• Is Macrium gone?

    From jason_warren@ieee.org@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 5 16:36:04 2023
    I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?

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  • From Big Al@21:1/5 to this is what on Tue Dec 5 16:58:30 2023
    On 12/5/23 04:36 PM, this is what jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
    I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?

    https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

    --
    Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon
    Al

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  • From jason_warren@ieee.org@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 5 17:27:07 2023
    In article <uko6e6$cm0d$1@dont-email.me>, Bears@invalid.com says...

    On 12/5/23 04:36 PM, this is what jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
    I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?

    https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

    Thanks!

    Truly bizarre - when I searched with Firefox
    macrium.* was nowhere to be found. Chrome found it!

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to jason_warren@ieee.org on Wed Dec 6 03:53:55 2023
    On 12/5/2023 5:27 PM, jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
    In article <uko6e6$cm0d$1@dont-email.me>, Bears@invalid.com says...

    On 12/5/23 04:36 PM, this is what jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
    I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?

    https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

    Thanks!

    Truly bizarre - when I searched with Firefox
    macrium.* was nowhere to be found. Chrome found it!


    You can try popular domain names in Wikipedia, and
    get an "authoritative" URL for the home site for it there.

    A search on Macrium, gives Macrium Reflect, but the domain
    does not point you to the reflectfree page.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrium_Reflect

    Paul

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to jason_warren@ieee.org on Wed Dec 6 06:48:28 2023
    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 17:27:07 -0500, "jason_warren@ieee.org" <jason_warren@ieee.org> wrote:

    In article <uko6e6$cm0d$1@dont-email.me>, Bears@invalid.com says...

    On 12/5/23 04:36 PM, this is what jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
    I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?

    https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

    Thanks!

    Truly bizarre - when I searched with Firefox
    macrium.* was nowhere to be found. Chrome found it!

    You using its internal secure (https) domain server (Cloudflare)? It
    might have been a DNS problem.

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 6 12:31:57 2023
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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 6 06:52:41 2023
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
    wrote:

    ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    jason_warren@ieee.org wrote on 12/5/23 3:27 PM:
    In article <uko6e6$cm0d$1@dont-email.me>, Bears@invalid.com says...

    On 12/5/23 04:36 PM, this is what jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
    I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?

    https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

    Thanks!

    Truly bizarre - when I searched with Firefox
    macrium.* was nowhere to be found. Chrome found it!

    You might consider obtaining an earlier MR free version rather than the
    current 'free trial' version.

    e.g.
    macrium-reflect-free-8-0.7690.x64.exe
    or
    macrium-reflect-free-8-0.7279.x64.exe



    You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here; >https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html

    That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.


    I just up and bought it at this point. My version is 8.1.7784, if anyone
    is interested.

    I like the resident ransomware image protection it offers.

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed Dec 6 15:31:44 2023
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here; https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html

    If you use ReflectDLHF.exe, then you get 7783 (which is also in the
    topic of the site you posted). I have no idea what 7784 is about.

    That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.

    They updated 8.0.* after announcing it would be the last free version.
    But it's always possible there's another (free) update of 8.0.*, no?

    --
    s|b

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to jason_warren@ieee.org on Wed Dec 6 08:01:15 2023
    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 16:36:04 -0500, "jason_warren@ieee.org" <jason_warren@ieee.org> wrote:

    I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?


    Out of curiosity I just did a search on Macrium in the latest version
    of FireFox running under the latest version of Windows 11
    Professional. No problem here.

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 6 15:27:11 2023
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 04:05:42 -0700, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

    You might consider obtaining an earlier MR free version rather than the current 'free trial' version.

    Yeah, no. 8.* is still free. I'm using 8.0.7783.

    --
    s|b

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed Dec 6 10:06:19 2023
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
    You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here; https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html

    That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.

    Ed,

    Can I use that one to mount a MR backup created by the paid version
    and extract individual files from it?

    Right now I have the paid version on one PC of my two, and if I need
    to recover an older version of a file onto the other, I attach the
    external backup drive to the MR-hosting PC, extract the file, and
    then transfer it on a USB stick. It would be a bit more convenient to
    be able to attach the backup drive directly to the other PC.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Wed Dec 6 18:45:58 2023
    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
    You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
    https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html >>
    That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.

    Ed,

    Can I use that one to mount a MR backup created by the paid version
    and extract individual files from it?

    Right now I have the paid version on one PC of my two, and if I need
    to recover an older version of a file onto the other, I attach the
    external backup drive to the MR-hosting PC, extract the file, and
    then transfer it on a USB stick. It would be a bit more convenient to
    be able to attach the backup drive directly to the other PC.


    Why did you pay? I got this latest update in the normal way, reminded by
    my years-long installation of Macrium.
    And yes, it's the version number that determines compatability; not
    whether you paid for it or not.

    Ed

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 7 09:01:38 2023
    In article <ukppl3$oq9v$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer wrote...

    ...

    You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here; https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html

    That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.

    Ed

    Useful, thanks. 177MB is fairly small - is this just a stub, or the full application? And what are the "home" versions?

