• Printout of a circle on a Google Map with area of 23 square miles

    From Patrick@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 21 15:47:12 2023
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    The North Sentinel Island has an area of 23 square miles.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island

    Is there a way to draw a circle from my home that encompasses 23 square
    miles to show my kids how big that is for a population of 100 people?

    A search shows 23 square miles is a radius of 2.7 miles. https://coolconversion.com/geometry/circle/area/index.php
    Radius = 2.7 miles
    Diameter = 5.4 miles
    Circumference = 17 miles
    Area = 23 square miles

    Is there a way to draw a circle on a Google Map of radius 2.7 miles?
    I want to print it and cut it out to show the kids what it would be.

    Crudely I can right click and "Measure distance" a few times to approximate
    a circle on a Google Map but is there a tool that does it already for you?

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Patrick on Tue Nov 21 22:03:28 2023
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    On 21/11/2023, Patrick wrote:

    The North Sentinel Island has an area of 23 square miles.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island

    Is there a way to draw a circle from my home that encompasses 23 square
    miles to show my kids how big that is for a population of 100 people?

    A search shows 23 square miles is a radius of 2.7 miles. https://coolconversion.com/geometry/circle/area/index.php
    Radius = 2.7 miles
    Diameter = 5.4 miles
    Circumference = 17 miles
    Area = 23 square miles

    Is there a way to draw a circle on a Google Map of radius 2.7 miles?
    I want to print it and cut it out to show the kids what it would be.

    Crudely I can right click and "Measure distance" a few times to approximate
    a circle on a Google Map but is there a tool that does it already for you?

    I don't know of any way to do it with Google maps but Reddit had this. https://www.abcsupply.com/locations/ which shows areas from zip codes.

    Maybe you can tweak the nuke map by guessing at the kilotons? https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Patrick on Tue Nov 21 17:03:32 2023
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    On 2023-11-21 16:47, Patrick wrote:
    The North Sentinel Island has an area of 23 square miles.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island

    Is there a way to draw a circle from my home that encompasses 23 square
    miles to show my kids how big that is for a population of 100 people?

    A search shows 23 square miles is a radius of 2.7 miles. https://coolconversion.com/geometry/circle/area/index.php
    Radius = 2.7 miles
    Diameter = 5.4 miles
    Circumference = 17 miles
    Area = 23 square miles

    Is there a way to draw a circle on a Google Map of radius 2.7 miles?
    I want to print it and cut it out to show the kids what it would be.

    Crudely I can right click and "Measure distance" a few times to approximate
    a circle on a Google Map but is there a tool that does it already for you?

    If you're using Google Earth Pro (the application on a Mac, PC or
    Linux), use the "Ruler" tool, Circle, set it to the units you want and
    go to town. (It's a free program).

    Use the polygon tool to do more useful things, perhaps.

    And really, do it in metric. Time for the kids to grow up.

    --
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    - John Maynard Keynes.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Patrick on Tue Nov 21 21:54:34 2023
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    Patrick wrote:

    Is there a way to draw a circle on a Google Map of radius 2.7 miles?

    Yep ...

    <https://www.mapdevelopers.com/draw-circle-tool.php>

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Patrick on Tue Nov 21 22:37:06 2023
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    Patrick wrote on Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:22:02 -0600 :

    <https://www.mapdevelopers.com/draw-circle-tool.php>

    That's almost perfect (the zoom is difficult to deal with) where I've
    already made an image and cut it out and surrounded it by blue water.

    Zoom into these coordinates 11.593475817034484, 92.21243727243831

    https://www.google.com/maps/@11.593431,92.212264,285m/data=!3m1!1e3

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  • From Patrick@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Tue Nov 21 16:22:02 2023
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    On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:54:34 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:
    Is there a way to draw a circle on a Google Map of radius 2.7 miles?

    Yep ...

