• How to encrypt a file

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 29 19:48:41 2024
    How to store important data while traveling where a burglar or robber
    won't be able to read it.

    I'm going on vacation for 19 days, and the odds of being robbed are
    slim, but everyone says that Guatamala has more than the usual amount of
    crime, breaking into cars, armed robbery, stealing the whole car? So
    security is an issue when it never was on other trips, (no more than
    whne the computer sits at home).

    On an average day, I don't need to access any of this stuff but one day
    out of 4 or 8, I need one of them. (A couple I know by heart, so I will
    need the other ones.

    I am pretty good but not great technically, and I'm lazy. I was just
    going to copy all the important information to paper and delete it from
    the computer, but I don't know where to hide the paper.

    So maybe I should leave it on the computer but encrypt it.

    Any suggestions on how to encrypt the following:
    I have a file with a lot of notes, phone numbers, addresses, etc.
    and, in obscured form, my credit card information: numbers, exp. dates,
    and the 3 digit codes.
    I also have a Eudora email mailbox, mbx and toc files, with the
    passwords for all my websites. Most are unimportant, like toyotanation,
    but some are bank accounts, etc. I think I will move all the important
    ones to their own mailbox, or even to one big text file. Which is
    better?

    There are websites that do encryption but I don't want them seeing my
    bank account passwords either.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Jan 30 02:29:27 2024
    micky wrote on Mon, 29 Jan 2024 19:48:41 -0500 :

    There are websites that do encryption but I don't want them seeing my
    bank account passwords either.

    There are probably thousands of answers, but most people do this.

    1. On Android/Windows/Linux/Mac/iOS they use VeraCrypt to create
    an encrypted container file where you can store anything inside.

    2. However, if it's mostly just a password (and not much else, although it
    has the capability of attaching files & notes), they use KeepassXC.

    Most people store that file on their sd card (for easy portability),
    but if they want to make it available on the net, then most people would
    opt for attaching an encrypted flash drive to their modern router. https://www.netgear.com/support/product/readyshare_usb_storage_access

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Jan 29 23:18:37 2024
    On 1/29/2024 7:48 PM, micky wrote:
    How to store important data while traveling where a burglar or robber
    won't be able to read it.

    I'm going on vacation for 19 days, and the odds of being robbed are
    slim, but everyone says that Guatamala has more than the usual amount of crime, breaking into cars, armed robbery, stealing the whole car? So security is an issue when it never was on other trips, (no more than
    whne the computer sits at home).

    On an average day, I don't need to access any of this stuff but one day
    out of 4 or 8, I need one of them. (A couple I know by heart, so I will
    need the other ones.

    I am pretty good but not great technically, and I'm lazy. I was just
    going to copy all the important information to paper and delete it from
    the computer, but I don't know where to hide the paper.

    So maybe I should leave it on the computer but encrypt it.

    Any suggestions on how to encrypt the following:
    I have a file with a lot of notes, phone numbers, addresses, etc.
    and, in obscured form, my credit card information: numbers, exp. dates,
    and the 3 digit codes.
    I also have a Eudora email mailbox, mbx and toc files, with the
    passwords for all my websites. Most are unimportant, like toyotanation,
    but some are bank accounts, etc. I think I will move all the important
    ones to their own mailbox, or even to one big text file. Which is
    better?

    There are websites that do encryption but I don't want them seeing my
    bank account passwords either.


    Win10Pro has Bitlocker. Win10Home has not.

    Remove the hard drive currently in the laptop, fit a clean one.
    Set up Bitlocker encryption, copy over assets in a controlled fashion.

    The thing is, if you were worried about files, you should be worried about
    the temporary copies stored in whitespace. Any housekeeping should be done before encryption.

    sdelete.exe -z C: # clean whitespace a bit, not a perfect solution

    You should not carry assets that you cannot afford to lose.

    Since Windows leaks like a sieve, the clean hard drive is to try to
    take care of forensically recoverable material.

    *******

    With Bitlocker, you need to make a recovery key for when you can't get in.
    And that has to be stored somewhere.

    manage-bde.exe -status # check crypto state

    manage-bde.exe # dumps the help, shows a command at the bottom of interest

    A few users here, have been surprised to find their C: is already encrypted. That is why running the first command, for curiosity sake, is recommended.
    You never want a surprise like that (not knowing what is going on with your PC).
    Like if your disk has a failure, and the repair guy says "you know, this
    disk looks like garbage", that could be the reason!

