So after 13 years I purchased a new computer. It comes with an i9-13950HX CPU, 32 GB DDR5 Memory, NVMe Drive, and RTX 4060. A lot of times I feel it is slower than my old 13 year 2 core computer. I did get rid of the swap file which helped a little. But at times I still see a little rotating circle when starting programs. I thought programs would pop up but they don't. So there has to be something I need to reset. So I am assuming all of you have overcome this rotating circle issue because I do not hear any complaints about it.
So after 13 years I purchased a new computer. It comes with an
i9-13950HX CPU, 32 GB DDR5 Memory, NVMe Drive, and RTX 4060. A lot
of times I feel it is slower than my old 13 year 2 core computer. I
did get rid of the swap file which helped a little. But at times I
still see a little rotating circle when starting programs. I thought programs would pop up but they don't. So there has to be something I
need to reset. So I am assuming all of you have overcome this
rotating circle issue because I do not hear any complaints about it.
---
<Bill>
Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska
So after 13 years I purchased a new computer. It comes with an i9-13950HX CPU, 32 GB DDR5 Memory, NVMe Drive, and RTX 4060. A lot of times I feel it is slower than my old 13 year 2 core computer. I did get rid of the swap file which helped a little. But at times I still see a little rotating circle when starting programs. I thought programs would pop up but they don't. So there has to be something I need to reset. So I am assuming all of you have overcome this rotating circle issue because I do not hear any complaints about it.
---
<Bill>
Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska
On 2023-11-10 19:09, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
So after 13 years I purchased a new computer. It comes with an i9-13950HX >> CPU, 32 GB DDR5 Memory, NVMe Drive, and RTX 4060. A lot of times I feel it >> is slower than my old 13 year 2 core computer. I did get rid of the swap >> file which helped a little. But at times I still see a little rotating
circle when starting programs. I thought programs would pop up but they
don't. So there has to be something I need to reset. So I am assuming all
of you have overcome this rotating circle issue because I do not hear any
complaints about it.
I don't know, but I would suggest you mention brand and model; perhaps someone knows that this brand puts some mandatory tool that slows the machine.
I don't know these days what Intel offers for desktop utilities,
but you need something a tiny bit better than CPU-Z to watch
activities.
So after 13 years I purchased a new computer. It comes with an
i9-13950HX CPU, 32 GB DDR5 Memory, NVMe Drive, and RTX 4060. A lot
of times I feel it is slower than my old 13 year 2 core computer. I
did get rid of the swap file which helped a little. But at times I
still see a little rotating circle when starting programs. I thought programs would pop up but they don't. So there has to be something I
need to reset. So I am assuming all of you have overcome this
rotating circle issue because I do not hear any complaints about it.
---
<Bill>
Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska
So after 13 years I purchased a new computer. It comes with an
i9-13950HX CPU, 32 GB DDR5 Memory, NVMe Drive, and RTX 4060. A lot
of times I feel it is slower than my old 13 year 2 core computer. I
did get rid of the swap file which helped a little. But at times I
still see a little rotating circle when starting programs. I thought programs would pop up but they don't. So there has to be something I
need to reset. So I am assuming all of you have overcome this
rotating circle issue because I do not hear any complaints about it.
---
<Bill>
Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
So after 13 years I purchased a new computer. It comes with an
i9-13950HX CPU, 32 GB DDR5 Memory, NVMe Drive, and RTX 4060. A lot
of times I feel it is slower than my old 13 year 2 core computer. I
did get rid of the swap file which helped a little. But at times I
still see a little rotating circle when starting programs. I thought
programs would pop up but they don't. So there has to be something I
need to reset. So I am assuming all of you have overcome this
rotating circle issue because I do not hear any complaints about it.
---
<Bill>
Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska
I am basically going to answer through myself. It is an MSI Raider
GE68HX 13VF computer I purchased at Costco. PC Mags review was okay
but for the 144Mhz IPS screen. The screen is fine for me and I
believe it is not the problem. It does have 5 different operating
settings including extreme performance. I have everything off but
the 2 smoothing items in sysdm.cpl. Checked ccleaner startup and
nothing looks out of place. The issue is not during the startup of
the computer but when I start programs.
Maybe I need to run the computer at the 5 different setting and see
how this affects performance. Right now I am on extreme. What
program(s) would you recommend and what should I be looking for?
