On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I
was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy >Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
Win95 was the first version I've ever used.
Out of curiosity, I did go back and try all previous versions. Even all the way back to DOS 1
Win95 was the first version I've ever used.
Out of curiosity, I did go back and try all previous versions. Even all
the way back to DOS 1
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone ? its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I
was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Joel Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:1985 to 2023 is 38 years.
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone ? its 40th birthday.
Birthday, yes. First release, no. As the linked article and Wikipedia
say, first release was not until *two years later*.
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/history/history-of-microsoft-1983>
"November 10, 1983
Microsoft unveils Windows, an extension of the MS-DOS operating system
that provides a graphical operating environment. Windows features a
window management capability that allows a user to view unrelated
application programs simultaneously. It also provides the capability to
transfer data from one application program to another. Windows wouldn't
actually ship until 2 years later."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows>
"Initial release November 20, 1985; 37 years ago"
So it's a bit early to have a party! :-)
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I
was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy
Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Used Windows 1.0 on my ~12000$ 386 system. Then 3.x. Then NT and the
rest (on newer hardware).
Joel Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I >>was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy >>Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
I also have seen Win2.x, in the flesh. Interesting predecessor of
what was to be a successful platform, in 3.
On 11/11/23 08:55 AM, this is what Frank Slootweg wrote:
Joel Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone ? its 40th birthday.
Birthday, yes. First release, no. As the linked article and Wikipedia say, first release was not until *two years later*.
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/history/history-of-microsoft-1983>
"November 10, 1983
Microsoft unveils Windows, an extension of the MS-DOS operating system
that provides a graphical operating environment. Windows features a
window management capability that allows a user to view unrelated
application programs simultaneously. It also provides the capability to
transfer data from one application program to another. Windows wouldn't
actually ship until 2 years later."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows>
"Initial release November 20, 1985; 37 years ago"
So it's a bit early to have a party! :-)
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I
was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy
Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Used Windows 1.0 on my ~12000$ 386 system. Then 3.x. Then NT and the rest (on newer hardware).
1985 to 2023 is 38 years.
Joel Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone ? its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I
was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy
Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Used Windows 1.0 on my ~12000$ 386 system. Then 3.x. Then NT and the
rest (on newer hardware).
In alt.comp.os.windows-11 Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:I knew someone would catch that 10 day calculation error. 😀
On 11/11/23 08:55 AM, this is what Frank Slootweg wrote:
Joel Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone ? its 40th birthday.
Birthday, yes. First release, no. As the linked article and Wikipedia >>> say, first release was not until *two years later*.
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/history/history-of-microsoft-1983> >>>
"November 10, 1983
Microsoft unveils Windows, an extension of the MS-DOS operating system >>> that provides a graphical operating environment. Windows features a
window management capability that allows a user to view unrelated
application programs simultaneously. It also provides the capability to >>> transfer data from one application program to another. Windows wouldn't >>> actually ship until 2 years later."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows>
"Initial release November 20, 1985; 37 years ago"
So it's a bit early to have a party! :-)
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I >>>> was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy >>>> Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Used Windows 1.0 on my ~12000$ 386 system. Then 3.x. Then NT and the >>> rest (on newer hardware).
1985 to 2023 is 38 years.
I assume you refer to the above "37 years ago". If so, true but it
isn't November 20 yet, at least not here! :-)
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:[...]
Joel Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I
was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy
Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Used Windows 1.0 on my ~12000$ 386 system. Then 3.x. Then NT and the
rest (on newer hardware).
Interesting. We had 3.1x/9x until 2000 was available. From there,
Vista was all I never had, though.
On 11/11/2023 7:57 AM, philo wrote:
Win95 was the first version I've ever used.
Out of curiosity, I did go back and try all previous versions. Even all the way back to DOS 1
Did Office have the Ribbon back then ? :-)
Paul
Used Windows 1.0 on my ~12000$ 386 system. Then 3.x. Then NT and the
rest (on newer hardware).
Interesting. We had 3.1x/9x until 2000 was available. From there,
Vista was all I never had, though.
I never had a real need for 9x, but maybe that was because we had
Real Computers (TM) with Internet at work (and (work-at)home).