    --

    Phil, London

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 7 09:54:43 2023
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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Philip Herlihy on Thu Dec 7 09:36:20 2023
    Philip Herlihy wrote:
    In article <ukppl3$oq9v$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer wrote...

    ...

    You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
    https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html >>
    That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.

    Ed

    Useful, thanks. 177MB is fairly small - is this just a stub, or the full application? And what are the "home" versions?


    The 177MB is the full application.
    I can't figure out what "home" version is, but it's 30MB larger.
    Go for the non-home, my suggestion.

    Ed

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Fri Dec 8 12:26:43 2023
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 18:45:58 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
    You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
    https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html >>
    That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.

    Ed,

    Can I use that one to mount a MR backup created by the paid version
    and extract individual files from it?

    Right now I have the paid version on one PC of my two, and if I need
    to recover an older version of a file onto the other, I attach the
    external backup drive to the MR-hosting PC, extract the file, and
    then transfer it on a USB stick. It would be a bit more convenient to
    be able to attach the backup drive directly to the other PC.

    Why did you pay? I got this latest update in the normal way, reminded by
    my years-long installation of Macrium.

    This was my first version of Macrium, installed on my then-new PC
    when two years ago. And I needed the paid version because I do file
    and folder backups on most of my partitions.

    And yes, it's the version number that determines compatability; not
    whether you paid for it or not.

    Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
    folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will
    restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the
    installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
    knew the answer.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Fri Dec 8 21:18:04 2023
    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 18:45:58 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
    You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
    https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html >>>>
    That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.

    Ed,

    Can I use that one to mount a MR backup created by the paid version
    and extract individual files from it?

    Right now I have the paid version on one PC of my two, and if I need
    to recover an older version of a file onto the other, I attach the
    external backup drive to the MR-hosting PC, extract the file, and
    then transfer it on a USB stick. It would be a bit more convenient to
    be able to attach the backup drive directly to the other PC.

    Why did you pay? I got this latest update in the normal way, reminded by
    my years-long installation of Macrium.

    This was my first version of Macrium, installed on my then-new PC
    when two years ago. And I needed the paid version because I do file
    and folder backups on most of my partitions.

    And yes, it's the version number that determines compatability; not
    whether you paid for it or not.

    Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
    folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will
    restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the
    installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
    knew the answer.


    I use only the free version; always have done.
    I take a full image of my SSD regularly. And from that image I can pick
    off individual files or folders. Macrium can mount the image as a
    virtual drive; and that gives me access to all its contents through Win Explorer.
    Macrium Free can also create clones, but I get by without those.

    I advise you to do the same. Take a regular full image. And that can be
    used for either a full restore of the drive, or to pick off individual
    files and folders.

    If you want regular saves of specific files or folders, there are other
    methods available.

    Ed

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Fri Dec 8 18:47:26 2023
    On 12/8/2023 3:26 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 18:45:58 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
    You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
    https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html >>>>
    That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.

    Ed,

    Can I use that one to mount a MR backup created by the paid version
    and extract individual files from it?

    Right now I have the paid version on one PC of my two, and if I need
    to recover an older version of a file onto the other, I attach the
    external backup drive to the MR-hosting PC, extract the file, and
    then transfer it on a USB stick. It would be a bit more convenient to
    be able to attach the backup drive directly to the other PC.

    Why did you pay? I got this latest update in the normal way, reminded by
    my years-long installation of Macrium.

    This was my first version of Macrium, installed on my then-new PC
    when two years ago. And I needed the paid version because I do file
    and folder backups on most of my partitions.

    And yes, it's the version number that determines compatability; not
    whether you paid for it or not.

    Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
    folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will
    restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the
    installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
    knew the answer.


    We can tell you what the Free version does, but we cannot tell
    you how permutations of Free with Paid work :-)

    The free supports imaging or cloning. No file/folder.
    The imaging is Full or Differential (Incremental or Incremental-Forever are paid features).
    You can mount an MRIMG like a hard drive. I can copy individual files from K: to C: ,
    where K: is the letter I selected for a Macrium mount of a backup. At the end of
    a copying session, I can go to File Explorer and select an option to dismount my Macrium letter K: .

    One of the ticky boxes Macrium has is "remove permission restrictions". This means,
    if you make a Macrium backup, not only do you get all the files, you also get to "look in places you could not normally look". It is at this point,
    that you start discovering the things that Macrium is not backing up. Obviously, backing up a Shadow in System Volume Information, is verboten.
    And backing up Windows.edb or Windows.db for Federated Search, that won't quiesce at backup time, so they don't bother backing up a busted file
    that would result. I would also not expect to find a pagefile.sys in
    a backup (nothing of value lost). They could probably back up a hiberfile,
    but again, that's wasteful if they're doing that.

    Doing "hot" backups of files/folders, is how a Macrium file/folder OP
    would differ from say, XXCOPY or such. Most of the simple copying routines, will not be using VSS to "freeze" a copy of dynamic files.

    A Full Image can also be converted to a VHD file, for virtual machine use. 7-ZIP tool, can also read files from a VHD. The dead-end format VHDX that Hyper-V uses, no tools seem to interact with that, and that is probably
    why Img2VHD was discontinued, as making a Img2VHDX would be a waste of everyones time. 7ZIP can't read a VHDX either.

