• Re: VulnDetect

    From Paul@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 20 04:14:03 2024
    On 2/20/2024 3:49 AM, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    Many thanks,
    -T

    https://secteer.com/

    "Contact us

    Univate - Njalsgade 76, 4th Floor
    DK-2300 Copenhagen Denmark
    +45 70 707 759
    contact@secteer.com
    DK38330462

    VulnDetect stored on servers by: Hetzner

    *******

    "The addresses of SecTeer services are:

    https://*.vulndetect.com/ (port 443/tcp)

    The above should be whitelisted in the Firewall/Proxy configuration
    "

    I would guess some engine component is stored on the thing needing
    a firewall opening. The part that does the billing, likely
    has a working email.

    While at one time, there was the notion that some part
    of this was free, it's really hard to tell from the Archive.org
    breadcrumbs.

    There is vulndetect.com and vulndetect.org and at some point
    secteer enters the picture.

    Paul

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From T@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 20 00:49:13 2024
    Hi All,

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    Many thanks,
    -T

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From AllanH@21:1/5 to T@invalid.invalid on Tue Feb 20 04:00:17 2024
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 02:49:13 -0600, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Hi All,

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    Many thanks,
    -T


    It's not a dead program in my book.
    It's my favorite Updater program currently.
    It's free for personal use. It does require registration with an email address. Their Forum and the Download link are at https://vulndetect.org/


    --
    Using Opera's mail client: https://web.archive.org/web/20130226002115/http://www.opera.com/mail/ https://web.archive.org/web/20130709005515/http://help.opera.com/Windows/12.10/en/mail.html
    https://web.archive.org/web/20130223015023/http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/mail/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 20 09:53:06 2024
    On 20/02/2024 08:49, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    Many thanks,

    This one?
    - https://vulndetect.org/

    --
    Regards
    wasbit

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From T@21:1/5 to Paul on Tue Feb 20 02:26:22 2024
    On 2/20/24 01:14, Paul wrote:
    On 2/20/2024 3:49 AM, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    Many thanks,
    -T

    https://secteer.com/

    "Contact us

    Univate - Njalsgade 76, 4th Floor
    DK-2300 Copenhagen Denmark
    +45 70 707 759
    contact@secteer.com

    They ghosted me. Their fill in form ghosted me too.

    DK38330462

    VulnDetect stored on servers by: Hetzner

    *******

    "The addresses of SecTeer services are:

    https://*.vulndetect.com/ (port 443/tcp)

    The above should be whitelisted in the Firewall/Proxy configuration
    "

    I would guess some engine component is stored on the thing needing
    a firewall opening. The part that does the billing, likely
    has a working email.

    While at one time, there was the notion that some part
    of this was free, it's really hard to tell from the Archive.org
    breadcrumbs.

    There is vulndetect.com and vulndetect.org and at some point
    secteer enters the picture.

    Paul

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From T@21:1/5 to AllanH on Tue Feb 20 02:28:23 2024
    On 2/20/24 02:00, AllanH wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 02:49:13 -0600, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Hi All,

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    Many thanks,
    -T


    It's not a dead program in my book.
    It's my favorite Updater program currently.
    It's free for personal use. It does require registration with an email address.
    Their Forum and the Download link are at https://vulndetect.org/

    Downloading it is not a problem. But how do I purchase it?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From T@21:1/5 to wasbit on Tue Feb 20 02:27:06 2024
    On 2/20/24 01:53, wasbit wrote:
    On 20/02/2024 08:49, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    Many thanks,

    This one?
     - https://vulndetect.org/


    That is their support forum. I could
    not figure out how to create an account.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to T@invalid.invalid on Tue Feb 20 20:34:03 2024
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    Secunia PSI got sunsetted. VulnDetect was its substitute. The URL you
    gave is to the .com login page. Their web site is at vulndetect.org
    where there is a download link to their program (I didn't bother to see
    when was the last update of it). Forum posts about their releases show
    3.2.0.0 was released on 1/22/2024. Their download link points to a 2 MB
    setup file with no version number in its name, so maybe they dump a stub installer on your host, and it connects back to their server to decide
    what to actually install. I downloaded their .exe file, and opened it
    using Peazip. The version.txt file also says version 3.2.0.0. There
    was nothing inside the .exe that would be large enough to be a
    standalone (local) installer. I didn't see anything inside to run as an executable, but maybe Peazip doesn't show the root level where the
    executable code might reside. I've never used the program, so maybe it
    really is only about 2 MB in size if it gets everything on which it
    tests from there server.

