• Canon scanner problems in W10

    From John C.@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 25 07:59:28 2024
    I have a Canon Canoscan 8400F scanner which is still mechanically
    functional. However, I'm pretty much unable to use it in Windows 10 and
    my understanding is that problem started for others Canon scanner owners
    after a Windows 10 update. The update dropped support for Twain drivers
    and now W10 will only allow WIA scanners.

    Have any of you figured out a way around this problem?

    TIA

    PS. I already know that I can use NAPS2:

    https://www.naps2.com/

    It only allows me to scan one page at a time before it closes the module though.
    --
    John C.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to John C. on Sat May 25 11:58:01 2024
    On 5/25/2024 10:59 AM, John C. wrote:
    I have a Canon Canoscan 8400F scanner which is still mechanically
    functional. However, I'm pretty much unable to use it in Windows 10 and
    my understanding is that problem started for others Canon scanner owners after a Windows 10 update. The update dropped support for Twain drivers
    and now W10 will only allow WIA scanners.

    Have any of you figured out a way around this problem?

    TIA

    PS. I already know that I can use NAPS2:

    https://www.naps2.com/

    It only allows me to scan one page at a time before it closes the module though.


    It has likely received an error of some sort, which tossed it out
    of a multi-page scan.

    There seem to be some multi-page options. The project offers an SDK
    for others to use, so perhaps not all these options are exposed in a
    GUI on the main project.

    https://github.com/cyanfish/naps2/issues/111

    There is mention of a Batch Scan window.

    https://github.com/cyanfish/naps2/issues/76

    It seems to be written in C# (.cs) . The SDK has
    logging, but only by adding a short routine manually
    to the code.

    OK, it has a Documentation page.

    https://www.naps2.com/support

    "NAPS2 works with Windows 7 SP1, 8, 8.1, 10, and 11.
    On Windows 7 and earlier, you may need to install the .NET Framework 4.6.2 or later.
    The last versions of NAPS2 that support Windows XP (SP3) are 6.1.2 and 5.8.2. "

    You're supposed to be able to press the "Scan" button a second time, to
    scan pages one-at-a-time. It would appear the module is not supposed to exit.

    https://www.naps2.com/windows-scanning

    If it is throwing errors, then the options here might not work properly.

    https://www.naps2.com/doc/batch-scan

    One source of blowing up, might be a .NET version bump.

    Note that Microsoft is dealing with a driver exploit issue, and Windows Defender could also
    be involved. Certain drivers have been blacklisted. I ran into a driver
    I didn't even know was on the Insider disk I use, and this was related
    to my Insider starting so many years ago, I had tried Asus Probe II or so
    (on the Test Machine), when the machine was relatively new. Removing the program, did not happen to remove the driver it deposited at the time.
    And that driver is exploitable somehow. This doesn't match your symptoms though, because only a "suspicious activity", the TWAIN driver accessing something it should not try to access, would get a Windows Defender response, and you would also get some sort of prompt (or even, damage). Driver blacklisting,
    you would have received zero scans and no forward progress at all.

    Paul

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  • From Zaidy036@21:1/5 to John C. on Sat May 25 12:18:17 2024
    On 5/25/2024 10:59 AM, John C. wrote:
    I have a Canon Canoscan 8400F scanner which is still mechanically
    functional. However, I'm pretty much unable to use it in Windows 10 and
    my understanding is that problem started for others Canon scanner owners after a Windows 10 update. The update dropped support for Twain drivers
    and now W10 will only allow WIA scanners.

    Have any of you figured out a way around this problem?

    TIA

    PS. I already know that I can use NAPS2:

    https://www.naps2.com/

    It only allows me to scan one page at a time before it closes the module though.

    Look at VueScan <https://www.hamrick.com/>:
    If you do little scanning just use free test and instead of
    saving/printing with VueScan do a screen copy.

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  • From Bill Bradshaw@21:1/5 to John C. on Sat May 25 09:07:03 2024
    John C. wrote:
    I have a Canon Canoscan 8400F scanner which is still mechanically
    functional. However, I'm pretty much unable to use it in Windows 10
    and my understanding is that problem started for others Canon scanner
    owners after a Windows 10 update. The update dropped support for
    Twain drivers and now W10 will only allow WIA scanners.

    Have any of you figured out a way around this problem?

