• Snipping overly long posts

    From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 21 17:50:19 2024
    Is there any available add-on to do this? I notice that some people
    regularly have <snipped> in their offerings, which suggests to me software-snipped; at least when you compare them to my snippings, which
    are crude, bad PR and leave me feeling guilty and antisocial.

    Ed

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Thu Mar 21 18:26:05 2024
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Is there any available add-on to do this? I notice that some people
    regularly have <snipped> in their offerings, which suggests to me software-snipped; at least when you compare them to my snippings, which
    are crude, bad PR and leave me feeling guilty and antisocial.

    I'm sure that most just use their editor, perhaps with some macro
    or/and key-shorcut function.

    I just use '[...]' in my editor (vim), J. P. Gilliver over in alt.windows7.general uses '[]'.

    Perhaps Betterbird can use something like Autohotkey (I hope I got the
    name right) to generate the snipmarks.

    Doing the actual snipping is a manual operation, but a good editor
    makes that easy. I don't know if Betterbird can use another, custom,
    editor other than the built-in 'composer'.

    No snipmarks in *this* post! :-)

    BTW, I commend you for your efforts! Especially this group could do
    with better 'snippers'/snipping as there are many ridiculously long
    responses without any snipping, often only adding relatively little new
    text, sometimes even just one or two lines.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Thu Mar 21 14:35:07 2024
    On 3/21/2024 12:50 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Is there any available add-on to do this? I notice that some people
    regularly have <snipped> in their offerings, which suggests to me software-snipped; at least when you compare them to my snippings, which
    are crude, bad PR and leave me feeling guilty and antisocial.

    Ed

    Have you tried running your mouse over and highlighting the portion of a
    post you wish to respond to? Doing so and hitting followup opens a
    response with only the portion you have highlighted in it.

    --
    Stand With Israel!

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Thu Mar 21 15:11:13 2024
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

    Is there any available add-on to do this? I notice that some people
    regularly have <snipped> in their offerings, which suggests to me software-snipped; ...

    Not for me. *I* trim the quoted content to provide context for my
    reply. Unless the parent article is short, not all of it is needed in a
    reply. Trimming is part of netiquette, not a requirement. In fact,
    quoting the parent article isn't even a requirement, just to provide
    context for a reply rather than making someone go back to [re]read the
    parent article. I've had some posters repeatedly whine about me not
    quoting their entire article as though everything they say is gospel, so
    I don't quote them at all in my reply to them.

    Not sure how any software will know just what *you* consider relevant
    for context in your reply. It's a rather personal choice what you keep,
    and what you trim. For example, the part I trimmed was about your
    feelings of your expertise or choices rather than about your inquiry.

    When you snip, there should be some indication of it. I use ellipsis.
    Some posters use brackets. Just try not to make a mess that is
    difficult to follow.

    Signatures from parent articles should never be included in replies.
    Normally the client will snip the parent sig when composing a reply.

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 21 21:36:38 2024
    Ed,

    I notice that some people regularly have <snipped> in their offerings,
    which suggests to me software-snipped;

    No, its all manually done. Its just way of the responder to say "I mean the whole block, off of which I only quoted the first few lines".

    Is there any available add-on to do this?

    Well, I could imagine that such an add-on could remove all but the first X lines of what you quoted, but as you where already selecting what you wanted
    to quote ... :-)

    And maybe sometimes you really wanted that big quote (and sometimes its needed).

    at least when you compare them to my snippings, which are crude, bad PR
    and leave me feeling guilty and antisocial

    If you would *really* be a bad quoter than people would have told you by
    now. If/as they have not ... well, it probably means you're not doing too badly. :-)


    You know what I dislike ? Those people who "quote" the whole previous
    message just to add a line or two at the top or bottom. Blergh.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Thu Mar 21 23:55:05 2024
    On 3/21/2024 1:50 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Is there any available add-on to ...

    "He was quick on the draw, and it's high noon.
    All that's left, is half a tune."

    [Theme music from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly"]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9EZGHcu3E8

    Of course you edit the things manually.

    The personal touch, in all things...

    Paul

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  • From Ammammata@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg used his keyboard to on Fri Mar 22 08:47:11 2024
    Frank Slootweg used his keyboard to write :
    I just use '[...]' in my editor (vim), J. P. Gilliver over in alt.windows7.general uses '[]'.