    <https://www.mapdevelopers.com/draw-circle-tool.php>

    That's almost perfect (the zoom is difficult to deal with) where I've
    already made an image and cut it out and surrounded it by blue water.

    It's for a project at school where the topic is people who just want to be
    left alone and this island has somewhere around 100 people just like that.

    She asked me "how big is the island" and I said it was "about as big as Manhattan Island" or "San Marino" which makes no sense to a 3rd grader.

    I needed something localized as if the school was at the center of North Sentinel Island.

    The goal is to center it at the local elementary school so that my kid
    could show the project to other kids and it will have a size/density impact
    on them given each classroom has about 25 students so it's four classrooms
    of people in that 23 square mile area who just want to be left all alone.

    Thank you for that map circle tool.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Andrew on Tue Nov 21 18:05:12 2023
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    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:37:06 -0000 (UTC),
    Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

    Patrick wrote on Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:22:02 -0600 :

    <https://www.mapdevelopers.com/draw-circle-tool.php>

    That's almost perfect (the zoom is difficult to deal with) where I've
    already made an image and cut it out and surrounded it by blue water.

    Zoom into these coordinates 11.593475817034484, 92.21243727243831

    https://www.google.com/maps/@11.593431,92.212264,285m/data=!3m1!1e3

    North Sentinal Island is mostly a lagoon. I suspect that area of the
    lagoon is including in the 23 square miles even though no humans live
    there.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to patrick@oleary.com on Tue Nov 21 18:01:18 2023
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    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:47:12 -0600, Patrick <patrick@oleary.com> wrote:

    The North Sentinel Island has an area of 23 square >miles.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island

    Is there a way to draw a circle from my home that encompasses 23 square
    miles to show my kids how big that is for a population of 100 people?

    A search shows 23 square miles is a radius of 2.7 miles. >https://coolconversion.com/geometry/circle/area/index.php
    Radius = 2.7 miles
    Diameter = 5.4 miles
    Circumference = 17 miles
    Area = 23 square miles

    Is there a way to draw a circle on a Google Map of radius 2.7 miles?
    I want to print it and cut it out to show the kids what it would be.

    My gosh, if you're going to print it, then ignore all these complicated suggestions involving software. Measure and draw your circle on the
    paper printout.

    Before you print use Measure Distance to find two spots that are 2.7
    miles apart and write down wwhere they are. One could be any
    intersection or identifiable spot, and you can find one re-findable spot
    that is 2.7 miles away.

    Then print it, then set your compass (Compass_(drawing_tool) in
    wikipedia, the one with a point on one leg and a pencil on the other).
    Set your compass to the distance of those two identified spots, then
    move the pointed end to the center of your circle and draw your circle
    on the paper printout.


    Crudely I can right click and "Measure distance" a few times to approximate
    a circle on a Google Map but is there a tool that does it already for you?

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  • From Big Al@21:1/5 to this is what micky on Tue Nov 21 18:18:01 2023
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    On 11/21/23 06:05 PM, this is what micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:37:06 -0000 (UTC),
    Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

    Patrick wrote on Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:22:02 -0600 :

    <https://www.mapdevelopers.com/draw-circle-tool.php>

    That's almost perfect (the zoom is difficult to deal with) where I've
    already made an image and cut it out and surrounded it by blue water.

    Zoom into these coordinates 11.593475817034484, 92.21243727243831

    https://www.google.com/maps/@11.593431,92.212264,285m/data=!3m1!1e3

    North Sentinal Island is mostly a lagoon. I suspect that area of the
    lagoon is including in the 23 square miles even though no humans live
    there.
    Don't know about that lagoon idea. I zoomed in and I can see trees for the entire area of the island.
    --
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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Bears@invalid.com on Tue Nov 21 21:35:25 2023
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    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:18:01 -0500, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 11/21/23 06:05 PM, this is what micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:37:06 -0000 (UTC),
    Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

    Patrick wrote on Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:22:02 -0600 :

    <https://www.mapdevelopers.com/draw-circle-tool.php>

    That's almost perfect (the zoom is difficult to deal with) where I've
    already made an image and cut it out and surrounded it by blue water.