    IMG2VHD stopped perhaps in V6, but it can still convert a Full MRIMG
    from V7 to a VHD. I have not matrix tested all the output options
    of Macrium, to see which ones can be converted to VHD.

    Paul

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Sat Dec 9 11:32:32 2023
    On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 21:18:04 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Stan Brown wrote:
    Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
    folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will
    restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the
    installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
    knew the answer.

    I use only the free version; always have done.
    I take a full image of my SSD regularly. And from that image I can pick
    off individual files or folders. Macrium can mount the image as a
    virtual drive; and that gives me access to all its contents through Win Explorer.

    Thanks, Ed; that's just what I wanted to know.

    I advise you to do the same. Take a regular full image. And that can be
    used for either a full restore of the drive, or to pick off individual
    files and folders.

    Why don't I do that? Because my E: partition (10 GB) contains a 2 GB
    container managed by VeraCrypt, where financial and medical records
    live. If I did a full image backup of E:, then every time I did a
    differential backup those 2 GB would get backed up again, even though
    only a couple of hundred KB were actually new.

    If I remember right, MR won't actually do full image backups on
    VeraCrypt partitions, even if I have VeraCrypt running to decode
    them. I'm not 100% certain of that, but I think I tried it when I
    first installed MR and it didn't work. I can't think of another
    reason I would have done file and folder backup on them. In any case,
    file and folder backup does work on such partitions. Of course the
    backup doesn't have the original Veracrypt password, but it does have
    a strong password that I use for backups.

    If you want regular saves of specific files or folders, there are other methods available.

    It's not a matter of backing up specified files or folders, but of
    backing up everything _except_ one particular file.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From jason_warren@ieee.org@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 9 16:07:03 2023
    In article <l231nip1u8849dfq7e61ic1ak9p20gq4q8@4ax.com>,
    Ken@invalid.news.com says...

    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 16:36:04 -0500, "jason_warren@ieee.org" <jason_warren@ieee.org> wrote:

    I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?


    Out of curiosity I just did a search on Macrium in the latest version
    of FireFox running under the latest version of Windows 11
    Professional. No problem here.

    It worked in another computer using Firefox. I suspect one
    of the ad- or link-blockers rejected the link for some
    reason.

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 10 02:20:43 2023
    As I understand it:

    v8.1.7784 is home version with free demo,
    v8.0.7279 is last free version.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Sat Dec 9 23:23:24 2023
    On 12/9/2023 2:32 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 21:18:04 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Stan Brown wrote:
    Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
    folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will
    restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the
    installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
    knew the answer.

    I use only the free version; always have done.
    I take a full image of my SSD regularly. And from that image I can pick
    off individual files or folders. Macrium can mount the image as a
    virtual drive; and that gives me access to all its contents through Win
    Explorer.

    Thanks, Ed; that's just what I wanted to know.

    I advise you to do the same. Take a regular full image. And that can be
    used for either a full restore of the drive, or to pick off individual
    files and folders.

    Why don't I do that? Because my E: partition (10 GB) contains a 2 GB container managed by VeraCrypt, where financial and medical records
    live. If I did a full image backup of E:, then every time I did a differential backup those 2 GB would get backed up again, even though
    only a couple of hundred KB were actually new.

    If I remember right, MR won't actually do full image backups on
    VeraCrypt partitions, even if I have VeraCrypt running to decode
    them. I'm not 100% certain of that, but I think I tried it when I
    first installed MR and it didn't work. I can't think of another
    reason I would have done file and folder backup on them. In any case,
    file and folder backup does work on such partitions. Of course the
    backup doesn't have the original Veracrypt password, but it does have
    a strong password that I use for backups.

    If you want regular saves of specific files or folders, there are other
    methods available.

    It's not a matter of backing up specified files or folders, but of
    backing up everything _except_ one particular file.


    There is a capability for this, but it relies on a feature of VSS
    and so is not necessarily perfectly under the control of Macrium.
    It may have trouble excluding a hundred thousand folders for example,
    because the operation (at VSS level), has to complete in ten seconds
    or less (the quiescence response period). After everything is
    quiet on a partition snapshot, then the snapshot is "cast in stone"
    for the remainder of the attempted disk imaging. They're not
    backing up your partition, they are backing up a VSS snapshot
    of your partition. That's why the real partition can change,
    while the backup runs on a "hot" system, and you still get a
    perfect copy of the snapshot of the partition.

    https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW7/How+to+exclude+files+from+a+Disk+Image

    If you only need to remove one item, there is a good chance it would
    work, during a full partition image operation.

    But if you were enumerating half of the tiny folders in WinSxS,
    the exclusion step being done by VSS, may fail to complete, and
    things you didn't want backed up, would be getting backed up anyway.

    It still raises the question, of how a File/Folder backup would work,
    because you really want VSS to be carrying those out for you too. The
    objective is to get complete snapshots of files ("intact" files), and
    not bits of files some older bits, and some newer bits that
    just got saved in Microsoft Word. Not only is VSS a snapshot, the
    ten second period tries to get entities in the machine to release
    control long enough so any files they were working on, are either
    completely in their old state or completely in their new state.
    It's like shooting 16mm movie film, where one of the frames
    happens to not be blurred, not even a little bit.

