I thought I was installing Whatsapp on my PC just because that one
airline insisted on my using it, but it turns out it's a really good
thing.
I pinned it to the taskbar, and now it shows a badge when I've gotten a whatsapp message. And it shows the text of the text message that was
left. This should be good for everyone but it is especially good for
me, because I only turn the cellphone on when I leave the house, and not always even then. (It probably required the phone to be on at one
point to transfer the text messages.)
And I presume I'll be able to use the mike and the speakers of the PC to
make whatsapp calls.
Installation on the PC is not straightforward compared to installing
other PC programs, but you guys can figure it out.
Thanks again, Frank.
I thought I was installing Whatsapp on my PC just because that one
airline insisted on my using it, but it turns out it's a really good
thing.
PC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on
the PC and activating it on the phone. I find it very useful under the conditions you described. If I connected a microphone I could answer
and make phone calls via the PC. Doesn't work if you switch the phone
off though.
On Fri, 02 Feb 2024 10:01:46 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
I thought I was installing Whatsapp on my PC just because that one
airline insisted on my using it, but it turns out it's a really good
thing.
PC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on
the PC and activating it on the phone. I find it very useful under the conditions you described. If I connected a microphone I could answer
and make phone calls via the PC. Doesn't work if you switch the phone
off though.
(Similar capabilities are available on Apple devices but I don't know anything about them.)
PC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on
the PC and activating it on the phone.
PC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on
the PC and activating it on the phone.
Can you elaborate on the Android apps integration with Windows Phone
Link?
I use it to copy/paste text between my Android phone and Windows
laptop.
I use Nox emulator to launch Android apps on my laptop, but it's
a bit clunky to use.
PC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on
the PC and activating it on the phone.
Can you elaborate on the Android apps integration with Windows Phone
Link? I use it to copy/paste text between my Android phone and Windows laptop. I use Nox emulator to launch Android apps on my laptop, but it's
a bit clunky to use.
PC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on
the PC and activating it on the phone.
Can you elaborate on the Android apps integration with Windows Phone
Link?
I think Phone Link requires you to go through Microsoft Account servers.
I use it to copy/paste text between my Android phone and Windows laptop.
With opensource scrcopy, you can copy & paste using both the Android clipboard on Android & Windows & Windows clipboard on Windows & Android.
I use Nox emulator to launch Android apps on my laptop, but it's a bit
clunky to use.
Looking that up is confusing because there's a "Nox player" and a "Nox emulator" and a whole bunch of web sites claiming to be "it" for each.
"NoxPlayer, the perfect Android emulator to play mobile games on PC" https://www.bignox.com/
"Get ready to play your favorite android games on your Windows PC and Mac
on one of the most robust android emulators."
https://noxofficial.com/
"Nox App Player has got tons of fantastic features to make your Android experience easy and smooth on the big screen of your Windows PC/Laptop. In fact, the user interface of the Nox Emulator is impeccably clean and tidy with each functionality quick and easy to access. There�s been a long battle going on in terms of comparison between Bluestacks and Nox Player." https://noxemulator.org/
"NoxPlayer is a free Android emulator that lets you play Android games and apps on Windows or Mac." https://www.techspot.com/downloads/6751-nox-app-player.html
"Nox App Player is one of the best Android emulators out there in the
market which lets you turn your PC to an Android interface. You will be
able to install Android games and applications on your PC or Computer using NOX Emulator."
https://noxemulator.org/download/
Which of those (or others) are the official download to test out?
With opensource scrcopy, you can copy & paste using both the Android
clipboard on Android & Windows & Windows clipboard on Windows & Android.
PC Phone Link copy/paste is bi-directional between Android and Windows.
PC Phone Link feels more naturally integrated between the devices than Scrcopy. But I used Scrcopy for mirroring, not copy/paste.
I use Nox emulator to launch Android apps on my laptop, but it's a bit
clunky to use.
Looking that up is confusing because there's a "Nox player" and a "Nox
emulator" and a whole bunch of web sites claiming to be "it" for each.
Which of those (or others) are the official download to test out?
My Nox.exe shortcut launches NoxPlayer1 7.0.5.8.
I'm emulating the Samsung Galaxy S8+, Android 7.
what is wrong with using Dropbox so files are automatically syncedPC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on
the PC and activating it on the phone.
Can you elaborate on the Android apps integration with Windows Phone
Link? I use it to copy/paste text between my Android phone and Windows
laptop. I use Nox emulator to launch Android apps on my laptop, but it's
a bit clunky to use.
between devices?