    If you're into social networks, they have a LinkedIn page at:

    https://no.linkedin.com/company/secteer

    There personal-use version is free. It's their business license that
    costs money.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to T@invalid.invalid on Tue Feb 20 20:43:10 2024
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    AllanH wrote:

    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    It's not a dead program in my book.
    It's my favorite Updater program currently.
    It's free for personal use. It does require registration with an email
    address.
    Their Forum and the Download link are at https://vulndetect.org/

    Downloading it is not a problem. But how do I purchase it?

    Maybe at winston's cite of their price quote request page:

    https://secteer.com/request-quote/

    Since they won't divulge prices at their web site, quoting a price
    depends on how deep is your pocket; i.e., charge what a customer is
    willing to bear. They probably want to license by seats at the same organization, so you probably can't use it as a toolbar utility wherever
    you want. Your customers will have to buy it.

    From https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/515109-07#overview, I only
    see investment of seed money back in Nov 2022.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From T@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Tue Feb 20 20:35:58 2024
    On 2/20/24 18:43, VanguardLH wrote:
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    AllanH wrote:

    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    It's not a dead program in my book.
    It's my favorite Updater program currently.
    It's free for personal use. It does require registration with an email
    address.
    Their Forum and the Download link are at https://vulndetect.org/

    Downloading it is not a problem. But how do I purchase it?

    Maybe at winston's cite of their price quote request page:

    https://secteer.com/request-quote/

    Since they won't divulge prices at their web site, quoting a price
    depends on how deep is your pocket; i.e., charge what a customer is
    willing to bear. They probably want to license by seats at the same organization, so you probably can't use it as a toolbar utility wherever
    you want. Your customers will have to buy it.

    From https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/515109-07#overview, I only
    see investment of seed money back in Nov 2022.


    The third time I did request a quote, a sale man
    responded. A one to 20 seat license is 900 U$D a year.
    Way out of my customer's range.

    I asked the salesman what he could do for seven seats
    of the personal edition. I am still waiting.

    I see Vicarius wants $5 per seat per month
    https://www.vicarius.io/pricing
    or $420 /yr for seven seats. Much better.

    All I need to know is when a program has a
    vulnerability/critical update pending and
    nothing else. Automatic patches, etc. is out.

    So I am still looking.

    My head is spinning that SUMo closed.

    You guys know of anything that might fit the bill?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From T@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Tue Feb 20 20:40:21 2024
    On 2/20/24 18:34, VanguardLH wrote:
    There personal-use version is free. It's their business license that
    costs money.

    After my third attempt on their request a quote page, a salesman got
    back to me. They want $900 U$D per year for 1 to 20 seats.
    Way, way to expensive for my customer.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From T@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 20 21:36:16 2024
    On 2/20/24 00:49, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    Many thanks,
    -T


    I am thinking that UCheck:
    https://www.adlice.com/ucheck/
    might be the only seasonably priced SUMo alternative
    for my customer. It's down aside is that it does
    not show what updates are critical, as does the
    defunct SUMo and the expensive VulnDetect

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to T@invalid.invalid on Wed Feb 21 01:07:11 2024
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2/20/24 18:43, VanguardLH wrote:
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    AllanH wrote:

    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    It's not a dead program in my book.
    It's my favorite Updater program currently.
    It's free for personal use. It does require registration with an email >>>> address.
    Their Forum and the Download link are at https://vulndetect.org/

    Downloading it is not a problem. But how do I purchase it?

    Maybe at winston's cite of their price quote request page:

    https://secteer.com/request-quote/

    Since they won't divulge prices at their web site, quoting a price
    depends on how deep is your pocket; i.e., charge what a customer is
    willing to bear. They probably want to license by seats at the same
    organization, so you probably can't use it as a toolbar utility wherever
    you want. Your customers will have to buy it.

