• Re: Move a c programs files installation to the d drive

    From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Oliver on Fri Jan 5 17:49:25 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:30:10 -0700, Oliver wrote:

    Is there a program that will move an installation from the program files directory on the c drive to another directory on the d drive instead?

    It would have to do more than just copy as it has to fix the shortcuts and the registry entries and whatever else gets changed when you move programs.

    I am pretty sure there is no such general-purpose program, because it
    would have to account for ill-behaved software that contains its own
    hard-coded links to a particular install location.

    Or to put it another way, even if a general-purpose "program mover"
    existed, it could not guarantee that the program that got moved would
    still work properly in its new location.

    Reinstalling a program isn't hard. Why not just run the installer up
    to the point where you would click a button to start the install.
    (Only, don't click that button. Instead, cancel.) If the program
    gives you an option along the way to set the install location, you
    can then uninstall it from "C:\Program Files" (using the program's
    uninstaller) and install it where you wish. If it doesn't, that
    suggests that probably you'd be better off leaving it where it is.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Oliver@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 5 18:30:10 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    Is there a program that will move an installation from the program files directory on the c drive to another directory on the d drive instead?

    It would have to do more than just copy as it has to fix the shortcuts and
    the registry entries and whatever else gets changed when you move programs.

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  • From JJ@21:1/5 to Oliver on Sat Jan 6 11:12:50 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:30:10 -0700, Oliver wrote:
    Is there a program that will move an installation from the program files directory on the c drive to another directory on the d drive instead?

    It would have to do more than just copy as it has to fix the shortcuts and the registry entries and whatever else gets changed when you move programs.

    If your intention is to free up disk space in drive C:, you can move the application folder to other drive (e.g. from "C:\Program Files\My App" to "E:\Apps\MyApps"), then create a folder symlink (shortcut) in drive C: (with the same name as the original one) which points to the folder in drive D:.

    In this case, you'll still see "C:\Program Files\My App", but it's a symlink
    to a different folder. Any access to that symlink folder, will be actually
    be applied to the symlink's target folder.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Sat Jan 6 08:24:58 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    Stan Brown wrote:

    Oliver wrote:

    Is there a program that will move an installation from the program files
    directory on the c drive to another directory on the d drive instead?

    It would have to do more than just copy as it has to fix the shortcuts and >> the registry entries and whatever else gets changed when you move programs.

    I am pretty sure there is no such general-purpose program, because it
    would have to account for ill-behaved software that contains its own hard-coded links to a particular install location.

    Back in the day when Citrix WinFrame/MetaFrame was popular, an option
    before making the server live was to "rename" the server's C: drive to
    e.g. Z: so that the clients would see their local C: drive as C: on the
    server.

    The utility used for this generally did a good job of fixing up
    references in registry and .ini files from C: to Z:

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 6 15:16:17 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 11:12:50 +0700, JJ wrote:
    On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:30:10 -0700, Oliver wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    directory on the c drive to another directory on the d drive instead?

    It would have to do more than just copy as it has to fix the shortcuts and the registry entries and whatever else gets changed when you move programs.

    If your intention is to free up disk space in drive C:, you can move the application folder to other drive (e.g. from "C:\Program Files\My App" to "E:\Apps\MyApps"), then create a folder symlink (shortcut) in drive C: (with the same name as the original one) which points to the folder in drive D:.

    In this case, you'll still see "C:\Program Files\My App", but it's a symlink to a different folder. Any access to that symlink folder, will be actually
    be applied to the symlink's target folder.

    That's very smart, and I'm embarrassed that I didn't think of it
    myself. I can't think of any objections to it.

    You might need to change the "follow symlinks" setting in your backup
    program, to avoid getting the program's folder backed up in two
    places.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm on Mon Jan 8 10:13:37 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:49:25 -0800, Stan Brown
    <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:30:10 -0700, Oliver wrote:

    Is there a program that will move an installation from the program files
    directory on the c drive to another directory on the d drive instead?

    It would have to do more than just copy as it has to fix the shortcuts and >> the registry entries and whatever else gets changed when you move programs.

    I am pretty sure there is no such general-purpose program, because it
    would have to account for ill-behaved software that contains its own >hard-coded links to a particular install location.