Since you use scrcpy (and maybe even sndcpy) to mirror Android screen &
sound onto Windows with full keyboard & mouse use, you already know this. https://github.com/rom1v/sndcpy & https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy
what is wrong with using Dropbox so files are automatically syncedPC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on
the PC and activating it on the phone.
Can you elaborate on the Android apps integration with Windows Phone
Link? I use it to copy/paste text between my Android phone and Windows
laptop. I use Nox emulator to launch Android apps on my laptop, but
it's a bit clunky to use.
between devices?
So it has immense value to everyone who does have a Wi-Fi & bluetooth PC.
Can someone with BT & Wi-Fi test how well that Android mic works on a PC? https://github.com/teamclouday/AndroidMic/tree/main?tab=readme-ov-file#readme
Since you use scrcpy (and maybe even sndcpy) to mirror Android screen &
sound onto Windows with full keyboard & mouse use, you already know this. https://github.com/rom1v/sndcpy & https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy
But the others might not know that scrcopy & sndcopy don't need you to
create a Microsoft Account, while I think that the PC Phone Link does.
PC Phone Link feels more naturally integrated between the devices than
Scrcopy. But I used Scrcopy for mirroring, not copy/paste.
Does the Microsoft/Samsung phone mirroring still require that MS Account?
I use Nox emulator to launch Android apps on my laptop, but it's a
bit clunky to use.
My Nox.exe shortcut launches NoxPlayer1 7.0.5.8. I'm emulating the
Samsung Galaxy S8+, Android 7.
Emulation works great for executing Android apps on Windows, where I've tested all the Android emulators andyroid, arm, bluestacks, genymotion, google (via Android Studio), ko, memu, microsoft (died long ago) & nox.
I'm sure WhatsApp probably works on most of those Android emulators where
an advantage of screen copy is you can make POTS phone calls using the PC.
Given how mercurial each emulator is, if you've got Nox working, I would
take that as a recommendation that it will run WhatsApp well for the OP.
In article <news:upkj88$1fs6$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
So it has immense value to everyone who does have a Wi-Fi & bluetooth PC.
Can someone with BT & Wi-Fi test how well that Android mic works on a PC?
https://github.com/teamclouday/AndroidMic/tree/main?tab=readme-ov-file#readme
This capability has extraordinary value to users because the microphone is the last thing that Android needs to make the phone and PC one and the same device. Both apps installed in mere seconds after unzipping the zip file. https://github.com/teamclouday/AndroidMic/releases/download/2.0.0/release.zip
1. I installed the "setup.exe" on Windows & up popped the Windows GUI.
2. I installed the "microphone.apk" on Android & up popped the Android GUI.
AndroidMic microphone.apk [com.example.androidMic, Version 2.0 (9)]
Now what?
https://i.postimg.cc/52Jq5QwS/androidmic1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/RhcJqGb5/androidmic2.jpg
If we can get the microphone working, it would be one of the best things
that ever happened to Android & Windows working together since the entire phone would instantly be useable on Windows as a real (POTS) phone.
I don't have Wi-Fi nor Bluetooth on my old desktop. But I have USB.
It says it works with any or all of that (based on the GUI anyway).
It only takes a minute to run the two installers to test it out.
Since this is so important, can you try it out quickly and let me know?
Is it just my (admittedly deficient) Windows desktop hardware?
Does it work for yours?
Since you use scrcpy (and maybe even sndcpy) to mirror Android screen &
sound onto Windows with full keyboard & mouse use, you already know this.
https://github.com/rom1v/sndcpy & https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy
I rarely mirror anymore between my Android and PC.
And I usually do so using TeamViewer, not Scrcpy.
But the others might not know that scrcopy & sndcopy don't need you to
create a Microsoft Account, while I think that the PC Phone Link does.
I've had my Microsoft Account for years, so it's not an issue.
PC Phone Link feels more naturally integrated between the devices than
Scrcopy. But I used Scrcopy for mirroring, not copy/paste.
Does the Microsoft/Samsung phone mirroring still require that MS Account?
I only use TeamViewer for mirroring. And I rarely mirror anyway now. My original focus was on copy/paste text between Android and PC.
I use Nox emulator to launch Android apps on my laptop, but it's a
bit clunky to use.
My Nox.exe shortcut launches NoxPlayer1 7.0.5.8. I'm emulating the
Samsung Galaxy S8+, Android 7.
