On 12/5/2024, malone wrote:

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in the
clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar buttons,
double checked the regional settings, but I still only get the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

https://dualitysoft.com/dsclock/

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Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in the
clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar buttons,
double checked the regional settings, but I still only get the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200, malone <malone@nospam.net.nz> wrote:

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in the
clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar buttons,
double checked the regional settings, but I still only get the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

All Windows PCs will be like this soon. It's being rolled out in
stages.

We are in a post-modern era where dates are less and less mportant.
You've heard of post-racial society, neo-conservatives, French-revial,
and neo-colongial? All these are subsets of post-modern and we're at
the next stage of this where dates are being abolished. On what was
once July 1st, a new "clock" will be installed on PC's worldwide which
will list the number of days since the invention of Windows.

It sounds rought but we'll get used to it.

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In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz (malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in
the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only get
the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse over the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you just see the 24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

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Regards
John

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On 5/12/2024 5:18 PM, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 3:59 PM, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz
(malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in
the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only get
the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse over
the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you just
see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

I'm at W10 Pro 19045.4291 and I still have BOTH the date (5/12/2024) and
time (5:10 PM) simultaneously on the taskbar (taskbar at normal height). Hovering adds the week day (Sunday) and date with the month in written
form (Sunday, May 12, 2024). Oh oh, I see the laptop's updating right
now... 8-O

After the update I'm now at 19045.4355, same as the OP. And I still show
BOTH the date and time on the taskbar as before.

I just got this new laptop a few days ago so was unfamiliar with the
settings. One of the main reasons I got it was it came with W10 Pro. But
it's been a few years since I messed with (and missed) W10.

Anyway, it turns out that in settings/taskbar there is a switch that
says "Use small taskbar buttons". When I switch it on the taskbar halves
in size and the date disappears showing only the time.

So John is right. The larger taskbar shows both date and time and the
smaller time only. Perhaps this laptop having a 10" screen was why it's
set at the double taskbar in settings, since the smaller taskbar is
pretty much unusable on it.

So to the OP all I can suggest is to check the settings/taskbar setting
for the taskbar size switch. I know you said you tried it but...

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On 5/12/2024 3:59 PM, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz (malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in
the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only get
the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse over the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you just see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

I'm at W10 Pro 19045.4291 and I still have BOTH the date (5/12/2024) and
time (5:10 PM) simultaneously on the taskbar (taskbar at normal height). Hovering adds the week day (Sunday) and date with the month in written
form (Sunday, May 12, 2024). Oh oh, I see the laptop's updating right
now... 8-O

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On Mon-13-May-2024 10:59 am, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz (malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in
the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only get
the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse over the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you just see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

Yes, I see that when hovering as well. And I also see the date when
increasing the height of the taskbar. And only the time when I select
the small task bar button.

I've just found another laptop, Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355 with
both the time and date in the task bar. So having date and time must be
a feature of Windows 10. Is there a relevant setting somewhere? Or
perhaps there is some form of conflict with another application in my
initial computer? And why did the date suddenly disappear?

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On 13/05/2024 02:17, malone wrote:

On Mon-13-May-2024 1:06 pm, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 5:18 PM, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 3:59 PM, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz
(malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in
the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only get
the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse over
the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you just >>>> see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

I'm at W10 Pro 19045.4291 and I still have BOTH the date (5/12/2024)
and
time (5:10 PM) simultaneously on the taskbar (taskbar at normal
height).
Hovering adds the week day (Sunday) and date with the month in written
form (Sunday, May 12, 2024). Oh oh, I see the laptop's updating right
now...  8-O

After the update I'm now at 19045.4355, same as the OP. And I still
show BOTH the date and time on the taskbar as before.

I just got this new laptop a few days ago so was unfamiliar with the
settings. One of the main reasons I got it was it came with W10 Pro.
But it's been a few years since I messed with (and missed) W10.