    Or to put it another way, even if a general-purpose "program mover"
    existed, it could not guarantee that the program that got moved would
    still work properly in its new location.

    Reinstalling a program isn't hard. Why not just run the installer up
    to the point where you would click a button to start the install.
    (Only, don't click that button. Instead, cancel.) If the program
    gives you an option along the way to set the install location, you
    can then uninstall it from "C:\Program Files" (using the program's >uninstaller) and install it where you wish. If it doesn't, that
    suggests that probably you'd be better off leaving it where it is.

    I've got the same problem with a well known game that produced a "10th anniversary edition" which is very nice BUT was installed through
    Steam automatically to the C: drive. Catch is on my machine C: is the
    SSD which I've got reserved for the operating system to speed up
    operations - nothing other than the OS is supposed to be installed
    there.

    Since the game has lots of mods I'd hate to lose I now have 2
    installations - the one from Steam and the one I carefully installed
    with my favorite mods.

    Besides uninstalling everything (which would cancel my ongoing game)
    any suggestions? There are features of both versions I would hate to
    lose....

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  • From Larry Wolff@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Mon Jan 8 15:38:53 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    On 1/8/2024 1:13 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:

    I've got the same problem with a well known game

    I can't remember the name of the program which debuted around the Windows
    95 or Windows 2000 time frame, probably by Russinovich or someone like that which moved programs from where they were to where you wanted them to go.

    I think it started with "C" and it was an 8-character all-caps name.
    Anyone remember the name?

    It did exactly what the original poster is asking for.

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Tue Jan 9 10:03:30 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    On 08/01/2024 18:13, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:49:25 -0800, Stan Brown
    <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:30:10 -0700, Oliver wrote:

    Is there a program that will move an installation from the program files >>> directory on the c drive to another directory on the d drive instead?

    It would have to do more than just copy as it has to fix the shortcuts and >>> the registry entries and whatever else gets changed when you move programs. >>
    I am pretty sure there is no such general-purpose program, because it
    would have to account for ill-behaved software that contains its own
    hard-coded links to a particular install location.

    Or to put it another way, even if a general-purpose "program mover"
    existed, it could not guarantee that the program that got moved would
    still work properly in its new location.

    Reinstalling a program isn't hard. Why not just run the installer up
    to the point where you would click a button to start the install.
    (Only, don't click that button. Instead, cancel.) If the program
    gives you an option along the way to set the install location, you
    can then uninstall it from "C:\Program Files" (using the program's
    uninstaller) and install it where you wish. If it doesn't, that
    suggests that probably you'd be better off leaving it where it is.

    I've got the same problem with a well known game that produced a "10th anniversary edition" which is very nice BUT was installed through
    Steam automatically to the C: drive. Catch is on my machine C: is the
    SSD which I've got reserved for the operating system to speed up
    operations - nothing other than the OS is supposed to be installed
    there.

    Since the game has lots of mods I'd hate to lose I now have 2
    installations - the one from Steam and the one I carefully installed
    with my favorite mods.

    Besides uninstalling everything (which would cancel my ongoing game)
    any suggestions? There are features of both versions I would hate to
    lose....


    Not free ($15), but there is Application Mover from Funduc which may do
    what you require
    - https://www.funduc.com/app_mover.htm

    AOMEI Partition Assistant Professional also purports to move programmes
    - https://www.diskpart.com/articles/how-to-move-installed-programs-to-another-drive-windows-10-0725.html

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    wasbit
    -

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to wasbit on Tue Jan 9 07:21:09 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 10:03:30 +0000, wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2024 18:13, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:49:25 -0800, Stan Brown
    <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:30:10 -0700, Oliver wrote:

    Is there a program that will move an installation from the program files >>>> directory on the c drive to another directory on the d drive instead?

    It would have to do more than just copy as it has to fix the shortcuts and >>>> the registry entries and whatever else gets changed when you move programs.

    I am pretty sure there is no such general-purpose program, because it
    would have to account for ill-behaved software that contains its own
    hard-coded links to a particular install location.

    Or to put it another way, even if a general-purpose "program mover"
    existed, it could not guarantee that the program that got moved would
    still work properly in its new location.

