• Turn off firewall warnings

    From Newyana2@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 13:44:25 2024
    Win10. I installed SimpleWall, which disables Windows
    firewall, and I disabled all of the
    settings for security notifications, yet I still get a popup every
    few minutes telling me to enable Windows firewall. Are
    there options somewere to disable these notifications,
    or disable all notifications? I did disable the notifications
    icon on the taskbar, but that also has no effect.

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  • From Kelce@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 23:06:10 2024
    On 11/02/2024 18:44, Newyana2 wrote:
    Win10. I installed SimpleWall, which disables Windows
    firewall, and I disabled all of the
    settings for security notifications, yet I still get a popup every
    few minutes telling me to enable Windows firewall. Are
    there options somewere to disable these notifications,
    or disable all notifications? I did disable the notifications
    icon on the taskbar, but that also has no effect.


    SimpleWall is not FireWall nor antiVirus tool. You need proper
    Anti-virus such as McAfee, AVG, Avast or Norton to disable Microsoft's
    free tool. Most people will say Microsoft's provided free version is
    quite suitable for home users but we are all different in opinions.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Newyana2@invalid.nospam on Sun Feb 11 20:58:25 2024
    Newyana2 <Newyana2@invalid.nospam> wrote:

    Win10. I installed SimpleWall, which disables Windows firewall, and I disabled all of the settings for security notifications, yet I still
    get a popup every few minutes telling me to enable Windows firewall.
    Are there options somewere to disable these notifications, or disable
    all notifications? I did disable the notifications icon on the
    taskbar, but that also has no effect.

    https://github.com/henrypp/simplewall
    "Simple tool to configure Windows Filtering Platform (WFP) which can
    configure network activity on your computer."

    It isn't a *fire*wall. It augments the Windows Firewall. The link in
    the above description points to:

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fwp/windows-filtering-platform-start-page
    "Windows Filtering Platform is a development platform and not a firewall itself. The firewall application that is built into Windows Vista,
    Windows Server 2008, and later operating systems Windows Firewall with
    Advanced Security (WFAS) is implemented using WFP."

    https://github.com/henrypp/simplewall/blob/master/README.md
    "Keep in mind, simplewall is not a control UI over Windows Firewall, and
    does not interact in any level with Windows Firewall. It works over
    Windows Filtering Platform (WFP) which is a set of internal API and
    system services that provide a platform for creating network filtering applications."

    So, it augments the Windows Firewall with yet another set of rules you
    can define. You end up adding to the rules already defined in Windows Firewall. I don't know SimpleWall to know how its rules would be better
    or different from those you can define in Windows Firewall.

    https://www.thewindowsclub.com/simplewall-block-applications-from-using-internet

    This looks like yet another attempt to make Windows Firewall more
    interactive when detecting processes want to make network connections.
    There are similar tools, like changing Windows Firewall to default to
    denying all connections, and adding a popup to let you decide to allow,
    block, and if permanent (create a rule) or temporary. Those tools alter Windows Firewall. Some give you more advanced settings to configure
    Windows Defender. SimpleWall is a WFP application that adds /more/
    rules to Windows Firewall.

    https://tailscale.com/blog/windows-firewall
    At the core of Windows firewalling is the Windows Filtering Platform
    (WFP). The WFP is a combination of in-kernel and userspace facilities
    to program and enforce packet filtering rules efficiently.

    Most Windows users never interact with WFP directly. If you˙ve seen a
    firewall-related pop-up in the past, you˙ve interacted with the
    unfortunately named ´Windows Defender Firewall with Advanced
    Security.ˇ

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Mon Feb 12 08:08:59 2024
    "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote

    | https://github.com/henrypp/simplewall
    | "Simple tool to configure Windows Filtering Platform (WFP) which can
    | configure network activity on your computer."
    |
    | It isn't a *fire*wall. It augments the Windows Firewall.

    No. It shuts off the Windows firewall and acts in its stead,
    using the WFP API. And it seems to do a beautiful job. But
    that's not the problem.

    | Most Windows users never interact with WFP directly. If you˙ve seen a
    | firewall-related pop-up in the past, you˙ve interacted with the
    | unfortunately named ´Windows Defender Firewall with Advanced
    | Security.

    Yes. So my question is how to shut off those popups when
    the options to shut them off don't do it? I'm wondering if there's
    some kind of service, setting, or scheduled task that's controlling
    these random popups.

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to Kelce on Mon Feb 12 08:32:09 2024
    "Kelce" <invalid@invalid.net> wrote

    | >
    | SimpleWall is not FireWall

    Yes it is. And that's not what I'm asking about. Nor did
    I ask for opinions about AV. I'm asking how to stop warning
    popups after having already turned off notifications.

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 12 12:26:13 2024
    I think I finally found this. Despite specifically turing off
    security notifications is settings, I was still getting regular
    popups. So far this seems to have fixed it:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender Security Center\Notifications

    32-bit DWord Set to 1
    The last two keys must be created.

    I also came across a setting to disable USB nags despite
    disabling autorun:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shell\USB.
    Set NotifyOnUsbErrors to 0.

    The key required taking ownership in order to change
    the setting. Though it still doesn't seem to stop all warnings.

