AIUI, they no longer charge for upgrading win7 or 8 to win10. I should
do that on my spare computers. Is there any chance they will change
their mind or make it impossible?
AIUI, they no longer charge for upgrading win7 or 8 to win10. I should
do that on my spare computers. Is there any chance they will change
their mind or make it impossible?
On Fri, 03 May 2024 14:35:35 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
AIUI, they no longer charge for upgrading win7 or 8 to win10. I should
do that on my spare computers. Is there any chance they will change
their mind or make it impossible?
I'd look up Windows 10 LTSC
It's 10 with all the crap and telemetry taken out. Consequently it
runs nice and fast. OK, you have to go out of your way to re-enstate >Microsoft Store if you need it but most of my use case is standalone
freeware etc.
And LTSC got a nice long life span.
On Fri, 03 May 2024 14:35:35 -0400, micky wrote:
AIUI, they no longer charge for upgrading win7 or 8 to win10. I should
do that on my spare computers. Is there any chance they will change
their mind or make it impossible?
According to this post, the days of free upgrades from Win7/8 are over.
<https://alt.windows7.general.narkive.com/MRQLe6Sh/microsoft-says-the-days-of-free-windows-7-to-10-or-11-updates-are-over>
REF: <https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-says-the-days-of-free-windows-7-to-10-or-11-updates-are-over>
REF: <https://devicepartner.microsoft.com/en-us/communications/comm-windows-ends-installation-path-for-free-windows-7-8-upgrade>
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 04 May 2024 08:39:39 +1200, Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 03 May 2024 14:35:35 -0400, micky wrote:
AIUI, they no longer charge for upgrading win7 or 8 to win10. I should
do that on my spare computers. Is there any chance they will change
their mind or make it impossible?
According to this post, the days of free upgrades from Win7/8 are over.
<https://alt.windows7.general.narkive.com/MRQLe6Sh/microsoft-says-the-days-of-free-windows-7-to-10-or-11-updates-are-over>
REF: <https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-says-the-days-of-free-windows-7-to-10-or-11-updates-are-over>
REF: <https://devicepartner.microsoft.com/en-us/communications/comm-windows-ends-installation-path-for-free-windows-7-8-upgrade>
That will teach me to dawdle.
At least this way they can remain spares. Or I can follow Graham's
advice.
According to this post, the days of free upgrades from Win7/8 are over.
That will teach me to dawdle.
At least this way they can remain spares. Or I can follow Graham's
advice.
You did not know this ?
That's kinda strategic info for the older computers.
 So, long story short, anyone who still wants to go from 7/8 toAs usual, you are talking complete and utter nonsense. It is not only
10 should be able to do it with an older ISO. You just copy your
CD key on paper and use that when it asks for it. And of course,
it's best to unplug ethernet, though I don't have any reason
to think that would be a problem. But it might complicate matters,
with Win10 setup going out for updates.
On 04/05/2024 02:01, Newyana2 wrote:
As usual, you are talking complete and utter nonsense. It is not only
 So, long story short, anyone who still wants to go from 7/8 to
10 should be able to do it with an older ISO. You just copy your
CD key on paper and use that when it asks for it. And of course,
it's best to unplug ethernet, though I don't have any reason
to think that would be a problem. But it might complicate matters,
with Win10 setup going out for updates.
about installing Windows. It is also about giving consideration to
activation and Microsoft will NOT activate a product that has no valid
serial number. Windows 7 or Windows 8 serial numbers will not be
accepted at the time of activation. It might work to install Windows 10
or 11 but these days you don't need a serial number to install and try
the product for 30 days anyway. Serial number is required for activation
only so that users can customize their system. Without activation users
can't customize anything, let alone upgrade from 10 to 11 without losing data.
The days of free upgrades are long gone. Microsoft has already changed
its mind while Mickey, the OP, was looking for hookers in Guatemala.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 03 May 2024 22:27:52 +0100, 0rby <ossnorthwest@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 03 May 2024 14:35:35 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
AIUI, they no longer charge for upgrading win7 or 8 to win10. I should
do that on my spare computers. Is there any chance they will change
their mind or make it impossible?
I'd look up Windows 10 LTSC
Someone mentioned that recently before, maybe you, but a link to wikip earlier in the thread had a table that showed the LTSC was only possible
with the enterprise edition. My girlfriend dumped me, she said, because
I was not enterprising.
It's 10 with all the crap and telemetry taken out. Consequently it
runs nice and fast. OK, you have to go out of your way to re-enstate
Microsoft Store if you need it but most of my use case is standalone
freeware etc.
And LTSC got a nice long life span.
micky wrote:
AIUI, they no longer charge for upgrading win7 or 8 to win10. I should
do that on my spare computers. Is there any chance they will change
their mind or make it impossible?
If you have Win 7 keep it - I have found it much more trustworthy than
Win 10.
If you Win 8 then upgrade it, provided it has enough RAM and a SSD.
Otherwise throw it away.
Administrator Terminal:
slmgr /dlv
On 03/05/2024 19:58, Graham J wrote:
micky wrote:
AIUI, they no longer charge for upgrading win7 or 8 to win10. I should >>> do that on my spare computers. Is there any chance they will change
their mind or make it impossible?