Anyway, it turns out that in settings/taskbar there is a switch that
says "Use small taskbar buttons". When I switch it on the taskbar
halves in size and the date disappears showing only the time.

So John is right. The larger taskbar shows both date and time and the
smaller time only. Perhaps this laptop having a 10" screen was why
it's set at the double taskbar in settings, since the smaller taskbar
is pretty much unusable on it.

So to the OP all I can suggest is to check the settings/taskbar
setting for the taskbar size switch. I know you said you tried it but...

I've rebooted, double checked the taskbar size - still can't get the
date back!!

I use Windows 11 but for Windows 10 try this article:

<https://softkeys.uk/blogs/blog/how-to-display-date-and-time-on-taskbar-windows-10>

Reap the steps line by line and do it on your machine so that it works.

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On Mon-13-May-2024 1:06 pm, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 5:18 PM, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 3:59 PM, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz
(malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in
the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only get
the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse over
the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you just
see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

I'm at W10 Pro 19045.4291 and I still have BOTH the date (5/12/2024) and
time (5:10 PM) simultaneously on the taskbar (taskbar at normal height).
Hovering adds the week day (Sunday) and date with the month in written
form (Sunday, May 12, 2024). Oh oh, I see the laptop's updating right
now...  8-O

After the update I'm now at 19045.4355, same as the OP. And I still show
BOTH the date and time on the taskbar as before.

I just got this new laptop a few days ago so was unfamiliar with the settings. One of the main reasons I got it was it came with W10 Pro. But
it's been a few years since I messed with (and missed) W10.

Anyway, it turns out that in settings/taskbar there is a switch that
says "Use small taskbar buttons". When I switch it on the taskbar halves
in size and the date disappears showing only the time.

So John is right. The larger taskbar shows both date and time and the
smaller time only. Perhaps this laptop having a 10" screen was why it's
set at the double taskbar in settings, since the smaller taskbar is
pretty much unusable on it.

So to the OP all I can suggest is to check the settings/taskbar setting
for the taskbar size switch. I know you said you tried it but...

I've rebooted, double checked the taskbar size - still can't get the
date back!!

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malone wrote:

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in the
clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar buttons,
double checked the regional settings, but I still only get the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

Try changing the screen resolution.
More pixels may allow for more screen items.

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On Mon-13-May-2024 1:25 pm, James Dodds wrote:

On 13/05/2024 02:17, malone wrote:

On Mon-13-May-2024 1:06 pm, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 5:18 PM, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 3:59 PM, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz
(malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in >>>>>> the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked / >>>>>> unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only get >>>>>> the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse over >>>>> the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you just >>>>> see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

I'm at W10 Pro 19045.4291 and I still have BOTH the date (5/12/2024)
and
time (5:10 PM) simultaneously on the taskbar (taskbar at normal
height).
Hovering adds the week day (Sunday) and date with the month in written >>>> form (Sunday, May 12, 2024). Oh oh, I see the laptop's updating right
now...  8-O

After the update I'm now at 19045.4355, same as the OP. And I still
show BOTH the date and time on the taskbar as before.

I just got this new laptop a few days ago so was unfamiliar with the
settings. One of the main reasons I got it was it came with W10 Pro.
But it's been a few years since I messed with (and missed) W10.

Anyway, it turns out that in settings/taskbar there is a switch that
says "Use small taskbar buttons". When I switch it on the taskbar
halves in size and the date disappears showing only the time.

So John is right. The larger taskbar shows both date and time and the
smaller time only. Perhaps this laptop having a 10" screen was why
it's set at the double taskbar in settings, since the smaller taskbar
is pretty much unusable on it.

So to the OP all I can suggest is to check the settings/taskbar
setting for the taskbar size switch. I know you said you tried it but...

I've rebooted, double checked the taskbar size - still can't get the
date back!!