    The Search Indexer, if it was updating Windows.edb , apparently
    it won't release for VSS to get a consistent snapshot
    of the file. This does not hurt anything, whatever happens
    to that file, because on a restore, I notice it starts regenerating
    that file all over again, when the restored OS boots for the first
    time. Either the file is not backed up at all, or, some aspect
    of the file condition flags it is corrupt or unusable or should not
    be used.

    If you wanted perfect copies of stuff, then if the partition is
    "at rest", such as a backup from the Macrium Rescue CD, then VSS
    issues no longer matter. (VSS is not available, is not used, is
    not needed, in a Rescue CD session.) But seeing as the above article
    is using Registry for control of this, that might not propagate to a
    Rescue CD session.

    *******

    Obviously, if this was implemented on "their side" of the backup
    operation (let VSS capture everything, then remove exclusion blocks
    manually), they could implement it themselves, and have all the time
    in the world, to carve it out.

    The fact you can restore a partition, into a smaller space than the
    original image (the image restore behaves like it was being done on
    a file-by-file bases and it rebuilds the $MFT), tells you the handling
    of partition images, isn't quite as inflexible as they let on. They
    can implement pretty fancy features, when they put their mind to it.

    Paul

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  • From Mark Drummond@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 10 06:00:00 2023
    On 10/12/2023 04:35, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    Brian Gregory wrote on 12/9/23 7:20 PM:
    As I understand it:

    v8.1.7784 is home version with free demo,
    v8.0.7279 is last free version.
    Iirc, using the feature/option within the Macrium Reflect free version
    program:
    - 7279 after 7690 free update version was released will update to 7690
    - 7690 after 7783 free update version was released will update to 7783
    I suspect, if the current installed version is 7290, it would update
    to 7783.

    If choosing a different path than updating via the program the full
    installer version of 7690 and 7783 are available.

    Additional info for each of the full version installers
    7279 has a digital signature of January 10, 2023
    7690 has a digital signature of October 11, 2023
    7783 has a digital signature of November 30, 2023


    Bug fixes and Improvements v8.1.7784 - 1st December 2023

        Rescue Media
            We have successfully addressed a long standing issue related to
    the rescue media, rectifying the potential failure to auto-populate the 'Existing Backups' view. The root cause of this problem was identified
    as a change, made by Windows Update on some systems, to a GPT attribute
    setting that concealed the system volume at PE startup.
            We've resolved a problem where an auto restore could hide the
    main Reflect window in the rescue media.

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to jason_warren@ieee.org on Sun Dec 10 09:40:30 2023
    On 05/12/2023 21:36, jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
    I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?


    If you are looking for the free version it's available from, amongst
    others, Major Geeks
    - - https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html

    --
    Regards
    wasbit

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Sun Dec 10 13:18:53 2023
    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 21:18:04 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Stan Brown wrote:
    Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
    folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will
    restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the
    installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
    knew the answer.

    I use only the free version; always have done.
    I take a full image of my SSD regularly. And from that image I can pick
    off individual files or folders. Macrium can mount the image as a
    virtual drive; and that gives me access to all its contents through Win
    Explorer.

    Thanks, Ed; that's just what I wanted to know.

    I advise you to do the same. Take a regular full image. And that can be
    used for either a full restore of the drive, or to pick off individual
    files and folders.

    Why don't I do that? Because my E: partition (10 GB) contains a 2 GB container managed by VeraCrypt, where financial and medical records
    live. If I did a full image backup of E:, then every time I did a differential backup those 2 GB would get backed up again, even though
    only a couple of hundred KB were actually new.

    If I remember right, MR won't actually do full image backups on
    VeraCrypt partitions, even if I have VeraCrypt running to decode
    them. I'm not 100% certain of that, but I think I tried it when I
    first installed MR and it didn't work. I can't think of another
    reason I would have done file and folder backup on them. In any case,
    file and folder backup does work on such partitions. Of course the
    backup doesn't have the original Veracrypt password, but it does have
    a strong password that I use for backups.

    If you want regular saves of specific files or folders, there are other
    methods available.

    It's not a matter of backing up specified files or folders, but of
    backing up everything _except_ one particular file.


    How about this as a solution?
    Move the Veracrypt file to a partition of its own.
    Macrium can't exclude individual files from its imaging, but it's a
    doddle to exclude a partition.

    As for the incremental backing up of the Veracrypt file, try the
    Sourceforge Veracrypt forum. There's a recent discussion here; https://sourceforge.net/p/veracrypt/discussion/technical/thread/eb44ae7764/
    but I'd feel more inclined to start a new thread, put the full problem
    to them and see what they have to offer.

    Ed

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Sun Dec 10 16:32:11 2023
    Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 21:18:04 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Stan Brown wrote:
    Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
    folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
    knew the answer.

    I use only the free version; always have done.
    I take a full image of my SSD regularly. And from that image I can pick
    off individual files or folders. Macrium can mount the image as a
    virtual drive; and that gives me access to all its contents through Win Explorer.

    Thanks, Ed; that's just what I wanted to know.

    Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the situation, but I think there's still
    a catch.