Besides the Real Computers, I mainly used NT/2000 at work (and
(work-at)home). After that, privately, I used XP through 11, except 7.
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
Used Windows 1.0 on my ~12000$ 386 system. Then 3.x. Then NT and the
rest (on newer hardware).
Interesting. We had 3.1x/9x until 2000 was available. From there,
Vista was all I never had, though.
I never had a real need for 9x, but maybe that was because we had
Real Computers (TM) with Internet at work (and (work-at)home).
Besides the Real Computers, I mainly used NT/2000 at work (and
(work-at)home). After that, privately, I used XP through 11, except 7.
You upgraded Vista to 8, then?
You upgraded Vista to 8, then?
Yes, went from Vista to 8[.1], but on a new computer (laptop), so no
upgrade, but a new install(ation). The only actual upgrade (i.e. on the
same hardware) was from 8.1 to 10 on SWMBO's laptop/'desktop'.
On 11/11/23 11:13 AM, this is what Frank Slootweg wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-11 Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:I knew someone would catch that 10 day calculation error. 😀
On 11/11/23 08:55 AM, this is what Frank Slootweg wrote:
Joel Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone ? its 40th birthday.
   Birthday, yes. First release, no. As the linked article and Wikipedia
say, first release was not until *two years later*.
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/history/history-of-microsoft-1983>
"November 10, 1983
  Microsoft unveils Windows, an extension of the MS-DOS operating system
  that provides a graphical operating environment. Windows features a >>>>   window management capability that allows a user to view unrelated >>>>   application programs simultaneously. It also provides the capability to
  transfer data from one application program to another. Windows wouldn't
  actually ship until 2 years later."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows>
"Initial release     November 20, 1985; 37 years ago"
   So it's a bit early to have a party! :-)
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I >>>>> was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy >>>>> Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key. >>>>   Used Windows 1.0 on my ~12000$ 386 system. Then 3.x. Then NT and the
rest (on newer hardware).
1985 to 2023 is 38 years.
  I assume you refer to the above "37 years ago". If so, true but it
isn't November 20 yet, at least not here! :-)
Used Windows 1.0 on my ~12000$ 386 system. Then 3.x. Then NT and the
rest (on newer hardware).
Frank Slootweg was thinking very hard :
Used Windows 1.0 on my ~12000$ 386 system. Then 3.x. Then NT and the
rest (on newer hardware).
my first pc in 1989 was MSDOS 4.0 with Windows 2 (soon updated to 3)
and Excel 2 in bundle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amstrad_PC2286
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I
was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
On 11/11/2023 03:08, Joel Crump wrote:
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Well, I can count something before Windows.
MS. Dos, and before that CP/M.
But, indeed, Windows started with 3. It was wonderfull in these days!
Fokke Nauta
On 11/11/2023 03:08, Joel Crump wrote:
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I
was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy
Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Well, I can count something before Windows.
MS. Dos, and before that CP/M.
But, indeed, Windows started with 3. It was wonderfull in these days!
My first "proper" PC (having previously had an Acorn BBC Micro) was an Amstrad PC1640 in the mid-80s. Just MSDOS, possibly version 3. I remember it had a massive 20MB hard drive.
On 11/11/23 7:57 AM, philo wrote:
Win95 was the first version I've ever used.
Out of curiosity, I did go back and try all previous versions. Even
all the way back to DOS 1
And the pity is that when Windows was originally developed, MS chose to
make if nothing but a glorified graphic front end overlay onto DOS.
They
did it this way instead of creating a clean, from the ground up system
so the installed base of primitive devices could run it thereby
protecting their franchise.
90% of Windows "issues" are caused by this kludge
John Hall pretended :
My first "proper" PC (having previously had an Acorn BBC Micro) was an
Amstrad PC1640 in the mid-80s. Just MSDOS, possibly version 3. I
remember it had a massive 20MB hard drive.
trying to remember whether DOS 3 still had the 33Mb partition limit...
DOS 4 probably improved it, my HDD was 40Mb in a single partition :)
For me, anything that switched from cooperative multitasking
to preemptive multitasking, was night and day difference on
reliability.