I use Windows 11 but for Windows 10 try this article:

<https://softkeys.uk/blogs/blog/how-to-display-date-and-time-on-taskbar-windows-10>

Reap the steps line by line and do it on your machine so that it works.

I don't think that article is relevant to my version of Windows 10. I've
no "Show Clock" toggle and there's no "Date & Time" section in the
taskbar settings options

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On 5/12/2024 9:14 PM, malone wrote:

On Mon-13-May-2024 10:59 am, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz (malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in
the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only get
the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse over the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you just see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

Yes, I see that when hovering as well. And I also see the date when increasing the height of the taskbar. And only the time when I select the small task bar button.

I've just found another laptop, Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355 with both the time and date in the task bar. So having date and time must be a feature of Windows 10. Is there a relevant setting somewhere? Or perhaps there is some form of conflict with

another application in my initial computer? And why did the date suddenly disappear?

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/taskbar-does-not-show-date/f2764f6f-d1cc-482c-ab4f-dce871b0afa1

Settings : Personalization : Taskbar : "Use small taskbar buttons" [switch off]

It's the fourth one down, on that screen.

Paul

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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 13 May 2024 13:14:37 +1200, malone <malone@nospam.net.nz> wrote:

On Mon-13-May-2024 10:59 am, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz (malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in
the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only get
the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse over the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you just see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

Yes, I see that when hovering as well. And I also see the date when >increasing the height of the taskbar. And only the time when I select
the small task bar button.

I've just found another laptop, Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355 with
both the time and date in the task bar. So having date and time must be
a feature of Windows 10.

Yes, I have both win10Home and Pro and both show the time, the day of
the week, and the mm/dd/yyyy. As you plainly know, you get that by
making the taskbar two lines high.

To get the time to give seconds, one of the tweakers does that. I think
it's 7+ Taskbar Tweaker.

Is there a relevant setting somewhere? Or

Not that I know of, that is, it worked without my setting anything.

perhaps there is some form of conflict with another application in my
initial computer?

That might be it.

And why did the date suddenly disappear?

I still think it's the new MS post-modern date policy. Fortunately I
sill have my watch.

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On Mon-13-May-2024 4:33 pm, Paul wrote:

On 5/12/2024 9:14 PM, malone wrote:

On Mon-13-May-2024 10:59 am, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz (malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in
the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked /
unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only get
the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse over the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you just see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

Yes, I see that when hovering as well. And I also see the date when increasing the height of the taskbar. And only the time when I select the small task bar button.

I've just found another laptop, Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355 with both the time and date in the task bar. So having date and time must be a feature of Windows 10. Is there a relevant setting somewhere? Or perhaps there is some form of conflict

with another application in my initial computer? And why did the date suddenly disappear?

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/taskbar-does-not-show-date/f2764f6f-d1cc-482c-ab4f-dce871b0afa1

Settings : Personalization : Taskbar : "Use small taskbar buttons" [switch off]

It's the fourth one down, on that screen.

Paul

Yes, that was the first thing I did. Still no date.

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On 5/13/2024 1:28 AM, malone wrote:

Yes, that was the first thing I did. Still no date.

So tell me, in your opinion, is the clock time string
perfectly centered in the Taskbar colored area ?

Or is the clock a bit too high or a bit too low, indicating
the date field got "masked off" somehow ?

You notice how when you fiddle with that particular control, that the
output is pixel-perfect centered.

When Microsoft did the half-height taskbar (no longer supported),
the materials in the Task Bar were not properly centered or
scaled all that well. It was a bodge job, an accident that it
worked at all. I was using the half-height taskbar, because
it made my VirtualBox window fit better.

Paul

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On Mon-13-May-2024 6:35 pm, Paul wrote:

On 5/13/2024 1:28 AM, malone wrote:

Yes, that was the first thing I did. Still no date.

So tell me, in your opinion, is the clock time string
perfectly centered in the Taskbar colored area ?

Or is the clock a bit too high or a bit too low, indicating
the date field got "masked off" somehow ?

