<<https://www.kcsoftwares.com/
Termination notice
KC Softwares activities are to be terminated by end of October 2023.
All products are to be considered as End-Of-Life (EOL) on October 31st 2023.
Sales are stopped.
for /F %i in ('dir /b *.exe') do certutil -hashfile %i SHA256 >> hash.txt type hash.txt
On 10/22/2023 11:12 PM, Wally J wrote:
It's almost worthless to solve a problem and only help one person doing it.
I'll tell the surgeons I know about the above. But don't you think they
might want to continue diagnosing and performing life-saving procedures
on individuals?
It's almost worthless to solve a problem and only help one person doing it.
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo/Dumo site
to give him the URL to check and install his drivers when I ran into this notice that they're going to stop existing (apparently) in a few days...
<https://www.kcsoftwares.com/
Termination notice
KC Softwares activities are to be terminated by end of October 2023.
All products are to be considered as End-Of-Life (EOL) on October 31st 2023.
Sales are stopped.
SUMo
DUMo
IDPhotoStudio
VideoInspector
KCleaner
HDDExpert
RAMExpert
BATExpert
PortExpert
dot11Expert
MassCert
Startup Sentinel
Zer0
AudioGrail
PhotoToFilm
AVIToolbox
ApHeMo
K-ML
KFK
Ignition
Vampix
K-Mail (Active-X)
K-FTP (Active-X)
etc.
VanguardLH wrote:
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo/Dumo site
to give him the URL to check and install his drivers when I ran into this >>> notice that they're going to stop existing (apparently) in a few days... >>> <https://www.kcsoftwares.com/
Termination notice
KC Softwares activities are to be terminated by end of October 2023. >>> All products are to be considered as End-Of-Life (EOL) on October 31st 2023.
Sales are stopped.
Unclear that means their web site and downloads will cease to exist.
SUMo has agreements with software provide to keep him
apprised of versions updates. This will vanish.
Sumo will be worthless after that.
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo/Dumo site
to give him the URL to check and install his drivers when I ran into this
notice that they're going to stop existing (apparently) in a few days...
<https://www.kcsoftwares.com/
Termination notice
KC Softwares activities are to be terminated by end of October 2023.
All products are to be considered as End-Of-Life (EOL) on October 31st 2023.
Sales are stopped.
SUMo
DUMo
IDPhotoStudio
VideoInspector
KCleaner
HDDExpert
RAMExpert
BATExpert
PortExpert
dot11Expert
MassCert
Startup Sentinel
Zer0
AudioGrail
PhotoToFilm
AVIToolbox
ApHeMo
K-ML
KFK
Ignition
Vampix
K-Mail (Active-X)
K-FTP (Active-X)
etc.
Unclear that means their web site and downloads will cease to exist.
I've downloaded lots of unsupported software, but the site remained and
the downloads were still available, or the software was available
elsewhere (e.g., download sites). Not sure "activities are to be
terminated" means they'll yank their web site, but there would still be
the costs of web hosting and bandwidth (at ovh.com), and they obviously
would not be generating new revenue to offset those costs.
They give their company address as "31190 AUTERIVE FRANCE". I wanted to
see if street view in Google Maps would show if it was a residence or commercial building; however, without a street name, the street view
can't show the location. With the GPDR fucking up domain registrant
info, a WhoIS on kcsoftwares.com is severely redacted. Anyone can
visit, but God forbid anyone knows to who they connect.
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote
<<https://www.kcsoftwares.com/
Termination notice
KC Softwares activities are to be terminated by end of October 2023.
All products are to be considered as End-Of-Life (EOL) on October 31st 2023.
Sales are stopped.