    AFAIK, you have the paid version of Macrium on one computer (C1) and
    ask whether the free version of Macrium on a second computer (C2), can
    restore individual files from an image of the first computer (C1).

    If that's indeed the scenario, the answer is "It depends!".

    At this very moment, the answer is probably yes. But as the free
    version gets older, it might *not* be able to handle an image which is
    made by a (much) newer version (assuming the paid version is kept up to
    date).

    It's reasonable to assume that a newer Macrium version will be able to
    handle an image made by an older version. (Backward compatibility.)

    But the opposite, an older Macrium version handling an image made be
    newer version, might become impossible at some time when Macrium changes
    / needs to change the format of an image. This would need the old
    version to be forward compatible with the new version, which is a rare exception, because it requires looking into the future at the time when
    the old version was developed.

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  • From Bill Bradshaw@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Sun Dec 10 09:00:46 2023
    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
    You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
    https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html >>
    That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.

    Ed,

    Can I use that one to mount a MR backup created by the paid version
    and extract individual files from it?

    Right now I have the paid version on one PC of my two, and if I need
    to recover an older version of a file onto the other, I attach the
    external backup drive to the MR-hosting PC, extract the file, and
    then transfer it on a USB stick. It would be a bit more convenient to
    be able to attach the backup drive directly to the other PC.

    You can extract files with free. I saw this message but forgot where it
    was. I have registered Macrium on 1 computer and free on 2 computers. I answered your question in alt.comp.freeware because I became interested in
    this and because I will not be renewing my registration.
    --
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

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  • From Char Jackson@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Dec 11 13:20:03 2023
    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 23:23:24 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 12/9/2023 2:32 PM, Stan Brown wrote:

    It's not a matter of backing up specified files or folders, but of
    backing up everything _except_ one particular file.


    There is a capability for this, but it relies on a feature of VSS
    and so is not necessarily perfectly under the control of Macrium.
    It may have trouble excluding a hundred thousand folders for example,
    because the operation (at VSS level), has to complete in ten seconds
    or less (the quiescence response period). After everything is
    quiet on a partition snapshot, then the snapshot is "cast in stone"
    for the remainder of the attempted disk imaging. They're not
    backing up your partition, they are backing up a VSS snapshot
    of your partition. That's why the real partition can change,
    while the backup runs on a "hot" system, and you still get a
    perfect copy of the snapshot of the partition.

    https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW7/How+to+exclude+files+from+a+Disk+Image

    If you only need to remove one item, there is a good chance it would
    work, during a full partition image operation.

    But if you were enumerating half of the tiny folders in WinSxS,
    the exclusion step being done by VSS, may fail to complete, and
    things you didn't want backed up, would be getting backed up anyway.

    It still raises the question, of how a File/Folder backup would work,
    because you really want VSS to be carrying those out for you too.

    I most certainly would not want VSS to be involved in a file/folder backup. I don't think anyone would. Think of the hundreds of millions of computer users worldwide who copy or move billions of files every day, all without the overhead
    of VSS or similar, and you quickly see that VSS is absolutely unnecessary in that scenario.

    I have a specific piece of software that places great value on maintaining file integrity as it moves files from one volume to another. The basic steps are:
    1. enumerate the files
    2. select the first file and calculate its crc32
    3. copy the file and calculate the copied file's crc32
    4. compare the two crc values
    4a. if they match, go to the next file
    4b. if they don't match, log it to console and disk, try again

    As expected, it's quite slow and there's never a crc mismatch.

    The
    objective is to get complete snapshots of files ("intact" files), and
    not bits of files some older bits, and some newer bits that
    just got saved in Microsoft Word.

    I use VSS to get a complete snapshot of a volume. I would not want to use it to get a complete snapshot of a file since that doesn't seem to be an actual problem.

    <snip>

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Char Jackson on Mon Dec 11 14:52:59 2023
    On 12/11/2023 2:20 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 23:23:24 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 12/9/2023 2:32 PM, Stan Brown wrote:

    It's not a matter of backing up specified files or folders, but of
    backing up everything _except_ one particular file.


    There is a capability for this, but it relies on a feature of VSS
    and so is not necessarily perfectly under the control of Macrium.
    It may have trouble excluding a hundred thousand folders for example,
    because the operation (at VSS level), has to complete in ten seconds
    or less (the quiescence response period). After everything is
    quiet on a partition snapshot, then the snapshot is "cast in stone"
    for the remainder of the attempted disk imaging. They're not
    backing up your partition, they are backing up a VSS snapshot
    of your partition. That's why the real partition can change,
    while the backup runs on a "hot" system, and you still get a
    perfect copy of the snapshot of the partition.

    https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW7/How+to+exclude+files+from+a+Disk+Image

    If you only need to remove one item, there is a good chance it would
    work, during a full partition image operation.

    But if you were enumerating half of the tiny folders in WinSxS,
    the exclusion step being done by VSS, may fail to complete, and
    things you didn't want backed up, would be getting backed up anyway.

    It still raises the question, of how a File/Folder backup would work,
    because you really want VSS to be carrying those out for you too.