    Reinstalling a program isn't hard. Why not just run the installer up
    to the point where you would click a button to start the install.
    (Only, don't click that button. Instead, cancel.) If the program
    gives you an option along the way to set the install location, you
    can then uninstall it from "C:\Program Files" (using the program's
    uninstaller) and install it where you wish. If it doesn't, that
    suggests that probably you'd be better off leaving it where it is.

    I've got the same problem with a well known game that produced a "10th
    anniversary edition" which is very nice BUT was installed through
    Steam automatically to the C: drive. Catch is on my machine C: is the
    SSD which I've got reserved for the operating system to speed up
    operations - nothing other than the OS is supposed to be installed
    there.

    Since the game has lots of mods I'd hate to lose I now have 2
    installations - the one from Steam and the one I carefully installed
    with my favorite mods.

    Besides uninstalling everything (which would cancel my ongoing game)
    any suggestions? There are features of both versions I would hate to
    lose....


    Not free ($15), but there is Application Mover from Funduc which may do
    what you require
    - https://www.funduc.com/app_mover.htm

    AOMEI Partition Assistant Professional also purports to move programmes
    -
    https://www.diskpart.com/articles/how-to-move-installed-programs-to-another-drive-windows-10-0725.html


    "Purports" is the important word. I can't speak for every modern
    program, but in my experience, every such program I've tried moved
    some programs successfully and screwed up others. I wouldn't trust
    any of them.

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  • From Nic@21:1/5 to Jan K. on Wed Jan 10 07:59:15 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    On 1/10/24 7:34 AM, Jan K. wrote:
    W Mon, 8 Jan 2024 15:38:53 -0500, Larry Wolff napisal:

    I've got the same problem with a well known game

    I can't remember the name of the program which debuted around the
    Windows
    95 or Windows 2000 time frame, probably by Russinovich or someone
    like that
    which moved programs from where they were to where you wanted them to
    go.

    I think it started with "C" and it was an 8-character all-caps name.
    Anyone remember the name?

    It did exactly what the original poster is asking for.

    PC Magazine Change of Address (COA32.exe). It started as 16 bit COA.exe.
    Then it became COA2.exe (I think when things went to 64 bits).

    Ziff-Davis reported COA was the most downloaded program for years on end.

    Don't know where to get it now, or even if it exists, but let's search. https://www.google.com/search?q=COA32.exe

    I didn't check these links but they were in the first page of results. https://www2.isye.gatech.edu/~mgoetsch/cali/Windows%20Configuration/Windows%20Configuration%20Html/COA32_RelocatingApplicationswithoutReinstalling.htm

    http://mc-computing.com/technical/Win_95_Suggestions.htm http://www.nettally.com/waldoe/freeware/fileutil.html https://www.techrepublic.com/forums/discussions/modify-program-location/ http://www.ericphelps.com/favorites/utilities.html
    v14n11.zip <http://www.lanet.lv/ftp/simtelnet/msdos/pcmag/v14n11.zip>
    267K PcMag: COA, HTML 23-Feb-96

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  • From Jan K.@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 10 13:34:51 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    W Mon, 8 Jan 2024 15:38:53 -0500, Larry Wolff napisal:

    I've got the same problem with a well known game

    I can't remember the name of the program which debuted around the Windows
    95 or Windows 2000 time frame, probably by Russinovich or someone like that which moved programs from where they were to where you wanted them to go.

    I think it started with "C" and it was an 8-character all-caps name.
    Anyone remember the name?

    It did exactly what the original poster is asking for.

    PC Magazine Change of Address (COA32.exe). It started as 16 bit COA.exe.
    Then it became COA2.exe (I think when things went to 64 bits).

    Ziff-Davis reported COA was the most downloaded program for years on end.

    Don't know where to get it now, or even if it exists, but let's search. https://www.google.com/search?q=COA32.exe

    I didn't check these links but they were in the first page of results. https://www2.isye.gatech.edu/~mgoetsch/cali/Windows%20Configuration/Windows%20Configuration%20Html/COA32_RelocatingApplicationswithoutReinstalling.htm
    http://mc-computing.com/technical/Win_95_Suggestions.htm http://www.nettally.com/waldoe/freeware/fileutil.html https://www.techrepublic.com/forums/discussions/modify-program-location/ http://www.ericphelps.com/favorites/utilities.html

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