    From https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/515109-07#overview, I only
    see investment of seed money back in Nov 2022.

    The third time I did request a quote, a sale man
    responded. A one to 20 seat license is 900 U$D a year.
    Way out of my customer's range.

    I asked the salesman what he could do for seven seats
    of the personal edition. I am still waiting.

    I see Vicarius wants $5 per seat per month
    https://www.vicarius.io/pricing
    or $420 /yr for seven seats. Much better.

    All I need to know is when a program has a
    vulnerability/critical update pending and
    nothing else. Automatic patches, etc. is out.

    So I am still looking.

    My head is spinning that SUMo closed.

    You guys know of anything that might fit the bill?

    "Download SecTeer Personal VulnDetect - an alternative to the long lost
    Secunia PSI"

    Wasn't Secunia PSI free? If so, for Vulndetect (Personal) to be an
    alternative means it should also be free.

    Secunia's PSI got dropped, and users dropped it because it was free.
    Secunia is still in the vulnerability analysis market. You might want
    to get a quote from Flexera (they acquired Secunia in 2015) on their
    Software Vulnerability Manager to see if it is cheaper or more expensive
    than Vulndetect.

    If you thought $900 (per year? per seat?) was expensive, vulnerability
    analysis and protection isn't cheap often running $1000 to $4500 per
    year. Take a look at Astra's prices:

    https://www.getastra.com/pentest/pricing

    With PSI, Sumo, and other freebies, all they were was software update
    checkers. They'd see if you were missing updates. Since the OS and
    most apps already have their own update checkers, PSI and the others
    lost their importance. Vulnerability testing and analysis, on the other
    hand, is a hell of lot more testing, and takes a lot more work on your
    part to understand, and covers the high-tech support needed for those
    products and services. They really aren't do-it-yourself-alone software updaters.

    I don't remember PSI *ever* performing vulnerability testing, just
    software updating. Well, hell, there are lots of software update
    checkers. Even CCleaner has a very basic Software Update checker (as
    long as you don'g disable outbound connections through a firewall as I
    did to eliminate Avast's addition of their adware platform to CCleaner).

    https://www.lifewire.com/free-software-updater-programs-2625200

    You mentioned uCheck. Yep, just another software update checker.
    Nothing to do with vulnerability testing and analysis. Between Windows
    having its own update checking (which I disable until I prepare, like
    assigning the time, saving an image backup, and having initiative to
    bother changing the state of the OS), and almost all programs I've
    installed having their own update checker (although some just alert
    there is a new update rather than downloading and installing it), I have
    found no need for a software update checker tool. Those promote you to
    make more changes than really needed for your setup.

    You don't let your customers do the software updates themselves, right?
    That's what they pay you for. If you give them software updaters,
    they'll fuck up their setups, and you'll have to undo their screwups.
    Or maybe that's your covert agenda to generate more work and revenue.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From T@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Wed Feb 21 12:13:35 2024
    On 2/20/24 23:07, VanguardLH wrote:
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2/20/24 18:43, VanguardLH wrote:
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    AllanH wrote:

    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    It's not a dead program in my book.
    It's my favorite Updater program currently.
    It's free for personal use. It does require registration with an email >>>>> address.
    Their Forum and the Download link are at https://vulndetect.org/

    Downloading it is not a problem. But how do I purchase it?

    Maybe at winston's cite of their price quote request page:

    https://secteer.com/request-quote/

    Since they won't divulge prices at their web site, quoting a price
    depends on how deep is your pocket; i.e., charge what a customer is
    willing to bear. They probably want to license by seats at the same
    organization, so you probably can't use it as a toolbar utility wherever >>> you want. Your customers will have to buy it.

    From https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/515109-07#overview, I only >>> see investment of seed money back in Nov 2022.

    The third time I did request a quote, a sale man
    responded. A one to 20 seat license is 900 U$D a year.
    Way out of my customer's range.

    I asked the salesman what he could do for seven seats
    of the personal edition. I am still waiting.

    I see Vicarius wants $5 per seat per month
    https://www.vicarius.io/pricing
    or $420 /yr for seven seats. Much better.

    All I need to know is when a program has a
    vulnerability/critical update pending and
    nothing else. Automatic patches, etc. is out.

