• Keep the cursor away from the edge of the screen

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 27 22:46:50 2024
    Is there a program or something that will keep the cursor away from the
    edge of the screen?

    I have a desktop and laptop that I've started to run at the same time,
    all the time, and someone here suggested Synergy. When it works it's
    very good, but frequently the cursor gets trapped in one monitor or the
    other.

    When it's the monitor without a keyboard, I can't do too much. When
    it's other one, I can't do some of the things I want.

    This is bad enough when I intentionally go to the other monitor, but
    often I move the cursor to, say, the vertical scroll bar, and I go too
    far and it easily goes to the other monitor and then wno't go back. It
    can easily take 5 minutes, or more, to get it back.

    So maybe there is a fence I could turn on and off??

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Jan 28 11:45:40 2024
    micky wrote:
    Is there a program or something that will keep the cursor away from the
    edge of the screen?

    I have a desktop and laptop that I've started to run at the same time,
    all the time, and someone here suggested Synergy. When it works it's
    very good, but frequently the cursor gets trapped in one monitor or the other.

    When it's the monitor without a keyboard, I can't do too much. When
    it's other one, I can't do some of the things I want.

    This is bad enough when I intentionally go to the other monitor, but
    often I move the cursor to, say, the vertical scroll bar, and I go too
    far and it easily goes to the other monitor and then wno't go back. It
    can easily take 5 minutes, or more, to get it back.

    So maybe there is a fence I could turn on and off??

    I use dual monitors under Win10. I find that the native display settings
    handle the two well enough, and the cursor runs smoothly between them.

    If it doesn't work for you try:
    https://www.displayfusion.com/Download/

    Ed

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Jan 28 12:59:54 2024
    micky wrote:

    Is there a program or something that will keep the cursor away from the
    edge of the screen?

    How would that work if there was something you wanted to click near the
    edge?

    I have a desktop and laptop that I've started to run at the same time,
    all the time, and someone here suggested Synergy. When it works it's
    very good, but frequently the cursor gets trapped in one monitor or the other.

    Add a keyboard shortcut to "jump" to each screen?

    <https://symless.com/synergy/help/add-a-hotkey-or-keyboard-shortcut-to-change-to-different-screens>

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  • From Peter Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 28 13:39:30 2024
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:46:50 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
    wrote:

    Is there a program or something that will keep the cursor away from the
    edge of the screen?

    I have a desktop and laptop that I've started to run at the same time,
    all the time, and someone here suggested Synergy. When it works it's
    very good, but frequently the cursor gets trapped in one monitor or the >other.

    When it's the monitor without a keyboard, I can't do too much. When
    it's other one, I can't do some of the things I want.

    This is bad enough when I intentionally go to the other monitor, but
    often I move the cursor to, say, the vertical scroll bar, and I go too
    far and it easily goes to the other monitor and then wno't go back. It
    can easily take 5 minutes, or more, to get it back.

    So maybe there is a fence I could turn on and off??

    I don'y know if this will do what you want, but try a right click on
    the PC screen and select Display settings.
    If both screens are shown make sure 'Ease cursor movement between
    displays' is not selected.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun Jan 28 14:36:19 2024
    Andy Burns wrote:

    I presume with Synergy, that windows is blissfully
    ^^^
    unaware
    of the second monitor?

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Peter Johnson on Sun Jan 28 14:26:10 2024
    Peter Johnson wrote:

    I don'y know if this will do what you want, but try a right click on
    the PC screen and select Display settings.
    If both screens are shown make sure 'Ease cursor movement between
    displays' is not selected.

    I almost fell into the trap of thinking micky was using "normal"
    multi-monitor setup, and might need to adjust their relative positions
    in the GUI, but I presume with Synergy, that windows is blissfully of
    the second monitor?

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 28 17:03:15 2024
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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Burns on Sun Jan 28 16:02:06 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 28 Jan 2024 14:26:10 +0000, Andy
    Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Peter Johnson wrote:

    I don'y know if this will do what you want, but try a right click on
    the PC screen and select Display settings.
    If both screens are shown make sure 'Ease cursor movement between
    displays' is not selected.

