On 12/19/2023 2:50 PM, croy wrote:
On my refurbished laptop (HP 8440p) that came with Windows 10 home installed, some updates are
refusing to either download or install. An example would be:
"2023-05 Update for Windows 10 Version 20H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5001716)"
Does this seem logical? I thought MS was *forcing* updates everywhere.
I get the impression that at the moment, only Windows 10 22H2 is supported. Normally, two streams are supported, like 21H2 and 22H2, but updates seem
to have stopped for 21H2. And that happened right after Windows Update
tried to aggressively upgrade the machines to 22H2.
In winver.exe, 22H2 would be 19045.xxx . 21H2 would be 19044.xxx .
You can download the Windows 10 DVD, and that should be 22H2. It
can be delivered as "Windows.iso" by MediaCreationTool, and you can
right click that, use Setup.exe, to force 22H2 into the machine.
But on my Optiplex 780, the GMA graphics were too old for 22H2. The
assistant code in 22H2, did not diagnose the graphics as a potential
issue, the install goes along, then it rolls back (which wastes about
an hour of your time). In the case of the 780, fitting a junkroom HD6450
fixed it. The 22H2 could then go ahead, with the (slightly better) graphics.
Windows is likely looking for something on the order of WDDM 3.0, and
I think XDDM drivers are not on the dining-list for 22H2. This is just
a guess on my part. The XDDM drivers would be WinXP or Vista era, something like that. The utility "dxdiag", present in a lot of Windows OSes, can tell
you what the current driver type is (XDDM or WDDM, and version number).
It's under display.
The OS would run, with the unaccelerated VESA driver (which is an in-box driver).
For example, if I pulled the network cable, and installed 22H2 in the presence of
a FX5200 PCI video card, the OS would install, but the resolution would be jammed
at 1024x768 and not adjustable to the native resolution.
Summary: You're hitting a (slightly undocumented) artificial hardware limit
that may be preventing the machine from advancing to a supported state.
On a laptop there is little that can be done, to force NVidia to
modify a driver so it meets WDDM 3.0 version. NVidia graphics may have
on the order of six years of "real support", and your graphics are
around thirteen years old, and then it is the luck of the draw, as to
when the OS will impose a limit based on that. Perhaps your 20H2 19043.xxx
is the end of the road. Windows Defender updates should still work.
Paul
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