For the archives... so others benefit not only now, but well into the future (your time and effort is only worth it if you help many others using that leverage).
for /F %i in ('dir /b *.exe') do certutil -hashfile %i SHA256 >> hash.txt
type hash.txt
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/sumo_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of sumo_lite.exe: 614158ae45025e2ac13a043c78d3a8147543d6efc6b51368182051100687b203
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/dumo_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of dumo_lite.exe: a05173a81745375cea6d060baace7ee80a88143b5ea2ea61976301a0fedc3e02
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/kcleaner_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of kcleaner_lite.exe: 8dd407c78d80732d02fb6ddcff76349eef2405b6ee740104bca9c385ad6d456e
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/videoinspector_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of videoinspector_lite.exe: 68990a699298fe6357a7223a4366e083a382334531e1604ffb27c808f4589c7a
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/portexpert_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of portexpert_lite.exe: e24402a3a9c3dc47b5c736dae5d5849fa6fcf436717f7896e54537b1b47de80a
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/hdde_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of hdde_lite.exe: fb660d04bf75760c3a2d9680df3e17f842558eb842dd05e9bda0e4e0988d5464
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/ramexpert_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of ramexpert_lite.exe: 4938a057fefe6a7e57edad3bf130112839ffc5d33828d3a7336fd78dafde006c
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/IDPS_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of IDPS_lite.exe: 0ea0c6071516a8e3ac518ecec17a5d3abe7380416cdff235ea12f5515596981d
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/batexpert_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of batexpert_lite.exe: f4d3e165ad35bf529182b68d96a1f398075a45db944bd652b69a2669f43f7929
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/phototofilm_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of phototofilm_lite.exe: f623b0018a86cd6c692d832108493bc9969d5771c751f582d22005434da9f6ae
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/kml.exe>
SHA256 hash of kml.exe: a3d807a6d81fbd2164a907a1ff63170fd5f881b247c1e43b9abacc1650ac84b6
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/dot11expert.exe>
SHA256 hash of dot11expert.exe: 445f4c2ae64e2e976f10c5a0b2ea37f213a46d126bf0798979c6a0e9327a3015
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/sus_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of sus_lite.exe: 538d2462dfd6f878563e51975170133c98650fed51b72fb798d77941ce4aa6e4
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/aphemo.exe>
SHA256 hash of aphemo.exe: 25995579c9c28727d7c86669696b1cd560174e2cde767a4c7d4b3b3d1c394cb0
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/ignition_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of ignition_lite.exe: 2670106377baf8225fddea579e05e69ed4cc00b8ddaab2ae2d2e18d9bd6becd8
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/zero_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of zero_lite.exe: 8798deac4615c53ebe14edd90bab54a8ae8611c514c3d0e3e36af7375ae348b4
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/vampix_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of vampix_lite.exe: abee7d8ecb8e7a03b39adc7261cc001e5f0272598f5fa3a572732f3ac484a9ba
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/avitoolbox_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of avitoolbox_lite.exe: b097898061b6741bdf82bc3accd0b1f1e394260568efb96ca8254e908fd948b2
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/audiograil_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of audiograil_lite.exe: a01de39aa3ea170c333ba80cc4073b6ce89f58275bebc18b9d8e8c75cdbf022d
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/masscert_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of masscert_lite.exe: 76954b87032c5f18955df4dae51f8f0121a21b7c2a4ed5c8520ed8e5fbd80dd7
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/kfk_lite.exe>
SHA256 hash of kfk_lite.exe: 60d49ca990d7c21e839fc4194cc1cad4517c2c769b33a7ad5baa1cbc8420c43d
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/kmail.exe>
SHA256 hash of kmail.exe: 207e77a60e0c1c2ead5cbf388b792b89dc18f4fbf15262c70ab6bb5a6c0b7a65
<https://kcsoftwares.com/files/kftp.exe>
SHA256 hash of kftp.exe: 0030e8a4273d124f0db66af10f8dd0959f55807640d103bc936c33858b0e6b43
The reason for documenting the hash is to note whether the files change over time.
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo
As for SUMo, and its ilk, I've never found nagware to be of much value.
