• Re: WinRE Partition - KB 5034441

    From knuttle@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 20 19:29:24 2024
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 20 20:34:59 2024
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From sticks@21:1/5 to knuttle on Wed Mar 20 19:18:01 2024
    On 3/20/2024 6:29 PM, knuttle wrote:
    On 03/20/2024 4:22 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

    Just an fyi.

    The issues encountered with KB5034441 installing requiring
    end-users(Consumer, Enterprise, SMB, Edu, Gov etc.) manual or a script:
      => Disable WinRE, shrink C, enlarge WinRE partition, enable WinRE
    methods are and will remain the norm.

    Support tickets in the Consumer and Enterprise community indicate that
    Microsoft's not planning to do anything other than refer you to
    related KB articles and available instructions and script.
    i.e. they are not planning on automating the fix

    For reference purposes...
    KB5034441 - Windows Recovery Environment update for Windows 10,
    version 21H2 and 22H2: January 9, 2024
    <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5034441-windows-recovery-environment-update-for-windows-10-version-21h2-and-22h2-january-9-2024-62c04204-aaa5-4fee-a02a-2fdea17075a8>

    KB5028997 -  Instructions to manually resize your partition to install
    the WinRE update
    <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5028997-instructions-to-manually-resize-your-partition-to-install-the-winre-update-400faa27-9343-461c-ada9-24c8229763bf>

    Extending the WinRE partition
    <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/add-update-to-winre?view=windows-11#extend-the-windows-re-partition>

    Note: While Bitlocker issues may come into play in updating with
    KB5034441, the end result whether Bitlocker is in-play/not-in-play,
    the above linked articles and  manual or script methods when KB5034441
    fails to install will continue to be the only MSFT recommended
    information and solution(s).

    Could MSFT have dones a better job? Absolutely
    Are they going to fix or improve upon the issue encountered in Win10
    22H2/21H2?  Apparently, not.




    This update was offered two days ago but failed to install on either of
    my computers.   The recover petition on a 1TB disk was significantly
    larger that they said it should be expanded to.  I tried several time
    and it would not go.

    Tonight when I read this post, I checked if there were any updates to
    the laptop, thinking it would still be offered.   There were no updates
    to Widows 10 22H2 19045.4170.

    Did you check the installed updates option and see if it is listed as a
    failed update?
    From experience, if it has failed, there is no sense continuing to try
    and install it. You must follow the steps above to get it done.


    I have not tried the desktop tonight.   It has a 2TB drive.

    --
    Stand With Israel!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Smith@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 4 12:11:42 2024
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 20:07:49 -0700, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    knuttle wrote on 3/20/24 4:29 PM:
    On 03/20/2024 4:22 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

    Just an fyi.

    The issues encountered with KB5034441 installing requiring
    end-users(Consumer, Enterprise, SMB, Edu, Gov etc.) manual or a script:
    Disable WinRE, shrink C, enlarge WinRE partition, enable WinRE
    methods are and will remain the norm.

    Support tickets in the Consumer and Enterprise community indicate that
    Microsoft's not planning to do anything other than refer you to related
    KB articles and available instructions and script.
    i.e. they are not planning on automating the fix

    For reference purposes...
    KB5034441 - Windows Recovery Environment update for Windows 10, version
    21H2 and 22H2: January 9, 2024
    <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5034441-windows-recovery-environment-update-for-windows-10-version-21h2-and-22h2-january-9-2024-62c04204-aaa5-4fee-a02a-2fdea17075a8>


    KB5028997 -  Instructions to manually resize your partition to install
    the WinRE update
    <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5028997-instructions-to-manually-resize-your-partition-to-install-the-winre-update-400faa27-9343-461c-ada9-24c8229763bf>


    Extending the WinRE partition
    <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/add-update-to-winre?view=windows-11#extend-the-windows-re-partition>


    Note: While Bitlocker issues may come into play in updating with
    KB5034441, the end result whether Bitlocker is in-play/not-in-play, the
    above linked articles and  manual or script methods when KB5034441
    fails to install will continue to be the only MSFT recommended
    information and solution(s).

    Could MSFT have dones a better job? Absolutely
    Are they going to fix or improve upon the issue encountered in Win10
    22H2/21H2?  Apparently, not.




    This update was offered two days ago but failed to install on either of
    my computers.   The recover petition on a 1TB disk was significantly
    larger that they said it should be expanded to.  I tried several time and
    it would not go.

    Tonight when I read this post, I checked if there were any updates to the
    laptop, thinking it would still be offered.   There were no updates to
    Widows 10 22H2 19045.4170.

    I have not tried the desktop tonight.   It has a 2TB drive.
    Not the size of the recovery partition, but the **free space**

    Powershell admin session
    reagentc /info

    - will tell you the harddisk# and partition# of your WinRE partition
    - it needs to be located after the o/s partition

    Powershell admin session
    Get-Volume

    ..will tell you the free space of the WinRE partition.

    i.e. doesn't matter the size of the recovery partition or the size of the >SSD/HDD the o/s resides. What matters is the free space of the WinRE >partition and its location.

    Report what you find. Nothing else is important at this stage.

    I run a triple-boot of XP, Win7 and Win10. I cloned these partitions
    onto an SSD, where they run ok. (though I don't enter XP except when
    the boot enters it automatically to access its bcd for booting the
    other two)

    Win10 on the hard drive performed K5028997 just fine, I get the
    ox80070643 error on the SSD version of Win10. Both Win10 partitions
    show 180GB freespace after the partition. So it ain't that.

    I am inclined to reclone that harddriveWin10 back up again to the ssd
    with it's updates all done. Haven't done it yet as hope for a
    resolution.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)