• Re: OT: Alternatives for RealVNC

    From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 16 14:07:46 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    In article <ld85dvFb4icU1@mid.individual.net>, Fokke Nauta wrote...

    Hi all,

    I have used RealVNC for remote control of other pc's for quite a few
    years. It was a free version. It worked well and I was very happy with it. They will stop with the free version and now I have to pay for it. It is
    € 234.57 per year. To my meaning this is too expensive and I don't want
    to pay this much. So now I have to search for alternatives.
    Does any of you have a suggestion? I'd like to read it.

    Many thanks beforehand.

    With regards,
    Fokke Nauta

    Never had a problem with UVNC.
    https://uvnc.com/

    --

    Phil, London

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  • From Fokke Nauta@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 16 14:51:11 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Hi all,

    I have used RealVNC for remote control of other pc's for quite a few
    years. It was a free version. It worked well and I was very happy with it.
    They will stop with the free version and now I have to pay for it. It is
    € 234.57 per year. To my meaning this is too expensive and I don't want
    to pay this much. So now I have to search for alternatives.
    Does any of you have a suggestion? I'd like to read it.

    Many thanks beforehand.

    With regards,
    Fokke Nauta

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  • From Fokke Nauta@21:1/5 to Philip Herlihy on Sun Jun 16 15:20:56 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 16/06/2024 15:07, Philip Herlihy wrote:
    In article <ld85dvFb4icU1@mid.individual.net>, Fokke Nauta wrote...

    Hi all,

    I have used RealVNC for remote control of other pc's for quite a few
    years. It was a free version. It worked well and I was very happy with it. >> They will stop with the free version and now I have to pay for it. It is
    € 234.57 per year. To my meaning this is too expensive and I don't want
    to pay this much. So now I have to search for alternatives.
    Does any of you have a suggestion? I'd like to read it.

    Many thanks beforehand.

    With regards,
    Fokke Nauta

    Never had a problem with UVNC.
    https://uvnc.com/


    Thanks very much. I'm going to install this one.
    I'll keep you informed.

    Fokke

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  • From Graham J@21:1/5 to Fokke Nauta on Sun Jun 16 16:11:21 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    I have used RealVNC for remote control of other pc's for quite a few
    years. It was a free version. It worked well and I was very happy with it. They will stop with the free version and now I have to pay for it. It is
    € 234.57 per year. To my meaning this is too expensive and I don't want
    to pay this much. So now I have to search for alternatives.
    Does any of you have a suggestion? I'd like to read it.

    Many thanks beforehand.

    I have found that <https://www.tightvnc.com/> works very well.

    Can anybody recommend a good alternative to TeamViewer please? It's
    supposed to be free for occasional non-business use but I can never get
    it to work for more than 30 seconds at a time - so it's useless for
    debugging a problem.


    --
    Graham J

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  • From Fokke Nauta@21:1/5 to Fokke Nauta on Sun Jun 16 17:22:34 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 16/06/2024 15:20, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 16/06/2024 15:07, Philip Herlihy wrote:
    In article <ld85dvFb4icU1@mid.individual.net>, Fokke Nauta wrote...

    Hi all,

    I have used RealVNC for remote control of other pc's for quite a few
    years. It was a free version. It worked well and I was very happy
    with it.
    They will stop with the free version and now I have to pay for it. It is >>> € 234.57 per year. To my meaning this is too expensive and I don't want >>> to pay this much. So now I have to search for alternatives.
    Does any of you have a suggestion? I'd like to read it.

    Many thanks beforehand.

    With regards,
    Fokke Nauta

    Never had a problem with UVNC.
    https://uvnc.com/


    Thanks very much. I'm going to install this one.
    I'll keep you informed.

    Fokke

    I installed the Viewer on my W10 Peo PC, and the Server on a W11 Pro laptop. When starting the viewer with the port 5900, the answer is that the
    connection failed.

    Fokke

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  • From Fokke Nauta@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun Jun 16 17:58:44 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 16/06/2024 17:40, Andy Burns wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    I installed the Viewer on my W10 Peo PC, and the Server on a W11 Pro
    laptop.
    When starting the viewer with the port 5900, the answer is that the
    connection failed.