You notice how when you fiddle with that particular control, that the
output is pixel-perfect centered.

When Microsoft did the half-height taskbar (no longer supported),
the materials in the Task Bar were not properly centered or
scaled all that well. It was a bodge job, an accident that it
worked at all. I was using the half-height taskbar, because
it made my VirtualBox window fit better.

Paul

No, it seems very well aligned. In fact when hovering over the time and
then all the items to the left in that group on the left (task bar is at
the bottom) you can see they're all totally aligned, so I don't think
the date is in there anywhere.

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In article <v1rpn0$3310h$2@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz (malone) wrote:

So to the OP all I can suggest is to check the settings/taskbar
setting for the taskbar size switch. I know you said you tried it
but...

I've rebooted, double checked the taskbar size - still can't get
the date back!!

It's not the taskbar size, but the taskbar *icon* size that you need to change

--
Regards
John

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In article <v1rm9d$32dd7$1@dont-email.me>, noemail@none.com (AJL) wrote:

*From:* AJL <noemail@none.com>
*Date:* Sun, 12 May 2024 17:18:53 -0700

On 5/12/2024 3:59 PM, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz
(malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date

in

the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked

/

unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only

get

the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse
over the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you
just see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

I'm at W10 Pro 19045.4291 and I still have BOTH the date
(5/12/2024) and time (5:10 PM) simultaneously on the taskbar
(taskbar at normal height). Hovering adds the week day (Sunday) and
date with the month in written form (Sunday, May 12, 2024). Oh oh,
I see the laptop's updating right now... 8-O

Ah ok. I've always used 21" displays for both my W7 and W10 PCs so am using the small icon setting for the taskbar as others have mentioned.
Not sure I could cope with the reduction of useable screen area on a laptop...

--
Regards
John

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On 5/13/2024 4:21 AM, John K.Eason wrote:

noemail@none.com (AJL) wrote:

in settings/taskbar there is a switch that says "Use small taskbar
buttons". When I switch it on the taskbar halves in size and the
date disappears showing only the time.

The larger taskbar shows both date and time and the smaller time
only. Perhaps this laptop having a 10" screen was why it's set at
the double taskbar in settings, since the smaller taskbar is
pretty much unusable on it.

Ah ok. I've always used 21" displays for both my W7 and W10 PCs so am
using the small icon setting for the taskbar as others have
mentioned. Not sure I could cope with the reduction of usable screen
area on a laptop...

I've always been a non-serious hobbyist. In recent times I tried to get
along without Windows completely by using just my Android tablets and Chromebooks. It works for 99% of the stuff I do but not all (like having
a decent Usenet newsreader for example). I had actually given away all
my Windows stuff to grand/greatgrandkids. But I finally relented and got
this cheapie 10" W10 laptop to fill in that last 1%. Because of its poor
screen resolution the small taskbar icons just don't work for me. Bottom
line: That's a lot of words just to say the small/large icon date/no
date taskbar setting is pretty much a YMMV thing...

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On 5/13/2024 2:56 AM, malone wrote:

On Mon-13-May-2024 6:35 pm, Paul wrote:

On 5/13/2024 1:28 AM, malone wrote:

Yes, that was the first thing I did. Still no date.

So tell me, in your opinion, is the clock time string
perfectly centered in the Taskbar colored area ?

Or is the clock a bit too high or a bit too low, indicating
the date field got "masked off" somehow ?

You notice how when you fiddle with that particular control, that the
output is pixel-perfect centered.

When Microsoft did the half-height taskbar (no longer supported),
the materials in the Task Bar were not properly centered or
scaled all that well. It was a bodge job, an accident that it
worked at all. I was using the half-height taskbar, because
it made my VirtualBox window fit better.

    Paul

No, it seems very well aligned. In fact when hovering over the time and then all the items to the left in that group on the left (task bar is at the bottom) you can see they're all totally aligned, so I don't think the date is in there anywhere.