    I most certainly would not want VSS to be involved in a file/folder backup. I don't think anyone would. Think of the hundreds of millions of computer users worldwide who copy or move billions of files every day, all without the overhead
    of VSS or similar, and you quickly see that VSS is absolutely unnecessary in that scenario.

    I have a specific piece of software that places great value on maintaining file
    integrity as it moves files from one volume to another. The basic steps are: 1. enumerate the files
    2. select the first file and calculate its crc32
    3. copy the file and calculate the copied file's crc32
    4. compare the two crc values
    4a. if they match, go to the next file
    4b. if they don't match, log it to console and disk, try again

    As expected, it's quite slow and there's never a crc mismatch.

    The
    objective is to get complete snapshots of files ("intact" files), and
    not bits of files some older bits, and some newer bits that
    just got saved in Microsoft Word.

    I use VSS to get a complete snapshot of a volume. I would not want to use it to
    get a complete snapshot of a file since that doesn't seem to be an actual problem.

    <snip>


    While it is running, use "vssadmin" and list shadows and
    see what is going on.

    # administrator

    vssadmin list shadows

    Some software products use persistent shadows, and the list
    can be fuller than other peoples machines.

    There is a maximum number of shadows (64?), and
    some people end up with an extensive list of them.
    It all depends on whether a backup product "manages"
    your machine, as to the extent of this. Perhaps some
    flavor of Incrementals or Incremental-Forever, uses it.

    Paul

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Dec 11 16:06:34 2023
    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 23:23:24 -0500, Paul wrote:

    On 12/9/2023 2:32 PM, Stan Brown wrote:

    It's not a matter of backing up specified files or folders, but of
    backing up everything _except_ one particular file.

    There is a capability for this, but it relies on a feature of VSS
    and so is not necessarily perfectly under the control of Macrium.
    It may have trouble excluding a hundred thousand folders for example,
    because the operation (at VSS level), has to complete in ten seconds
    or less (the quiescence response period). After everything is
    quiet on a partition snapshot, then the snapshot is "cast in stone"
    for the remainder of the attempted disk imaging. They're not
    backing up your partition, they are backing up a VSS snapshot
    of your partition. That's why the real partition can change,
    while the backup runs on a "hot" system, and you still get a
    perfect copy of the snapshot of the partition.

    https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW7/How+to+exclude+files+from+a+Disk+Image

    If you only need to remove one item, there is a good chance it would
    work, during a full partition image operation.

    And I don't do anything else on the PC while the backup is
    proceeding. Of course I can't control what background processes and
    services may do, but I suspect they wouldn't affect any partition
    other than C:.

    However ... what's wrong with doing a File and Folder backup instead
    of a Full Image backup? Either way, VSS will be invoked and the
    backup will work from that frozen copy, right?

    It still raises the question, of how a File/Folder backup would work,
    because you really want VSS to be carrying those out for you too.

    As far as I can recall, it does. (I'm about to do my weekly backup,
    so it's been 7 days since I saw whether VSS succeeded or failed on my
    E: partition.)


    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Dec 11 15:59:53 2023
    On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 18:47:26 -0500, Paul wrote:
    A Full Image can also be converted to a VHD file, for virtual machine use. 7-ZIP tool, can also read files from a VHD. The dead-end format VHDX that Hyper-V uses, no tools seem to interact with that, and that is probably
    why Img2VHD was discontinued, as making a Img2VHDX would be a waste of everyones time. 7ZIP can't read a VHDX either.

    IMG2VHD stopped perhaps in V6, but it can still convert a Full MRIMG
    from V7 to a VHD. I have not matrix tested all the output options
    of Macrium, to see which ones can be converted to VHD.

    If Macrium Reflect Free will mount an image file and let me recover
    individual files from it, is there any advantage to converting the
    image to VHD using IMG2VHD, then opening it with 7-Zip?

    Am I missing something?

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Mon Dec 11 16:13:35 2023
    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 13:18:53 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 21:18:04 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Stan Brown wrote:
    Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
    folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will
    restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the
    installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
    knew the answer.

    I use only the free version; always have done.
    I take a full image of my SSD regularly. And from that image I can pick
    off individual files or folders. Macrium can mount the image as a
    virtual drive; and that gives me access to all its contents through Win
    Explorer.

    Thanks, Ed; that's just what I wanted to know.

    I advise you to do the same. Take a regular full image. And that can be
    used for either a full restore of the drive, or to pick off individual
    files and folders.

    Why don't I do that? Because my E: partition (10 GB) contains a 2 GB container managed by VeraCrypt, where financial and medical records
    live. If I did a full image backup of E:, then every time I did a differential backup those 2 GB would get backed up again, even though
    only a couple of hundred KB were actually new.

    If I remember right, MR won't actually do full image backups on
    VeraCrypt partitions, even if I have VeraCrypt running to decode
    them. I'm not 100% certain of that, but I think I tried it when I
    first installed MR and it didn't work. I can't think of another
    reason I would have done file and folder backup on them. In any case,
    file and folder backup does work on such partitions. Of course the
    backup doesn't have the original Veracrypt password, but it does have
    a strong password that I use for backups.

    If you want regular saves of specific files or folders, there are other
    methods available.

