• OT Digital picture frame

    From Graham J@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 22 21:58:49 2023
    Has anybody bought one recently and can make a recomendation, please?
    It would need to capture photos from an Android phone.

    Easily usable by a completely non-technical user.


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    Graham J

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  • From Herbert Kleebauer@21:1/5 to Graham J on Wed Nov 22 23:48:38 2023
    On 22.11.2023 22:58, Graham J wrote:


    Has anybody bought one recently and can make a recomendation, please?
    It would need to capture photos from an Android phone.

    Easily usable by a completely non-technical user.

    Most digital picture frames are big waste of energy. Why display
    a picture when nobody looks at it? And if you power on it
    only if somebody looks at it, then you better use a phone, tablet
    or PC to display the pictures.

    The only exception (but with poor color quality):

    https://www.waveshare.com/photopainter.htm https://www.waveshare.com/wiki/PhotoPainter https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005547336322.html

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Graham J on Wed Nov 22 21:36:04 2023
    On 11/22/2023 4:58 PM, Graham J wrote:
    Has anybody bought one recently and can make a recomendation, please? It would need to capture photos from an Android phone.

    Easily usable by a completely non-technical user.

    As you go upscale, they turn into full fledged computers.

    So naturally, a non-technical user is going to get caught
    in the headlights.

    In the user comments, a user mentioned uploading 166 photos
    to this thing, and then it will only rotate a 50-picture set.
    Which completely negates the idea of having a "giant memory"
    on the unit, if you have to constantly fiddle with it, to
    see your photo collection.

    https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Picture-Frame-15-Inch-Large/dp/B0C6Q5YG9W

    The stupid things should come with an SDK and a copy of
    "C programming for Dummies" :-)

    I'd tell you to "buy a monitor plus an RPi Zero and
    write your own code", but that would be mean. It's
    a matter of "the hardware is fine, the firmware,
    not so much". Which is just as true of my new refrigerator,
    as it is of these picture frames. The next time I buy
    a refrigerator, I'm "going to ask for source code".

    *******

    The largest photo frames, come from TV companies.

    "Art Mode: TV when it's on, Art when it's off"

    https://www.samsung.com/ca/lifestyle-tvs/the-frame/ls03b-65-inch-the-frame-qled-4k-smart-tv-black-qn65ls03bafxzc/

    There are what appear to be user manuals,
    at the bottom of that web page.

    Paul

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Nov 23 20:12:22 2023
    On 2023-11-23 03:36, Paul wrote:
    On 11/22/2023 4:58 PM, Graham J wrote:
    Has anybody bought one recently and can make a recomendation, please? It would need to capture photos from an Android phone.

    Easily usable by a completely non-technical user.

    As you go upscale, they turn into full fledged computers.

    So naturally, a non-technical user is going to get caught
    in the headlights.

    In the user comments, a user mentioned uploading 166 photos
    to this thing, and then it will only rotate a 50-picture set.
    Which completely negates the idea of having a "giant memory"
    on the unit, if you have to constantly fiddle with it, to
    see your photo collection.

    https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Picture-Frame-15-Inch-Large/dp/B0C6Q5YG9W

    The stupid things should come with an SDK and a copy of
    "C programming for Dummies" :-)

    GULPS :-(


    I'd tell you to "buy a monitor plus an RPi Zero and
    write your own code", but that would be mean. It's
    a matter of "the hardware is fine, the firmware,
    not so much". Which is just as true of my new refrigerator,
    as it is of these picture frames. The next time I buy
    a refrigerator, I'm "going to ask for source code".

    :-DD


    *******

    The largest photo frames, come from TV companies.

    "Art Mode: TV when it's on, Art when it's off"

    https://www.samsung.com/ca/lifestyle-tvs/the-frame/ls03b-65-inch-the-frame-qled-4k-smart-tv-black-qn65ls03bafxzc/

    There are what appear to be user manuals,
    at the bottom of that web page.

    A 65" picture frame gobbles a lots of watts.

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    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Thu Nov 23 22:40:48 2023
    On 11/23/2023 2:12 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2023-11-23 03:36, Paul wrote:
    On 11/22/2023 4:58 PM, Graham J wrote:
    Has anybody bought one recently and can make a recomendation, please? It would need to capture photos from an Android phone.