If you have Win 7 keep it - I have found it much more trustworthy than Win 10.
If you Win 8 then upgrade it, provided it has enough RAM and a SSD. Otherwise throw it away.
That's your opinion but not mine.
My main OS is Windows 8 but I can also boot into Windows 10 & Windows 11.
BTW (pedant mode) it's 'AN', not 'a', SSD because S sounds like it starts with a vowel (ess).
On 5/4/2024 1:22 AM, Paul wrote:
Administrator Terminal:
slmgr /dlv
This is interesting. It says it's not activated. Yet it accepted
the Win7 CD key during install, it performed the install (22H2 just
refused) and there have been no restrictions on "personalization".
So, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? I don't know.
It invites me to go to the Windows Store to look into the issue
further. Fat chance of that.
Meanwhile, this "Simon" seems to be a first offical member of
my fan club, following me around. Are we just all becoming
cranky old men... is this perhaps a regular who's using aliases?
When I first discovered Reddit I was annoyed by the up/down
voting and blocking, but it has its uses. Some people simply don't
want to be adults.
That is a weird state to be in. The Personalization should
be denying your ability to change the desktop background.
(Even though the File Explorer Context Menu has an option
to make a selected image into you background.) Normally
Personalization issues are an overt symptom you're not in the
licensed state.
I'm sure if you visit the Windows Store, it will "offer you
a Windows license at a nice (full) price". See what you are missing ?
Such a gracious offer. A full price, on an OS good for another year.
Then if you wanted to run Windows 11, it would tell you "you don't
have a POPCNT instruction, you don't have SSE 4.2, and your socks
are the wrong color". Oh, I know, your keyboard doesn't have a
CoPilot symbol on it.
micky wrote:
AIUI, they no longer charge for upgrading win7 or 8 to win10. I should
do that on my spare computers. Is there any chance they will change
their mind or make it impossible?
If you have Win 7 keep it - I have found it much more trustworthy than
Win 10.
If you Win 8 then upgrade it, provided it has enough RAM and a SSD.
Otherwise throw it away.
Win8 is perfectly acceptable. Especially if they break the later OSes :-)
Paul
On 5/3/24 13:58, Graham J wrote:
micky wrote:
AIUI, they no longer charge for upgrading win7 or 8 to win10. I should >>> do that on my spare computers. Is there any chance they will change
their mind or make it impossible?
If you have Win 7 keep it - I have found it much more trustworthy than Win 10.
If you Win 8 then upgrade it, provided it has enough RAM and a SSD. Otherwise throw it away.
or reinstall Win 7, or Linux.
On 5/4/24 09:45, Paul wrote:
[snip]
Win8 is perfectly acceptable. Especially if they break the later OSes :-)
   Paul
The first time I saw Win8, the first thing I thought of was "I DON'T want an iPhone" (considering the tiles instead of the desktop Windows has had since 95).
I'll keep experimenting. I have to admit that I derive a
kind of perverse pleasure from all of this kind of fiddling. And
I mostly only use it to stream movies. So if it reverts to
a Windows background that's not a big deal. But I am curious
about where it stands now. If I had never let it call home to
activate, would 20H2 ever have even had the concept that
a Win7 key wasn't valid for an upgrade?
On 5/4/2024 11:17 AM, Newyana2 wrote:
I'll keep experimenting. I have to admit that I derive a
kind of perverse pleasure from all of this kind of fiddling. And
I mostly only use it to stream movies. So if it reverts to
a Windows background that's not a big deal. But I am curious
about where it stands now. If I had never let it call home to
activate, would 20H2 ever have even had the concept that
a Win7 key wasn't valid for an upgrade?
So you're saying it has never seen the network ?
Yes, that would be a weird state. I could
see it being confused. Then five seconds after
you connect the network cable, the machine
will have it all figured out.
On 5/3/2024 10:15 PM, Simon GAHHH Creator wrote:
On 04/05/2024 02:01, Newyana2 wrote:
As usual, you are talking complete and utter nonsense. It is not only
 So, long story short, anyone who still wants to go from 7/8 to
10 should be able to do it with an older ISO. You just copy your
CD key on paper and use that when it asks for it. And of course,
it's best to unplug ethernet, though I don't have any reason
to think that would be a problem. But it might complicate matters,
with Win10 setup going out for updates.
about installing Windows. It is also about giving consideration to
activation and Microsoft will NOT activate a product that has no valid
serial number. Windows 7 or Windows 8 serial numbers will not be
accepted at the time of activation. It might work to install Windows 10
or 11 but these days you don't need a serial number to install and try
the product for 30 days anyway. Serial number is required for activation
only so that users can customize their system. Without activation users
can't customize anything, let alone upgrade from 10 to 11 without losing
data.
The days of free upgrades are long gone. Microsoft has already changed
its mind while Mickey, the OP, was looking for hookers in Guatemala.
Administrator Terminal:
slmgr /dlv
License Status : Licensed <=== This indicates whether a "trick" is working
Paul
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 361 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 123:31:22 |
| Calls: | 7,716 |
| Files: | 12,861 |
| Messages: | 5,727,956 |