I think you mentioned this already, you may have stretched
your Taskbar to double height and noted the two line display
came back. Someone suggested in a thread I was reading,
that the rendering could take DPI into account (the screen
scale setting), and if that was off enough, the 7 point font
they were using would no longer fit. And then it switches
to the one-line display.

Paul

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On 5/13/2024 12:06 PM, AJL wrote:

On 5/13/2024 4:21 AM, John K.Eason wrote:

noemail@none.com (AJL) wrote:

in settings/taskbar there is a switch that says "Use small taskbar
 buttons". When I switch it on the taskbar halves in size and the
date disappears showing only the time.

The larger taskbar shows both date and time and the smaller time
only. Perhaps this laptop having a 10" screen was why it's set at
the double taskbar in settings, since the smaller taskbar is
pretty much unusable on it.

Ah ok. I've always used 21" displays for both my W7 and W10 PCs so am
using the small icon setting for the taskbar as others have
mentioned. Not sure I could cope with the reduction of usable screen
area on a laptop...

I've always been a non-serious hobbyist. In recent times I tried to get
along without Windows completely by using just my Android tablets and Chromebooks. It works for 99% of the stuff I do but not all (like having
a decent Usenet newsreader for example). I had actually given away all
my Windows stuff to grand/greatgrandkids. But I finally relented and got
this cheapie 10" W10 laptop to fill in that last 1%. Because of its poor screen resolution the small taskbar icons just don't work for me. Bottom line: That's a lot of words just to say the small/large icon date/no
date taskbar setting is pretty much a YMMV thing...

One of my presumptions, was that for some reason, Microsoft wanted
to encourage higher resolution screens. That means selecting a small
screen device, is less likely to be satisfying. Right now, I would
guess Win10 would look better on a given screen, than Win11. And
when Win12 comes out, who knows what horrors await for rendering.

On some screens, you may see as many as three different rendering
methods at once on the screen. ClearType, Some GrayScale Thing,
and there are even some interfaces using fixed fonts from 1980.
It makes for a jarring experience when you see this. They cannot
go backwards -- they can only "go forward", whatever that means.

The idea is, we're supposed to buy 4K screens, just to have
increased pixel density.

Paul

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On 5/13/2024 9:50 AM, Paul wrote:

On 5/13/2024 12:06 PM, AJL wrote:

I've always been a non-serious hobbyist. In recent times I tried to
get along without Windows completely by using just my Android
tablets and Chromebooks. It works for 99% of the stuff I do but not
all (like having a decent Usenet newsreader for example). I had
actually given away all my Windows stuff to grand/greatgrandkids.
But I finally relented and got this cheapie 10" W10 laptop to fill
in that last 1%. Because of its poor screen resolution the small
taskbar icons just don't work for me. Bottom line: That's a lot of
words just to say the small/large icon date/no date taskbar setting
is pretty much a YMMV thing...

One of my presumptions, was that for some reason, Microsoft wanted to encourage higher resolution screens. That means selecting a small
screen device, is less likely to be satisfying.

I was surprised that when I went looking for a cheap 10" Windows laptop
they were all low resolution. This one is 1280 x 800 (HD). Course I just searched on Amazon so my selection was perhaps limited.

I say surprised because my very cheap ($94US) 10" Amazon Fire tablet is
1920 x 1200 (FHD). The rest of my small screen Android/Chrome toys are
also FHD.

Right now, I would guess Win10 would look better on a given screen,
than Win11. And when Win12 comes out, who knows what horrors await
for rendering.

I picked this LT mainly because it came with W10 Pro. I really never did
like using W11 but that is of course a YMMV thing.

On some screens, you may see as many as three different rendering
methods at once on the screen. ClearType, Some GrayScale Thing, and
there are even some interfaces using fixed fonts from 1980. It makes
for a jarring experience when you see this. They cannot go backwards
-- they can only "go forward", whatever that means.