    I almost fell into the trap of thinking micky was using "normal"

    Are you suggesting there is a normal multi-monitor set up that doesn't
    require added software? It wouldn't be the first time people were sold something they didn't need just for a couple extra unneeded features.

    multi-monitor setup, and might need to adjust their relative positions
    in the GUI, but I presume with Synergy, that windows is blissfully of
    the second monitor?

    If extra software is indeed needed, right now, I've almost given up on Synergy**. But I find there are a lot of other suggestions at https://en.softonic.com/top/virtual-kvm-software .

    I just want to use one mouse and one keyboard to control 2 computers
    each with its own monitor. Sharing sound might be nice but so far is unimportant: Maybe some day 3 computers.

    Anyone have any feelings or info, pro or con, about any of these 6?

    across

    Multiplicity

    Input Director

    Barrier

    Win2VNC

    Share Mouse

    Mouse Without Borders -- free from MS. Tried it first, didn't work well
    on my setup but continues to start in one of my computers and using
    Anvir Task Manager, I still can't find what is starting it. Anvir has a
    startup section and it's not listed. ;-(

    Synergy. Works well when it works, but that's only about half the time.
    And their support I find to be non-supporting in many ways, and helpful
    not at all. Details on request.

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  • From Char Jackson@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Jan 29 00:02:27 2024
    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 16:02:06 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    I just want to use one mouse and one keyboard to control 2 computers
    each with its own monitor. Sharing sound might be nice but so far is >unimportant: Maybe some day 3 computers.

    It's an ideal use case for virtual machines, but I know you don't want to do that. I forgot why, but that's OK. You'd be able to use one mouse and one keyboard to control 2 computers, each with its own display.

    I currently have about 175 virtual machines, but the number varies from week to week. I tend to run 4-6 at any given time, but sometimes I need to run more than
    20 to simulate a customer network. Your requirement to run just 2 or 3 would be easy peasy.

    When I run 2 VMs, each gets its own fullscreen display. When I run more than 2 VMs, the second display becomes shared.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Char Jackson on Mon Jan 29 04:34:16 2024
    On 1/29/2024 1:02 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 16:02:06 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    I just want to use one mouse and one keyboard to control 2 computers
    each with its own monitor. Sharing sound might be nice but so far is
    unimportant: Maybe some day 3 computers.

    It's an ideal use case for virtual machines, but I know you don't want to do that. I forgot why, but that's OK. You'd be able to use one mouse and one keyboard to control 2 computers, each with its own display.

    I currently have about 175 virtual machines, but the number varies from week to
    week. I tend to run 4-6 at any given time, but sometimes I need to run more than
    20 to simulate a customer network. Your requirement to run just 2 or 3 would be
    easy peasy.

    When I run 2 VMs, each gets its own fullscreen display. When I run more than 2
    VMs, the second display becomes shared.


    And whatever you do, Micky, take plenty of pictures of your adventures.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/8PHDnt2b/XEyes-on-Windows11.gif

    Windows is boring without fun projects.

    You know, Skybuck a few days ago, did a P2V on what I assume
    is his Win7 disk, and is presumably trying to run it in a VM.
    He said something about a 2TB disk that he's pulling into a VM.
    I would never try anything that big, because it takes too long
    to do maintenance on something that large. My containers
    are more like 20GB a piece.

    [Picture] Disk speed in VMs, varies a lot

    https://imgur.com/7DmVbfW

    Paul

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Jan 29 10:27:45 2024
    micky wrote:

    Are you suggesting there is a normal multi-monitor set up that doesn't require added software? It wouldn't be the first time people were sold something they didn't need just for a couple extra unneeded features.

    Yes, providing all monitors are connected to the same computer ...

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to nospam@needed.invalid on Mon Jan 29 09:37:38 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 29 Jan 2024 04:34:16 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 1/29/2024 1:02 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 16:02:06 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    I just want to use one mouse and one keyboard to control 2 computers
    each with its own monitor. Sharing sound might be nice but so far is
    unimportant: Maybe some day 3 computers.