Given how mercurial each emulator is, if you've got Nox working, I would
take that as a recommendation that it will run WhatsApp well for the OP.
I'm not interested in using WhatsApp. I use the emulator mostly for some non-Windows games, a non-Windows wallet, and for viewing non-Windows
IPTV streaming apps.
The Windows installer is here.
https://micstream.io/micstream-setup-x64.exe
The Android installer is here. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.totech.phoneasmic
On 2024-02-02 16:53, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 02 Feb 2024 10:01:46 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
I thought I was installing Whatsapp on my PC just because that one
airline insisted on my using it, but it turns out it's a really good
thing.
PC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on
the PC and activating it on the phone. I find it very useful under the
conditions you described. If I connected a microphone I could answer
and make phone calls via the PC. Doesn't work if you switch the phone
off though.
(Similar capabilities are available on Apple devices but I don't know
anything about them.)
But this tool requires the phone to be running, whereas the whatsapp app
(or the equivalent on the web browser) do not.
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 19:30:23 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-02-02 16:53, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 02 Feb 2024 10:01:46 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
I thought I was installing Whatsapp on my PC just because that one
airline insisted on my using it, but it turns out it's a really good
thing.
PC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on
the PC and activating it on the phone. I find it very useful under the
conditions you described. If I connected a microphone I could answer
and make phone calls via the PC. Doesn't work if you switch the phone
off though.
(Similar capabilities are available on Apple devices but I don't know
anything about them.)
But this tool requires the phone to be running, whereas the whatsapp app
(or the equivalent on the web browser) do not.
Yes, but on the off-chance that someone might want to call us most of
us don't switch our phones off.
what is wrong with using Dropbox so files are automatically syncedPC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on >>>> the PC and activating it on the phone.
Can you elaborate on the Android apps integration with Windows Phone
Link? I use it to copy/paste text between my Android phone and
Windows laptop. I use Nox emulator to launch Android apps on my
laptop, but it's a bit clunky to use.
between devices?
I am not interested in synchronizing files between my Android and PC. I
was discussing the automatic copy/paste of text between my Android and Windows laptop, and the possibility of running Android apps on my
Windows laptop.
On 2024-02-03 15:15, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 19:30:23 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-02-02 16:53, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 02 Feb 2024 10:01:46 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
I thought I was installing Whatsapp on my PC just because that one
airline insisted on my using it, but it turns out it's a really good >>>>> thing.
PC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on >>>> the PC and activating it on the phone. I find it very useful under the >>>> conditions you described. If I connected a microphone I could answer
and make phone calls via the PC. Doesn't work if you switch the phone
off though.
(Similar capabilities are available on Apple devices but I don't know
anything about them.)
But this tool requires the phone to be running, whereas the whatsapp app >>> (or the equivalent on the web browser) do not.
Yes, but on the off-chance that someone might want to call us most of
us don't switch our phones off.
But specifically the OP does.
I am not interested in synchronizing files between my Android and PC. I===============
was discussing the automatic copy/paste of text between my Android and >Windows laptop, and the possibility of running Android apps on my
Windows laptop.
Someone in this or another group tried to teach me about the difference between an app and a program, BOTH on a PC. It hasn't sunk in yet. Are
you using app to mean program or are you using it differently from
program?
what is wrong with using Dropbox so files are automatically synced
between devices?
I am not interested in synchronizing files between my Android and PC. I
was discussing the automatic copy/paste of text between my Android and
Windows laptop, and the possibility of running Android apps on my
Windows laptop.
I do not have Android devices to test but if you use Dropbox as the
working data location than half of your desire is satisfied. That is how
I see current data on my iPad and iPhone even though I usually work on
my Windows desktop for its easier to use keyboard and vision on a larger display.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 3 Feb 2024 01:57:31 -0600, kelown <kelown@privacy.invalid> wrote:
===============
I am not interested in synchronizing files between my Android and PC. I
was discussing the automatic copy/paste of text between my Android and
Windows laptop, and the possibility of running Android apps on my
Windows laptop.
Someone in this or another group tried to teach me about the difference between an app and a program, BOTH on a PC. It hasn't sunk in yet. Are
you using app to mean program or are you using it differently from
program?
OK. But the sidethread is about using WhatsApp as if it's on the PC, where you brought up emulation - not me. I was responding to what you brought up.
I thought I was installing Whatsapp on my PC just because that one airline insisted on my using it, but it turns out it's a really good thing.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 3 Feb 2024 01:57:31 -0600, kelown ><kelown@privacy.invalid> wrote:
===============
I am not interested in synchronizing files between my Android and PC. I >>was discussing the automatic copy/paste of text between my Android and >>Windows laptop, and the possibility of running Android apps on my
Windows laptop.