    Have you enabled the outgoing and incoming ports in Defender Firewall?

    I switched off the Defender Firewall on the pc and the laptop. Did not
    make a difference.

    Fokke

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Graham J on Sun Jun 16 16:15:58 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Graham J wrote:

    Can anybody recommend a good alternative to TeamViewer please?  It's supposed to be free for occasional non-business use but I can never get
    it to work for more than 30 seconds at a time - so it's useless for
    debugging a problem.

    AnyDesk, or if you mean Win10/11, then the built-in QuickAssist (just
    press Win+Ctrl+Q) is good for most tasks (though it doesn't allow
    gaining remote admin permission within the session).

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Fokke Nauta on Sun Jun 16 17:03:05 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    I switched off the Defender Firewall on the pc and the laptop. Did not
    make a difference.

    can you see the server listening by starting a cmd.exe window, then using

    netstat -an | find ":5900"

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Fokke Nauta on Sun Jun 16 16:40:26 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    I installed the Viewer on my W10 Peo PC, and the Server on a W11 Pro
    laptop.
    When starting the viewer with the port 5900, the answer is that the connection failed.

    Have you enabled the outgoing and incoming ports in Defender Firewall?

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  • From Fokke Nauta@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun Jun 16 19:25:23 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 16/06/2024 18:03, Andy Burns wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    I switched off the Defender Firewall on the pc and the laptop. Did not
    make a difference.

    can you see the server listening by starting a cmd.exe window, then using

    netstat -an | find ":5900"


    I did.
    It says: TCP 0.0.0.0:5900 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING

    Fokke

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  • From Fokke Nauta@21:1/5 to Fokke Nauta on Mon Jun 17 13:24:02 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 16/06/2024 19:25, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 16/06/2024 18:03, Andy Burns wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    I switched off the Defender Firewall on the pc and the laptop. Did
    not make a difference.

    can you see the server listening by starting a cmd.exe window, then using

    netstat -an | find ":5900"


    I did.
    It says:  TCP 0.0.0.0:5900   0.0.0.0:0   LISTENING

    Fokke

    Any suggestions?

    Fokke

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Fokke Nauta on Mon Jun 17 12:34:12 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 17/06/2024 12:24, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    Any suggestions?

    immediately after trying to connect from client, shat does that netstat say?

    Any ESTABLISHED/FINWAIT/TIMEWAIT/CLOSEWAIT/LASTACK statuses?

    have you got authentication settings the same in client/server?

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 17 12:25:52 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    In article <ld8lg3FddtrU1@mid.individual.net>, Fokke Nauta wrote...

    On 16/06/2024 18:03, Andy Burns wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    I switched off the Defender Firewall on the pc and the laptop. Did not
    make a difference.

    can you see the server listening by starting a cmd.exe window, then using

    netstat -an | find ":5900"


    I did.
    It says: TCP 0.0.0.0:5900 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING

    Fokke

    I don't have a working UVNC server accessible at the moment. I've installed it loads of times. I always open the server application and tweak the admin settings, but I've done it so many times I can't remember what I do without one in front of me. I do always set a password. I'll then open Windows Settings and "Allow an app through Windows Firewall", choosing to allow through networks designated Public, or Private, or both as appropriate.

    --

    Phil, London

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  • From Nil@21:1/5 to Graham J on Mon Jun 17 11:47:02 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 16 Jun 2024, Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    Can anybody recommend a good alternative to TeamViewer please?
    It's supposed to be free for occasional non-business use but I can
    never get it to work for more than 30 seconds at a time - so it's
    useless for debugging a problem.

    That's surprising. I use Teamviewer sometimes for hours at a time and I
    find it very stable and reliable.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Nil on Mon Jun 17 17:27:02 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Nil wrote:

    That's surprising. I use Teamviewer sometimes for hours at a time and I
    find it very stable and reliable.

    I think they keep logs of who uses it to/from which machines, how often
    etc, to decide if it looks like business-use ...

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  • From Dennis@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 17 13:33:07 2024
    On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 17:27:02 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
    wrote:

    I think they keep logs of who uses it to/from which machines, how often
    etc, to decide if it looks like business-use ...