    It's an ideal use case for virtual machines, but I know you don't want to do >> that. I forgot why, but that's OK. You'd be able to use one mouse and one
    keyboard to control 2 computers, each with its own display.

    I see. VM. You're right, there is some reason I don't want to do that
    (Extra thinking required. Not in the mood to think.), but if I can't get
    one of the add-on softwares to do what I want, I'll seriously consider
    VM. Thanks for explaining.


    I currently have about 175 virtual machines, but the number varies from week to
    week. I tend to run 4-6 at any given time, but sometimes I need to run more than
    20 to simulate a customer network. Your requirement to run just 2 or 3 would be
    easy peasy.

    When I run 2 VMs, each gets its own fullscreen display. When I run more than 2
    VMs, the second display becomes shared.


    And whatever you do, Micky, take plenty of pictures of your adventures.

    I did take quite a few pictues in Guatamala (just returned Friday night
    from 3 weeks). I hope to put them on Instagram, but who knows if I
    really will. If I do, I'll post the link here.

    If earlier I said that Guatemala was dangerous, I retract that. There
    are, I'm told, pickpockets at crowded tourist spots, and probably some
    muggings near bars late at night, but none of the places I went were
    likely to have any of that, and certainly no one bothered me. 10 years
    ago there was a noticeable "crime wave", and once the Department of
    State notices such things, it's hard for the DOS to erase them. It
    probably helped that I rented a car and didn't take crowded buses. I
    drove 1200 miles in 21 days, stayed in 9 hotels, ranging from $23/night
    to iirc $70 for the fanciest**, but all were very clean, had their own
    bathroom and a thin screen tv with remote. Two had swimming pools.

    **The room was pretty much the same but the grounds were beautiful.
    The car was expensive, largely because of the insurance, and the
    insurance was high, I presume, because traffic is terrible, the roads
    are crowded, people have to cut in or they will never get in, and
    several cars came, it seemed, within an inch of me, so that means there
    are a lot of collisions and so insurance is high. But I was attentive
    and so were the other drivers, and I actually didn't put a scratch on
    the car. The car rental was about $1400, bigger than any other cost,
    but from my pov, well worth it.
    Spirit Airlines starts off cheap but then charges extra for
    everything, including having a carry-on or changing the reservation.



    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/8PHDnt2b/XEyes-on-Windows11.gif

    Windows is boring without fun projects.

    You know, Skybuck a few days ago, did a P2V on what I assume
    is his Win7 disk, and is presumably trying to run it in a VM.
    He said something about a 2TB disk that he's pulling into a VM.
    I would never try anything that big, because it takes too long
    to do maintenance on something that large. My containers
    are more like 20GB a piece.

    [Picture] Disk speed in VMs, varies a lot

    https://imgur.com/7DmVbfW

    Paul


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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Burns on Mon Jan 29 13:56:11 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 29 Jan 2024 10:27:45 +0000, Andy
    Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    micky wrote:

    Are you suggesting there is a normal multi-monitor set up that doesn't
    require added software? It wouldn't be the first time people were sold
    something they didn't need just for a couple extra unneeded features.

    Yes, providing all monitors are connected to the same computer ...

    Ah, that I don't have. I was thinking about doing it, but now I have two computers and no more room for monitors. :-) Unless I got some
    special bracket to put one above the other, haha.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to ed@somewhere.in.the.uk on Mon Jan 29 14:00:32 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 28 Jan 2024 11:45:40 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    Is there a program or something that will keep the cursor away from the
    edge of the screen?

    I have a desktop and laptop that I've started to run at the same time,
    all the time, and someone here suggested Synergy. When it works it's
    very good, but frequently the cursor gets trapped in one monitor or the
    other.

    When it's the monitor without a keyboard, I can't do too much. When
    it's other one, I can't do some of the things I want.

    This is bad enough when I intentionally go to the other monitor, but
    often I move the cursor to, say, the vertical scroll bar, and I go too
    far and it easily goes to the other monitor and then wno't go back. It
    can easily take 5 minutes, or more, to get it back.

