there's a certain amount of "clutter" in it.
    A Repair install could clean it out. See ? Fun. And the
    fun works, as long as you had the presence of mind to take
    advantage of the free upgrade, while you could do it, so
    all the capable machines were already activated for W10.
    Then you could move a cherished setup W10 to another machine.
    Doing a Repair install which "keeps Programs and User Settings",
    cleans up the cruft.

    Paul

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Wed Jun 19 02:21:27 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 19 Jun 2024 02:05:44 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:56:47 -0400, micky ><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 17 Jun 2024 21:29:21 -0400, micky >><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 17 Jun 2024 18:07:47 +0100, Andy >>>Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    sticks wrote:

    On 6/16/2024 3:12 PM, Andy Burns wrote:



    so if you want to block *all* use of accounts.google.com, just put this >>>>in your etc/hosts

    127.0.0.1 accounts.google.com

    That's what I did. I wasn't hurrying to post back because it's hard to >>>tell if this really cured the boxes poppping up that we were trying to >>>get rid of. it's only been a little over a day, but I think I have not >>>seen that box.

    I did do testing and as one would axpect, attempting to retrieve >>>accounts.google.com met with failure.

    OTOH, entering myaccount.google.com brought up that page....

    but then you won't be able to get to account features such as payments >>>>or changing your password.

    ...And indeed, I was logged in already, using the password saved in FF.
    I didn't want to log out yesterday, in casae it was hard to get back in, >>>but before I replied to your post just now, I did log out, then I >>>reentered myaccount.google.com and poof, I was logged in again.

    Possible big oops. Contradictory results. In the win10Pro, I tried to
    look in the android app store and got an error trying to find >accounts.google.com but in win10Home, it works fine, even though I just >checked the HOSTS file and accounts.google.com is still there, with >127.0.0.1.

    What's going on?

    Even in win10 Home, though it let me search for an app, showed me a
    list, let me pick one and read about it, let me click in Install, and
    gave me a choice of my 2 phones, at that point it couldn't retrieve accounts.google.com, so it didn't work.

    For those who didn't read the Android ng, Andy had a line to put into a
    couple of the ad blockers which iirc would work, but I dont' use an ad
    blocker except what comes with Firefox, so I haven't tried it.

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to micky on Wed Jun 19 09:02:02 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 6/19/2024 2:05 AM, micky wrote:

    Possible big oops. Contradictory results. In the win10Pro, I tried to
    look in the android app store and got an error trying to find accounts.google.com but in win10Home, it works fine, even though I just checked the HOSTS file and accounts.google.com is still there, with 127.0.0.1.

    What's going on?


    Personally I find Win10 unusable without keeping a "restriction
    cleaner" handy. There are programs. I think there's also a
    context menu utility that can zap any item with takeown and
    cacls.

    Long story short, lackey restrictions are widely applied, even
    for Admins with UAC turned down and LUA disabled. I can't
    even open the folder with my lockscreen pictures without
    cleaning off the restrictions.

    It's a confusing system, Rube Goldberg style. Basically you
    can't give yourself permissions. You don't have permission.
    But wait! If you take ownership then the file belongs to you,
    so you can then give yourself permission. It's classic Microsoft
    strategy: Security through obscurity. The Windows API functions
    for this are the most convoluted I've ever seen, and that's
    saying something, if you've ever looked at the Windows API.

    HOSTS is a bit of a hot potato because malware can edit it
    to trick you into visiting malware sites when you think you're
    visiting a legit site. Also, big corporations don't want people
    blocking their stuff. So HOTS gets locked down.

    Personally I use Acrylic, which has a wildcard
    HOSTS file and is not locked. It's a small DNS proxy. You set
    your DNS resolver to 127.0.0.1 and then every DNS query goes
    through Acrylic instead of the system. Acrylic HOSTS will let
    you do things like *.doubleclick.com. Windows HOSTS doesn't
    recognize wildcards. (It's roughly analogous to Andy of Mayberry
    lifting his phone and saying, "Sarah, would you get Barney for me?"
    The local operator, Sarah, then rings Barney's phone. By going
    through Sarah, Andy also gets a bit finer control of the operation.)

