• Laptop Mysteriously Changes from UEFI to Legacy Boot

    From Boris@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 28 18:49:15 2023
    My wife's laptop is a Dell Inspiron 7353 2-in-1, purchased in 2016, with Windows 10 Home, factory installed, with an SSD. All has been running
    fine for many years. She leaves it plugged in and running 24/7.

    Yesterday, she was using it and stepped away for a few minutes. When she
    came back, the screen was black. She pressed the enter key, and the
    keyboard lit up, but the screen remained black. She pressed the power
    button, and the machine showed "No boot device found". She pressed the
    power button again, and up came the same message. Round and round she
    went.

    I powered up and F12'd into the boot menu, and it showed it was set to
    Legacy. Hmmm...that's not a factory install. I changed to UEFI, and the machine booted up just fine.

    I powered off and back on, and got "No boot device found".

    I checked the BIOS settings, and sure enough, boot was set to Legacy, and Secure boot was disabled. Legacy Option ROMs was enabled.

    How in the world did the boot change from UEFI to Legacy? I'm not aware
    of any human intervention. Very strange.

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  • From Boris@21:1/5 to Boris on Tue Nov 28 18:59:20 2023
    Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:XnsB0CA6E12EB8ACBorisinvalidinvalid@135.181.20.170:

    My wife's laptop is a Dell Inspiron 7353 2-in-1, purchased in 2016,
    with Windows 10 Home, factory installed, with an SSD. All has been
    running fine for many years. She leaves it plugged in and running
    24/7.

    Yesterday, she was using it and stepped away for a few minutes. When
    she came back, the screen was black. She pressed the enter key, and
    the keyboard lit up, but the screen remained black. She pressed the
    power button, and the machine showed "No boot device found". She
    pressed the power button again, and up came the same message. Round
    and round she went.

    I powered up and F12'd into the boot y-menu, and it showed it was set
    to Legacy. Hmmm...that's not a factory install. I changed to UEFI,
    and the machine booted up just fine.

    I powered off and back on, and got "No boot device found".

    I checked the BIOS settings, and sure enough, boot was set to Legacy,
    and Secure boot was disabled. Legacy Option ROMs was enabled.

    How in the world did the boot change from UEFI to Legacy? I'm not
    aware of any human intervention. Very strange.

    I forgot to mention that the first time my wife pressed the power off
    button, Dell's Support Assist came up and said it was doing a hardware
    check. It came back with hardware ok, and then black screened followed
    by the "No boot device found" merry-go-round.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Boris on Tue Nov 28 17:07:40 2023
    On 11/28/2023 1:59 PM, Boris wrote:
    Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:XnsB0CA6E12EB8ACBorisinvalidinvalid@135.181.20.170:

    My wife's laptop is a Dell Inspiron 7353 2-in-1, purchased in 2016,
    with Windows 10 Home, factory installed, with an SSD. All has been
    running fine for many years. She leaves it plugged in and running
    24/7.

    Yesterday, she was using it and stepped away for a few minutes. When
    she came back, the screen was black. She pressed the enter key, and
    the keyboard lit up, but the screen remained black. She pressed the
    power button, and the machine showed "No boot device found". She
    pressed the power button again, and up came the same message. Round
    and round she went.

    I powered up and F12'd into the boot y-menu, and it showed it was set
    to Legacy. Hmmm...that's not a factory install. I changed to UEFI,
    and the machine booted up just fine.

    I powered off and back on, and got "No boot device found".

    I checked the BIOS settings, and sure enough, boot was set to Legacy,
    and Secure boot was disabled. Legacy Option ROMs was enabled.

    How in the world did the boot change from UEFI to Legacy? I'm not
    aware of any human intervention. Very strange.

    I forgot to mention that the first time my wife pressed the power off
    button, Dell's Support Assist came up and said it was doing a hardware
    check. It came back with hardware ok, and then black screened followed
    by the "No boot device found" merry-go-round.


    "She leaves it plugged in and running 24/7."

    And the laptop main battery is removed ?

    What could have happened, is the CR2032 battery is flat, and
    the BIOS has no power for the Southbridge RTC RAM that holds a few of the settings.

    But, it would take complete power loss, to reset the settings.
    And that is missing from the story. The soft power button would not work
    on the thing, unless there was a supervisor voltage present and the
    supervisor voltage can also provide BIOS power.

    The shelf life of a CR2032 is ten years. The small coin cell, the state of
    it is not assured after ten years. The CR2032 battery can drain in a bit less than three years, if a computer has no power whatsoever (is left in the
    junk room). The CR2032 battery lasts longer, if the PC always has power.

    Some computers use an LR2032 instead of a CR2032, and those are rechargeable coin cells. The failure characteristics are different, if a product uses
    an LD2032. Eventually an LR2032 will completely fail as well, and
    will no longer accept a charge. And this can cause the BIOS settings
    to get reset.

    I don't think this is a particular good match for your description,
    but it's about all I've got as an answer.

    Paul

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