    So maybe there is a fence I could turn on and off??

    I use dual monitors under Win10. I find that the native display settings >handle the two well enough, and the cursor runs smoothly between them.

    If it doesn't work for you try:
    https://www.displayfusion.com/Download/

    I installed this and unlike Mouse without Borders and Synergy, neither
    computer knew about the other computer's monitor. I'm still trying to understand the install instructions. I've added the other monitor to
    each Settings screen, but until it decides that they are on the same
    network, it's not going to let themshare a mouse, and it doesn't seem to
    know anything about my local network. I'll keep trying and, no
    promises, let you know.

    Ed

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Burns on Mon Jan 29 14:04:58 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 28 Jan 2024 12:59:54 +0000, Andy
    Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    micky wrote:

    Is there a program or something that will keep the cursor away from the
    edge of the screen?

    How would that work if there was something you wanted to click near the
    edge?

    I figure the people who write this stuff are smarter than I am. Or, it
    would let me get quite close to the edge, but stop me 2 pixels from it,
    and anything I need would be 3 pixels or more away from t he edge.

    Using Synergy, my cursor has often gotten trapped in one monitor or the
    other. None of their Reconnecting or Troubleshooting is any help 95% of
    the time, so I just use the mouse to bang the cursor against edge of the monitor screen. Often this works in under 10 tries but I've slammed it
    over 40 times with no success.

    I have a desktop and laptop that I've started to run at the same time,
    all the time, and someone here suggested Synergy. When it works it's
    very good, but frequently the cursor gets trapped in one monitor or the
    other.

    Add a keyboard shortcut to "jump" to each screen?

    <https://symless.com/synergy/help/add-a-hotkey-or-keyboard-shortcut-to-change-to-different-screens>

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Jan 29 19:27:33 2024
    micky wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    micky wrote:

    Are you suggesting there is a normal multi-monitor set up that doesn't
    require added software?

    Yes, providing all monitors are connected to the same computer ...

    Ah, that I don't have. I was thinking about doing it, but now I have two computers and no more room for monitors.

    If both monitors were both connected to one computer, you could run a full-screen remote session to the other computer, but only you know what
    would work for you ...

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Johnson on Mon Jan 29 14:28:45 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 28 Jan 2024 13:39:30 +0000, Peter
    Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:46:50 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
    wrote:

    Is there a program or something that will keep the cursor away from the >>edge of the screen?

    I have a desktop and laptop that I've started to run at the same time,
    all the time, and someone here suggested Synergy. When it works it's
    very good, but frequently the cursor gets trapped in one monitor or the >>other.

    When it's the monitor without a keyboard, I can't do too much. When
    it's other one, I can't do some of the things I want.

    This is bad enough when I intentionally go to the other monitor, but
    often I move the cursor to, say, the vertical scroll bar, and I go too
    far and it easily goes to the other monitor and then wno't go back. It
    can easily take 5 minutes, or more, to get it back.

    So maybe there is a fence I could turn on and off??

    I don'y know if this will do what you want, but try a right click on
    the PC screen and select Display settings.
    If both screens are shown make sure 'Ease cursor movement between
    displays' is not selected.

    https://softkeys.uk/blogs/blog/how-to-move-mouse-between-two-monitors-windows-10
    says just what you say, but when I get to that setting screen, there is
    a section called Multiple Displays, but nothing about "Ease cursor
    movement between displays", not on either computer, both win10, the
    laptop win10 home, and the desktop win10 pro ((but not been fully
    updated for almost 2 years)).

    The page looks the same on the two computers, and each has a Detect
    button, but clicking "didn't detect another display". Maybe this refers
    to more than one display connected to the same PC? (Or maybe there is something wrong with my local network, because DisplayFusion hasn't
    found other monitors either.)

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Jan 29 19:32:25 2024
    micky wrote:

    when I get to that setting screen, there is a section called Multiple Displays, but nothing about "Ease cursor movement between displays",
    not on either computer

    Because each computer only has one monitor, there's nothing to ease ...