    With regular HOSTS people end up blocking ads.doubleclick.net, ads3.doubleclick.net, ads4, adsuk, adsfr and so on. With Acrylic
    it's just one line: *.doubleclick.net.

    There's also a side story with Reddit. They recently went public.
    Then they started a new login routine which allows their new
    buddy Google to spy on you while you're at Reddit. Reddit
    have cut deals with both Google and OpenAI to get paid for
    letting them spy.

    The new login won't work unless one allows script from
    google.com and gstatic.com. I find that I have to enable those
    in NoScript, but I can disable them again once I'm logged in. Though
    I'm not going to Reddit much anymore now. I suspect this is just the
    beginning of a transition to an obnoxious, ad-infested spyware site.
    It was fun while it lasted, but they were losing money. So...

    I've never seen popups from Google and don't see accounts.google.com
    being blocked in NoScript, but I do have that subdomain blocked
    in my Acrylic HOSTS file, so I guess that's why. I do see cdn.apple.com
    being blocked by NoScript at Reddit. This has become an increasing
    gimmick. Not only the "Log in with..." buttons and popups but also
    the increasing intrusion. I recently found that I can no longer watch
    a movie on Kanopy without allowing gstaatic the whole time. Kanopy
    is a movie service paid by my local library. Yet now they've got a
    side hustle letting Google spy on their customers. Most people
    would never see any difference. I only know because I use NoScript
    and suddenly lots of spies showed up trying to join the party at
    Kanopy.com. Through some testing I determined that only gstatic
    must be allowed. But if I disable it at any point the movie
    will stop streaming. Gstatic (Google's recaptcha server) is somehow
    acting as a middleman. That's not the case with any other streamer
    I'm using: Hoopla, PBS and Netflix.

    For what it's worth, here's all the Google crap I block routinely:

    127.0.0.1 *.googleusercontent.com
    127.0.0.1 *.googlesyndication.com
    127.0.0.1 *.googleadservices.com
    127.0.0.1 *.googlecommerce.com
    127.0.0.1 *.1e100.com
    127.0.0.1 *.1e100.net
    127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.com
    127.0.0.1 *.googletagservices.com
    127.0.0.1 *.googletagmanager.com
    127.0.0.1 *.google-analytics.com
    127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
    127.0.0.1 fonts.googleapis.com
    127.0.0.1 *.2mdn.net
    127.0.0.1 googleadapis.l.google.com
    #127.0.0.1 *.gstatic.com
    127.0.0.1 plusone.google.com
    127.0.0.1 cse.google.com
    127.0.0.1 www.google.com/cse
    127.0.0.1 www.youtube-nocookie.com
    127.0.0.1 *.appspot.com
    127.0.0.1 accounts.google.com
    127.0.0.1 www.google.com/recaptcha/
    127.0.0.1 accounts.google.com
    127.0.0.1 static.google.com

    With gstatic I enable it on a case by case basis through NoScript.
    If I block it altogether then I can't see recaptchas, can't
    check the I'm not a robot box, and thus can't access many
    webpages.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Big Al on Wed Jun 19 14:24:44 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Big Al wrote:

    what is 'cacls'?

    Change ACLs ... later version xcacls and current version icacls

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  • From Big Al@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Wed Jun 19 09:41:16 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 6/19/24 09:24 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
    Big Al wrote:

    what is 'cacls'?

    Change ACLs ... later version xcacls and current version icacls



    Thanks, Access Control List.
    --
    Linux Mint 21.3, Cinnamon 6.0.4, Kernel 5.15.0-112-generic
    Al

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  • From Big Al@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 19 09:16:53 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 6/19/24 09:02 AM, Newyana2 wrote:
    takeown and
    cacls.

    Hate to show my ignorance, I got 'takeown' but what is 'cacls'? All that comes to mind is calculates.
    --
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    Al

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to Big Al on Wed Jun 19 12:29:06 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 6/19/2024 9:41 AM, Big Al wrote:
    On 6/19/24 09:24 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
    Big Al wrote:

    what is 'cacls'?

    Change ACLs ... later version xcacls and current version icacls


    Thanks,  Access Control List.