Someone in this or another group tried to teach me about the difference >between an app and a program, BOTH on a PC. It hasn't sunk in yet. Are
you using app to mean program or are you using it differently from
program?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 3 Feb 2024 01:57:31 -0600, kelown <kelown@privacy.invalid> wrote:
===============
I am not interested in synchronizing files between my Android and PC. I
was discussing the automatic copy/paste of text between my Android and
Windows laptop, and the possibility of running Android apps on my
Windows laptop.
Someone in this or another group tried to teach me about the difference between an app and a program, BOTH on a PC. It hasn't sunk in yet. Are
you using app to mean program or are you using it differently from
program?
OK. But the sidethread is about using WhatsApp as if it's on the PC, where >> you brought up emulation - not me. I was responding to what you brought up.
My original inquiry was to get elaboration on using Windows Phone Link
to run Android apps.
OK. But the sidethread is about using WhatsApp as if it's on the PC, where >>> you brought up emulation - not me. I was responding to what you brought up. >>My original inquiry was to get elaboration on using Windows Phone Link
to run Android apps.
There are two (both easy) ways to "see/run" Android apps on Windows.
1. Emulation (they're actually running on the computer cpu)
2. Mirroring (they're just reacting to the computer monitor & kb & mouse)
Here's just one (of many) wireless screen mirroring tool. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fonelab.mirror.recorder
And here's just one (of many) phone emulator for the pc. https://developer.android.com/studio/run/emulator
On 2024-02-02 15:01, micky wrote:
I thought I was installing Whatsapp on my PC just because that one airline insisted on my using it, but it turns out it's a really good thing.
After lengthy threads in 3 newsgroups, the real issue for me has not emerged: Whatsapp on Windows, NO smartphone, NO Microsoft account. Would it be possible?
frank
Further research has shown me that Windows Phone Link simply mirrors the
apps already on your Android phone. It does not independently run
Android apps as an emulator would. I'm already using NoxPlayer as an emulator, so I'll continue using Windows Phone Link only for copy/paste across PC <=> Android devices.
On 2/4/24 10:14 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-03 09:19, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 3 Feb 2024 01:57:31 -0600, kelown
<kelown@privacy.invalid> wrote:
===============
I am not interested in synchronizing files between my Android and PC. I >>>> was discussing the automatic copy/paste of text between my Android and >>>> Windows laptop, and the possibility of running Android apps on my
Windows laptop.
Someone in this or another group tried to teach me about the difference
between an app and a program, BOTH on a PC. It hasn't sunk in yet. Are >>> you using app to mean program or are you using it differently from
program?
In my opinion, "app" is just a shorter way of saying "application", and
again in my opinion, the difference between "application" and "program"
is that "program" is a general term for software.
Any piece of software that is written is a "program" of some kind, and
an "application" is a particular kind of program that is created for a
computer user to perform some task.
Probably a good way of determining age/experience; people who have been >around since card-punch days probably talk about programs and look upon
the app-people as children.
I looked for a free app without ads that shared the clipboard between
Windows & Android and a few came up if clipboard sharing is needed.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 4 Feb 2024 11:00:21 -0800, The Real
Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/4/24 10:14 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-03 09:19, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 3 Feb 2024 01:57:31 -0600, kelown
<kelown@privacy.invalid> wrote:
===============
I am not interested in synchronizing files between my Android and PC. I >>>> was discussing the automatic copy/paste of text between my Android and >>>> Windows laptop, and the possibility of running Android apps on my
Windows laptop.
Someone in this or another group tried to teach me about the difference >>> between an app and a program, BOTH on a PC. It hasn't sunk in yet. Are >>> you using app to mean program or are you using it differently from
program?
In my opinion, "app" is just a shorter way of saying "application", and
again in my opinion, the difference between "application" and "program"
is that "program" is a general term for software.
Any piece of software that is written is a "program" of some kind, and
an "application" is a particular kind of program that is created for a
computer user to perform some task.
Probably a good way of determining age/experience; people who have been >around since card-punch days probably talk about programs and look upon
the app-people as children.
Well, I felt that way and now that I know there is no difference, I feel
that way again.
someone, somewhere tutored me IIUC that there was an important
difference, and if I find the post again, I'll argue with him.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 3 Feb 2024 16:00:06 +0100, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-02-03 15:15, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 19:30:23 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-02-02 16:53, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 02 Feb 2024 10:01:46 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
But this tool requires the phone to be running, whereas the whatsapp app >>>> (or the equivalent on the web browser) do not.