    I got dumped by TeamViewer for using it to help an elderly relative once
    every month or two. I found a free alternative, but it has trouble
    maintaining connections at times. It has good days and bad.

    --

    Dennis

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  • From Fokke Nauta@21:1/5 to Nil on Mon Jun 17 20:25:30 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 17/06/2024 17:47, Nil wrote:
    On 16 Jun 2024, Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    Can anybody recommend a good alternative to TeamViewer please?
    It's supposed to be free for occasional non-business use but I can
    never get it to work for more than 30 seconds at a time - so it's
    useless for debugging a problem.

    That's surprising. I use Teamviewer sometimes for hours at a time and I
    find it very stable and reliable.

    I use TeamViewer as well, for a remote pc on a distance, it works well.
    It's only for one client.
    In our house we have 5 clients. That's the reason I used a different application.

    Fokke

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  • From Fokke Nauta@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon Jun 17 20:21:51 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 17/06/2024 13:34, Andy Burns wrote:
    On 17/06/2024 12:24, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    Any suggestions?

    immediately after trying to connect from client, shat does that netstat
    say?

    Netstat ? I don't know that.

    Any ESTABLISHED/FINWAIT/TIMEWAIT/CLOSEWAIT/LASTACK statuses?

    ?

    have you got authentication settings the same in client/server?

    I installed both and did not make any change in the configuration.

    Fokke

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Fokke Nauta on Mon Jun 17 19:54:50 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    Netstat ? I don't know that.


    try to connect VNC, then repeat

    the same command you ran before, within a couple of seconds, just
    copy/paste the output here ...


    netstat -an | find ":5900"

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  • From Nil@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon Jun 17 15:06:46 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 17 Jun 2024, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    Nil wrote:

    That's surprising. I use Teamviewer sometimes for hours at a time
    and I find it very stable and reliable.

    I think they keep logs of who uses it to/from which machines, how
    often etc, to decide if it looks like business-use ...

    That could be. I don't use it very often, but sometimes those sessions
    are long.

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  • From Fokke Nauta@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Wed Jun 19 09:32:54 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 17/06/2024 20:54, Andy Burns wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    Netstat ? I don't know that.


    try to connect VNC, then repeat

    the same command you ran before, within a couple of seconds, just
    copy/paste the output here ...


    netstat -an | find ":5900"



    I could not make a connection.
    Copied your command and pasted in the command line. As administrator. No output. And after closing UltraVNC it restarted my pc. This happend
    before as well.

    I give it up.

    Fokke

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  • From Graham J@21:1/5 to Fokke Nauta on Wed Jun 19 10:40:45 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    [snip]


    I give it up.

    Be sure the client and server PCs are on the same LAN and each can
    "ping" the other before you start.

    Try https://www.tightvnc.com/

    Install it. Read the documentation at:

    <https://www.tightvnc.com/doc/win/TightVNC_for_Windows-Installation_and_Getting_Started.pdf>

    ... and make sure you configure it properly.


    --
    Graham J

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  • From Fokke Nauta@21:1/5 to Graham J on Wed Jun 19 13:51:13 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 19/06/2024 11:40, Graham J wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    [snip]


    I give it up.

    Be sure the client and server PCs are on the same LAN and each can
    "ping" the other before you start.

    Try https://www.tightvnc.com/

    Install it.  Read the documentation at:

    <https://www.tightvnc.com/doc/win/TightVNC_for_Windows-Installation_and_Getting_Started.pdf>

    ... and make sure you configure it properly.




    Thanks.

    But I decided to pay for RealVNC and go on with it. I have a few remote
    pc's without a keyboard and monitor, and they are not easy accessable.
    So it's quite a job to install new applications.

    You and everybody else thanks for your help.

    Fokke

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to Graham J on Thu Jun 20 14:28:16 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 16:11:21 +0100, Graham J wrote:

    Can anybody recommend a good alternative to TeamViewer please? It's
    supposed to be free for occasional non-business use but I can never get
    it to work for more than 30 seconds at a time - so it's useless for
    debugging a problem.

    Mail them and explain it's for personal use and they will (probably) fix
    that for you. They did when I contacted them about it.

    --
    s|b

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