    There are different ways to go about it, but I wrote it
    that way because there's a utlity out there somewhere
    to add the whole operation to a context menu. I figured
    that if people look up "takeown cacls" then they should be
    able to find the utility. Sorry for the confusion.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 19 17:31:59 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Newyana2 wrote:

    Big Al wrote:

    Access Control List.

       There are different ways to go about it, but I wrote it
    that way because there's a utlity out there somewhere
    to add the whole operation to a context menu. I figured
    that if people look up "takeown cacls" then they should be
    able to find the utility. Sorry for the confusion.

    SetACL is good from command line, also has an API and a GUI

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to ...winston on Wed Jun 19 12:26:18 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 6/19/2024 12:13 PM, ...winston wrote:
    Newyana2 wrote:
       Long story short, lackey restrictions are widely applied, even
    for Admins with UAC turned down and LUA disabled. I can't
    even open the folder with my lockscreen pictures without
    cleaning off the restrictions.


    The Lockscreen picture folder opens without restriction on this Win10
    device with the default UAC setting
     UAC was previously called/known as LUA.


    The personal folder is accessible, but not C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\SystemData. I have to clean off
    restrictions every time I open it. The reason I needed access in the first place was because Windows kept forgetting my image. So I replaced
    all selections in the SystemData subfolders with mine. That worked. :)

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  • From Char Jackson@21:1/5 to Paul on Wed Jun 19 12:52:24 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:58:14 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts

    My machine reports that I don't have permission to save over top of "hosts". >The file really should be upper-case, for fun, like before. It was HOSTS
    on WinXP.

    I just checked Windows 10, 8.1, 7, and XP, and the hosts file on each of them is
    "hosts", all lower case, no extension. I'm not sure I've ever seen it in upper case.

    No matter, I was just curious.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Wed Jun 19 18:09:37 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 19 Jun 2024 02:21:27 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 19 Jun 2024 02:05:44 -0400, micky ><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    8 other replies to this post, but NO replie to the post above. And that
    one is worse, not just a possible problem but a for sure problem.

    Even in the computer that let me look at playstore apps, I couldn't
    install one with the line in HOSTS that said
    127.0.0.1 accounts.google.com

    So I either have to keep turning it on and off by rediting HOSTS, or I
    have to allow the Google login box to show up, at least in one computer.
    OR I have to use the other method that Andy suggested:


    But only blocking the gsi/iframe psath with a filter

    ||accounts.google.com/gsi/iframe/

    Puting the line above in uBlocks or probably the same line in at least
    one other ad blocker?



    Possible big oops. Contradictory results. In the win10Pro, I tried to >>look in the android app store and got an error trying to find >>accounts.google.com but in win10Home, it works fine, even though I just >>checked the HOSTS file and accounts.google.com is still there, with >>127.0.0.1.

    What's going on?

    Even in win10 Home, though it let me search for an app, showed me a
    list, let me pick one and read about it, let me click in Install, and
    gave me a choice of my 2 phones, at that point it couldn't retrieve >accounts.google.com, so it didn't work.

    For those who didn't read the Android ng, Andy had a line to put into a >couple of the ad blockers which iirc would work, but I dont' use an ad >blocker except what comes with Firefox, so I haven't tried it.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Wed Jun 19 19:28:49 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Wed, 19 Jun 2024 02:21:27 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 19 Jun 2024 02:05:44 -0400, micky ><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:56:47 -0400, micky >><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 17 Jun 2024 21:29:21 -0400, micky >>><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 17 Jun 2024 18:07:47 +0100, Andy >>>>Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    sticks wrote:

    On 6/16/2024 3:12 PM, Andy Burns wrote:



    so if you want to block *all* use of accounts.google.com, just put this >>>>>in your etc/hosts

    127.0.0.1 accounts.google.com

    That's what I did. I wasn't hurrying to post back because it's hard to >>>>tell if this really cured the boxes poppping up that we were trying to >>>>get rid of. it's only been a little over a day, but I think I have not >>>>seen that box.

    I did do testing and as one would axpect, attempting to retrieve >>>>accounts.google.com met with failure.

    OTOH, entering myaccount.google.com brought up that page....

    but then you won't be able to get to account features such as payments >>>>>or changing your password.