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Jan 29 20:43:03 2024
    micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 28 Jan 2024 11:45:40 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    Is there a program or something that will keep the cursor away from the
    edge of the screen?

    I have a desktop and laptop that I've started to run at the same time,
    all the time, and someone here suggested Synergy. When it works it's
    very good, but frequently the cursor gets trapped in one monitor or the
    other.

    When it's the monitor without a keyboard, I can't do too much. When
    it's other one, I can't do some of the things I want.

    This is bad enough when I intentionally go to the other monitor, but
    often I move the cursor to, say, the vertical scroll bar, and I go too
    far and it easily goes to the other monitor and then wno't go back. It
    can easily take 5 minutes, or more, to get it back.

    So maybe there is a fence I could turn on and off??

    I use dual monitors under Win10. I find that the native display settings
    handle the two well enough, and the cursor runs smoothly between them.

    If it doesn't work for you try:
    https://www.displayfusion.com/Download/

    I installed this and unlike Mouse without Borders and Synergy, neither computer knew about the other computer's monitor. I'm still trying to understand the install instructions. I've added the other monitor to
    each Settings screen, but until it decides that they are on the same
    network, it's not going to let themshare a mouse, and it doesn't seem to
    know anything about my local network. I'll keep trying and, no
    promises, let you know.

    Ed

    That requires two HDMI outlets plugged into one monitor.
    What are you trying to do?
    You seem to be attempting virtual monitoring by wireless; two
    independent Windows boxes with mutual switchable screens.

    Sounds ambitious, but laborious. And it's led you into trying to bypass
    its failings with other software.

    Step back and think where you're being led. And then re-examine the
    original problem.

    Ed

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Burns on Mon Jan 29 19:27:56 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 29 Jan 2024 19:32:25 +0000, Andy
    Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:


    micky wrote:

    when I get to that setting screen, there is a section called Multiple
    Displays, but nothing about "Ease cursor movement between displays",
    not on either computer

    Because each computer only has one monitor, there's nothing to ease ...

    Okay. It was worth a try anyhow.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to ed@somewhere.in.the.uk on Mon Jan 29 20:35:47 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 29 Jan 2024 20:43:03 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 28 Jan 2024 11:45:40 +0000, Ed Cryer
    <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    Is there a program or something that will keep the cursor away from the >>>> edge of the screen?

    I have a desktop and laptop that I've started to run at the same time, >>>> all the time, and someone here suggested Synergy. When it works it's
    very good, but frequently the cursor gets trapped in one monitor or the >>>> other.

    When it's the monitor without a keyboard, I can't do too much. When
    it's other one, I can't do some of the things I want.

    This is bad enough when I intentionally go to the other monitor, but
    often I move the cursor to, say, the vertical scroll bar, and I go too >>>> far and it easily goes to the other monitor and then wno't go back. It >>>> can easily take 5 minutes, or more, to get it back.

    So maybe there is a fence I could turn on and off??

    I use dual monitors under Win10. I find that the native display settings >>> handle the two well enough, and the cursor runs smoothly between them.

    If it doesn't work for you try:
    https://www.displayfusion.com/Download/

    I installed this and unlike Mouse without Borders and Synergy, neither
    computer knew about the other computer's monitor. I'm still trying to
    understand the install instructions. I've added the other monitor to
    each Settings screen, but until it decides that they are on the same
    network, it's not going to let themshare a mouse, and it doesn't seem to
    know anything about my local network. I'll keep trying and, no
    promises, let you know.

    Ed

    That requires two HDMI outlets plugged into one monitor.

    I certainly don't have that. Only one laptop with a built-in monitor
    and a simple Dell monitor.

    What are you trying to do?

    I have a laptop and a desktop, both using data from the same router, and
    I'm trying to use only one mouse and one keyboard for both.

    A software version of a KM switch. It would be nice to share the same clipboard, so I could copy from one monitor and paste to the other.

    You seem to be attempting virtual monitoring by wireless; two

    Not sure if that's the same thing or not.

    independent Windows boxes with mutual switchable screens.

    Not sure what mutual switchable would be.

    Sounds ambitious, but laborious. And it's led you into trying to bypass
    its failings with other software.

