• Re: Pester mail

    From Graham J@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed Feb 21 12:11:34 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Ed Cryer wrote:
    I don't mean scam or spam mail. I mean the ones that retailers and
    others send.
    I buy something at Currys or Argos, and they pester me for ages to write
    a review. I shop at M&S, show my Sparks card, get pestered with "How did
    we do?" This How-did-we-do practice is spreading everywhere by the week.
    My GP's reception is using it now, online and after phone calls. It's irritating.

    I know I could use spam filters, but then I'd cut out wanted emails such
    as receipts, guarantees and the like.

    Don't buy from those retailers. If you must, don't give them your email
    or phone number(s)

    It's often quicker to drive to your GP than ring.


    --
    Graham J

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 12:05:41 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    I don't mean scam or spam mail. I mean the ones that retailers and
    others send.
    I buy something at Currys or Argos, and they pester me for ages to write
    a review. I shop at M&S, show my Sparks card, get pestered with "How did
    we do?" This How-did-we-do practice is spreading everywhere by the week.
    My GP's reception is using it now, online and after phone calls. It's irritating.

    I know I could use spam filters, but then I'd cut out wanted emails such
    as receipts, guarantees and the like.

    Ed

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Graham J on Wed Feb 21 13:25:08 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2024-02-21 13:11, Graham J wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    I don't mean scam or spam mail. I mean the ones that retailers and
    others send.
    I buy something at Currys or Argos, and they pester me for ages to
    write a review. I shop at M&S, show my Sparks card, get pestered with
    "How did we do?" This How-did-we-do practice is spreading everywhere
    by the week. My GP's reception is using it now, online and after phone
    calls. It's irritating.

    I know I could use spam filters, but then I'd cut out wanted emails
    such as receipts, guarantees and the like.

    As these posts are machine made, they usually have a fixed pattern, in
    the from and/or subject fields, so you can create an exact filter on
    them to move to a separate folder (I never automatically delete, just in
    case).


    Don't buy from those retailers.  If you must, don't give them your email
    or phone number(s)

    That's often not possible.

    Although at least in Europe, in the form we fill there is a tick to not
    receive communications.



    It's often quicker to drive to your GP than ring.



    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Fokke Nauta@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed Feb 21 13:36:50 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 21/02/2024 13:05, Ed Cryer wrote:
    I don't mean scam or spam mail. I mean the ones that retailers and
    others send.
    I buy something at Currys or Argos, and they pester me for ages to write
    a review. I shop at M&S, show my Sparks card, get pestered with "How did
    we do?" This How-did-we-do practice is spreading everywhere by the week.
    My GP's reception is using it now, online and after phone calls. It's irritating.

    I know I could use spam filters, but then I'd cut out wanted emails such
    as receipts, guarantees and the like.

    Ed


    Yes, that's how it works these days.
    Don't bother, delete them.

    Fokke

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  • From MJP@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 13:11:07 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Create an email for that retailer using temp email or yahoo allow you to create an additional email with argos in the name

    delete after use



    mjp

    "Ed Cryer" wrote in message news:ur4ov5$3496r$1@dont-email.me...

    I don't mean scam or spam mail. I mean the ones that retailers and
    others send.
    I buy something at Currys or Argos, and they pester me for ages to write
    a review. I shop at M&S, show my Sparks card, get pestered with "How did
    we do?" This How-did-we-do practice is spreading everywhere by the week.
    My GP's reception is using it now, online and after phone calls. It's irritating.

    I know I could use spam filters, but then I'd cut out wanted emails such
    as receipts, guarantees and the like.

    Ed

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 14:31:50 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Ed,

    but then I'd cut out wanted emails such as receipts, guarantees and the
    like.

    In that case you have (given yourself) no choice.

    Best suggestion I can give is to have them drop into a "garbage/spam"
    account (not automatically retrieved with all the other emails I mean), and only look at them when you "have the time" (read: energy) to deal with them.
    Or when you need one of those receipts, guarantees, or others (which is
    mostly never).