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
So after 13 years I purchased a new computer. It comes with an
i9-13950HX CPU, 32 GB DDR5 Memory, NVMe Drive, and RTX 4060. A lot
of times I feel it is slower than my old 13 year 2 core computer. I
did get rid of the swap file which helped a little. But at times I
still see a little rotating circle when starting programs. I thought
programs would pop up but they don't. So there has to be something I
need to reset. So I am assuming all of you have overcome this
rotating circle issue because I do not hear any complaints about it.
---
<Bill>
Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska
System Review: https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/msi-raider-ge68hx-13vf
I paid $1,399.99.
<Bill>
The issue is not
during the startup of the computer but when I start programs.
Get yourself an SSD benchmark program, run it and compare itI've always used CrystalDiskMark for Windows https://crystaldiskmark.en.softonic.com/
to how fast your SSD actually is supposed to be. I used AS SSD
benchmark, apparently it is still available.
Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
So after 13 years I purchased a new computer. It comes with an
i9-13950HX CPU, 32 GB DDR5 Memory, NVMe Drive, and RTX 4060. A lot
of times I feel it is slower than my old 13 year 2 core computer. I
did get rid of the swap file which helped a little. But at times I
still see a little rotating circle when starting programs. I
thought programs would pop up but they don't. So there has to be
something I need to reset. So I am assuming all of you have
overcome this rotating circle issue because I do not hear any
complaints about it. ---
<Bill>
Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska
I am basically going to answer through myself. It is an MSI Raider
GE68HX 13VF computer I purchased at Costco. PC Mags review was okay
but for the 144Mhz IPS screen. The screen is fine for me and I
believe it is not the problem. It does have 5 different operating
settings including extreme performance. I have everything off but
the 2 smoothing items in sysdm.cpl. Checked ccleaner startup and
nothing looks out of place. The issue is not during the startup of
the computer but when I start programs.
Maybe I need to run the computer at the 5 different setting and see
how this affects performance. Right now I am on extreme. What
program(s) would you recommend and what should I be looking for?
Was any anti-malware installed (other than Windows Defender)?
Their manual sucks as it was written for boobs. No info on BIOS
settings.
https://download.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/nb/MS-15M1_MS-15M2_v1.1_English_GE.pdf
Are "extreme" and "performance" the only choices for presets in BIOS performance settings? You said there were 5 settings. What are they
called?
On 11/11/2023 1:45 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
So after 13 years I purchased a new computer. It comes with an
i9-13950HX CPU, 32 GB DDR5 Memory, NVMe Drive, and RTX 4060. A lot
of times I feel it is slower than my old 13 year 2 core computer. I
did get rid of the swap file which helped a little. But at times I
still see a little rotating circle when starting programs. I
thought programs would pop up but they don't. So there has to be
something I need to reset. So I am assuming all of you have
overcome this rotating circle issue because I do not hear any
complaints about it. ---
<Bill>
Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska
System Review: https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/msi-raider-ge68hx-13vf
I paid $1,399.99.
<Bill>
AC Adapter
(option 1)
1 x 330W, 19.5V # This might be for one of the more
expensive SKUs in the series Input: 100-240V~, 50/60Hz
Output: 19.5V , 16.9A
AC Adapter
(option 2)
1 x 280W, 20V
Input: 100-240V~, 50/60Hz
Output: 20V , 14A
Battery 4-cell # 99Wh. Puts my laptop to shame.
Which adapter did it come with ?
Some computers "behave differently" depending on the adapter.
(They have an extra pin on the power connector, for ID purposes.)
For a minute there, I thought the machine came with two adapters
(there are such machines), but, it only uses one of the above.
Some gaming laptops, when they come with two adapters,
with both adapters plugged in, if you play a game, not
only does it use all adapter power, it actually *drains the battery*.
The most powerful devices of this type, don't have sufficient
power for continuous gaming.
Since it is made by MSI, the BIOS will not be an Insyde BIOS with
a grand total of one setting. It is bound to have more power/state
settings as a result. It should have closer to a motherboard BIOS.
And it has a cooling system. It has an extended back porch, plus two
blowers
by the looks of it. You can still monitor the temperature though,
because
it might still decide to throttle.
