• Still no access to Google Groups

    From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 26 20:51:34 2023
    When I try to send, I get the catchpa without any images. I click on
    "I'm not a robot", get a big tick, but nothing else.

    Is this the same for all, or just me?

    Ed

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Sun Nov 26 21:09:21 2023
    Ed Cryer wrote:

    When I try to send, I get the catchpa without any images. I click on
    "I'm not a robot", get a big tick, but nothing else.

    Is this the same for all, or just me?

    I wouldn't normally post via G2, but I just sent a test, it made me tick
    the "I'm not a bot" box, gave me a green tick, no captcha images to
    solve, just click continue ...

    But why not use your E-S account?

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Burns on Sun Nov 26 17:25:42 2023
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:09:21 +0000, Andy
    Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Ed Cryer wrote:

    When I try to send, I get the catchpa without any images. I click on
    "I'm not a robot", get a big tick, but nothing else.

    Is this the same for all, or just me?

    I wouldn't normally post via G2, but I just sent a test, it made me tick
    the "I'm not a bot" box, gave me a green tick, no captcha images to
    solve, just click continue ...

    But why not use your E-S account?

    Slightly related: I registered on an appliance forum yesterday and it
    wouldn't accept my Facebook identity. it said the app was down and the
    owner knew about it. I thought it might be the forum software but it
    let me register with my Google identity. I didn't check if Facebook
    seemed down to me.

    (My washing machine burned out its belt but nothing seems frozen or
    stuck.)

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun Nov 26 21:46:49 2023
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote

    When I try to send, I get the catchpa without any images. I click on
    "I'm not a robot", get a big tick, but nothing else.

    Is this the same for all, or just me?

    I wouldn't normally post via G2, but I just sent a test, it made me tick
    the "I'm not a bot" box, gave me a green tick, no captcha images to
    solve, just click continue ...

    But why not use your E-S account?

    I didn't look at the OP's headers (which may or may not be meaningful), but
    as one who is constantly on various VPNs, I've noticed that Google hates
    VPN (which comes as no surprise to anyone here, I'm sure).

    My point is that the OP might be coming in from a VPN, where Google might
    be doublechecking more fervently than when you came in from a normal IP address.

    I've noticed of the years, for example, that some VPN IP addresses roil the captcha monster more so than others, where some VPNs get the captcha
    monster so upset it won't ever let you in - no matter how many you solve.

    Also...

    It could be what's in the cookies depending on how the OP posted his google groups message. As a relevant example, I helped someone today over the
    phone create a protonmail account - where she couldn't get the Tor Browser
    to verify so we moved to Epic to do the Protonmail account creation.

    Then she tried to make another account on Epic, but Protonmail wouldn't let her. Huh? I instantly told her to wipe out her cookies and change the VPN address (Epic has an easy to use pulldown for that), and then Protonmail
    acted as it did before - but all we changed were cookies & the VPN address.

    My point is Google is both insanely stupid and rather clever at the same
    time, where my advice to the OP is to check his IP address & cookes (if
    he's using a web browser).
    --
    Some people are purposefully helpful while others are here for amusement.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Nov 26 20:51:09 2023
    On 11/26/2023 5:25 PM, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:09:21 +0000, Andy
    Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Ed Cryer wrote:

    When I try to send, I get the catchpa without any images. I click on
    "I'm not a robot", get a big tick, but nothing else.

    Is this the same for all, or just me?

    I wouldn't normally post via G2, but I just sent a test, it made me tick
    the "I'm not a bot" box, gave me a green tick, no captcha images to
    solve, just click continue ...

    But why not use your E-S account?

    Slightly related: I registered on an appliance forum yesterday and it wouldn't accept my Facebook identity. it said the app was down and the
    owner knew about it. I thought it might be the forum software but it
    let me register with my Google identity. I didn't check if Facebook
    seemed down to me.

    (My washing machine burned out its belt but nothing seems frozen or
    stuck.)


    Adjust the tensioner the next time.

    Even when the load is not excessive, if you overdo it
    on the idler wheel, that can be hard on the belt.

    I bought a spare belt for the washer... 33 years ago.
    Never used it. But I do stick a finger on the belt
    when not running, just to see if everything is OK down there.
    I doubt the replacement belt is any good now. Too old.

    I also run the washer, with the front sheet metal piece
    off the machine. It has been running like that for 20 years.
    Why ? Paul likes to see the shizit rotating in there.
    You can also stick a hand on the electric motor and
    check for "overheat". And, if any tubing starts to leak
    in there, then while you're down changing loads, you can spot
    dribbles inside the machine.

    Doing that is "less safe", if there is a major mechanical
    failure when spin-drying. Part of the function of the
    facade of the machine, is keeping bits and pieces inside
    the machine, on a failure.

    The machine cannot break down... because, it knows
    I'm watching it like a hawk.

    *******

    As for GG and the Captcha, be aware that groups like
    comp.lang.c are closed to posting via GG. You could
    ticky the little box there, and no post is going anywhere
    after that. It's blocked. Any where that the Thai Spam
    has been sent, is a potential group for lockout. The
    other groups should still be working.