Yes, but on the off-chance that someone might want to call us most of
us don't switch our phones off.
But specifically the OP does.
Yes, and I appreciate the personal attention. And your passing remark
was enlightening: "But this tool requires the phone to be running,
whereas the whatsapp app (or the equivalent on the web browser) do not."
I had not yet thought there might be a webpage that worked, and if I
had, I would have thought the phone had to be on, like with the windows program, but by golly, it works, and in Firefox*** too (https://blog.whatsapp.com/whats-app-web pushed Chrome.) I think I
could even saw it loading the new messages I had gotten since last I
looked (nothing important).
(I would have thought the equivalent of the whatsapp app was the
whatsapp program, the separate one, and that it would be more powerful
than the whatsapp webpage, but it's the opposite.)
This is so great! Now I don't have to turn the phone on. And it's
much easier to do housekeeping, like reading old chats and deleting
them. (The mouse and keyboard are easier than on the phone.)
And I can probably make calls using my laptops microphone and camera.
And I've added a microphone to the desktop too. (Already has a camera, I usually turn both cameras off in Device Manager.) No more having to
hold the phone!
I've already put a "shortcut" on the new-tab page.
I no longer see much use for the separate whatapp program except that it shows badges when I get a call or message, so I've moved that to the top
line of the taskbar, where I'll see it. My nephew and his wife are
back in Peru now, so one of them may call.
***Firefox currently has one weakness for which Chrome is better. You
can't use a microphone to talk into google translate, but you can with
Chrome on the PC.
Not a big problem since usually I'm out and relying
on the phone when I would use it, where it works great by the way. Also
from Spanish. There were several people who IMO slurred their Spanish
words together or dropped the final consonants so I couldn't come close
to understanding them, but Google translate via microphone did. Every
time. Incredible.
In LIvingston, Guatemala, even the men who had to get their water at the
pila (I think they say pila for pileta**, where they have a big pool of
water and cement washboards for doing laundry, plus a 2" pipe with water coming out. . Only saw this in one town. They carry it home in what
looked like 10gallon plastic cans.
Even though I guess they had no
running water, at least 4 of them had smart phones. So just about
everyone was used to google translate. (One older woman ignored the
phone when I put it in front of her, but everyone else used it to get
English for me. OTOH, I only needed it for unusual words.)
**Even though google translate doesn't list pila to mean pool.
At home. I can always start Chrome on rare occasions when I want to use
the microphone to imput words to translate.
Short answer. "No."
WhatsApp uses a Jabber ID. The Jabber ID just happens to be a telecom phone number.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 4 Feb 2024 11:00:21 -0800, The Real
Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/4/24 10:14 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-03 09:19, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 3 Feb 2024 01:57:31 -0600, kelown >>>>> <kelown@privacy.invalid> wrote:
=============== >>>>>> Windows laptop.
I am not interested in synchronizing files between my Android and PC. I >>>>>> was discussing the automatic copy/paste of text between my Android and >>>>>> Windows laptop, and the possibility of running Android apps on my
Someone in this or another group tried to teach me about the difference >>>>> between an app and a program, BOTH on a PC. It hasn't sunk in yet. Are >>>>> you using app to mean program or are you using it differently from
program?
In my opinion, "app" is just a shorter way of saying "application", and >>>> again in my opinion, the difference between "application" and "program" >>>> is that "program" is a general term for software.
Any piece of software that is written is a "program" of some kind, and >>>> an "application" is a particular kind of program that is created for a >>>> computer user to perform some task.
Probably a good way of determining age/experience; people who have been >>> around since card-punch days probably talk about programs and look upon
the app-people as children.
Well, I felt that way and now that I know there is no difference, I feel
that way again.
someone, somewhere tutored me IIUC that there was an important
difference, and if I find the post again, I'll argue with him.
On *Windows* - this thread is crossposted to Android and Windows
groups -, there *is* a big difference between regular 'old' style
Windows programs and 'new' style UWP/Metro/Modern/<whatever> apps.
It's not so much on the outside, but internally, how the software is developed, how it is installed, where it is stored, etc., etc..
In general, Windows apps were and often still are more limited in functionality than Windows programs. Often, there is no real need for
that, but that's what Microsoft decided in their infinite wisdom, is A
Good Thing (TM).