    Step back and think where you're being led. And then re-examine the
    original problem.

    Synergy worked well when it worked, but that was only about 1/2 the
    time. The cursor kept getting stuck in one screen or another.

    Mouse without borders worked somewhat. I forget the details.

    Display Fusion seems so complicated.

    There is also
    across
    Multiplicity
    Input Director
    Barrier
    Win2VNC and
    Share Mouse

    But I have not tried any of them yet.

    Ed



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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Burns on Mon Jan 29 20:36:52 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 29 Jan 2024 19:27:33 +0000, Andy
    Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    micky wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    micky wrote:

    Are you suggesting there is a normal multi-monitor set up that doesn't >>>> require added software?

    Yes, providing all monitors are connected to the same computer ...

    Ah, that I don't have. I was thinking about doing it, but now I have two
    computers and no more room for monitors.

    If both monitors were both connected to one computer, you could run a >full-screen remote session to the other computer, but only you know what >would work for you ...

    The goal is to use both computers at the same time, and maybe a third at
    the same time as the first two some day in the distant future.

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Jan 30 11:46:54 2024
    micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 29 Jan 2024 20:43:03 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 28 Jan 2024 11:45:40 +0000, Ed Cryer
    <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    Is there a program or something that will keep the cursor away from the >>>>> edge of the screen?

    I have a desktop and laptop that I've started to run at the same time, >>>>> all the time, and someone here suggested Synergy. When it works it's >>>>> very good, but frequently the cursor gets trapped in one monitor or the >>>>> other.

    When it's the monitor without a keyboard, I can't do too much. When >>>>> it's other one, I can't do some of the things I want.

    This is bad enough when I intentionally go to the other monitor, but >>>>> often I move the cursor to, say, the vertical scroll bar, and I go too >>>>> far and it easily goes to the other monitor and then wno't go back. It >>>>> can easily take 5 minutes, or more, to get it back.

    So maybe there is a fence I could turn on and off??

    I use dual monitors under Win10. I find that the native display settings >>>> handle the two well enough, and the cursor runs smoothly between them. >>>>
    If it doesn't work for you try:
    https://www.displayfusion.com/Download/

    I installed this and unlike Mouse without Borders and Synergy, neither
    computer knew about the other computer's monitor. I'm still trying to
    understand the install instructions. I've added the other monitor to
    each Settings screen, but until it decides that they are on the same
    network, it's not going to let themshare a mouse, and it doesn't seem to >>> know anything about my local network. I'll keep trying and, no
    promises, let you know.

    Ed

    That requires two HDMI outlets plugged into one monitor.

    I certainly don't have that. Only one laptop with a built-in monitor
    and a simple Dell monitor.

    What are you trying to do?

    I have a laptop and a desktop, both using data from the same router, and
    I'm trying to use only one mouse and one keyboard for both.

    A software version of a KM switch. It would be nice to share the same clipboard, so I could copy from one monitor and paste to the other.

    You seem to be attempting virtual monitoring by wireless; two

    Not sure if that's the same thing or not.

    independent Windows boxes with mutual switchable screens.

    Not sure what mutual switchable would be.

    Sounds ambitious, but laborious. And it's led you into trying to bypass
    its failings with other software.

    Step back and think where you're being led. And then re-examine the
    original problem.

    Synergy worked well when it worked, but that was only about 1/2 the
    time. The cursor kept getting stuck in one screen or another.

    Mouse without borders worked somewhat. I forget the details.

    Display Fusion seems so complicated.

    There is also
    across
    Multiplicity
    Input Director
    Barrier
    Win2VNC and
    Share Mouse

    But I have not tried any of them yet.

    Ed



    Try ShareMouse first. I hear good things about it.

    Ed

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  • From Sten deJoode@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu Feb 1 01:20:23 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.microsoft.windows

    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 12:59:54 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

    How would that work if there was something you wanted to click near the
    edge?

    I set up dual monitors long ago but there are two switches I remember
    setting so that the taskbar didn't move & windows didn't jump around.