    I trim manually, often inserting [agatino] when I remove several lines


    ref. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agatino_Cuttone


    Note that Cuttone is a mix of English (cut) and italian suffix (-one)
    that stands for "big" :-)

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 22 10:40:21 2024
    In article <MPG.40676e1e16c741b1989abd@news.eternal-september.org>, Philip Herlihy wrote...

    In article <uti25a$2d3q6$1@dont-email.me>, sticks wrote...
    Doing so and hitting followup opens a
    response with only the portion you have highlighted in it.



    It works! (Gravity)

    That was actually a rather inexpert bit of quoting. To clarify:

    In my client (Gravity), if you select a passage and then hit "Follow Up" the client quotes only what was highlighted. Which is neat!

    --

    Phil, London

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 22 10:30:22 2024
    In article <uti25a$2d3q6$1@dont-email.me>, sticks wrote...
    Doing so and hitting followup opens a
    response with only the portion you have highlighted in it.



    It works! (Gravity)

    --

    Phil, London

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  • From Jim the Geordie@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 22 15:17:53 2024
    In article <MPG.4067706fc401b541989abe@news.eternal-september.org>, PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid says...
    In my client (Gravity), if you select a passage and then hit "Follow Up" the client quotes only what was highlighted. Which is neat!


    So it does :o)

    --
    Jim the Geordie

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to this@ddress.is.invalid on Fri Mar 22 16:14:14 2024
    In message <uti1k4.1s0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes
    <snip - manually added>
    BTW, I commend you for your efforts! Especially this group could do
    with better 'snippers'/snipping as there are many ridiculously long
    responses without any snipping, often only adding relatively little new
    text, sometimes even just one or two lines.

    Hear, hear!
    --
    John Hall
    "Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
    from coughing."
    Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

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  • From John@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 22 17:53:46 2024
    On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 17:50:19 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
    wrote:

    Is there any available add-on to do this? I notice that some people
    regularly have <snipped> in their offerings, which suggests to me >software-snipped; at least when you compare them to my snippings, which
    are crude, bad PR and leave me feeling guilty and antisocial.

    I do it with things called "fingers" that tap on something called a
    "keyboard" assisted by a "mouse" and loads of layers of software.

    It seems to work for me.

    I've never seen an actual tool for the job.

    I simply highlight the bits I'm removing from the reply I'm sending,
    deleted them, add "<<snipped>>" in case the next reader didn't read
    the original message and type on from there.

    I thought that was how *everyone* did it?

    J.


    Ed

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  • From John@21:1/5 to john_nospam@jhall.co.uk on Fri Mar 22 17:57:18 2024
    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 16:14:14 +0000, John Hall
    <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <uti1k4.1s0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg ><this@ddress.is.invalid> writes
    <snip - manually added>
    BTW, I commend you for your efforts! Especially this group could do
    with better 'snippers'/snipping as there are many ridiculously long >>responses without any snipping, often only adding relatively little new >>text, sometimes even just one or two lines.

    Then some eejit does the unimaginable and top-posts just to confuse
    things a bit more.


    Hear, hear!

    "Where ware?"

    "They're there."

    J.

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  • From John@21:1/5 to PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid on Fri Mar 22 17:58:36 2024
    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 10:40:21 -0000, Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> wrote:

    In article <MPG.40676e1e16c741b1989abd@news.eternal-september.org>, Philip >Herlihy wrote...

    In article <uti25a$2d3q6$1@dont-email.me>, sticks wrote...
    Doing so and hitting followup opens a
    response with only the portion you have highlighted in it.



    It works! (Gravity)

    That was actually a rather inexpert bit of quoting. To clarify:

    In my client (Gravity), if you select a passage and then hit "Follow Up" the >client quotes only what was highlighted. Which is neat!


    Agent does this, too.

    J.

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  • From John@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 22 18:00:16 2024
    On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 21:36:38 +0100, "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid>
    wrote:

    Ed,

    I notice that some people regularly have <snipped> in their offerings,
    which suggests to me software-snipped;

    No, its all manually done. Its just way of the responder to say "I mean the >whole block, off of which I only quoted the first few lines".

    Is there any available add-on to do this?

    Well, I could imagine that such an add-on could remove all but the first X >lines of what you quoted, but as you where already selecting what you wanted >to quote ... :-)

    And maybe sometimes you really wanted that big quote (and sometimes its >needed).

    at least when you compare them to my snippings, which are crude, bad PR
    and leave me feeling guilty and antisocial

    If you would *really* be a bad quoter than people would have told you by
    now. If/as they have not ... well, it probably means you're not doing too >badly. :-)


    You know what I dislike ? Those people who "quote" the whole previous >message just to add a line or two at the top or bottom. Blergh.