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo/Dumo site to give
him the URL to check and install his drivers when I ran into this notice
that they're going to stop existing (apparently) in a few days... <https://www.kcsoftwares.com/
On 10/23/23 08:41 PM, this is what T wrote:
On 10/22/23 22:12, Wally J wrote:In my quick 2 second look, if I read Sumo right, it's much like PatchmyPC. https://patchmypc.com/home-updater
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo
Thank you for the heads up!!!!
I use Sumo a lot on customer's PCI compliant machines.
You have a favorite replacement?
On 10/22/23 22:12, Wally J wrote:
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo
Thank you for the heads up!!!!
I use Sumo a lot on customer's PCI compliant machines.
You have a favorite replacement?
The reason for documenting the hash is to note whether the files change over time.
If their "termination" means their site gets killed, all these URLs
archived into Usenet will become unusable.
As for SUMo, and its ilk, I've never found nagware to be of much value.
Me neither.
I only like upgrading when it is "new and improved". I do
not care for "new and a whole new ton of bugs with
no improvements".
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote
The reason for documenting the hash is to note whether the files change over time.
If their "termination" means their site gets killed, all these URLs
archived into Usenet will become unusable.
Hi Vanguard,
Um... er... please spend a moment to give me some credit for not being
stupid as that's _exactly_ why I provided the hash in the first place.
If the site disappears, but if the software shows up somewhere else ten
years from now (and it will) how do you know if it's the _same_ software?
If you trust my hash - then you know the answer but w/o it, you don't know.
And the URL also has value - because it makes it easy for anyone else to click on it to obtain the files instantly - which is why I provided it.
The URL is to allow anyone on this newsgroup to get the software easily (please note that I almost _always_ go to the trouble to provide the URL).
Please give me credit for not being stupid like most people seem to be
& for thinking ahead on why I provided not only the URL, but also the hash.
I use Sumo a lot on customer's PCI compliant machines.In my quick 2 second look, if I read Sumo right, it's much like PatchmyPC. >> https://patchmypc.com/home-updater
You have a favorite replacement?
Hi Al,
That one sound better than any of the other I found.
on:
https://alternativeto.net/software/sumo/?p=2
It sounds like I can do automatically or manual updates.
And it ranks the updates (criticals, etc.) which is
what I need.
It's why I write extensive tutorials (so many, that I can't count them).
If I'm going to spend my valuable time documenting a solution, it's not
worth my effort to help only one person. That's why I use archived ngs.
Unfortunately, the Windows archives suck, even as I've tried using them.
<http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10>
<http://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/>
So I strive to add newsgroups which are autoarchived & web searchable:
<http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
Even though nobody actually uses that group - the archive is what matters. Anyone can search that archive now or ten or twenty years from now.
That's leverage if they find our tutorials useful two decades from now.
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote
I use Sumo a lot on customer's PCI compliant machines.In my quick 2 second look, if I read Sumo right, it's much like PatchmyPC. >>> https://patchmypc.com/home-updater
You have a favorite replacement?
Hi Al,
That one sound better than any of the other I found.
on:
https://alternativeto.net/software/sumo/?p=2
It sounds like I can do automatically or manual updates.
And it ranks the updates (criticals, etc.) which is
what I need.
Wow. I love Usenet!
Patch My PC HAS to connect to the internet to check for updates
to itself and check all your found installed software
for new versions.
the way you are doing it is a waste of time.
Me, for instance, am reading this on alt.comp.os.windows-10, and the
oldest article I can read today is dated 2020-09-07. I do not search on
the sites you mentioned, I search here.
If you want to post useful tutorials, create or find a website to host
them, and post them there, properly edited and indexed.
c. I then ensure that energy is archived in the permanent archives These permanent archives are available to _everyone_ on the planet.
Patch My PC HAS to connect to the internet to check for updates to
itself and check all your found installed software for new versions.
Do the "tips" I occasionally write also get archived?
I was under the impression that this newsgroup was
not archived anywhere.