On the Windows 10/11 Start menu and Settings menu, Microsoft calls everything 'Apps', but in Control Panel -> Programs, also they still
talk about programs (not apps) and only list the programs on your
system, not the apps.
If you have a third-party Start menu like Classic Start Menu,
Open-Shell Menu, etc., it probably makes the distinction for you. For
example Open-Shell Menu has a menu item for 'Programs' and another one
for 'Apps'. Wonder why *that* is!? :-) Probably they don't know either
what they're talking about, so if you want a candidate to "argue with", there's your chance! :-)
Bottom line: You don't have to make a distinction and most of the time saying 'app' is fine - if you don't mind looking a bit silly in a
Windows group, when you're actually referring to a program/non-app -,
but please do not "argue with" people who *do* know the difference.
On 2024-02-03 18:15, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 3 Feb 2024 16:00:06 +0100, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-02-03 15:15, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 19:30:23 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-02-02 16:53, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 02 Feb 2024 10:01:46 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
...
But this tool requires the phone to be running, whereas the whatsapp app >>>>> (or the equivalent on the web browser) do not.
Yes, but on the off-chance that someone might want to call us most of
us don't switch our phones off.
But specifically the OP does.
Yes, and I appreciate the personal attention. And your passing remark
was enlightening: "But this tool requires the phone to be running,
whereas the whatsapp app (or the equivalent on the web browser) do not."
Welcome :-)
I had not yet thought there might be a webpage that worked, and if I
had, I would have thought the phone had to be on, like with the windows
program, but by golly, it works, and in Firefox*** too
(https://blog.whatsapp.com/whats-app-web pushed Chrome.) I think I
could even saw it loading the new messages I had gotten since last I
looked (nothing important).
(I would have thought the equivalent of the whatsapp app was the
whatsapp program, the separate one, and that it would be more powerful
than the whatsapp webpage, but it's the opposite.)
This is so great! Now I don't have to turn the phone on. And it's
much easier to do housekeeping, like reading old chats and deleting
them. (The mouse and keyboard are easier than on the phone.)
And I can probably make calls using my laptops microphone and camera.
And I've added a microphone to the desktop too. (Already has a camera, I
usually turn both cameras off in Device Manager.) No more having to
hold the phone!
I've already put a "shortcut" on the new-tab page.
I no longer see much use for the separate whatapp program except that it
shows badges when I get a call or message, so I've moved that to the top
line of the taskbar, where I'll see it. My nephew and his wife are
back in Peru now, so one of them may call.
***Firefox currently has one weakness for which Chrome is better. You
can't use a microphone to talk into google translate, but you can with
Chrome on the PC.
This may be Google's fault. They do mention that FF doesn't have all the >features. Google can recode Chrome to better support their own web apps.
Not a big problem since usually I'm out and relying
on the phone when I would use it, where it works great by the way. Also
from Spanish. There were several people who IMO slurred their Spanish
words together or dropped the final consonants so I couldn't come close
to understanding them, but Google translate via microphone did. Every
time. Incredible.
In LIvingston, Guatemala, even the men who had to get their water at the
pila (I think they say pila for pileta**, where they have a big pool of
water and cement washboards for doing laundry, plus a 2" pipe with water
coming out. . Only saw this in one town. They carry it home in what
looked like 10gallon plastic cans.
Yes, I saw this in Spain when I was a kid in remote villages. Not
plastic, but old earthenware. Heavy. At some time, it wall everywhere
like this.
Even though I guess they had no
running water, at least 4 of them had smart phones. So just about
everyone was used to google translate. (Oneolder woman ignored the
phone when I put it in front of her, but everyone else used it to get
English for me. OTOH, I only needed it for unusual words.)
Yeah, that is funny. Modern and old mixed.
**Even though google translate doesn't list pila to mean pool.
At home. I can always start Chrome on rare occasions when I want to use
the microphone to imput words to translate.
On 2024-02-02 16:53, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 02 Feb 2024 10:01:46 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
I thought I was installing Whatsapp on my PC just because that one
airline insisted on my using it, but it turns out it's a really good
thing.
PC/Android users can use any app on the PC by installing Phone Link on
the PC and activating it on the phone. I find it very useful under the
conditions you described. If I connected a microphone I could answer
and make phone calls via the PC. Doesn't work if you switch the phone
off though.
(Similar capabilities are available on Apple devices but I don't know
anything about them.)
But this tool requires the phone to be running, whereas the whatsapp app
(or the equivalent on the web browser) do not.
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