    Yeah, buggers.

    Almost as bad as top-posters.

    J.


    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From Big Al@21:1/5 to John on Fri Mar 22 14:56:23 2024
    On 3/22/24 01:53 PM, John wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 17:50:19 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
    wrote:

    Is there any available add-on to do this? I notice that some people
    regularly have <snipped> in their offerings, which suggests to me
    software-snipped; at least when you compare them to my snippings, which
    are crude, bad PR and leave me feeling guilty and antisocial.

    I do it with things called "fingers" that tap on something called a "keyboard" assisted by a "mouse" and loads of layers of software.

    It seems to work for me.

    I've never seen an actual tool for the job.

    I simply highlight the bits I'm removing from the reply I'm sending, deleted them, add "<<snipped>>" in case the next reader didn't read
    the original message and type on from there.

    I thought that was how *everyone* did it?

    J.


    Ed
    Me too. I thought it was understood what <snip> meant.
    --
    Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon 6.0.4 Kernel 6.5.0-26-generic
    Al

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  • From John@21:1/5 to Big Al on Fri Mar 22 20:30:53 2024
    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 14:56:23 -0400, Big Al <alan@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 3/22/24 01:53 PM, John wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 17:50:19 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
    wrote:

    Is there any available add-on to do this? I notice that some people
    regularly have <snipped> in their offerings, which suggests to me
    software-snipped; at least when you compare them to my snippings, which
    are crude, bad PR and leave me feeling guilty and antisocial.

    I do it with things called "fingers" that tap on something called a
    "keyboard" assisted by a "mouse" and loads of layers of software.

    It seems to work for me.

    I've never seen an actual tool for the job.

    I simply highlight the bits I'm removing from the reply I'm sending,
    deleted them, add "<<snipped>>" in case the next reader didn't read
    the original message and type on from there.

    I thought that was how *everyone* did it?

    J.


    Ed
    Me too. I thought it was understood what <snip> meant.

    Well, to be a little fair to non-UKlanders and other
    non-English-speakers, "snip" can mean "to say something curtly, rudely
    or nastily" or something like that.

    It's the verb "snippy" comes from. Or maybe it's the other way
    around. In English, either is possible.

    There is also "snipe", which is somewhat different.
    J.

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to Philip Herlihy on Fri Mar 22 19:15:33 2024
    On 3/22/24 05:40, Philip Herlihy wrote:
    In my client (Gravity), if you select a passage and then hit "Follow Up" the client quotes only what was highlighted. Which is neat!

    It works in Thunderbird too, and can make responding to a particular
    thing easier. You don't have to try to find the thing again among a
    bunch of other stuff (replying to part of a long post).

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler."

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 22 19:18:51 2024
    [snip]

    You know what I dislike ? Those people who "quote" the whole previous message just to add a line or two at the top or bottom. Blergh.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    Yes. Its worse when they put those lines at the bottom. Then you have to
    scroll through multiple screens of stuff you've already read to find out
    if there's ANYTHING new in this post.

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler."

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 22 19:20:58 2024
    [snip]

    Almost as bad as top-posters.

    I don't top-post, although I do see much worse. Especially posting at
    the bottom of a really long quote you failed to snip.

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler."

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 08:12:31 2024
    Mark,

    Almost as bad as top-posters.

    I don't top-post, although I do see much worse. Especially posting
    at the bottom of a really long quote you failed to snip.

    Worse, it wasn't /quite/ at the bottom. He left my sign-off dangling below
    it. You need a special kind of determination for that.

    ... and as such I assumed he just wanted to joke around.

    Though I recently saw someone put his two sentences of reply smack in the middle of the whole post.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 08:20:48 2024
    John,

    Me too. I thought it was understood what <snip> meant.

    Well, to be a little fair to non-UKlanders and other
    non-English-speakers, "snip" can mean "to say something curtly,
    rudely or nastily" or something like that.

    I know "to snip" from garden work. Where its used in a quite similar
    fashion: to remove unwanted parts.

    And the veterinarian usage, where the male dogs "get snipped" (vasectomy).

    And now I think of it, I'm certain I've heard the same in connection to
    human males ...

    FYI, I'm not an UK-ian either. <whistle>

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 07:46:59 2024
    Mark,

    Yes. Its worse when they put those lines at the bottom. Then you have to scroll through multiple screens of stuff you've already read to find out
    if there's ANYTHING new in this post.