    So I am still looking.

    My head is spinning that SUMo closed.

    You guys know of anything that might fit the bill?

    "Download SecTeer Personal VulnDetect - an alternative to the long lost Secunia PSI"

    Wasn't Secunia PSI free? If so, for Vulndetect (Personal) to be an alternative means it should also be free.

    It is only free to non-business use. My customer is a business.

    Secunia's PSI got dropped, and users dropped it because it was free.
    Secunia is still in the vulnerability analysis market. You might want
    to get a quote from Flexera (they acquired Secunia in 2015) on their
    Software Vulnerability Manager to see if it is cheaper or more expensive
    than Vulndetect.

    If you thought $900 (per year? per seat?) was expensive, vulnerability analysis and protection isn't cheap often running $1000 to $4500 per
    year. Take a look at Astra's prices:

    https://www.getastra.com/pentest/pricing

    With PSI, Sumo, and other freebies, all they were was software update checkers. They'd see if you were missing updates. Since the OS and
    most apps already have their own update checkers, PSI and the others
    lost their importance. Vulnerability testing and analysis, on the other hand, is a hell of lot more testing, and takes a lot more work on your
    part to understand, and covers the high-tech support needed for those products and services. They really aren't do-it-yourself-alone software updaters.

    I don't remember PSI *ever* performing vulnerability testing, just
    software updating. Well, hell, there are lots of software update
    checkers. Even CCleaner has a very basic Software Update checker (as
    long as you don'g disable outbound connections through a firewall as I
    did to eliminate Avast's addition of their adware platform to CCleaner).

    https://www.lifewire.com/free-software-updater-programs-2625200

    You mentioned uCheck. Yep, just another software update checker.
    Nothing to do with vulnerability testing and analysis. Between Windows having its own update checking (which I disable until I prepare, like assigning the time, saving an image backup, and having initiative to
    bother changing the state of the OS), and almost all programs I've
    installed having their own update checker (although some just alert
    there is a new update rather than downloading and installing it), I have found no need for a software update checker tool. Those promote you to
    make more changes than really needed for your setup.

    You don't let your customers do the software updates themselves, right? That's what they pay you for. If you give them software updaters,
    they'll fuck up their setups, and you'll have to undo their screwups.
    Or maybe that's your covert agenda to generate more work and revenue.


    PCI-DSS-v4-0-SAQ-C-r1, 6.3.3, pg 32
    6.3.3. pg 32: All system components are protected from
    known vulnerabilities by installing applicable security
    patches/updates as follows:

    • Critical or high-security patches/updates (identified
    according to the risk ranking process at Requirement
    6.3.1) are installed within one month of release.

    I "only" have to install "Critical or high-security patches/updates".

    An update checker, such as the now defunct SUMo which
    also shows "Critical" security updates, is exactly
    what I am after.

    And the market is blurring "Vulnerability" with "Critical or
    high-security patches/updates" and "Exploits". Those big
    packages are much different than update checkers, which only tell
    you what is out of date. The big packages also check for
    "Exploits", which they also call "vulnerabilities".
    And make a Google search a nightmare.

    But SUMo and the non-business version of VulnCheck tell
    you if there is also a security (blurring the word
    "Vulnerability") update pending. And that is what I
    am after.

    Ucheck only tells you if there is an update, which does
    also cover security and feature updates. For the
    extraordinary price, I will have to just live with it.

    I do not like wasting my customer's money on updates that are
    not required by PCI. But it is going to be way cheaper
    that VulnCheck, so I should stop being a perfectionist.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From T@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 12:20:57 2024
    On 2/21/24 12:13, T wrote:
    On 2/20/24 23:07, VanguardLH wrote:
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2/20/24 18:43, VanguardLH wrote:
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    AllanH wrote:

    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Is https://vulndetect.com a dead program?

    I can find no place on their web site to order.
    I have written them several times and they ghost me.
    Is this company out of business?

    It's not a dead program in my book.
    It's my favorite Updater program currently.
    It's free for personal use. It does require registration with an
    email
    address.
    Their Forum and the Download link are at https://vulndetect.org/

    Downloading it is not a problem.  But how do I purchase it?