The idea is, we're supposed to buy 4K screens, just to have increased
pixel density.

For me it depends on the screen size. My biggest screen size is a 13" Chromebook. So even 2K might be much. FHD is about right since it looks
great (IMO) and it's a bit easier on the speed and battery in portable
devices. So if I have a choice with my smaller screens I'll likely stick
to FHD and avoid 4K. Hope I have a choice next time...

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On 13/05/2024 05:07, malone wrote:

On Mon-13-May-2024 1:25 pm, James Dodds wrote:

On 13/05/2024 02:17, malone wrote:

On Mon-13-May-2024 1:06 pm, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 5:18 PM, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 3:59 PM, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz
(malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in >>>>>>> the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years...

I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked / >>>>>>> unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only get >>>>>>> the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse
over
the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you
just
see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

I'm at W10 Pro 19045.4291 and I still have BOTH the date
(5/12/2024) and
time (5:10 PM) simultaneously on the taskbar (taskbar at normal
height).
Hovering adds the week day (Sunday) and date with the month in
written
form (Sunday, May 12, 2024). Oh oh, I see the laptop's updating right >>>>> now...  8-O

After the update I'm now at 19045.4355, same as the OP. And I still
show BOTH the date and time on the taskbar as before.

I just got this new laptop a few days ago so was unfamiliar with
the settings. One of the main reasons I got it was it came with W10
Pro. But it's been a few years since I messed with (and missed) W10.

Anyway, it turns out that in settings/taskbar there is a switch
that says "Use small taskbar buttons". When I switch it on the
taskbar halves in size and the date disappears showing only the time.

So John is right. The larger taskbar shows both date and time and
the smaller time only. Perhaps this laptop having a 10" screen was
why it's set at the double taskbar in settings, since the smaller
taskbar is pretty much unusable on it.

So to the OP all I can suggest is to check the settings/taskbar
setting for the taskbar size switch. I know you said you tried it
but...

I've rebooted, double checked the taskbar size - still can't get the
date back!!

I use Windows 11 but for Windows 10 try this article:

<https://softkeys.uk/blogs/blog/how-to-display-date-and-time-on-taskbar-windows-10>


Reap the steps line by line and do it on your machine so that it works.

I don't think that article is relevant to my version of Windows 10.
I've no "Show Clock" toggle and there's no "Date & Time" section in
the taskbar settings options

Have you got any 3rd party extensions installed? It looks like these 3rd
party extensions or add-ons might be blocking the display. Either
disable it/them or try creating a new user windows account to see if it
is a system defects or user account corruption. If it is a system then
you must have some 3rd party extensions because windows 10 has not
changed for sometime. It makes no difference whether you are on 20"
screen or 27" screen. Windows will scale accordingly.

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On 13/05/2024 17:06, AJL wrote:

On 5/13/2024 4:21 AM, John K.Eason wrote:

noemail@none.com (AJL) wrote:

in settings/taskbar there is a switch that says "Use small taskbar
 buttons". When I switch it on the taskbar halves in size and the
date disappears showing only the time.

The larger taskbar shows both date and time and the smaller time
only. Perhaps this laptop having a 10" screen was why it's set at
the double taskbar in settings, since the smaller taskbar is
pretty much unusable on it.

Ah ok. I've always used 21" displays for both my W7 and W10 PCs so am
using the small icon setting for the taskbar as others have
mentioned. Not sure I could cope with the reduction of usable screen
area on a laptop...

I've always been a non-serious hobbyist. In recent times I tried to get
along without Windows completely by using just my Android tablets and Chromebooks. It works for 99% of the stuff I do but not all (like having
a decent Usenet newsreader for example). I had actually given away all
my Windows stuff to grand/greatgrandkids. But I finally relented and got
this cheapie 10" W10 laptop to fill in that last 1%. Because of its poor screen resolution the small taskbar icons just don't work for me. Bottom line: That's a lot of words just to say the small/large icon date/no
date taskbar setting is pretty much a YMMV thing...