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 12 12:54:58 2024
    | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender Security
    | Center\Notifications
    |
    | 32-bit DWord Set to 1
    | The last two keys must be created.
    |

    Woops. I left out the setting name there:

    Windows Defender Security Center and Notifications are both keys
    that must be created. The setting name is "DisableNotifications"
    Type is dword. Value is 1. To re-enable notifications, delete the
    setting or set to 0.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Newyana2@invalid.nospam on Mon Feb 12 14:54:02 2024
    Newyana2 <Newyana2@invalid.nospam> wrote:

    "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote

    | https://github.com/henrypp/simplewall
    | "Simple tool to configure Windows Filtering Platform (WFP) which can
    | configure network activity on your computer."
    |
    | It isn't a *fire*wall. It augments the Windows Firewall.

    No. It shuts off the Windows firewall and acts in its stead,
    using the WFP API. And it seems to do a beautiful job. But
    that's not the problem.

    | Most Windows users never interact with WFP directly. If you˙ve seen a
    | firewall-related pop-up in the past, you˙ve interacted with the
    | unfortunately named ´Windows Defender Firewall with Advanced
    | Security.

    Yes. So my question is how to shut off those popups when
    the options to shut them off don't do it? I'm wondering if there's
    some kind of service, setting, or scheduled task that's controlling
    these random popups.

    Have you already tried:

    - Start menu: enter "security", and select "Windows Security".
    - Click "Firewall & network protection".
    - Click on "Domain network". Disable.
    - Click on "Private network". Disable.
    - Click on "Public network". Disable.

    Those are different profiles you see when you run WF.msc. All those
    disables might be the same; that is, disabling one results in all
    disabled. Reboot after disabling.

    In the systray at its right side is a square bubble icon. That brings
    up the Notifications pane. Then click on "Manage notifications" at the
    top right corner. In the Notifications and Actions wizard, scroll down
    to "Security and Maintenance". Disable that notification source. To
    see what notifications it handles, search on "security and maintenance"
    in the Start menu and click on "Security and Maintenance" (or run
    control.exe, and select "Security and Maintenance" to get the old dialog window. You can see what type of notifications are covered under the
    Security category, and what are under the Maintenance category.

    Instead of clicking on the disable slider in Notifications for "Security
    and Maintenance", you can click on the notification category to get more detailed config settings. Don't click on the enable/disable slider, but
    click on the highlighted category, like on the title text describing the notification category. For example, you could leave notification on,
    but hide them as banners or in the action center or both.

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Mon Feb 12 16:03:32 2024
    "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote

    | Have you already tried:
    |

    Thanks. Yes, I tried it all. See my recent post. I think I solved it.
    It required yet another secret decoder ring Registry setting.
    Somehow I hadn't found it in my online searches before, but
    trying various search terms it finally turned up. I figured there
    had to be something that would work.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Newyana2@invalid.nospam on Mon Feb 12 16:47:52 2024
    Newyana2 <Newyana2@invalid.nospam> wrote:

    "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote

    | Have you already tried:
    |

    Thanks. Yes, I tried it all. See my recent post. I think I solved it.
    It required yet another secret decoder ring Registry setting.
    Somehow I hadn't found it in my online searches before, but
    trying various search terms it finally turned up. I figured there
    had to be something that would work.

    Ah, yes, I see the registry setting you mention. That is a policy
    settings. Home editions of Windows don't come with the policy editor (gpedit.msc), so I didn't go there, because I also have the Home
    edition. You need the Pro or Enterprise edition to get the policy
    editor; however, all policies are registry settings, so you can effect
    most policy settings by registry edits. However, there are some you
    can't do using regedit, like SRPs (Software Restriction Policies) to
    restrict which apps are allowed to run or get blocked, and UserChoice
    entries on protected filetype associations. Those use a hash created by
    the OS to protect those registry entries from malicious alteration: if
    the hash isn't valid, the registry key gets deleted, and the default put
    in its place. Programs, including malware, can no longer make direct
    edits on protected registry entries. For programs that used to edit the registry to make themself the default, instead the user must use the GUI
    wizard afforded in the OS to select filetype handlers, or use the policy
    editor to protected policies in the registry.

    Many policies, however, are not protected. They are just registry edits although you might have to create a key or data item (the default gets
    used in their absence, so you need to create them to define different behavior). Microsoft has an Excel spreadsheet showing the policies, and
    where they are in the registry. However, there are templates you can
    add to the policies, and I suspect the spreadsheet just lists the inate policies in Windows, and not any template policies you add.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=101451

    That's why many articles telling you how to create or edit policies will
    also give you the registry settings to effect the same policies.

    Note: The registry setting you mentioned is under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, so
    it applies to all Windows accounts, not just for yours.

    In the spreadsheet, I found:

    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender Security Center\Notifications!DisableNotifications

    at row 4099. The description there is:

    Hide notifications from Windows Security.
    Enabled: Local users will not see notifications from Windows Security. Disabled: Local users can see notifications from Windows Security.
    Not configured: Same as Disabled.

    So you have to enable the hide option, which means you have to configure
    the policy since the default is to disable the hide. In the
    requirements cell, it notes:

    At least Windows Server 2016, Windows 10 Version 1709

    So, at some point before then, it was probably more of an option than a
    policy. I recall you used to bring up the notification panel, or maybe
    a security systray icon, and you could configure there to disable
    notifications for various security components.

    There is still a "Windows Security" systray icon, and right-clicking it
    to select "View notification options" brings up yet another wizard
    dialog, but looks to overlap other dialogs I already mentioned. That
    also has "Firewall & network protection notifications" that I found
    elsewhere along with the same checkboxes about domain, private, and
    public zones to enable/disable for the firewall, or enable/disable the
    entire Microsoft Defender Firewall (aka Windows Firewall). I'd check
    there after your registry hack, and a Windows reboot to effect it, to
    see if the firewall is disable in this GUI wizard.

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