On 10/23/23 08:41 PM, this is what T wrote:
On 10/22/23 22:12, Wally J wrote:In my quick 2 second look, if I read Sumo right, it's much like PatchmyPC. https://patchmypc.com/home-updater
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo
Thank you for the heads up!!!!
I use Sumo a lot on customer's PCI compliant machines.
You have a favorite replacement?
On 10/23/23 19:44, Big Al wrote:
On 10/23/23 08:41 PM, this is what T wrote:
On 10/22/23 22:12, Wally J wrote:In my quick 2 second look, if I read Sumo right, it's much like PatchmyPC. >> https://patchmypc.com/home-updater
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo
Thank you for the heads up!!!!
I use Sumo a lot on customer's PCI compliant machines.
You have a favorite replacement?
Patchmy PC evaluation:
1) not a thorough as SUMo. Misses driver that are out of date (AMS)
2) worky interface
3) does not differentiate critical for just out of date
Basically, sort of good, but I will continue looking for better.
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 10/23/23 19:44, Big Al wrote:
On 10/23/23 08:41 PM, this is what T wrote:
On 10/22/23 22:12, Wally J wrote:In my quick 2 second look, if I read Sumo right, it's much like PatchmyPC. >>> https://patchmypc.com/home-updater
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo
Thank you for the heads up!!!!
I use Sumo a lot on customer's PCI compliant machines.
You have a favorite replacement?
Patchmy PC evaluation:
1) not a thorough as SUMo. Misses driver that are out of date (AMS)
2) worky interface
3) does not differentiate critical for just out of date
Basically, sort of good, but I will continue looking for better.
Hopefully that is a [portable] tool that just you uses to check for
updates, and you don't leave it on the customers computer for them to
fuck up on deciding if and what to update.
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 10/23/23 19:44, Big Al wrote:
On 10/23/23 08:41 PM, this is what T wrote:
On 10/22/23 22:12, Wally J wrote:In my quick 2 second look, if I read Sumo right, it's much like PatchmyPC. >>> https://patchmypc.com/home-updater
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo
Thank you for the heads up!!!!
I use Sumo a lot on customer's PCI compliant machines.
You have a favorite replacement?
Patchmy PC evaluation:
1) not a thorough as SUMo. Misses driver that are out of date (AMS)
2) worky interface
3) does not differentiate critical for just out of date
Basically, sort of good, but I will continue looking for better.
Hopefully that is a [portable] tool that just you uses to check for
updates, and you don't leave it on the customers computer for them to
fuck up on deciding if and what to update.
Hello,EOL https://kcsoftwares.com/?buy
After about 20 years of a fantastic adventure, and due to the general context, we have taken the decision to stop. Several good alternatives are on the market... but we hope you enjoyed our products up to now.
Products will reach EOL, which means that they will stop to work quickly after this date, depending on the progressive decommissioning of the server architecture. As indicated on our "buy" page, the product (and activation licence) "lifetime" ends at
While SUMo was an "aged" product, based on technology from 2 decades ago, I'm confident that the developper's community will soon come with a better, more modern, future-proof alternative.
Of course I could quote one of the many good updaters on the market : UCheck, VulnDetect, PatchMyPC, WingetUI, UpdateHub, Chocolatey, Scoop and certainly more.
Some other actors of this market (such as UCheck CEO) are already monitoring this : https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/sumo-keep-your-software-up-to-date.314623/page-197#post-3162762
I hope you enjoyed SUMo and that it has been a useful software for you up to now.
SUMo wrote me this:
Hello,
After about 20 years of a fantastic adventure, and due to the general context,
we have taken the decision to stop. Several good alternatives are on the market...
but we hope you enjoyed our products up to now.
Products will reach EOL, which means that they will stop to work quickly
after this date, depending on the progressive decommissioning of the server >> architecture. As indicated on our "buy" page, the product (and activation licence)
"lifetime" ends at EOL https://kcsoftwares.com/?buy
While SUMo was an "aged" product, based on technology from 2 decades ago,
I'm confident that the developper's community will soon come with a better, >> more modern, future-proof alternative.