    TIA

    PS. I already know that I can use NAPS2:

    https://www.naps2.com/

    It only allows me to scan one page at a time before it closes the
    module though.

    This kind of made me nervous because I have an Epson WF-4740 and I do
    scanning at times. Running version Windows 10 Pro 4412. I just tested my scanning and it works fine. The Epson scanning program uses Twain. I also opened the scanning program in IranView.

    <Bill>

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  • From MikeS@21:1/5 to John C. on Sat May 25 20:45:21 2024
    On 25/05/2024 15:59, John C. wrote:
    I have a Canon Canoscan 8400F scanner which is still mechanically
    functional. However, I'm pretty much unable to use it in Windows 10 and
    my understanding is that problem started for others Canon scanner owners after a Windows 10 update. The update dropped support for Twain drivers
    and now W10 will only allow WIA scanners.

    Have any of you figured out a way around this problem?

    TIA

    PS. I already know that I can use NAPS2:

    https://www.naps2.com/

    It only allows me to scan one page at a time before it closes the module though.

    I use NAPS2 for multiple pages. Works fine on Win10 and Win11.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Bill Bradshaw on Sat May 25 20:29:02 2024
    On Sat, 25 May 2024 09:07:03 -0800, Bill Bradshaw wrote:

    John C. wrote:
    I have a Canon Canoscan 8400F scanner which is still mechanically functional. However, I'm pretty much unable to use it in Windows 10
    and my understanding is that problem started for others Canon scanner owners after a Windows 10 update. The update dropped support for
    Twain drivers and now W10 will only allow WIA scanners.

    Have any of you figured out a way around this problem?

    TIA

    PS. I already know that I can use NAPS2:

    https://www.naps2.com/

    It only allows me to scan one page at a time before it closes the
    module though.

    This kind of made me nervous because I have an Epson WF-4740 and I do scanning at times. Running version Windows 10 Pro 4412. I just tested my scanning and it works fine. The Epson scanning program uses Twain. I also opened the scanning program in IranView.

    <Bill>

    I also have 10.0.19045.4412, and my Twain scans using Irfanview and
    my venerable Canon LiDE-50 continue to work.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From John Smith@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 26 13:04:31 2024
    My scanner is Canon 8800F. I'd never installed it on other than xp. So
    this AM I installed it on my Win10 (22H2, Build 19045.4412). Says
    install cd first, it took like 5 minutes, lots of stuff I'd never use.
    Reboot and install IrfanView32 bit. Using IrfanView I scanned a doc.
    Appears to work just like xp. Selecting Twain device (the scanner) in IrfanView raised no objections from Win10,.

    This is probably not what you wanted to know, but you might pick out
    relevant pieces of it.

    On Sat, 25 May 2024 07:59:28 -0700, "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    I have a Canon Canoscan 8400F scanner which is still mechanically
    functional. However, I'm pretty much unable to use it in Windows 10 and
    my understanding is that problem started for others Canon scanner owners >after a Windows 10 update. The update dropped support for Twain drivers
    and now W10 will only allow WIA scanners.

    Have any of you figured out a way around this problem?

    TIA

    PS. I already know that I can use NAPS2:

    https://www.naps2.com/

    It only allows me to scan one page at a time before it closes the module >though.

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  • From John C.@21:1/5 to MikeS on Mon May 27 15:53:48 2024
    MikeS wrote:
    On 25/05/2024 15:59, John C. wrote:
    I have a Canon Canoscan 8400F scanner which is still mechanically
    functional. However, I'm pretty much unable to use it in Windows 10 and
    my understanding is that problem started for others Canon scanner owners
    after a Windows 10 update. The update dropped support for Twain drivers
    and now W10 will only allow WIA scanners.

    Have any of you figured out a way around this problem?

    TIA

    PS. I already know that I can use NAPS2:

    https://www.naps2.com/

    It only allows me to scan one page at a time before it closes the module
    though.

    I use NAPS2 for multiple pages. Works fine on Win10 and Win11.

    Found it:

    1. Open the drop-down on the "Scan" button
    2. Select "Batch Scan"
    3. In the "Batch Scan" window that opens, select "Mutiple scans (prompt
    between scans)
    4. Click the "Start" button.

    It will scan multiple images, but again, it closes the twain module
    after every one. And every time it does so, it adjusts the lamp and this
    might wear the machine out prematurely.

    I just want the twain module to stay open the way it used to do.

    --
    John C.

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