    Zoom into these coordinates 11.593475817034484, 92.21243727243831

    https://www.google.com/maps/@11.593431,92.212264,285m/data=!3m1!1e3

    North Sentinal Island is mostly a lagoon. I suspect that area of the
    lagoon is including in the 23 square miles even though no humans live
    there.
    Don't know about that lagoon idea. I zoomed in and I can see trees for the entire area of the island.

    You're right. My bad.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to micky on Wed Nov 22 06:05:19 2023
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    micky wrote on Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:35:25 -0500 :

    Zoom into these coordinates 11.593475817034484, 92.21243727243831

    https://www.google.com/maps/@11.593431,92.212264,285m/data=!3m1!1e3

    North Sentinal Island is mostly a lagoon. I suspect that area of the
    lagoon is including in the 23 square miles even though no humans live
    there.
    Don't know about that lagoon idea. I zoomed in and I can see trees for the entire area of the island.

    You're right. My bad.

    That boat is the HMS Primrose, a 16Kton freighter that ran aground. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/hair-raising-story-behind-mysterious-shipwreck-off-north-sentinel-island/7UWWHDCA35XKJ2Q3PGRXMBXYNQ/

    Salacious story here. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6444621/Cargo-ship-bound-Australia-met-fate-missionary-ran-aground-attacked-tribe.html

    You're supposed to know the story of that island, which is different from
    any other island in the entire world in that the natives have been isolated since the ice age left them stranded and they kill anyone who visits them. https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/exploration-survival/john-allen-chau-life-death-north-sentinel/

    Pretty much they kill everyone who lands on the island who won't leave. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/03/john-chau-christian-missionary-death-sentinelese

    This guy haughtily thought he was invincible, but it turns out he wasn't. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/study-sheds-more-light-on-killing-of-american-by-sentinels/article61988071.ece

    It's a good bedtime story for the kids, with a moral, don't you think.

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  • From kelown@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 22 03:13:30 2023
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    the natives have been isolated
    since the ice age left them stranded and they kill anyone who visits them. https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/exploration-survival/john-allen-chau-life-death-north-sentinel/

    It's unlikely that they've occupied that island since the Ice Age. There
    are several online pics of the North Sentinelese being normal friendly
    hosts to visitors. That changed after the natives learned that the
    visitors brought death with them in the form of disease.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to kelown on Wed Nov 22 10:36:47 2023
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    kelown wrote on Wed, 22 Nov 2023 03:13:30 -0600 :

    the natives have been isolated
    since the ice age left them stranded and they kill anyone who visits them. >> https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/exploration-survival/john-allen-chau-life-death-north-sentinel/

    It's unlikely that they've occupied that island since the Ice Age.

    The anthropologists think that they arrived well before the ice age.
    The only significance of the ice age is that's what stranded them.

    https://pages.vassar.edu/realarchaeology/2023/10/01/what-can-the-north-sentinelese-tell-us-about-the-past/
    https://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/sentinelese https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1109987 https://academic.oup.com/gbe/article/7/5/1206/604030 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982202013362 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707605163 https://bioone.org/journals/human-biology/volume-85/issue-1_2f_3/027.085.0307/The-Andaman-Islanders-in-a-Regional-Genetic-Context--Reexamining/10.3378/027.085.0307.short

    There
    are several online pics of the North Sentinelese being normal friendly
    hosts to visitors.

    I know all about them as I know the story of every person documented to
    have visited the island, some of whom left with an arrow in their thigh. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/north-sentinel-islanders-live-in-isolation

    That changed after the natives learned that the
    visitors brought death with them in the form of disease.

    Each "visit" starts and ends the same as the pattern keeps repeating.
    Here's the pattern from the adventure seeker who would have killed them. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2277436X19844882

    It's a good story for the kids that some people just want to be left alone.

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