This is mine, showing the monitoring application I use. Not all that impressive, as it's hit the power limit and the clock isn't getting
all that close to 5GHz. It's already "yesterdays news" :-) Sometimes
you can squeeze a little extra out of these, with an augmented
cooling system.
[Picture]
https://i.postimg.cc/pLsp6jgm/Install-Ryzen-Master-To-Watch-Params.gif
Load up the Intel utility (equivalent to that), and you can have a
look at its power sipping behavior (which is ruining your benches).
I just used the 7ZIP benchmark utility, to busy the cores. A lot of
times,
doing actual compression runs, it doesn't fully occupy all the cores.
And
I've increased the number of cores on 7ZIP compression runs, one core
at a time, and the hyperthreading behavior can only be described as
"funky".
It makes me want to turn Hyperthreading off. Jim Keller was
commenting the
other day, how "the CPU-Z benchmark isn't very good". My reply to
that would
be "OK, show the product wowing me doing ordinary stuff, and we'll
talk".
For a design which is symmetric (no P & E cores like yours), it has
way
too many peculiarities. You expect these things to eventually starve
for RAM bandwidth, which is why one of my benches was
purpose-assembled
to be core limited, and there should be hardly any RAM accesses while
it runs. If you compress a 20GB all-zeros file, the dictionaries for
each thread don't grow, and all the dictionaries stay in cache. If I
compress 20 GB of random numbers, I get the expected lethargic
compression
rate, and that is perfectly correct. It is then beating the piss out
of
RAM, and the cores are going to block waiting for RAM access to become available.
[Picture]
https://i.postimg.cc/L6hWjw6p/Zen3-Power-Numbers.gif
Paul
On 11/12/23 05:17 AM, this is what Joerg Walther wrote:
Get yourself an SSD benchmark program, run it and compare itI've always used CrystalDiskMark for Windows https://crystaldiskmark.en.softonic.com/
to how fast your SSD actually is supposed to be. I used AS SSD
benchmark, apparently it is still available.
or from the horse's mouth https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskmark/
thing I would like to do would be see at what speed and temperature the CPU is operating at under each of these setting. But I have not had time to
look for a program that might do this. Can you think of one? I am starting to be patient with the computer.
<Bill>
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
The issue is not
during the startup of the computer but when I start programs.
That sounds exactly like the issue I had about ten years back when the
SSD in my new PC went faulty after a couple of days and had to be
replaced. Get yourself an SSD benchmark program, run it and compare it
to how fast your SSD actually is supposed to be. I used AS SSD
benchmark, apparently it is still available.
So after 13 years I purchased a new computer. It comes with an i9-13950HX CPU, 32 GB DDR5 Memory, NVMe Drive, and RTX 4060. A lot of times I feel it is slower than my old 13 year 2 core computer. I did get rid of the swap file which helped a little. But at times I still see a little rotating circle when starting programs. I thought programs would pop up but they don't. So there has to be something I need to reset. So I am assuming all of you have overcome this rotating circle issue because I do not hear any complaints about it.
Why Windows 10 on a new computer (instead of Windows 11)?
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Why Windows 10 on a new computer (instead of Windows 11)?
That was my initial thought (but I decided not to voice it for no particular reason).
On 11/13/2023 7:32 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Why Windows 10 on a new computer (instead of Windows 11)?
That was my initial thought (but I decided not to voice it for no
particular reason).
Simple. Two OSes for the price of one. You can upgrade
any time from W10 to W11.
There is no particular rush at the moment.
You can lock the version, with this. It sets three or four
registry entries for you. "winver.exe" gives you some idea
what level you're at now.
https://www.grc.com/incontrol.htm
Paul
On 11/12/2023 1:06 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
One
thing I would like to do would be see at what speed and temperature
the CPU is operating at under each of these setting. But I have not
had time to look for a program that might do this. Can you think of
one? I am starting to be patient with the computer.
<Bill>
I posted a link to XTU.
# You will be using this for monitoring,
# not to make adjustments (which might not even be available).
# The supported processor list at the bottom of the web page,
# there is an invisible scroll bar and if you scroll down far
enough, # your CPU is in the supported list.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/17881/intel-extreme-tuning-utility-intel-xtu.html
# Pictures of XTU
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-XTU-Undervolting-Guide.272120.0.html
Paul
On 11/12/23 05:17 AM, this is what Joerg Walther wrote:
Get yourself an SSD benchmark program, run it and compare itI've always used CrystalDiskMark for Windows https://crystaldiskmark.en.softonic.com/
to how fast your SSD actually is supposed to be. I used AS SSD
benchmark, apparently it is still available.
or from the horse's mouth https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskmark/
Big Al wrote:Looks pretty dead on to me.