You can get 22", 24" or 27" external Monitor that can be hooked to your
10" laptop if it has the necessary ports, e.g. VGA or HDMI or display
port. You don't have to put up with poor resolutions. It can be harmful
to the eyes. Investing 100 bucks in a good display monitor is money well
spent IMO.

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On 5/13/2024 5:54 PM, James Dodds wrote:

On 13/05/2024 17:06, AJL wrote:

I finally relented and got this cheapie 10" W10 laptop. Because of
its poor screen resolution the small taskbar icons just don't work
for me.

You can get 22", 24" or 27" external Monitor

I could but I never have. I prefer the small screen for my online use
which is mostly recreational and done while reclined in my big easy
chair (like now). Course my small screen tablets/Chromebooks appear
quite large to me at reading glasses range.

that can be hooked to your 10" laptop if it has the necessary ports,
e.g. VGA or HDMI or display port.

This LT does have a mini-HDMI port but a large monitor probably wouldn't
fit very well on this recliner.

You don't have to put up with poor resolutions.

I don't. My other Android tablet toys and Chromebooks that I use are
over 220 PPI.

It can be harmful to the eyes.

Looking at any screen for an excessive amount of time can be bad for the
eyes.

Investing 100 bucks in a good display monitor is money well spent
IMO.

Not if I won't use it. Translation: As always YMMV...

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On 5/13/24 08:34 PM, James Dodds wrote:

On 13/05/2024 05:07, malone wrote:

On Mon-13-May-2024 1:25 pm, James Dodds wrote:

On 13/05/2024 02:17, malone wrote:

On Mon-13-May-2024 1:06 pm, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 5:18 PM, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 3:59 PM, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz
(malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in >>>>>>>> the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years... >>>>>>>>
I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked / >>>>>>>> unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only get >>>>>>>> the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse >>>>>>> over
the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you >>>>>>> just
see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

I'm at W10 Pro 19045.4291 and I still have BOTH the date
(5/12/2024) and
time (5:10 PM) simultaneously on the taskbar (taskbar at normal
height).
Hovering adds the week day (Sunday) and date with the month in
written
form (Sunday, May 12, 2024). Oh oh, I see the laptop's updating right >>>>>> now...  8-O

After the update I'm now at 19045.4355, same as the OP. And I still
show BOTH the date and time on the taskbar as before.

I just got this new laptop a few days ago so was unfamiliar with
the settings. One of the main reasons I got it was it came with W10
Pro. But it's been a few years since I messed with (and missed) W10. >>>>>
Anyway, it turns out that in settings/taskbar there is a switch
that says "Use small taskbar buttons". When I switch it on the
taskbar halves in size and the date disappears showing only the time. >>>>>
So John is right. The larger taskbar shows both date and time and
the smaller time only. Perhaps this laptop having a 10" screen was
why it's set at the double taskbar in settings, since the smaller
taskbar is pretty much unusable on it.

So to the OP all I can suggest is to check the settings/taskbar
setting for the taskbar size switch. I know you said you tried it
but...

I've rebooted, double checked the taskbar size - still can't get the
date back!!

I use Windows 11 but for Windows 10 try this article:

<https://softkeys.uk/blogs/blog/how-to-display-date-and-time-on-taskbar-windows-10>


Reap the steps line by line and do it on your machine so that it works.

I don't think that article is relevant to my version of Windows 10.
I've no "Show Clock" toggle and there's no "Date & Time" section in
the taskbar settings options

Have you got any 3rd party extensions installed? It looks like these 3rd party extensions or add-ons might be blocking the display. Either
disable it/them or try creating a new user windows account to see if it
is a system defects or user account corruption. If it is a system then
you must have some 3rd party extensions because windows 10 has not
changed for sometime. It makes no difference whether you are on 20"
screen or 27" screen. Windows will scale accordingly.