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed Feb 21 08:36:25 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    "Ed Cryer" <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote

    |I don't mean scam or spam mail. I mean the ones that retailers and
    | others send.
    | I buy something at Currys or Argos, and they pester me for ages to write
    | a review. I shop at M&S, show my Sparks card, get pestered with "How did
    | we do?"

    If you're going to sign up, have a "loyalty card", give
    them you phone #, etc, then you can hardly complain
    when the spam you. You've traded your privacy for a
    sale price. In many cases you don't even get a real sale
    price. For example, Whole Foods gives just enough
    discounts to Amazon Prime customers to make them
    feel clever, but it's typically just the same price the item
    was last week, before they jacked it up.

    I rarely buy online, so very few companies have my email
    address. If you give it out then you have to accept that
    they're going to take that as a license to spam.

    Recently I did buy online, from a company called
    1000museums. One can order a print of just about
    anything that's in a museum. Their website works very
    well. Their service was great. But then they started
    spamming. I'd expected that. So I gave them an email
    address that I never check and just checked it while
    waiting for the order. If I ever order from them again
    I'll do the same. I have lots of senders auto-deleted
    in TBird -- any business that required an email address.

    You can't have it both ways. If you're going to buy things
    regularly and want the relevant emails then you're stuck.
    You just have to reassure yourself that you saved 37 cents
    this month, so it was worth selling out your privacy and
    inviting their spam. :)

    (And yes, it is spam. "How did we do" is just a gimmick to
    engage you and make you feel that they deserve a
    recommendation to your friends. If they want you in a
    focus group they should offer to pay you.)

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Fokke Nauta on Wed Feb 21 13:49:18 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 21/02/2024 13:05, Ed Cryer wrote:
    I don't mean scam or spam mail. I mean the ones that retailers and
    others send.
    I buy something at Currys or Argos, and they pester me for ages to
    write a review. I shop at M&S, show my Sparks card, get pestered with
    "How did we do?" This How-did-we-do practice is spreading everywhere
    by the week. My GP's reception is using it now, online and after phone
    calls. It's irritating.

    I know I could use spam filters, but then I'd cut out wanted emails
    such as receipts, guarantees and the like.

    Ed


    Yes, that's how it works these days.
    Don't bother, delete them.

    Fokke

    Having given this a bit more thought (plus, talked it over with a
    friend) I feel rather hypocritical.
    I often use online reviews, both professional and personal, and feel
    grateful to the people who've taken the time to write them. Buying
    things, booking hotels, choosing restaurants etc. I can also see that
    "How did we do?" helps to improve things, including keeping staff on the
    line.
    People power.

    I've decided to live uncomplainingly with it; and even do more personal reviewing than I currently do.

    Ed

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to MJP on Wed Feb 21 14:25:20 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2024-02-21 14:11, MJP wrote:
    Create an email for that retailer  using temp email or yahoo allow you
    to create an additional email with argos in the name

    delete after use

    Not viable, when we know that they will send invoices, guarantee and
    other texts that we do need.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed Feb 21 14:11:14 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Ed Cryer wrote:

    I buy something at Currys or Argos, and they pester me for ages to write
    a review. I shop at M&S, show my Sparks card, get pestered with "How did
    we do?" This How-did-we-do practice is spreading everywhere by the week.
    My GP's reception is using it now, online and after phone calls. It's irritating.

    They mostly obey GDPR requests to not send you shit.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed Feb 21 07:21:50 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:05:41 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    I don't mean scam or spam mail. I mean the ones that retailers and
    others send.
    I buy something at Currys or Argos, and they pester me for ages to write
    a review. I shop at M&S, show my Sparks card, get pestered with "How did
    we do?" This How-did-we-do practice is spreading everywhere by the week.
    My GP's reception is using it now, online and after phone calls. It's irritating.

    I know I could use spam filters, but then I'd cut out wanted emails such
    as receipts, guarantees and the like.

    If it's a real company, there's usually an Unsubscribe
    link at the bottom of such mails.

    Granted, that doesn't always work. I had a subscription
    to /Astronomy/ magazine a few years ago, and Kalmbach
    Media keeps sending me marketing messages not just for
    /Astronomy/ but for other enterprises of theirs. When I
    click the Unsubscribe link, I get a web page that says
    I have no subscriptions at Kalmbach Media. They have a
    customer service phone number, but though the rep
    promised to stop the emails she didn't.