On 11/12/23 05:17 AM, this is what Joerg Walther wrote:
Get yourself an SSD benchmark program, run it and compare itI've always used CrystalDiskMark for Windows
to how fast your SSD actually is supposed to be. I used AS SSD
benchmark, apparently it is still available.
https://crystaldiskmark.en.softonic.com/
or from the horse's mouth
https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskmark/
Results:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 8.0.4 x64 (C) 2007-2021 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World: https://crystalmark.info/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes
[Read]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 4696.218 MB/s [ 4478.7 IOPS] < 1784.97 us>
RND 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 2869.758 MB/s [ 700624.5 IOPS] < 729.17 us>
[Write]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 3636.186 MB/s [ 3467.7 IOPS] < 2300.23 us>
RND 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 2755.450 MB/s [ 672717.3 IOPS] < 760.23 us>
Profile: Peak
Test: 1 GiB (x5) [C: 66% (71/107GiB)]
Mode: [Admin]
Time: Measure 5 sec / Interval 5 sec
Date: 2023/11/13 9:21:24
OS: Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 19045] (x64)
Micron Specs:
SeqRead: 4,500
SeqWrite: 3,600
So it appears the NVMe Micron 2400-MTF is working properly.
At least that has been confirmed.
Thanks for your help.
Paul wrote:
On 11/13/2023 7:32 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Why Windows 10 on a new computer (instead of Windows 11)?
That was my initial thought (but I decided not to voice it for no
particular reason).
Simple. Two OSes for the price of one. You can upgrade
any time from W10 to W11.
There is no particular rush at the moment.
You can lock the version, with this. It sets three or four
registry entries for you. "winver.exe" gives you some idea
what level you're at now.
https://www.grc.com/incontrol.htm
Paul
I also assumed when I am forced to upgrade to 11 I will get the pro version. I paid $200 for this and I will be damned if I am going to pay for 11 Pro.
<Bill>
On 11/13/2023 7:32 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Why Windows 10 on a new computer (instead of Windows 11)?
That was my initial thought (but I decided not to voice it for no particular reason).
Simple. Two OSes for the price of one. You can upgrade
any time from W10 to W11.
On 2023-11-13 15:02, Paul wrote:
On 11/13/2023 7:32 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Why Windows 10 on a new computer (instead of Windows 11)?
That was my initial thought (but I decided not to voice it for no particular reason).
Simple. Two OSes for the price of one. You can upgrade
any time from W10 to W11.
I would not buy a new computer with Windows 10.
Why?
Well, upgrading would put the effort on me. If there is any problem, it is me who has to fight and solve it. If it comes with W11, it means the machine has been tested with W11 and it will work.
If I see a computer sold with W10, I get suspicious. It may be old hardware, packaged and installed one or two years ago, sold now. If not packaged, designed time ago, they imaged the install and put it again and again.
Whether one likes W10 more than 11 is irrelevant.
On 11/14/2023 6:54 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-11-13 15:02, Paul wrote:
On 11/13/2023 7:32 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Why Windows 10 on a new computer (instead of Windows 11)?
That was my initial thought (but I decided not to voice it for no particular reason).
Simple. Two OSes for the price of one. You can upgrade
any time from W10 to W11.
I would not buy a new computer with Windows 10.
Why?
Well, upgrading would put the effort on me. If there is any problem, it is me who has to fight and solve it. If it comes with W11, it means the machine has been tested with W11 and it will work.
If I see a computer sold with W10, I get suspicious. It may be old hardware, packaged and installed one or two years ago, sold now. If not packaged, designed time ago, they imaged the install and put it again and again.
Whether one likes W10 more than 11 is irrelevant.
Some people buy equipment, based on finding it has W10.
That makes it a marketing consideration.
Same as when some of the companies ship "new" computers,
where the CPU SKU is three releases old. The parts are
just as worthwhile, but that may allow the retail price
of the box to be lower.
The computer will handle the upgrade from W10 to W11 for you.