    Maybe at winston's cite of their price quote request page:

    https://secteer.com/request-quote/

    Since they won't divulge prices at their web site, quoting a price
    depends on how deep is your pocket; i.e., charge what a customer is
    willing to bear.  They probably want to license by seats at the same
    organization, so you probably can't use it as a toolbar utility
    wherever
    you want.  Your customers will have to buy it.

      From https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/515109-07#overview, I
    only
    see investment of seed money back in Nov 2022.

    The third time I did request a quote, a sale man
    responded.  A one to 20 seat license is 900 U$D a year.
    Way out of my customer's range.

    I asked the salesman what he could do for seven seats
    of the personal edition.  I am still waiting.

    I see Vicarius wants $5 per seat per month
    https://www.vicarius.io/pricing
    or $420 /yr for seven seats.  Much better.

    All I need to know is when a program has a
    vulnerability/critical update pending and
    nothing else.  Automatic patches, etc. is out.

    So I am still looking.

    My head is spinning that SUMo closed.

    You guys know of anything that might fit the bill?

    "Download SecTeer Personal VulnDetect - an alternative to the long lost
    Secunia PSI"

    Wasn't Secunia PSI free?  If so, for Vulndetect (Personal) to be an
    alternative means it should also be free.

    It is only free to non-business use.  My customer is a business.

    Secunia's PSI got dropped, and users dropped it because it was free.
    Secunia is still in the vulnerability analysis market.  You might want
    to get a quote from Flexera (they acquired Secunia in 2015) on their
    Software Vulnerability Manager to see if it is cheaper or more expensive
    than Vulndetect.

    If you thought $900 (per year? per seat?) was expensive, vulnerability
    analysis and protection isn't cheap often running $1000 to $4500 per
    year.  Take a look at Astra's prices:

    https://www.getastra.com/pentest/pricing

    With PSI, Sumo, and other freebies, all they were was software update
    checkers.  They'd see if you were missing updates.  Since the OS and
    most apps already have their own update checkers, PSI and the others
    lost their importance.  Vulnerability testing and analysis, on the other
    hand, is a hell of lot more testing, and takes a lot more work on your
    part to understand, and covers the high-tech support needed for those
    products and services.  They really aren't do-it-yourself-alone software
    updaters.

    I don't remember PSI *ever* performing vulnerability testing, just
    software updating.  Well, hell, there are lots of software update
    checkers.  Even CCleaner has a very basic Software Update checker (as
    long as you don'g disable outbound connections through a firewall as I
    did to eliminate Avast's addition of their adware platform to CCleaner).

    https://www.lifewire.com/free-software-updater-programs-2625200

    You mentioned uCheck.  Yep, just another software update checker.
    Nothing to do with vulnerability testing and analysis.  Between Windows
    having its own update checking (which I disable until I prepare, like
    assigning the time, saving an image backup, and having initiative to
    bother changing the state of the OS), and almost all programs I've
    installed having their own update checker (although some just alert
    there is a new update rather than downloading and installing it), I have
    found no need for a software update checker tool.  Those promote you to
    make more changes than really needed for your setup.

    You don't let your customers do the software updates themselves, right?
    That's what they pay you for.  If you give them software updaters,
    they'll fuck up their setups, and you'll have to undo their screwups.
    Or maybe that's your covert agenda to generate more work and revenue.


    PCI-DSS-v4-0-SAQ-C-r1, 6.3.3, pg 32
         6.3.3. pg 32: All system components are protected from
         known vulnerabilities by installing applicable security
         patches/updates as follows:

         • Critical or high-security patches/updates (identified
         according to the risk ranking process at Requirement
         6.3.1) are installed within one month of release.

    I "only" have to install "Critical or high-security patches/updates".

    An update checker, such as the now defunct SUMo which
    also shows "Critical" security updates, is exactly
    what I am after.

    And the market is blurring "Vulnerability" with "Critical or
    high-security patches/updates" and "Exploits".  Those big
    packages are much different than update checkers, which only tell
    you what is out of date.  The big packages also check for
    "Exploits", which they also call "vulnerabilities".
    And make a Google search a nightmare.