    It's not a matter of backing up specified files or folders, but of
    backing up everything _except_ one particular file.

    How about this as a solution?
    Move the Veracrypt file to a partition of its own.

    I think that probably makes sense. Only -- does it really matter
    whether I do an image backup or a File and folder backup of a
    partition? I do understand the difference between them, or at least I
    think I do, but I don't understand why people seem to prefer an image
    backup over a File and Folder.

    Macrium can't exclude individual files from its imaging, but it's a
    doddle to exclude a partition.

    True, though Paul posted a link to how to exclude an individual file
    from VSS, which means it would be excluded from the backup:

    <https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW7/How+to+exclude+files +from+a+Disk+Image>

    (Sorry about the URL being split across lines.)

    As for the incremental backing up of the Veracrypt file, try the
    Sourceforge Veracrypt forum. There's a recent discussion here; https://sourceforge.net/p/veracrypt/discussion/technical/thread/eb44ae7764/ but I'd feel more inclined to start a new thread, put the full problem
    to them and see what they have to offer.

    Thanks for the pointer. I didn't even think to check whether there
    was a VeraCrypt forum.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Bill Bradshaw on Mon Dec 11 16:19:47 2023
    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 09:00:46 -0900, Bill Bradshaw wrote:

    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
    You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
    https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html >>
    That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.

    Can I use that one to mount a MR backup created by the paid version
    and extract individual files from it?

    Right now I have the paid version on one PC of my two, and if I need
    to recover an older version of a file onto the other, I attach the
    external backup drive to the MR-hosting PC, extract the file, and
    then transfer it on a USB stick. It would be a bit more convenient to
    be able to attach the backup drive directly to the other PC.

    You can extract files with free. I saw this message but forgot where it
    was. I have registered Macrium on 1 computer and free on 2 computers.

    Thanks, Bill. I'm not sure how my query made it to alt.comp.freeware.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Mon Dec 11 19:53:32 2023
    On 12/11/2023 6:59 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 18:47:26 -0500, Paul wrote:
    A Full Image can also be converted to a VHD file, for virtual machine use. >> 7-ZIP tool, can also read files from a VHD. The dead-end format VHDX that
    Hyper-V uses, no tools seem to interact with that, and that is probably
    why Img2VHD was discontinued, as making a Img2VHDX would be a waste of
    everyones time. 7ZIP can't read a VHDX either.

    IMG2VHD stopped perhaps in V6, but it can still convert a Full MRIMG
    from V7 to a VHD. I have not matrix tested all the output options
    of Macrium, to see which ones can be converted to VHD.

    If Macrium Reflect Free will mount an image file and let me recover individual files from it, is there any advantage to converting the
    image to VHD using IMG2VHD, then opening it with 7-Zip?

    Am I missing something?


    I try to list some of the capabilities so you know they exist.

    It's up to you to pick items from the table, as you wish.

    A File&Folder backup, is the ultimate in efficiency, if
    it just backs up the things you want.

    Image backups are for people who want recovery-of-state,
    like I'm using on this computer right now. I tried to
    Repair Install twice, to fix a networking issue related
    to a RealTek NIC, and not only wasn't the problem fixed,
    the problems got worse. Now, WSL no longer works, on
    the last forward attempt. I tried all the recommended fixes
    and it continues to say the HyperV platform isn't working.

    I was forced to roll back C: , and I may roll it back
    a few more months before the day is done. The theory being,
    this is less work than bolting all my VM stuff back together
    from scratch. I rolled it back three days, now all my VM
    stuff works, but the NIC loses DNS about five minutes after
    boot. The system works fine using a USB to Ethernet (ASIX)
    adapter, but I can't leave it that way. That is, after all,
    my emergency NIC. I have to fix it and put the emergency NIC
    back in the box (for emergencies).

    It's getting harder to find replacement Ethernet cards now.
    Marvel seemed to exit the networking area, some time ago.
    Intel still offers at least one product, but I no longer
    see depth there. And the price of an Intel NIC is outrageous.
    For not much more, I could get an AQC107 instead. I certainly
    cannot accept any Realtek cards, because as of now, I cannot
    trust their drivers any more. It might not be their driver -- it
    may well be a Microsoft issue, but I don't seem to have trouble
    with Intel product (the Test Machine built-in Intel NIC has
    always worked properly).

    The Marvel NIC, only one bad driver the whole time I used it.
    And that was fixed relatively quickly, at the time.

    A number of my spares, are for PCI bus, and the new motherboards
    don't have PCI, so I'm kinda screwed on spares.

    Paul

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  • From Char Jackson@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Dec 11 20:38:54 2023
    On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 19:53:32 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    Image backups are for people who want recovery-of-state,
    like I'm using on this computer right now. I tried to
    Repair Install twice, to fix a networking issue related
    to a RealTek NIC, and not only wasn't the problem fixed,
    the problems got worse. Now, WSL no longer works, on
    the last forward attempt. I tried all the recommended fixes
    and it continues to say the HyperV platform isn't working.