Of course I could quote one of the many good updaters on the market
UCheck, VulnDetect, PatchMyPC, WingetUI, UpdateHub, Chocolatey, Scoop
and certainly more.
Some other actors of this market (such as UCheck CEO) are already
monitoring this :
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/sumo-keep-your-software-up-to-date.314623/page-197#post-3162762
I hope you enjoyed SUMo and that it has been a useful software for you up to now.
cd C:\software\updaters\.
mkdir {chocolatey,patchmypc,scoop,ucheck,updatehub,vulndetect,wingetui}
iwr -useb get.scoop.sh | iexRunning the installer as administrator is disabled by default,
Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned -Scope CurrentUserInitializing...
scoop uninstall scoopWARN This will uninstall Scoop and all the programs that have been installed with Scoop!
On 10/24/23 17:19, Wally J wrote:
c. I then ensure that energy is archived in the permanent archives
These permanent archives are available to _everyone_ on the planet.
Hi Wally,
Do the "tips" I occasionally write also get archived?
I was under the impression that this newsgroup was
not archived anywhere.
I am researching UCheck and VulnDetect.
Do the "tips" I occasionally write also get archived?
I was under the impression that this newsgroup was
not archived anywhere.
Well, they are kept somewhere, sometimes. No warranties. Only as long as someone wants to keep paying the maintenance. Then, seeking for
information about something is very hard, as those archives keep
everything, including the trolling and spamming, and all the chatting.
Thinking that you can write some document and leave it here for the
future is simply ridiculous. It doesn't work.
Now somekind of blog or documentation site, properly indexed, would be nice.
UCheck has a bad loyout. It is not the table layout the
SUMo has. And it seems to only catch "community"
software. No "critical" detection. It is kind
of a joke.
VulnDetect has a weird local and web interface. But
it works. It does catch criticals. It also demands
to be run automatically. You can set when. Also
it has a mechanism to add tested software to the list.
Neither one matches SUMo in capability.
On 10/23/23 17:59, VanguardLH wrote:
As for SUMo, and its ilk, I've never found nagware to be of much value.
Me neither.
I only like upgrading when it is "new and improved". I do
not care for "new and a whole new ton of bugs with
no improvements".
I only like upgrading when it is "new and improved". I do
not care for "new and a whole new ton of bugs with
no improvements".
Thunderbird 115 coems to mind. Swear word have
not been created ...
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote
I only like upgrading when it is "new and improved". I do
not care for "new and a whole new ton of bugs with
no improvements".
Thunderbird 115 coems to mind. Swear word have
not been created ...
From another group...
There is also the
QuickInstaller
https://www.quickinstaller.net/
to check for program updates
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote
Do the "tips" I occasionally write also get archived?
I was under the impression that this newsgroup was not archived
anywhere.
Well, they are kept somewhere, sometimes. No warranties. Only as long
as someone wants to keep paying the maintenance. Then, seeking for
information about something is very hard, as those archives keep
everything, including the trolling and spamming, and all the chatting.
Thinking that you can write some document and leave it here for the
future is simply ridiculous. It doesn't work.
Now somekind of blog or documentation site, properly indexed, would be
nice.
Carlos has written _zero_ tutorials and _zero_ tips like those from "T".
In fact, Carlos will _never_ be able to write anything worth archiving.
So be it.
This message is simply to state that Carlos is dead wrong about
archival.
Not only is Carlos wrong, but it's highly likely Carlos has never heard
of the Usenet archives we spoke about - so you can't trust his
assessments.
The fact is that it's trivial to figure out which newsgroups are automatically archived to a web-searchable format that everyone can
access.
In general, it's all the operating system newsgroups _except_ the
Windows newsgroups we most often use (but it does include _other_
Windows newsgroups such as the alt.comp.microsoft.windows newsgroup).