I use T-Clock. You can make the time/date anything you want and the font as large as you want.
https://github.com/MantisMountainMobile/TClock-Win10/releases
or any good Google search.
--
Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon 6.0.4 Kernel 5.15.0-107-generic
Al

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On Wed-15-May-2024 3:08 am, Big Al wrote:

On 5/13/24 08:34 PM, James Dodds wrote:

On 13/05/2024 05:07, malone wrote:

On Mon-13-May-2024 1:25 pm, James Dodds wrote:

On 13/05/2024 02:17, malone wrote:

On Mon-13-May-2024 1:06 pm, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 5:18 PM, AJL wrote:

On 5/12/2024 3:59 PM, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <v1rcpn$30ctp$1@dont-email.me>, malone@nospam.net.nz >>>>>>>> (malone) wrote:

*From:* malone <malone@nospam.net.nz>
*Date:* Mon, 13 May 2024 09:36:55 +1200

Since a recent Windows 10 update I appear to have lost the date in >>>>>>>>> the clock in the taskbar. I've had the date + time for years... >>>>>>>>>
I've done the usual things; changed the taskbar's height, locked / >>>>>>>>> unlocked the taskbar, disabled / enabled use small task bar
buttons, double checked the regional settings, but I still only >>>>>>>>> get
the time.
Anyone seen this or can suggest what the problem is?

Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, 19045.4355

The only time I've ever seen the date is when hovering the mouse >>>>>>>> over
the time on
the taskbar or setting the taskbar to double height. Normally you >>>>>>>> just
see the
24-hour time by default as you did with Windows 7.

I'm at W10 Pro 19045.4291 and I still have BOTH the date
(5/12/2024) and
time (5:10 PM) simultaneously on the taskbar (taskbar at normal
height).
Hovering adds the week day (Sunday) and date with the month in
written
form (Sunday, May 12, 2024). Oh oh, I see the laptop's updating
right
now...  8-O

After the update I'm now at 19045.4355, same as the OP. And I still >>>>>> show BOTH the date and time on the taskbar as before.

I just got this new laptop a few days ago so was unfamiliar with
the settings. One of the main reasons I got it was it came with W10 >>>>>> Pro. But it's been a few years since I messed with (and missed) W10. >>>>>>
Anyway, it turns out that in settings/taskbar there is a switch
that says "Use small taskbar buttons". When I switch it on the
taskbar halves in size and the date disappears showing only the time. >>>>>>
So John is right. The larger taskbar shows both date and time and
the smaller time only. Perhaps this laptop having a 10" screen was >>>>>> why it's set at the double taskbar in settings, since the smaller
taskbar is pretty much unusable on it.

So to the OP all I can suggest is to check the settings/taskbar
setting for the taskbar size switch. I know you said you tried it
but...

I've rebooted, double checked the taskbar size - still can't get the >>>>> date back!!

I use Windows 11 but for Windows 10 try this article:

<https://softkeys.uk/blogs/blog/how-to-display-date-and-time-on-taskbar-windows-10>


Reap the steps line by line and do it on your machine so that it works. >>>>

I don't think that article is relevant to my version of Windows 10.
I've no "Show Clock" toggle and there's no "Date & Time" section in
the taskbar settings options

Have you got any 3rd party extensions installed? It looks like these 3rd
party extensions or add-ons might be blocking the display. Either
disable it/them or try creating a new user windows account to see if it
is a system defects or user account corruption. If it is a system then
you must have some 3rd party extensions because windows 10 has not
changed for sometime. It makes no difference whether you are on 20"
screen or 27" screen. Windows will scale accordingly.

I use T-Clock.  You can make the time/date anything you want and the
font as large as you want. https://github.com/MantisMountainMobile/TClock-Win10/releases
or any good Google search.

Yes, I used that for years - but since Window 10 every few days I kept
getting an error about MSVCR100.dll missing which I was never able to
resolve because it wasn't missing...

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