It'll even attempt the upgrade, when the upgrade won't work,
then roll the machine back. It's not like you have to
raise a finger to get this to work. No making ISOs required.
On 11/12/2023 1:06 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
One
thing I would like to do would be see at what speed and temperature
the CPU is operating at under each of these setting. But I have not
had time to look for a program that might do this. Can you think of
one? I am starting to be patient with the computer.
<Bill>
I posted a link to XTU.
# You will be using this for monitoring,
# not to make adjustments (which might not even be available).
# The supported processor list at the bottom of the web page,
# there is an invisible scroll bar and if you scroll down far
enough, # your CPU is in the supported list.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/17881/intel-extreme-tuning-utility-intel-xtu.html
# Pictures of XTU
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-XTU-Undervolting-Guide.272120.0.html
Paul
Paul wrote:
On 11/12/2023 1:06 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
One
thing I would like to do would be see at what speed and temperature
the CPU is operating at under each of these setting. But I have not
had time to look for a program that might do this. Can you think of
one? I am starting to be patient with the computer.
<Bill>
I posted a link to XTU.
# You will be using this for monitoring,
# not to make adjustments (which might not even be available).
# The supported processor list at the bottom of the web page,
# there is an invisible scroll bar and if you scroll down far
enough, # your CPU is in the supported list.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/17881/intel-extreme-tuning-utility-intel-xtu.html
# Pictures of XTU
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-XTU-Undervolting-Guide.272120.0.html
Paul
So I ran the program Benchmark with the computer setting on Extreme Performance. So what are these telling me?
P-Core Maximum 4.41 GHz
E-Core Maximum 3.59 Ghz
Maximum Temp 92 C
Pretty neat program. I just need to know what it is telling me. The computer is setup so I can not adjust overclocking which make sense. I have read that this processor can be overclocked to 5.5 Mhz but that would be in desktops where you could have many fans and liquid cooling.
get-ciminstance win32_winsat
Some people buy equipment, based on finding it has W10.
The computer will handle the upgrade from W10 to W11 for you.
It'll even attempt the upgrade, when the upgrade won't work,
then roll the machine back. It's not like you have to
raise a finger to get this to work. No making ISOs required.
If the upgrade doesn't work, it is I who gets the flak.
On 11/14/2023 8:51 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Some people buy equipment, based on finding it has W10.
The computer will handle the upgrade from W10 to W11 for you.
It'll even attempt the upgrade, when the upgrade won't work,
then roll the machine back. It's not like you have to
raise a finger to get this to work. No making ISOs required.
If the upgrade doesn't work, it is I who gets the flak.
It depends on your service model, whether this program and your
relationship with the customer, will achieve a result.
https://www.grc.com/incontrol.htm
Has a sound effect, turn down volume during usage.
All it does, is set around four registry entries for you.
I used to set three of those, manually.
You can use that, to stop version changes while
you (or the customer), are away from the machine.
For security updates, control is more limited. A
customer, by clicking a button in the Windows Update
settings panel, can keep the updates out until
you arrive (once a month) and do them.
On 11/14/2023 1:58 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Paul wrote:
On 11/12/2023 1:06 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
One
thing I would like to do would be see at what speed and temperature
the CPU is operating at under each of these setting. But I have
not had time to look for a program that might do this. Can you
think of one? I am starting to be patient with the computer.
<Bill>
I posted a link to XTU.
# You will be using this for monitoring,
# not to make adjustments (which might not even be available).
# The supported processor list at the bottom of the web page,
# there is an invisible scroll bar and if you scroll down far
enough, # your CPU is in the supported list.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/17881/intel-extreme-tuning-utility-intel-xtu.html
# Pictures of XTU
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-XTU-Undervolting-Guide.272120.0.html
Paul
So I ran the program Benchmark with the computer setting on Extreme
Performance. So what are these telling me?
P-Core Maximum 4.41 GHz
E-Core Maximum 3.59 Ghz
Maximum Temp 92 C
Pretty neat program. I just need to know what it is telling me. The
computer is setup so I can not adjust overclocking which make sense.
I have read that this processor can be overclocked to 5.5 Mhz but
that would be in desktops where you could have many fans and liquid
cooling.
The version of the utility shown here is pretty basic.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/resources/overclocking-xtu-guide.html
In some of the views, there is a graph, but the graph is not labeled properly.