With cooperative multitasking (which doesn't leave the OS "in control"), boxes would crash or misbehave once or twice a day. The experience
was only as good as the least-reliable software running at the time.
With preemptive multitasking (WinNT/Win2K/WinXP...), it was finally
a real OS.
Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:
On 11/11/2023 03:08, Joel Crump wrote:
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I >>> was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy >>> Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Well, I can count something before Windows.
MS. Dos, and before that CP/M.
I had CP/M for an Apple II system. We had all kinds of floppy disks
of stuff.
But, indeed, Windows started with 3. It was wonderfull in these days!
Win2.x was cool, but never really had enough of a foothold in the
market, 3.x was an unbelievable and venerable success, and 95 through
Me thrived as successors, with XP finally merging home and business
use (along with a major Win2000 service pack that made it equally
functional as a 9x upgrade).
On 11/11/2023 03:08, Joel Crump wrote:
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time,
I was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to
buy Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Well, I can count something before Windows.
MS. Dos, and before that CP/M.
But, indeed, Windows started with 3. It was wonderfull in these days!
On 14/11/2023 03:29, Joel wrote:
Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:
On 11/11/2023 03:08, Joel Crump wrote:
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I >>>> was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy >>>> Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Well, I can count something before Windows.
MS. Dos, and before that CP/M.
I had CP/M for an Apple II system. We had all kinds of floppy disks
of stuff.
Yes, those were the days of the floppy disks!
But, indeed, Windows started with 3. It was wonderfull in these days!
Win2.x was cool, but never really had enough of a foothold in the
market, 3.x was an unbelievable and venerable success, and 95 through
Me thrived as successors, with XP finally merging home and business
use (along with a major Win2000 service pack that made it equally
functional as a 9x upgrade).
Never realized that there was a Windows version 2.
I always thought that after DOS, Windows 3 was the first version.
On 14/11/2023 03:29, Joel wrote:
Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:
Never realized that there was a Windows version 2.
I always thought that after DOS, Windows 3 was the first version.
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]
For me, anything that switched from cooperative multitasking
to preemptive multitasking, was night and day difference on
reliability.
I/'we' already did/used preemptive multitasking in the (very) early
70s, just not on 'PC's! :-)
First (HP) RTE (Real-Time Executive) and (by others) MPE
(Multi-Programming Executive) and then UNIX (HP-UX).
For the adminstrative tasks, mainly tracking of technical customer
support calls, we used (MS) Windows systems. Luckily, I started with
Windows NT, etc., so non of the preemptive multitasking stuff.
Privately, I mainly use some form of DOS (MS-DOS and DR DOS), if
needed with some kind of taskswitcher/multitasker. Use of Windows (1.x/2.x/3.x) was minimal.
With cooperative multitasking (which doesn't leave the OS "in control"),
boxes would crash or misbehave once or twice a day. The experience
was only as good as the least-reliable software running at the time.
With preemptive multitasking (WinNT/Win2K/WinXP...), it was finally
a real OS.
On 2023-11-14 14:40, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 14/11/2023 03:29, Joel wrote:
Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:
...
Never realized that there was a Windows version 2.
I always thought that after DOS, Windows 3 was the first version.
The first one that was usable enough.
I/'we' already did/used preemptive multitasking in the (very) early
70s, just not on 'PC's! :-)
But, indeed, Windows started with 3. It was wonderfull in these days!
Win2.x was cool, but never really had enough of a foothold in the
market, 3.x was an unbelievable and venerable success, and 95 through
Me thrived as successors, with XP finally merging home and business
use (along with a major Win2000 service pack that made it equally
functional as a 9x upgrade).
Never realized that there was a Windows version 2.
I always thought that after DOS, Windows 3 was the first version.
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-11-14 14:40, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 14/11/2023 03:29, Joel wrote:
Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:
...
Never realized that there was a Windows version 2.
I always thought that after DOS, Windows 3 was the first version.
The first one that was usable enough.
Well, some smart Dutch guy managed quite well with 1.0, but perhaps
that's a temperament thing, it's much colder here! :-)
Just kidding! I didn't do all that much with 1.0, nor with my
'illegal' copy of 2.x. I bought the 386 version of 1.0, but had more
success with the 286 version (on my 640KB+1MB system).