    Yup. :-(

    When I tried to explain that to a bottom poster he could not see the
    problem. So, his (at first glance) "duplicate of the previous" posts got ignored. :-)

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 11:12:57 2024
    wasbit,

    Though I recently saw someone put his two sentences of reply smack in
    the middle of the whole post.

    Which I sometimes do to reply to a specific point.

    In that case I remove everything under it, as well as everything above it
    that is not directly related to the specific point.

    However I always try to put a line space above & below so it shows
    more easily.

    Yes, thats another thing I've recently noticed. The reply placed smack
    against the quote, making it look as if its a single paragraph - with only
    the quote prefixes to figure out what is what. :-(

    Maybeishouldthanjustreplywithoutspacesandseehowtheylikethat. :-)

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to R.Wieser on Sat Mar 23 09:53:15 2024
    On 23/03/2024 07:12, R.Wieser wrote:
    Though I recently saw someone put his two sentences of reply smack in the middle of the whole post.

    Which I sometimes do to reply to a specific point.
    However I always try to put a line space above & below so it shows more
    easily.


    --
    Regards
    wasbit

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to sticks on Sat Mar 23 09:54:21 2024
    On 21/03/2024 19:35, sticks wrote:
    Have you tried running your mouse over and highlighting the portion of a
    post you wish to respond to?  Doing so and hitting followup opens a
    response with only the portion you have highlighted in it.

    Thanks. Nice tip.


    --
    Regards
    wasbit

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to not.email@all.invalid on Sat Mar 23 10:04:47 2024
    In message <KfpLN.556745$PuZ9.307129@fx11.iad>, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> writes
    [snip]

    I don't top-post, although I do see much worse. Especially posting at
    the bottom of a really long quote you failed to snip.

    Agreed.
    --
    John Hall
    "Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
    from coughing."
    Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 11:20:06 2024
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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Mark Lloyd on Sat Mar 23 13:03:11 2024
    Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
    [snip]

    Almost as bad as top-posters.

    I don't top-post, although I do see much worse. Especially posting at
    the bottom of a really long quote you failed to snip.

    Yes, it's quite ironic, in a sad way, that it's also happening, by
    multiple posters, in this very thread. Boggles the mind.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Sat Mar 23 10:12:22 2024
    On 3/23/2024 6:20 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    wasbit wrote:
    On 21/03/2024 19:35, sticks wrote:
    Have you tried running your mouse over and highlighting the portion
    of a post you wish to respond to?  Doing so and hitting followup
    opens a response with only the portion you have highlighted in it.

    Thanks. Nice tip.



    Excellent tip.
    I notice that it also adds a starter line for you; <person's name> wrote.

    In case you haven't discovered it yet, I'll add this.
    One of the things people might not like about doing this is it only adds
    the last level of attribution in the quoted text. This is fine if you
    only are responding to one person, or don't feel it is necessary to name everyone involved in the post. Some people don't like that. However,
    you can add the additional posters by also holding the control key, (on
    TBird at least) and swiping left to right highlighting the additional
    posters. Just keep control down until you have everything you want highlighted, then click followup. You can also highlight multiple areas
    of a post, though you have to be careful as it can sometimes look a
    little off in location on the followup post. Experiment a little and
    you'll see what I mean.


    --
    Stand With Israel!

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 07:58:11 2024
    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:18:51 -0500, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
    wrote:

    [snip]

    You know what I dislike ? Those people who "quote" the whole previous
    message just to add a line or two at the top or bottom. Blergh.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    Yes. Its worse when they put those lines at the bottom. Then you have to

    No, you don't "have to." You can just ignore such a post, as I do.


    scroll through multiple screens of stuff you've already read to find out
    if there's ANYTHING new in this post.

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 17:44:31 2024
    Ken

    |On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:18:51 -0500, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
    |wrote:
    |
    [snip]

    You know what I dislike ? Those people who "quote" the whole previous
    message just to add a line or two at the top or bottom. Blergh.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    Yes. Its worse when they put those lines at the bottom. Then you have to
    |
    |No, you don't "have to." You can just ignore such a post, as I do.
    |
    |
    scroll through multiple screens of stuff you've already read to find out
    if there's ANYTHING new in this post.

    Thank you for providing this prime example to how /not/ to quote.

    ... in a thread talking about how to do it right.


    As for your reply ? How would the Mark know its "such a post" if he didn't open and checked it for new content ? At which time any attempt to "just ignore it" would ofcourse be 'very hard' (understatement) to do.