    Other encryption solutions have the advantage, that it does not
    matter what SKU of Windows you are using.

    To boot a Windows computer, some of the disk has to be unencrypted,
    so the starting process can take place. That would be a separate partition doing the booting. The C: on the other hand, can then be completely
    encrypted. This is when "those extra partitions" may play a part
    in the solution.

    Paul

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  • From Auric__@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Jan 30 06:23:43 2024
    micky wrote:

    How to store important data while traveling where a burglar or robber
    won't be able to read it.

    I'm going on vacation for 19 days, and the odds of being robbed are
    slim, but everyone says that Guatamala has more than the usual amount of crime, breaking into cars, armed robbery, stealing the whole car? So security is an issue when it never was on other trips, (no more than
    whne the computer sits at home).

    On an average day, I don't need to access any of this stuff but one day
    out of 4 or 8, I need one of them. (A couple I know by heart, so I will
    need the other ones.

    I am pretty good but not great technically, and I'm lazy. I was just
    going to copy all the important information to paper and delete it from
    the computer, but I don't know where to hide the paper.

    So maybe I should leave it on the computer but encrypt it.

    Any suggestions on how to encrypt the following:
    I have a file with a lot of notes, phone numbers, addresses, etc.
    and, in obscured form, my credit card information: numbers, exp. dates,
    and the 3 digit codes.
    I also have a Eudora email mailbox, mbx and toc files, with the
    passwords for all my websites. Most are unimportant, like toyotanation,
    but some are bank accounts, etc. I think I will move all the important
    ones to their own mailbox, or even to one big text file. Which is
    better?

    There are websites that do encryption but I don't want them seeing my
    bank account passwords either.

    You could always just put them in an encrypted .zip file.

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    adventure. In our profession, it usually comes looking for us.

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to not.my.real@email.address on Tue Jan 30 10:18:33 2024
    In message <XnsB108EDFD1FC03auricauricauricauric@135.181.20.170>,
    Auric__ <not.my.real@email.address> writes
    micky wrote:

    How to store important data while traveling where a burglar or robber
    won't be able to read it.
    <snip>

    You could always just put them in an encrypted .zip file.


    My thought too. That should be enough to defeat an ordinary robber, who
    doesn't have unusual IT expertise and who doesn't want to put in a lot
    of time and effort for doubtful rewards.
    --
    John Hall
    "Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
    from coughing."
    Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Tue Jan 30 11:10:17 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 29 Jan 2024 19:48:41 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    How to store important data while traveling where a burglar or robber
    won't be able to read it.

    An interesting topic, but this was posted by accident. I started it
    before I left on the trip and planned to finish it later. In an effort
    to send emails that didn't work in Guatemala, I ended up sending any
    email that had not been sent going back at least 3 years, and posting
    any post that had not yet been posted. All with one click of the mouse.

    I'm going on vacation for 19 days, and the odds of being robbed are
    slim, but everyone says that Guatamala has more than the usual amount of >crime, breaking into cars, armed robbery, stealing the whole car? So >security is an issue when it never was on other trips, (no more than
    whne the computer sits at home).

    Guatemala was fine. There is crime here too but it has no impact on
    me. If there were 2 or 3x as much crime, I still would not notice it.

    I ended up using LibreOffice Writer, and assigning a the same password
    to two files, plus deleting my Paypal password from password memory.

    On an average day, I don't need to access any of this stuff but one day
    out of 4 or 8, I need one of them. (A couple I know by heart, so I will
    need the other ones.

    I am pretty good but not great technically, and I'm lazy. I was just
    going to copy all the important information to paper and delete it from
    the computer, but I don't know where to hide the paper.

    So maybe I should leave it on the computer but encrypt it.

    Any suggestions on how to encrypt the following:
    I have a file with a lot of notes, phone numbers, addresses, etc.
    and, in obscured form, my credit card information: numbers, exp. dates,
    and the 3 digit codes.
    I also have a Eudora email mailbox, mbx and toc files, with the
    passwords for all my websites. Most are unimportant, like toyotanation,
    but some are bank accounts, etc. I think I will move all the important
    ones to their own mailbox, or even to one big text file. Which is
    better?

    There are websites that do encryption but I don't want them seeing my
    bank account passwords either.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to john_nospam@jhall.co.uk on Tue Jan 30 11:06:24 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 30 Jan 2024 10:18:33 +0000, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <XnsB108EDFD1FC03auricauricauricauric@135.181.20.170>,
    Auric__ <not.my.real@email.address> writes
    micky wrote:

    How to store important data while traveling where a burglar or robber
    won't be able to read it.
    <snip>

    You could always just put them in an encrypted .zip file.