    But that's unusual. Most real businesses stopped
    sending me solicitations to review after I clicked
    their Unsubscribe.

    You could always give a low rating and explain in your
    review that it's because they keep spamming you with
    requests for a review.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA
    https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Wed Feb 21 18:56:03 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:05:41 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    I don't mean scam or spam mail. I mean the ones that retailers and
    others send.
    I buy something at Currys or Argos, and they pester me for ages to write
    a review. I shop at M&S, show my Sparks card, get pestered with "How did
    we do?" This How-did-we-do practice is spreading everywhere by the week.
    My GP's reception is using it now, online and after phone calls. It's
    irritating.

    I know I could use spam filters, but then I'd cut out wanted emails such
    as receipts, guarantees and the like.

    If it's a real company, there's usually an Unsubscribe
    link at the bottom of such mails.

    Granted, that doesn't always work. I had a subscription
    to /Astronomy/ magazine a few years ago, and Kalmbach
    Media keeps sending me marketing messages not just for
    /Astronomy/ but for other enterprises of theirs. When I
    click the Unsubscribe link, I get a web page that says
    I have no subscriptions at Kalmbach Media. They have a
    customer service phone number, but though the rep
    promised to stop the emails she didn't.

    But that's unusual. Most real businesses stopped
    sending me solicitations to review after I clicked
    their Unsubscribe.

    You could always give a low rating and explain in your
    review that it's because they keep spamming you with
    requests for a review.


    Have you ever had the telephone calls where, when you answer, they hang up?
    I have one female who rings me and asks for Mr Taylor, or Mr Bright, or
    Mr Gigglesworth; I say he's not here and hang up.
    The other day she asked for Mr Taylor, so I shouted behind me "Mr
    Taylor, you're wanted on the phone". The caller stayed on the line until
    I hung up.
    These calls come from different numbers across the UK.

    What is going on here? Whatever it is, it makes me jumpy and suspicious
    of a whole host of possible scams.

    Ed

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed Feb 21 20:10:30 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2024-02-21 19:56, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:05:41 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:



    Have you ever had the telephone calls where, when you answer, they hang up?

    Robocall.

    There are two explanations.

    They have a bunch of humans. There is a machine making calls. If nobody answers, the machine goes to the next number in the list. When someone
    answers, it is passed fast to a human. If there is no human available,
    it hangs down silently. Not even a “Sorry!”

    The rationale is not having the humans iddle a single second. Costs
    money to them.


    The other explanation is also a robocall, which is testing for a human
    presence at the other end, find out when there is somebody home or not.

    I have one female who rings me and asks for Mr Taylor, or Mr Bright, or
    Mr Gigglesworth; I say he's not here and hang up.
    The other day she asked for Mr Taylor, so I shouted behind me "Mr
    Taylor, you're wanted on the phone". The caller stayed on the line until
    I hung up.
    These calls come from different numbers across the UK.

    This one is peculiar.


    What is going on here? Whatever it is, it makes me jumpy and suspicious
    of a whole host of possible scams.

    Never say "yes".

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 19:21:36 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 20:15:20 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed Feb 21 22:18:16 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2024-02-21 20:21, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-02-21 19:56, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:05:41 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:



    Have you ever had the telephone calls where, when you answer, they
    hang up?

    Robocall.

    There are two explanations.

    They have a bunch of humans. There is a machine making calls. If
    nobody answers, the machine goes to the next number in the list. When
    someone answers, it is passed fast to a human. If there is no human
    available, it hangs down silently. Not even a “Sorry!”

    The rationale is not having the humans iddle a single second. Costs
    money to them.


    The other explanation is also a robocall, which is testing for a human
    presence at the other end, find out when there is somebody home or not.

    I have one female who rings me and asks for Mr Taylor, or Mr Bright,
    or Mr Gigglesworth; I say he's not here and hang up.
    The other day she asked for Mr Taylor, so I shouted behind me "Mr
    Taylor, you're wanted on the phone". The caller stayed on the line
    until I hung up.
    These calls come from different numbers across the UK.