    Some servers, when a group is blocked, there's a web page
    and a notation indicating the group status. AIOE used to
    block groups occasionally. But this is Google of course...

    Paul

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon Nov 27 09:11:21 2023
    Andy Burns wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:

    When I try to send, I get the catchpa without any images. I click on
    "I'm not a robot", get a big tick, but nothing else.

    Is this the same for all, or just me?

    I wouldn't normally post via G2, but I just sent a test, it made me tick
    the "I'm not a bot" box, gave me a green tick, no captcha images to
    solve, just click continue ...

    But why not use your E-S account?

    I never use Google Groups.
    I'm just trying to satisfy my curiosity.
    I can read NGs there, but not post.
    If nobody can post through GGs, then how do the floods of spam that I
    read about as having come from there get posted?

    Ed

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Mon Nov 27 09:47:34 2023
    Ed Cryer wrote:

    I never use Google Groups.

    Good man.

    I'm just trying to satisfy my curiosity.
    I can read NGs there, but not post.
    If nobody can post through GGs, then how do the floods of spam that I
    read about as having come from there get posted?

    It's just you, see my "from G2" post in uk.test yesterday, some G2
    groups are un-writeable, but not many.

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  • From Peter Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 27 14:15:33 2023
    On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:51:34 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
    wrote:

    When I try to send, I get the catchpa without any images. I click on
    "I'm not a robot", get a big tick, but nothing else.

    Is this the same for all, or just me?

    Probably just you. Try restarting your browser or PC.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to ed@somewhere.in.the.uk on Mon Nov 27 16:54:20 2023
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 27 Nov 2023 09:11:21 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:

    When I try to send, I get the catchpa without any images. I click on
    "I'm not a robot", get a big tick, but nothing else.

    Is this the same for all, or just me?

    I wouldn't normally post via G2, but I just sent a test, it made me tick
    the "I'm not a bot" box, gave me a green tick, no captcha images to
    solve, just click continue ...

    But why not use your E-S account?

    I never use Google Groups.
    I'm just trying to satisfy my curiosity.
    I can read NGs there, but not post.
    If nobody can post through GGs, then how do the floods of spam that I
    read about as having come from there get posted?

    Ed

    AIUI people can post through GG, but if it is a crossposted post, the
    reply only gets sent to one group. I see that as a big liabilty. Some
    people who are participating will never see the reply or replies to it.

    Even the original poster won't see some replies unless he separately
    monitors each group he had posted to.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to nospam@needed.invalid on Sat Dec 2 14:45:15 2023
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:51:09 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 5:25 PM, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:09:21 +0000, Andy
    Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Ed Cryer wrote:

    When I try to send, I get the catchpa without any images. I click on
    "I'm not a robot", get a big tick, but nothing else.

    Is this the same for all, or just me?

    I wouldn't normally post via G2, but I just sent a test, it made me tick >>> the "I'm not a bot" box, gave me a green tick, no captcha images to
    solve, just click continue ...

    But why not use your E-S account?

    Slightly related: I registered on an appliance forum yesterday and it
    wouldn't accept my Facebook identity. it said the app was down and the
    owner knew about it. I thought it might be the forum software but it
    let me register with my Google identity. I didn't check if Facebook
    seemed down to me.

    (My washing machine burned out its belt but nothing seems frozen or
    stuck.)


    Adjust the tensioner the next time.

    I think I was good about that the last time.

    I had tried to increase the tension on the old belt. It's very awkward
    on this machine, rquiring a long pry to move the motor.

    I believe I pressed on the belt and I could press it in a half-inch.
    That seemed like the right amount.

    Even when the load is not excessive, if you overdo it
    on the idler wheel, that can be hard on the belt.

    I bought a spare belt for the washer... 33 years ago.
    Never used it. But I do stick a finger on the belt
    when not running, just to see if everything is OK down there.
    I doubt the replacement belt is any good now. Too old.

    I also run the washer, with the front sheet metal piece

    I don't have a front sheet metal piece, only a rear one. ;-)

    off the machine. It has been running like that for 20 years.
    Why ? Paul likes to see the shizit rotating in there.
    You can also stick a hand on the electric motor and
    check for "overheat". And, if any tubing starts to leak
    in there, then while you're down changing loads, you can spot
    dribbles inside the machine.

    Doing that is "less safe", if there is a major mechanical
    failure when spin-drying. Part of the function of the
    facade of the machine, is keeping bits and pieces inside
    the machine, on a failure.

    The machine cannot break down... because, it knows
    I'm watching it like a hawk.

    I asked on an appliance forum that even had separate sections by makers, including Sears/whirpool, but got to no answer. Other fora are not so
    well organized. I should ask there anyhow because I will run out of
    clothes eventually. I hate web forums. Usenet is so much better.

    *******

    As for GG and the Captcha, be aware that groups like
    comp.lang.c are closed to posting via GG. You could
    ticky the little box there, and no post is going anywhere
    after that. It's blocked. Any where that the Thai Spam
    has been sent, is a potential group for lockout. The
    other groups should still be working.

    Some servers, when a group is blocked, there's a web page
    and a notation indicating the group status. AIOE used to
    block groups occasionally. But this is Google of course...

    Interesting.

    Paul

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