    My thought too. That should be enough to defeat an ordinary robber, who >doesn't have unusual IT expertise and who doesn't want to put in a lot
    of time and effort for doubtful rewards.

    That's what I ended up doing. LibreOffice Writer has an option when
    saving, a checkbox below the file name iirc, that will encrypt the file.
    To get it back, just click on it in a file manager abd put in your
    password.

    I extracted from one mailbox all the items dealing with money, and
    made a one line entry for each, which I saved, encrypted.
    And I extracted one "email" where I keep notes about everything
    including credit cards and made that another file similarly.
    I deleted the saved password for paypal.

    I should not have said what I did about crime in Guatemala. I personally noticed none of it, and there were times I walked around at night,
    except I read about the murder of a woman 9 months ago. 10 years ago
    there was a big spurt of crime but it's tapered off a lot, and mostly
    would be pickpockets at crowded tourist areas or on crowded chicken
    buses, and some robberies, maybe armed robberies, outside of bars. I
    don't go to bars. Not only that, January is the quietest month in
    Guatemala, that is, fewest tourists, which is strange since it's
    probably the coldest month in the USA. It is always 51 to 80 in
    Guatemala, night and day. Even at Rio Dulce and Livingston, which are
    at sea level, it was not very hot. And even the cheapest hotel rooms
    have AC or a fan. And the summer months are the rainy ones. I only
    saw in 21 days an hour of light rain. My hotels with bath cost between
    $23 and 70. There are Marriots for over 100, but I was trying to save
    money and partially recreate my first trip, 53 years ago.

    So it really was not especially needed to to encrypt the stuff I did,
    but OTOH, I should do that wherever I go, crime or not. Always possible
    to lose the laptop. My credit card numbers are in it, disguised as
    phone numbers, with 2-letter labels. I think a hacker would not find
    them, but a guy with the whole laptop might.

    The car was the most expensive, the insurance was more than the car
    itself. IIRC 1400 dollars for 21 days, for a subcompact, I think, a
    toyota yaris**, although it was plenty big enough. Traffic is terrible, streets are very narrow, hills and curves constantly outside of the
    cities, they weave in and out and must have come within 2 inches of my
    car many times. Yet, I got not a scratch, they refunded my full $650
    deposit. (The insurance covered dents but not scratches!) I drove 1200
    miles in 21 days.

    Because streets in Guatemala City and elsewhere are old and narrow and
    often one-way, using google navigation saves enormous time. Might drive
    around for hours without it. Of course that worked even before I got a
    local sim card. Recommend Claro instead of Tigo, or maybe roaming is
    not that expensive, I thought it was.

    Gas was I think a little cheaper than here. Electricity is 110v with
    the same receptacles as the US. All were 3-prong. I brought a 15 foot
    extension cord and a 10 foot charging cable so in one room with only a receptacle in the bathroom, I still had length enough to reach anywhere.
    I think new extension cords use heavier insulation than in the 60's so I
    bring an extension cord I've had since then. Lamp cord with replaced
    ends. I brought a 3-prong to 2-prong converter for the laptop power
    supply, but I forgot and brought a new one, where I had not ground down
    the wide prong to make it narrow enough for the old extension cord.
    Fortunately it still went into the narrow end of the cord, with the
    ground plug sticking out. And there was still room on the sides for the
    phone charger and the provided fan, in the room that had only one
    receptacle.

    Should have bought and brought a fast phone charger. Didn't appreciate
    that until this trip. But I always had enough except one time I had to
    stop reading the news at dinner.

    Set Free Alarm Clock when I had to be up, and used Multitimer (url on
    request), to turn the sound and screen off with a 2-hour timer when
    falling asleep. It has other features too.


    **What the heck is a yaris.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to nospam@needed.invalid on Tue Jan 30 11:29:22 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 29 Jan 2024 23:18:37 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:



    The thing is, if you were worried about files, you should be worried about >the temporary copies stored in whitespace.

    I did think about that, but toook refuge in that a) the average thief
    doesn't know about whitespace, b) drives are so big now you can't scroll through, and c) I only owe iirc $50 if it's my fault and nothing if I
    report a stolen credit card quickly.

    Any housekeeping should be done
    before encryption.

    sdelete.exe -z C: # clean whitespace a bit, not a perfect solution

    Good to know.

    You should not carry assets that you cannot afford to lose.

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