Your processor will turbo a different amount, depending on the number
of cores
engaged in turbo-ing. At one time, highest turbo was only achieved on
one core,
which was perfectly useless, since OS activity plus the user
activity, spilled
over onto more than one core, and the user never seemed to get the
Turbo they
expected.
This later changed, to turbo on 1-core or 2-cores, reaching the
"Turbo value on the tin".
For some reason, Intel does not like publishing the turbo table.
Anandtech
used to like publishing the turbo table. The difference in the
numbers here,
could be down to the settings on the power limiter.
https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2626/images/2023-02-13-image-j_1100.webp
Bill Spec
P-Core Maximum 4.41 GHz 5.5 GHz
E-Core Maximum 3.59 Ghz 4.0 GHz
Maximum Temp 92 C 99 C
It could be that your power limiter is set to way less than 157W.
I presume they would take it right up to Max Temp, if there
was power headroom to do it. Techspot notes that laptops don't
generally
set 157W, and it might be 55W or 75W kind of thing.
In the Techspot review
https://www.techspot.com/review/2626-intel-core-i9-13950hx/
https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2626/bench/30-p.webp
that is a Cinebench R23 multithread test (max cores), conducted at
specific power-limiter points. They would evaluate a run at 55W and
75W. Then, plot up the points. When yours runs 24 cores, there
would be a bench number, and that would be a bench collected at
whatever your power limiter claimed to be set to in XTU. Raising
the power setting, does not necessarily help, unless there is
cooling headroom, as the clock won't go to 5.5GHz unless the
cooling can manage <99C . Some laptops actually shoot past 99C
limit a bit, but that does not make them heroic (the thermal limit
is not a silicon limit, it is an organic package limit, the substrate
the die sits on has a 99C limit.
https://files03.tchspt.com/down/CinebenchR23.2.zip
Name: CinebenchR23.2.zip
Size: 261,956,799 bytes (249 MiB)
SHA256:
FFF6D34B8F696DE64A534FC9F0788EC1E9F1BDA880A88AED92DF8B96D1797C42
You could run a Cinebench, and while it is running with max cores,
see if it is getting anywhere near the number in the graph for the
same power level.
*******
But that is way too much work, for a start.
We could try the more simple-minded Windows evaluation of your
hardware.
The only purpose of running this, is to see if something is grossly mis-tuned.
For example, if Device Manager said your graphics was run by the
"Microsoft Basic Display Adapter", then the two graphics scores would
be low.
You have composite graphics and two GPUs, the Intel GPU drives the
display
wiring, the NVidia GPU dumps 3D pixmaps into system memory, the Intel
GPU
then displays them, when playing a game. This is Optimus/Bumblebee or similar,
driver concept.
https://www.minitool.com/news/windows-experience-score.html
get-ciminstance win32_winsat
CPUScore : 9.6
D3DScore : 9.9
DiskScore : 8.2 <=== you should get a better number than
mine, with an NVMe GraphicsScore : 8.5 <=== placeholder
graphics card, what I could find during shortage MemoryScore
: 9.6
TimeTaken : MostRecentAssessment
WinSATAssessmentState : 1
WinSPRLevel : 8.2
PSComputerName :
If I compare the current system to my ten year old system (6C 12T),
it looks like this
CPUScore : 9.6 9.1 16C32T versus 6C12T
D3DScore : 9.9 9.9
DiskScore : 8.2 5.9 SATASSD versus SATAHDD
GraphicsScore : 8.5 9.3 1050Ti versus 1080
MemoryScore : 9.6 9.1 DDR4 versus DDR3
TimeTaken : MRA
WinSATAssessmentState : 1
WinSPRLevel : 8.2 5.9 <=== "pick weakest thing..." PSComputerName :
I'm resorting to that, to see if I can get you to elaborate on
what is slow.
slow program launch (start loading, takes a long
time, like it is using sandbox) system fails to respond to launch
(bug in the past, loader didn't start right away) sluggish graphics
but program fast (wrong graphics driver) throttled disk
(overheated NVMe, reduced rates) CPU clock stays low
(power limiter set too low, heatsink has fallen off)
I was hoping the XTU would have a better display of core clock rates,
so you could see the trends better.
Paul
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 297 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 07:16:01 |
| Calls: | 6,666 |
| Files: | 12,213 |
| Messages: | 5,336,106 |