    And for the record : we are talking about /having to deal/ with posts containing badly quoted material - before deciding to actually read them.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Sat Mar 23 19:23:59 2024
    On 3/23/2024 2:01 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 3/23/2024 6:20 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Excellent tip.
    I notice that it also adds a starter line for you; <person's name>
    wrote.

    In case you haven't discovered it yet, I'll add this.
    One of the things people might not like about doing this is it only
    adds the last level of attribution in the quoted text.  This is fine
    if you only are responding to one person, or don't feel it is
    necessary to name everyone involved in the post.  Some people don't
    like that.  However, you can add the additional posters by also
    holding the control key, (on TBird at least) and swiping left to right
    highlighting the additional posters.  Just keep control down until you
    have everything you want highlighted, then click followup.  You can
    also highlight multiple areas of a post, though you have to be careful
    as it can sometimes look a little off in location on the followup
    post.  Experiment a little and you'll see what I mean.



    How do you carry out "swiping left to right highlighting the additional posters"?

    So in this post, I first highlighted from "Excellent tip." down to your question. It included material from sticks, and then Ed above that, as
    well as your question. I then held down the control key and swiped
    those two attribution lines. Everything I had highlighted was included
    in the followup, after it first inserted the top attribution line naming
    you.

    --
    Stand With Israel!

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Sun Mar 24 11:19:02 2024
    On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 17:50:19 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Is there any available add-on to do this? I notice that some people
    regularly have <snipped> in their offerings, which suggests to me software-snipped; at least when you compare them to my snippings, which
    are crude, bad PR and leave me feeling guilty and antisocial.

    Select text > Follow-up and Agent snips all text but the selection.

    --
    s|b

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 24 11:21:29 2024
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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Sun Mar 24 10:09:15 2024
    On 3/24/2024 6:21 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 3/23/2024 2:01 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 3/23/2024 6:20 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Excellent tip.
    I notice that it also adds a starter line for you; <person's name>
    wrote.

    In case you haven't discovered it yet, I'll add this.
    One of the things people might not like about doing this is it only
    adds the last level of attribution in the quoted text.  This is fine
    if you only are responding to one person, or don't feel it is
    necessary to name everyone involved in the post.  Some people don't
    like that.  However, you can add the additional posters by also
    holding the control key, (on TBird at least) and swiping left to
    right highlighting the additional posters.  Just keep control down
    until you have everything you want highlighted, then click followup.
    You can also highlight multiple areas of a post, though you have to
    be careful as it can sometimes look a little off in location on the
    followup post.  Experiment a little and you'll see what I mean.



    How do you carry out "swiping left to right highlighting the
    additional posters"?

    So in this post, I first highlighted from "Excellent tip." down to
    your question.  It included material from sticks, and then Ed above
    that, as well as your question.  I then held down the control key and
    swiped those two attribution lines.  Everything I had highlighted was
    included in the followup, after it first inserted the top attribution
    line naming you.


    Cool! I love it.
    I feel there's probably even more hidden in that lost city of options.
    You tell me to experiment, but you've probably already been there.
    Are there other useful ploys?

    Ed


    Not really. It was really a suggestion to be cautious and try it out a
    little without actually sending. You'll probably notice it has a little difficulty sometimes getting proper quote levels, and sometimes
    inserting what should be new lines at the end of others.

    FWIW, I mostly followup with an entire article and then trim, but on
    very large posts I find this method easier if I only want to quote the
    very end of the article. I don't use it all the time.


    --
    Stand With Israel!

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sun Mar 24 14:58:41 2024
    On 3/23/24 09:58, Ken Blake wrote:

    [snip]

    Yes. Its worse when they put those lines at the bottom. Then you have to

    No, you don't "have to." You can just ignore such a post, as I do.

    Its "have to" only if you really want to read it. I usually decide its
    not that worthwhile.

    scroll through multiple screens of stuff you've already read to find out
    if there's ANYTHING new in this post.

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "The wind is like the air, only pushier."

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to R.Wieser on Sun Mar 24 14:55:24 2024
    On 3/23/24 05:12, R.Wieser wrote:

    [snip]

    However I always try to put a line space above & below so it shows
    more easily.

    Yes, thats another thing I've recently noticed. The reply placed smack against the quote, making it look as if its a single paragraph - with only the quote prefixes to figure out what is what. :-(


    Also, if you snip part of a line, you may need to re-create the quote
    prefix to make it right.

    Maybeishouldthanjustreplywithoutspacesandseehowtheylikethat. :-)

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "The wind is like the air, only pushier."

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