    But SUMo and the non-business version of VulnCheck tell
    you if there is also a security (blurring the word
    "Vulnerability") update pending.  And that is what I
    am after.

    Ucheck only tells you if there is an update, which does
    also cover security and feature updates.  For the
    extraordinary price, I will have to just live with it.

    I do not like wasting my customer's money on updates that are
    not required by PCI.  But it is going to be way cheaper
    that VulnCheck, so I should stop being a perfectionist.


    VulCheck just sent me this:

    For just scanning and vulnerability insights you will be
    looking at 400 USD per year.

    UCheck would be $84 / yr.

    The difference would be made up in less than 3-1/2 hours
    of my labor install unnecessary updates.

    So hhhhhhhmmmmmm.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to T@invalid.invalid on Thu Feb 22 13:11:01 2024
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    [...]

    An update checker, such as the now defunct SUMo which
    also shows "Critical" security updates, is exactly
    what I am after.

    I haven't used them, but someone mentioned Avast, which made me
    remember that Avast had some kind of update checker.

    So I went to the 'For business' section on avast.com and as I
    understand it, you could get/use 'Avast Business Patch Management' at
    $16.42 per seat per year (discount for higher numbers of seats).

    'Patch Management' <https://www.avast.com/en-us/business/products/patch-management#pc>

    AFAICT, you do not need to run/use/buy the Antivrus product, but you
    need to have it installed:

    "Avast Business Antivirus is required to be installed as part of your
    Patch Management installation. Avast Business Antivirus will be placed
    into expired mode. You can start a trial or purchase Avast Business
    Antivirus within the Business Hub."

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Thu Feb 22 15:34:34 2024
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    An update checker, such as the now defunct SUMo which also shows
    "Critical" security updates, is exactly what I am after.

    I haven't used them, but someone mentioned Avast, which made me
    remember that Avast had some kind of update checker.

    So I went to the 'For business' section on avast.com and as I
    understand it, you could get/use 'Avast Business Patch Management' at
    $16.42 per seat per year (discount for higher numbers of seats).

    'Patch Management' <https://www.avast.com/en-us/business/products/patch-management#pc>

    They also have a driver update checker, too.

    https://www.avast.com/en-us/driver-updater#pc
    ($44/year subscriptionware)

    I don't use 3rd-party update checkers, so I have no idea how this one
    works other than it focuses on drivers, not apps. They have a separate
    app update checker noted at:

    https://www.avast.com/c-software-updater-tool

    They mention it is an integrated feature in their Avast One product, but
    it might be available separately. Couldn't tell if it is integrated
    with their Essential (free) or payware version of Avast One. The
    download link point to a file called:

    avast_one_free_antivirus.exe

    So, I suspect to get their software update checker has you get their
    free Essential edition of Avast One.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Fri Feb 23 14:54:29 2024
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    An update checker, such as the now defunct SUMo which also shows
    "Critical" security updates, is exactly what I am after.

    I haven't used them, but someone mentioned Avast, which made me
    remember that Avast had some kind of update checker.

    So I went to the 'For business' section on avast.com and as I
    understand it, you could get/use 'Avast Business Patch Management' at $16.42 per seat per year (discount for higher numbers of seats).

    'Patch Management' <https://www.avast.com/en-us/business/products/patch-management#pc>

    They also have a driver update checker, too.

    https://www.avast.com/en-us/driver-updater#pc
    ($44/year subscriptionware)

    I don't use 3rd-party update checkers, so I have no idea how this one
    works other than it focuses on drivers, not apps. They have a separate
    app update checker noted at:

    https://www.avast.com/c-software-updater-tool

    They mention it is an integrated feature in their Avast One product, but
    it might be available separately. Couldn't tell if it is integrated
    with their Essential (free) or payware version of Avast One. The
    download link point to a file called:

    avast_one_free_antivirus.exe

    So, I suspect to get their software update checker has you get their
    free Essential edition of Avast One.

    Yes, I know about Avast's free Software Updater, etc., but 'T' needs a solution for commercial businesses, so that's why I looked at the 'For business' section on avast.com.

    FTR, I also don't use 3rd-party update checkers for my private
    systems, not for software/programs/'apps'/<whatever> and certainly not
    for drivers.

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