• Help please - Error displaying search results

    From scbs29@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 23 12:32:14 2024
    If I do a search from within a browser I get the following:
    There was an error displaying the search results. Please try again.
    This occurs with Firefox, Vivaldi and Waterfox using DuckDuckGo or Bing search engines.
    This has only just started happening.
    Can anyone pplease advise ?

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 23 15:43:19 2024
    Fred,

    If I do a search from within a browser I get the following:
    There was an error displaying the search results. Please try again.
    This occurs with Firefox, Vivaldi and Waterfox using DuckDuckGo or
    Bing search engines.
    This has only just started happening.
    Can anyone pplease advise ?

    I tried to use DDG today and also noticed something going on, as I got no or just a single result - even when looking for "bing". And AFAIK DGG gets its results from Bing, so the problem could well be the latter.

    You could try Google or one of the other search-engines, like https://search.brave.com/

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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  • From shemp13@outlook.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 23 14:10:14 2024
    Microsoft issues. Duck Duck Go uses Bing search engine.

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  • From Big Al@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 23 11:34:44 2024
    On 5/23/24 07:32 AM, scbs29 wrote:
    If I do a search from within a browser I get the following:
    There was an error displaying the search results. Please try again.
    This occurs with Firefox, Vivaldi and Waterfox using DuckDuckGo or Bing search engines.
    This has only just started happening.
    Can anyone pplease advise ?

    I brought up Bing this morning and all I got was the search box. I usually open it to see what
    picture is there. But nothing, just black screen and box for input, and the bing logo someplace.
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  • From John K.Eason@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 23 19:06:00 2024
    In article <u0au4j9sq66sp9794a1rl56q02p2ougql5@4ax.com>, scbs29@fred.talktalk.net
    (scbs29) wrote:

    *From:* scbs29 <scbs29@fred.talktalk.net>
    *Date:* Thu, 23 May 2024 12:32:14 +0100

    If I do a search from within a browser I get the following:
    There was an error displaying the search results. Please try again.
    This occurs with Firefox, Vivaldi and Waterfox using DuckDuckGo or
    Bing search engines.
    This has only just started happening.
    Can anyone pplease advise ?

    MS Bing and Copilot were down earlier today. See https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/23/bing_and_copilot_fall_from/
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    John

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to R.Wieser on Thu May 23 16:05:18 2024
    R.Wieser <address@is.invalid> wrote:

    AFAIK DGG gets its results from Bing, so the problem could well be the latter.

    Yep, Bing fell over.

    You could try Google or one of the other search-engines, like https://search.brave.com/

    Or a privacy-oriented search that uses Google's engine, like Startpage (https://www.startpage.com/).

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Fri May 24 18:13:03 2024
    On Thu, 23 May 2024 16:05:18 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

    Or a privacy-oriented search that uses Google's engine, like Startpage (https://www.startpage.com/).

    I thought I read that there are significant privacy problems in
    Startpage lately. Am I confusing that with something else?


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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Fri May 24 22:26:24 2024
    Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    Or a privacy-oriented search that uses Google's engine, like Startpage
    (https://www.startpage.com/).

    I thought I read that there are significant privacy problems in
    Startpage lately. Am I confusing that with something else?

    The rumors started when Startpage was acquired by a marketing company
    back in 2018. A controlling share is owned by System 1 (who also
    acquired Waterfox). That was over 6 years ago. No one has yet detected Startpage is collecting personal data. Public concern was fueled by
    just speculation. Gee, an advertising company just must harvest
    anything and everything processed by all their properties.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System1

    https://support.startpage.com/hc/en-us/articles/4521498779156-What-it-means-for-Startpage-now-that-System1-is-a-publicly-traded-company

    Yet how many Avast, AVG, and Ccleaner users fled away from those
    products when Avast added their marketing platform into their products,
    into AVG when they acquired that, and into CCleaner when they acquired Piriform?

    Facts are boring. Rumors are salacious. Very hard to defende or repair
    a reputation damaged by rumors.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to winston on Sat May 25 17:08:34 2024
    winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    Stan Brown wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    Or a privacy-oriented search that uses Google's engine, like Startpage
    (https://www.startpage.com/).

    I thought I read that there are significant privacy problems in
    Startpage lately. Am I confusing that with something else?

    A few years old
    <https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/is-startpage-legit/>

    Fwiw, the above source, makeuseof.com DNS hosting provider is Amazon,
    iirc, Canada.

    Also, Startpage is supported by ad revenue. While Startpage may not be storing ip addresses, that doesn't limit the device's ip address being
    used for or with the ads.

    Startpage is headquartered in Hague, Netherlands, so outside the reach
    of US FBI's NSLs (National Security Letters) that force a company to
    retain records despite what the company claims, but obviously not
    outside the realm of their own laws. Duck Duck Go is headquartered in
    Paoli, Pennsylvania, USA. The USA is one of the "Five Eyes" countries (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes). Netherlands is not.

    Despite what DDG claims, they could also be saving IP addresses for both
    their own telemetry to modify their service, and for other purposes.

    https://www.wired.com/story/duckduckgo-microsoft-twitter-ft-bush-assassination-whatsapp/
    https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/use-of-third-party-microsoft-trackers-calls-privacy-status-of-duckduckgo-into-question-privacy-browser-found-to-quietly-allow-user-tracking/

    DDG was sharing personal data to Microsoft when using Bing. DDG
    promised to stop that practice. Did they yet?

    If there is advertising at Startpage, it is so subtle that I don't see
    any. Try:

    https://www.startpage.com/do/search?q=intel%20cpu

    which gives the following web page:

    https://imgur.com/a/q7soQlE

    Where's the advertising? They claim to not share personal data, too.
    I'm still waiting, as opposed to reports about DDG, that someone has
    discovered Startpage is sharing data with Google, or with System1.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to winston on Sun May 26 00:06:05 2024
    winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    Where's the advertising?

    Perform a search.
    The section that shows 'Related searches' are sponsored revenue sources.

    Ah, as I showed in the screenshot if a searcg, there were no ads (aka
    sponsored hits). That was due to using uBlock Origin. When I disabled
    uBO, yep, I saw the sponsored hits.

    I also see ads at DDG. After each hit that is sponsored is an "AD" icon
    inside a square box, and a "Report ad" hyperlink after the URL for a
    hit. I had to disable uBO to see those, too.

    https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/company/advertise-on-duckduckgo-search/
    https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/company/ads-by-microsoft-on-duckduckgo-private-search/

    They both need to survive. They are NOT altruistic ventures that
    continue to exist until the funding owner runs out of money. However,
    if uBO can filter out those ads, other adblockers should work, too, like AdBlock Plus.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Sun May 26 14:13:04 2024
    On Fri, 24 May 2024 22:26:24 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
    Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    [quoted text muted]
    (https://www.startpage.com/).

    I thought I read that there are significant privacy problems in
    Startpage lately. Am I confusing that with something else?

    The rumors started when Startpage was acquired by a marketing company
    back in 2018. A controlling share is owned by System 1 (who also
    acquired Waterfox). That was over 6 years ago. No one has yet detected Startpage is collecting personal data. Public concern was fueled by
    just speculation. Gee, an advertising company just must harvest
    anything and everything processed by all their properties.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System1

    https://support.startpage.com/hc/en-us/articles/4521498779156-What-it-means-for-Startpage-now-that-System1-is-a-publicly-traded-company

    Thanks, Vanguard.

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