    ...And indeed, I was logged in already, using the password saved in FF. >>>>I didn't want to log out yesterday, in casae it was hard to get back in, >>>>but before I replied to your post just now, I did log out, then I >>>>reentered myaccount.google.com and poof, I was logged in again.

    Possible big oops. Contradictory results. In the win10Pro, I tried to >>look in the android app store and got an error trying to find >>accounts.google.com but in win10Home, it works fine, even though I just >>checked the HOSTS file and accounts.google.com is still there, with >>127.0.0.1.

    What's going on?

    Even in win10 Home, though it let me search for an app, showed me a
    list, let me pick one and read about it, let me click in Install, and
    gave me a choice of my 2 phones, at that point it couldn't retrieve >accounts.google.com, so it didn't work.

    For those who didn't read the Android ng, Andy had a line to put into a >couple of the ad blockers which iirc would work, but I dont' use an ad >blocker except what comes with Firefox, so I haven't tried it.

    I think sinice I have two computers running most of the time, the one I
    use the most will continue to have the HOSTS line, and the other one, I
    will take out that line so that I can use it for phone apps etc.

    I hate the google login box. I hope this hatred doesn't pervert my
    entire personality and turn me into a nighttime rogue killer.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Jun 20 08:37:01 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    micky wrote:

    ||accounts.google.com/gsi/iframe/

    Puting the line above in uBlocks or probably the same line in at least
    one other ad blocker?
    I know that filter works in uBlock Origin, I've not used ABP for a few
    years, but I think think the filter syntax is close enough the same for
    it to work there.

    Putting accounts.google.com into hosts will stop the popup, but is
    likely to prevent you logging in to google altogether.

    AFAIK acrylic DNS is like a more flexible hosts file, but I don't think
    it can act on paths in URLs, you'd need a http proxy for that, I can't
    comment as I don't use it ...

    If google's popups on 3rd part sites annoy you, you probably need to
    install some sort of blocker, since a hosts file isn't flexible enough
    to stop the popup, but allow you to login to google.

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Jun 20 14:37:20 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 6/19/24 17:09, micky wrote:

    [snip]

    So I either have to keep turning it on and off by rediting HOSTS, or I
    have to allow the Google login box to show up, at least in one computer.

    It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't hide stuff I want to read.

    [snip]

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." -- Adolf Hitler

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Lloyd on Thu Jun 20 16:35:50 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 20 Jun 2024 14:37:20 -0500, Mark
    Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/19/24 17:09, micky wrote:

    [snip]

    So I either have to keep turning it on and off by rediting HOSTS, or I
    have to allow the Google login box to show up, at least in one computer.

    It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't hide stuff I want to read.

    Yes, and it's not the only box that hides some of the text (and I'm not counting ones with a good reason like getting you to agree to cookies).
    (Lots of complaints not specified.) I'm afraid the golden age of the Web
    is over.

    [snip]

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Burns on Thu Jun 20 16:40:40 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 20 Jun 2024 08:37:01 +0100, Andy
    Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    micky wrote:

    ||accounts.google.com/gsi/iframe/

    Puting the line above in uBlocks or probably the same line in at least
    one other ad blocker?
    I know that filter works in uBlock Origin, I've not used ABP for a few
    years, but I think think the filter syntax is close enough the same for
    it to work there.

    Putting accounts.google.com into hosts will stop the popup, but is
    likely to prevent you logging in to google altogether.

    We covered this already. You can log in without accounts.google.com by
    going to myaccount.google.com, and you can see, and I suppose modify
    everything in your profile. The only problem I've found with that line
    in the HOSTS file is that I couldn't install an Android app, but the
    line remains in the PC I use the most and if it causes me other
    progblems, I'll let you folks know.

    AFAIK acrylic DNS is like a more flexible hosts file, but I don't think
    it can act on paths in URLs, you'd need a http proxy for that, I can't >comment as I don't use it ...

    If google's popups on 3rd part sites annoy you, you probably need to
    install some sort of blocker, since a hosts file isn't flexible enough
    to stop the popup, but allow you to login to google.

    I understand. I'll see if they annoy me that much in the other computer,
    which I do use a lot. .

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