On 11/14/2023 8:26 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]
We had Unix boxes at the time, but there wasn't always a DTP to use.
There might have been Interleaf, but because we never seemed to have
a copy, there wasn't much chance of promoting its usage. In fact, our
Unix boxes (for CAD work) were a software ghetto. You should have seen what
I went through, to get my first browser (and then, have it taken away).
We used Lynx when we needed to visit the web, on those machines. Ugh!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleaf
Someone in the audience, has seen this :-/ The hell that is Lynx.
I'm sure Facebook supports this browser. It even had cookies added to it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_%28web_browser%29#/media/File:Lynx-wikipedia.png
On 2023-11-14 16:27, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-11-14 14:40, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 14/11/2023 03:29, Joel wrote:
Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:
...
Never realized that there was a Windows version 2.
I always thought that after DOS, Windows 3 was the first version.
The first one that was usable enough.
Well, some smart Dutch guy managed quite well with 1.0, but perhaps that's a temperament thing, it's much colder here! :-)
Just kidding! I didn't do all that much with 1.0, nor with my
'illegal' copy of 2.x. I bought the 386 version of 1.0, but had more success with the 286 version (on my 640KB+1MB system).
I tried something that said "windows" but all it did after some time was
to paint a logo. My machine was a plain 8086.
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-11-14 16:27, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-11-14 14:40, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 14/11/2023 03:29, Joel wrote:
Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:
...
Never realized that there was a Windows version 2.
I always thought that after DOS, Windows 3 was the first version.
The first one that was usable enough.
Well, some smart Dutch guy managed quite well with 1.0, but perhaps
that's a temperament thing, it's much colder here! :-)
Just kidding! I didn't do all that much with 1.0, nor with my
'illegal' copy of 2.x. I bought the 386 version of 1.0, but had more
success with the 286 version (on my 640KB+1MB system).
I tried something that said "windows" but all it did after some time was
to paint a logo. My machine was a plain 8086.
I had a blazingly fast - no less than 16MHz - 386 and a DX one at
that, not such a cheap lowly SX! :-)
32 bits data *and* address width, not just the measly 24 address width
of the SX! (Heavens knows why that would be important, but some people
are easily impressed and as a consequence pay thtough the nose! :-))
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I386>
Picture of the/my beast (but the SX version):
'HP Vectra QS/16s'
<https://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=222>
On 2023-11-14 20:33, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-11-14 16:27, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-11-14 14:40, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 14/11/2023 03:29, Joel wrote:
Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:
...
Never realized that there was a Windows version 2.
I always thought that after DOS, Windows 3 was the first version.
The first one that was usable enough.
Well, some smart Dutch guy managed quite well with 1.0, but perhaps >>> that's a temperament thing, it's much colder here! :-)
Just kidding! I didn't do all that much with 1.0, nor with my
'illegal' copy of 2.x. I bought the 386 version of 1.0, but had more
success with the 286 version (on my 640KB+1MB system).
I tried something that said "windows" but all it did after some time was >> to paint a logo. My machine was a plain 8086.
I had a blazingly fast - no less than 16MHz - 386 and a DX one at
that, not such a cheap lowly SX! :-)
On the 80's, I had an 8086. On 1991 I had a 386SX.
32 bits data *and* address width, not just the measly 24 address width of the SX! (Heavens knows why that would be important, but some people
are easily impressed and as a consequence pay thtough the nose! :-))
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I386>
Picture of the/my beast (but the SX version):
'HP Vectra QS/16s'
<https://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=222>
Oh, an HP! :)
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-11-14 20:33, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-11-14 16:27, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-11-14 14:40, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 14/11/2023 03:29, Joel wrote:
Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:
I tried something that said "windows" but all it did after some time was >>>> to paint a logo. My machine was a plain 8086.
I had a blazingly fast - no less than 16MHz - 386 and a DX one at
that, not such a cheap lowly SX! :-)
On the 80's, I had an 8086. On 1991 I had a 386SX.