    This one is peculiar.


    What is going on here? Whatever it is, it makes me jumpy and
    suspicious of a whole host of possible scams.

    Never say "yes".


    I suspect they're not hardened criminals; they're just poor saps who've
    been offered a job when there's no other. Somewhere in the poor world.
    They get given a list of telephone numbers, call them and record whether
    they answer or not.
    If they answer, it's a valid number. And that gets added to a "valid
    number list", which is sold to spammers and scammers. But the poor sap
    doing the groundwork isn't sufficiently savvy to know what's going on.

    It's a moral dilemma. Because, if you shout at and abuse the poor sap
    front man, you're abusing someone who's already being abused and exploited.

    Nono, this is done "locally", at least many of them are. They already
    know my full name. They have validated phone lists.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed Feb 21 15:08:01 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 19:21:36 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    suspicious of a whole host of possible scams.

    Never say "yes".

    The reason for this is that the call may be recorded, and it's
    child's play to splice in a different question, like "How about I
    subscribe you to our newsletter? After the first issue we'll bill you
    a low, low 9.99 a month." If they've got "Yes" in your voice it's
    harder to prove you never consented.

    I suspect they're not hardened criminals; they're just poor saps who've
    been offered a job when there's no other. Somewhere in the poor world.
    They get given a list of telephone numbers, call them and record whether
    they answer or not.

    I can't say for sure that you're wrong, but a robocaller is cheaper
    than a human. And your sometimes hangups are consistent with it being
    a robot that just hangs up on you because there's no human available
    to try to hook you.

    It's a moral dilemma. Because, if you shout at and abuse the poor sap
    front man, you're abusing someone who's already being abused and exploited.

    That's true, but "I'm just following orders" as an excuse was
    exploded in the 1940s. No one -- NO ONE -- thinks telemarketing calls
    are welcome. If someone chooses to do that work, they have to accept
    that verbal abuse comes with it. However, abusing the caller won't
    change the behavior.

    The thing to do, if you want to disincentivize the behavior, is to
    engage the person with a zillion questions. That ties them up with no
    revenue for the telemarketing company or the scum who hired the
    telemarketing company. Just think if we all did that!

    Or you could take the Seinfeld approach:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNJIpn1Pcg>

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Charlie+@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 22 07:18:26 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:05:41 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
    wrote as underneath :

    I don't mean scam or spam mail. I mean the ones that retailers and
    others send.
    I buy something at Currys or Argos, and they pester me for ages to write
    a review. I shop at M&S, show my Sparks card, get pestered with "How did
    we do?" This How-did-we-do practice is spreading everywhere by the week.
    My GP's reception is using it now, online and after phone calls. It's >irritating.

    I know I could use spam filters, but then I'd cut out wanted emails such
    as receipts, guarantees and the like.

    The practical answer is to use Mailwasher or an equivalent
    filtering/learning program. Have a look at what these progs do. Iv' Used Mailwasher + an off line reader (Agent in my case) since about about
    Windows95 C+

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Char Jackson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 3 17:33:48 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:25:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2024-02-21 13:11, Graham J wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    I don't mean scam or spam mail. I mean the ones that retailers and
    others send.
    I buy something at Currys or Argos, and they pester me for ages to
    write a review. I shop at M&S, show my Sparks card, get pestered with
    "How did we do?" This How-did-we-do practice is spreading everywhere
    by the week. My GP's reception is using it now, online and after phone
    calls. It's irritating.

    I know I could use spam filters, but then I'd cut out wanted emails
    such as receipts, guarantees and the like.

    As these posts are machine made, they usually have a fixed pattern, in
    the from and/or subject fields, so you can create an exact filter on
    them to move to a separate folder (I never automatically delete, just in >case).

    That's generally what I do, and it has been successful. There's no reason to use
    a big hammer and block "all from sender" when it's usually easy to block just the annoying stuff. I give them a chance by using the Unsubscribe link, but if they ignore it then I add a filter. I give them enough time to do the right thing, of course.

    Every now and then I do leave a review, especially when something specific could
    have been handled better or when an employee has gone above and beyond to make things better. IME, leaving a review stops the emails, as it should.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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