    I was forced to roll back C: , and I may roll it back
    a few more months before the day is done. The theory being,
    this is less work than bolting all my VM stuff back together
    from scratch. I rolled it back three days, now all my VM
    stuff works, but the NIC loses DNS about five minutes after
    boot. The system works fine using a USB to Ethernet (ASIX)
    adapter, but I can't leave it that way. That is, after all,
    my emergency NIC. I have to fix it and put the emergency NIC
    back in the box (for emergencies).

    What does "loses DNS" look like when it happens? What does it look like at the packet level?

    Since WSL isn't working, you probably can't use tcpdump, but you can still use the Windows counterpart, windump, to examine your DNS traffic or to see if it exists at all. Get familiar with how the packets look when DNS is working so that you have a baseline for when things stop working. Maybe you've done that already.

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Tue Dec 12 12:22:09 2023
    Stan Brown wrote:


    I think that probably makes sense. Only -- does it really matter
    whether I do an image backup or a File and folder backup of a
    partition? I do understand the difference between them, or at least I
    think I do, but I don't understand why people seem to prefer an image
    backup over a File and Folder.


    It's all a question of capitalising on the free version of Macrium. The
    file and folder backup is only there as a thirty-day trial.
    I've always just used the image backup (with an occasional clone for
    possible speedy SSD-replacement; but never actually needed); and I've
    done many a full restore from images, always successfully.
    There's one downside to this strategy; a full restore will lose all data
    added since the image used was taken. Which won't do for those with daily-or-even-hourly updated info; customer accounts, sales figures and
    the like. But the vast majority of personal computers at home don't
    include those; nor does mine; so the image strategy will suffice for them.
    I keep ebooks, music and similar separately on external drives. IMAP
    rather than POP email accounts, spread over different devices.

    Ed

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Tue Dec 12 12:34:20 2023
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    Stan Brown wrote:


    I think that probably makes sense. Only -- does it really matter
    whether I do an image backup or a File and folder backup of a
    partition? I do understand the difference between them, or at least I
    think I do, but I don't understand why people seem to prefer an image
    backup over a File and Folder.


    It's all a question of capitalising on the free version of Macrium. The
    file and folder backup is only there as a thirty-day trial.
    I've always just used the image backup (with an occasional clone for
    possible speedy SSD-replacement; but never actually needed); and I've
    done many a full restore from images, always successfully.
    There's one downside to this strategy; a full restore will lose all data added since the image used was taken. Which won't do for those with daily-or-even-hourly updated info; customer accounts, sales figures and
    the like. But the vast majority of personal computers at home don't
    include those; nor does mine; so the image strategy will suffice for them.
    I keep ebooks, music and similar separately on external drives. IMAP
    rather than POP email accounts, spread over different devices.

    Ed


    If I had certain files and folders that changed hourly, I think I'd use
    one of many available methods to regularly back them up; EaseUS, Windows backup, lots of scripts available on the Net. And I'd have that fully
    scheduled to be run hourly or so. It might take a few minutes to run, as opposed to the hour of Macrium image-taking.

    Ed

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Tue Dec 12 15:18:16 2023
    On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:34:20 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    rather than POP email accounts, spread over different devices.

    Ed


    If I had certain files and folders that changed hourly, I think I'd use
    one of many available methods to regularly back them up; EaseUS, Windows backup, lots of scripts available on the Net. And I'd have that fully scheduled to be run hourly or so. It might take a few minutes to run, as opposed to the hour of Macrium image-taking.

    That's what I use my USB stick for. It's not a performance issue for
    me: Macrium Reflect takes under 15 minutes to do a full backup of all partitions.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Paul on Tue Dec 12 15:19:07 2023
    On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 19:53:32 -0500, Paul wrote:
    On 12/11/2023 6:59 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    image to VHD using IMG2VHD, then opening it with 7-Zip?

    Am I missing something?


    I try to list some of the capabilities so you know they exist.

    It's up to you to pick items from the table, as you wish.

    A File&Folder backup, is the ultimate in efficiency, if
    it just backs up the things you want.

    Thanks for clarifying, Paul.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Tue Dec 12 15:16:35 2023
    On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:22:09 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Stan Brown wrote:

    [quoted text muted]
    partition? I do understand the difference between them, or at least I
    think I do, but I don't understand why people seem to prefer an image backup over a File and Folder.


    It's all a question of capitalising on the free version of Macrium. The
    file and folder backup is only there as a thirty-day trial.


    Thanks for clarifying. Since I already have the paid version, and
    only _create_ backups on the desktop PC where that version lives, it
    sounds like there's no real reason not to use File and Folder backup.

    VSS does get used on a File and Folder backup, by the way, as I found
    when I did my regular weekly backup.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Wed Dec 13 01:32:58 2023
    Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:34:20 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    rather than POP email accounts, spread over different devices.

    Ed


    If I had certain files and folders that changed hourly, I think I'd use
    one of many available methods to regularly back them up; EaseUS, Windows backup, lots of scripts available on the Net. And I'd have that fully scheduled to be run hourly or so. It might take a few minutes to run, as opposed to the hour of Macrium image-taking.

    That's what I use my USB stick for. It's not a performance issue for
    me: Macrium Reflect takes under 15 minutes to do a full backup of all partitions.

    I still use old optical discs, but discovered https://www.ventoy.net. I
    hope Macrium Reflect will work with it! :)
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