    Easily usable by a completely non-technical user.

    As you go upscale, they turn into full fledged computers.

    So naturally, a non-technical user is going to get caught
    in the headlights.

    In the user comments, a user mentioned uploading 166 photos
    to this thing, and then it will only rotate a 50-picture set.
    Which completely negates the idea of having a "giant memory"
    on the unit, if you have to constantly fiddle with it, to
    see your photo collection.

        https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Picture-Frame-15-Inch-Large/dp/B0C6Q5YG9W

    The stupid things should come with an SDK and a copy of
    "C programming for Dummies" :-)

    GULPS :-(


    I'd tell you to "buy a monitor plus an RPi Zero and
    write your own code", but that would be mean. It's
    a matter of "the hardware is fine, the firmware,
    not so much". Which is just as true of my new refrigerator,
    as it is of these picture frames. The next time I buy
    a refrigerator, I'm "going to ask for source code".

    :-DD


    *******

    The largest photo frames, come from TV companies.

    "Art Mode:  TV when it's on, Art when it's off"

    https://www.samsung.com/ca/lifestyle-tvs/the-frame/ls03b-65-inch-the-frame-qled-4k-smart-tv-black-qn65ls03bafxzc/

    There are what appear to be user manuals,
    at the bottom of that web page.

    A 65" picture frame gobbles a lots of watts.


    This is Swahili for "I turn off the Art Display
    when no one is in the room". It has sensors.
    It can also eavesdrop, record things it is not supposed
    to hear, and so on. You can tell from the product spec,
    the thing is a "tech fortress". I'm pretty sure it has
    an accelerometer and a humidity sensor :-) It knows what
    you ate for lunch.

    Power & Eco Solution

    Eco Sensor Yes
    Power Supply AC 110-120V 50/60Hz
    Power Consumption (Max) 215 W
    Power Consumption (Typical) 90 W
    Power Consumption (Stand-by) 0.5 W
    Auto Power Off Yes
    Auto Power Saving Yes

    It is a bit like some SmartPhones, which are laden with junk.

    Sound Output (RMS) 40 W

    Yowza. Makes you wonder where the speakers are. Soundbar ?

    Paul

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri Nov 24 12:11:26 2023
    On 2023-11-24 04:40, Paul wrote:
    On 11/23/2023 2:12 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2023-11-23 03:36, Paul wrote:


    *******

    The largest photo frames, come from TV companies.

    "Art Mode:  TV when it's on, Art when it's off"

    https://www.samsung.com/ca/lifestyle-tvs/the-frame/ls03b-65-inch-the-frame-qled-4k-smart-tv-black-qn65ls03bafxzc/

    There are what appear to be user manuals,
    at the bottom of that web page.

    A 65" picture frame gobbles a lots of watts.


    This is Swahili for "I turn off the Art Display
    when no one is in the room". It has sensors.
    It can also eavesdrop, record things it is not supposed
    to hear, and so on. You can tell from the product spec,
    the thing is a "tech fortress". I'm pretty sure it has
    an accelerometer and a humidity sensor :-) It knows what
    you ate for lunch.

    Heh :-D


    Power & Eco Solution

    Eco Sensor Yes
    Power Supply AC 110-120V 50/60Hz
    Power Consumption (Max) 215 W
    Power Consumption (Typical) 90 W
    Power Consumption (Stand-by) 0.5 W
    Auto Power Off Yes
    Auto Power Saving Yes

    It is a bit like some SmartPhones, which are laden with junk.

    Sound Output (RMS) 40 W

    Yowza. Makes you wonder where the speakers are. Soundbar ?

    Paul


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    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Peter Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 24 15:32:12 2023
    On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:58:49 +0000, Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk>
    wrote:

    Has anybody bought one recently and can make a recomendation, please?
    It would need to capture photos from an Android phone.

    Easily usable by a completely non-technical user.