I got my 386DX in June 1989 (just checked the invoice).
32 bits data *and* address width, not just the measly 24 address width >>> of the SX! (Heavens knows why that would be important, but some people
are easily impressed and as a consequence pay thtough the nose! :-))
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I386>
Picture of the/my beast (but the SX version):
'HP Vectra QS/16s'
<https://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=222>
Oh, an HP! :)
Yes, I worked for HP. The list price of the system (hardware and
software) was some Dfl 26,000 (some 12,000 Euro *without* inflation). I
got a big employee discount and tax advantage, otherwise I of course couldn't/wouldn't afford it. IIRC, after all deductions, it was still
some Dfl 5,000. Heh, it is (was) only money! :-)
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I
was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
On 11/11/2023 02:08, Joel Crump wrote:
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time,
I was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to
buy Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
I can remember Windows 3. I thought it had already come out before I
started a new job in 1989, but Wikipedia says it was launched in 1990.
I did try installing Windows 286 on one of my early PCs. Would it had
run on an 8086-based PC (not sure how much memory)? Maybe I installed it
on my next PC, with an 80286 processor. Either way, it ran like a
wounded snail :-(
Windows 95 was the first "modern" version of Windows, the ancestor in UI terms of all subsequent versions. Was it the first one to be an
operating system in its own right, without the need to boot to DOS and
then start Windows from there?
On 11/11/2023 03:08, Joel Crump wrote:
On 11/10/2023 7:01 PM, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long time, I
was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead Software to buy
Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the now-familiar product key.
Well, I can count something before Windows.
MS. Dos, and before that CP/M.
But, indeed, Windows started with 3. It was wonderfull in these days!
Fokke Nauta
I had CP/M for an Apple II system. We had all kinds of floppy disks
of stuff.
But, indeed, Windows started with 3. It was wonderfull in these days!
Win2.x was cool, but never really had enough of a foothold in the
market, 3.x was an unbelievable and venerable success, and 95 through
Me thrived as successors, with XP finally merging home and business
use (along with a major Win2000 service pack that made it equally
functional as a 9x upgrade).
Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:
Joel Crump wrote:
Good Guy wrote:
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
I don't count anything before 3.x. But that's a hell of a long
time, I was 13, 18 when 95 hit. But I stood in line at Egghead
Software to buy Windows 95 on CD-ROM media, introducing the
now-familiar product key.
Well, I can count something before Windows.
MS. Dos, and before that CP/M.
But, indeed, Windows started with 3. It was wonderfull in these days!
There was actually a WIndows 1 (which came on a single 5.25" floppy). Somebody gave me a pirated version which I never installed as I'd read reviews calling it crap (on a scale of 1 to 10 the reviewer would have
used a negative number) and I presume I eventually pitched it with the
last of my 5.25" floppies 2 or 3 years after my 5.25" drive yielded up
the ghost.
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:[...]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows_version_history
Version 1 was released Nov 20, 1985, so "Windows" is just over 38 years
old. 3.1x doesn't count any more than 1.0 since Windows back then was a
GUI shell atop DOS. Don't know where 40 years came from other than a
coarse estimate. Good Guy isn't all that accurate in his posts. I
VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:[...]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows_version_history
Version 1 was released Nov 20, 1985, so "Windows" is just over 38 years
old. 3.1x doesn't count any more than 1.0 since Windows back then was a
GUI shell atop DOS. Don't know where 40 years came from other than a
coarse estimate. Good Guy isn't all that accurate in his posts. I
I already mentioned on November 11 [1] that GG's claim
Microsoft Windows just hit a major milestone — its 40th birthday.
</GG>
is 'correct' in the sense that it was the *birthday* of Windows, not the first *release*, which was not until *two years later*.
[Repeat of relevant URL and quote:]
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/history/history-of-microsoft-1983>
"November 10, 1983
Microsoft unveils Windows, an extension of the MS-DOS operating system
that provides a graphical operating environment. Windows features a
window management capability that allows a user to view unrelated
application programs simultaneously. It also provides the capability to
transfer data from one application program to another. Windows wouldn't
actually ship until 2 years later."
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