    One is to disable snap to window boundaries using Windows+I key settings.
    Win+I > Settings > System > Multitasking > Snap windows = off

    That turns off all three actions
    1. When I snap a windows, automatically size it to fill available space
    2. When I snap a window, show what I can snap next to it
    3. When I resize a snapped window, simultaneously resize any adjacent
    snapped window

    I forget what that second thing was though.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to deJoode on Thu Feb 1 11:41:05 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.microsoft.windows

    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 1 Feb 2024 01:20:23 -0500, Sten
    deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> wrote:

    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 12:59:54 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

    How would that work if there was something you wanted to click near the
    edge?

    I set up dual monitors long ago but there are two switches I remember
    setting so that the taskbar didn't move & windows didn't jump around.

    One is to disable snap to window boundaries using Windows+I key settings. >Win+I > Settings > System > Multitasking > Snap windows = off

    That turns off all three actions
    1. When I snap a windows, automatically size it to fill available space
    2. When I snap a window, show what I can snap next to it
    3. When I resize a snapped window, simultaneously resize any adjacent
    snapped window

    Thanks. Several of the software programs I looked at mentioned
    snapping interference, but I still didn't know what snapping was or how
    to turn it off. You've explained all that.

    I forget what that second thing was though.

    That's okay. I can't have everything.

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Feb 1 18:42:34 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.microsoft.windows

    micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 1 Feb 2024 01:20:23 -0500, Sten
    deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> wrote:

    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 12:59:54 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

    How would that work if there was something you wanted to click near the
    edge?

    I set up dual monitors long ago but there are two switches I remember
    setting so that the taskbar didn't move & windows didn't jump around.

    One is to disable snap to window boundaries using Windows+I key settings.
    Win+I > Settings > System > Multitasking > Snap windows = off

    That turns off all three actions
    1. When I snap a windows, automatically size it to fill available space
    2. When I snap a window, show what I can snap next to it
    3. When I resize a snapped window, simultaneously resize any adjacent
    snapped window

    Thanks. Several of the software programs I looked at mentioned
    snapping interference, but I still didn't know what snapping was or how
    to turn it off. You've explained all that.

    I forget what that second thing was though.

    That's okay. I can't have everything.

    Did this work for you?
    I keep it off. Was yours on?
    This strikes me as a very likely culprit with your problem.

    Ed

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to ed@somewhere.in.the.uk on Thu Feb 1 16:20:49 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.microsoft.windows

    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 1 Feb 2024 18:42:34 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 1 Feb 2024 01:20:23 -0500, Sten
    deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> wrote:

    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 12:59:54 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

    How would that work if there was something you wanted to click near the >>>> edge?

    I set up dual monitors long ago but there are two switches I remember
    setting so that the taskbar didn't move & windows didn't jump around.

    One is to disable snap to window boundaries using Windows+I key settings. >>> Win+I > Settings > System > Multitasking > Snap windows = off

    That turns off all three actions
    1. When I snap a windows, automatically size it to fill available space
    2. When I snap a window, show what I can snap next to it
    3. When I resize a snapped window, simultaneously resize any adjacent
    snapped window

    Thanks. Several of the software programs I looked at mentioned
    snapping interference, but I still didn't know what snapping was or how
    to turn it off. You've explained all that.

    I forget what that second thing was though.

    That's okay. I can't have everything.

    Did this work for you?
    I keep it off. Was yours on?
    This strikes me as a very likely culprit with your problem.

    It was on. Since I didn't know what snapping was, I didn't have a sense
    as to whther it was related to my problems with Synergy.

    But now I think I understand that having it ON makes it easier to move
    the window sides, top and bottom to full screen. I really like that. I
    like every window that can do it to be in full screen, and there are
    windows that don't want to do it, that can be the next size down but
    that can still be full screen if you move the side out as far as they
    will go.

    I've stopped trying to make Synergy or Mouse without Borders work and
    I've not tried any of the others yet. I had to get some work done and I
    put back the second keyboard.

    But later I will try again to get one of th KV programs to work, and I
    will turn off snapping to see if that makes a difference.

    Ed

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