    I'm on my second Nixplay (https://www.nixplay.com/) frame.
    Users upload pics onto their websire and it downloads them to the
    frame via internet and local wifi or they can be emailed or
    transferred from the user's social media accounts.
    Mine has capacity for 2000 images, rotated at random, and has a motion
    sensor so that it turns off if there's no one about.
    (Designed to be given to aged parents and grandparents &c [1] and
    operated remotely by offspring or great-offspring who live a long way
    away to keep them uptodate with family happenings.)

    [1] Who are deemed to be incapable of coping with tech.

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri Nov 24 16:48:01 2023
    Paul wrote:

    Power & Eco Solution

    Eco Sensor Yes
    Power Supply AC 110-120V 50/60Hz
    Power Consumption (Max) 215 W
    Power Consumption (Typical) 90 W
    Power Consumption (Stand-by) 0.5 W
    Auto Power Off Yes
    Auto Power Saving Yes

    It is a bit like some SmartPhones, which are laden with junk.

    Sound Output (RMS) 40 W

    Yowza. Makes you wonder where the speakers are. Soundbar ?

    Paul

    That is a lot of power draw.
    It probably functions as a space heater, too.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Paul in Houston TX on Fri Nov 24 21:24:42 2023
    On 11/24/2023 5:48 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
    Paul wrote:

    Power & Eco Solution

         Eco Sensor  Yes
         Power Supply  AC 110-120V 50/60Hz
         Power Consumption (Max)            215 W
         Power Consumption (Typical)        90 W
         Power Consumption (Stand-by)       0.5 W
         Auto Power Off                     Yes
         Auto Power Saving                  Yes

    It is a bit like some SmartPhones, which are laden with junk.

         Sound Output (RMS)                 40 W

    Yowza. Makes you wonder where the speakers are. Soundbar ?

        Paul

    That is a lot of power draw.
    It probably functions as a space heater, too.


    It's 120Hz capable. It would probably convert your movie to 120Hz for
    you and make it "silky smooth", all while heating the room.
    I wonder how you cool such a flat device and dissipate
    215 watts. Hmmm.

    The other thing I didn't show you, was there is an accessory
    for the device, that rotates the entire panel on the wall.
    So that if something requires "viewing in portrait", the
    device rotates for best effect. No corny ideas were rejected
    at the product planning session.

    Paul

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Nov 25 03:52:35 2023
    On 2023-11-25 03:24, Paul wrote:
    On 11/24/2023 5:48 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
    Paul wrote:

    Power & Eco Solution

         Eco Sensor  Yes
         Power Supply  AC 110-120V 50/60Hz
         Power Consumption (Max)            215 W
         Power Consumption (Typical)        90 W
         Power Consumption (Stand-by)       0.5 W
         Auto Power Off                     Yes
         Auto Power Saving                  Yes

    It is a bit like some SmartPhones, which are laden with junk.

         Sound Output (RMS)                 40 W

    Yowza. Makes you wonder where the speakers are. Soundbar ?

        Paul

    That is a lot of power draw.
    It probably functions as a space heater, too.


    It's 120Hz capable. It would probably convert your movie to 120Hz for
    you and make it "silky smooth", all while heating the room.
    I wonder how you cool such a flat device and dissipate
    215 watts. Hmmm.

    Dissipate 300 watts is not an issue on a thing that is 60 inches plus in diagonal, even if it is wrapped in wool insulation ;-p



    The other thing I didn't show you, was there is an accessory
    for the device, that rotates the entire panel on the wall.
    So that if something requires "viewing in portrait", the
    device rotates for best effect. No corny ideas were rejected
    at the product planning session.

    :-DD

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    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Nov 25 08:51:32 2023
    Paul wrote:

    It's 120Hz capable. It would probably convert your movie to 120Hz for
    you and make it "silky smooth", all while heating the room.
    I wonder how you cool such a flat device and dissipate
    215 watts.

    Don't know about that model in particular, but some of the "picture
    frame" TVs have a single flat cable feeding power and processed image to
    the screen, and an external "brick" containing PSU/tuner/processor and
    all the input sockets

    Actually yes, Samsung call the brick a "one connect box" here's one
    pictured with a human for scale

    <https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/what-is-the-samsung-one-connect-box.html>

    The current model is 330 x 292 x 41 mm

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