Hence, for those like "T" and I who add value which is useful to others
in the future, it behooves us to add alt.comp.microsoft.windows to the
list.
The point which people like Carlos and Frank Slootweg will never be able
to understand is that it's not added for our amusement or to troll - as that's how _they_ think - but not a normal adult who is attempting to
add value.
It's added so that it's archived in a place that is as permanent as any.
It's added so that it's archived in a place that requires no
login/passwd. It's added so that it's archived in a place that only
needs a web browser. etc.
Such concepts are far too deep for people like Frank Slootweg or Carlos
to ever comprehend - but the hope is that there are 1 out of 100 people
on this newsgroup who are intelligent enough to understand archival
concepts.
On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 19:37:55 -0400, Wally J wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote
Such concepts are far too deep for people like Frank Slootweg or Carlos
to ever comprehend - but the hope is that there are 1 out of 100 people
on this newsgroup who are intelligent enough to understand archival
concepts.
This is "Arlen", right?
On 2023-10-28 17:42, mechanic wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 19:37:55 -0400, Wally J wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote
...
Such concepts are far too deep for people like Frank Slootweg or Carlos
to ever comprehend - but the hope is that there are 1 out of 100 people
on this newsgroup who are intelligent enough to understand archival
concepts.
This is "Arlen", right?
Yes. Who else could say such things? :-D
There is also the
QuickInstaller
https://www.quickinstaller.net/
to check for program updates
I looked at it. No table for easy viewing.
And no criticals. It also only seemed to check
public software.
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo/Dumo site
to give him the URL to check and install his drivers when I ran into this notice that they're going to stop existing (apparently) in a few days...
<https://www.kcsoftwares.com/
Termination notice
KC Softwares activities are to be terminated by end of October 2023.
All products are to be considered as End-Of-Life (EOL) on October 31st 2023.
Sales are stopped.
On 23/10/2023 06:12, Wally J wrote:
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo/Dumo site
to give him the URL to check and install his drivers when I ran into this
notice that they're going to stop existing (apparently) in a few days...
   <https://www.kcsoftwares.com/
   Termination notice
   KC Softwares activities are to be terminated by end of October 2023. >>    All products are to be considered as End-Of-Life (EOL) on October
31st 2023.
   Sales are stopped.
Yep. I posted this in alt.comp.freeware on 2023.09.09
I'm curious how many you have installed on your Windows desktop PC.
Yep. I posted this in alt.comp.freeware on 2023.09.09
I will say that it's hard to organize "suites" such as these are.
Other "suite" examples, of course, are the office tools, majorgeeks and windowsclub downloads, and the classic suites such as nirsoft, sysinternals and winaero tools (where even I have difficulty pigeon holing them into appropriate functional categories).
There is also the
QuickInstaller
https://www.quickinstaller.net/
to check for program updates
Or even Major Geeks Software Updater for Windows 7-11
- http://www.majorgeeks.com/MajorGeeks_Software_Updater_d8044.html
Yes. Who else could say such things? :-D
And I even didn't post in this thread, but still he felt the need to 'praise' me. It boggles the mind.
On 10/29/23 03:58, wasbit wrote:
On 23/10/2023 06:12, Wally J wrote:
I was trying to help someone when I looked up the Sumo/Dumo site
to give him the URL to check and install his drivers when I ran into
this
notice that they're going to stop existing (apparently) in a few days... >>> Â Â Â <https://www.kcsoftwares.com/
   Termination notice
   KC Softwares activities are to be terminated by end of October 2023. >>>    All products are to be considered as End-Of-Life (EOL) on October >>> 31st 2023.
   Sales are stopped.
Yep. I posted this in alt.comp.freeware on 2023.09.09
Do you have a favorite replacement for SUMo?
wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote
Yep. I posted this in alt.comp.freeware on 2023.09.09
Hi wasbit,
Thanks for pointing that out as others may not know about a.c.f on here.
<http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware>
I found your thread where I'd recommend adding the "SUMO or DUMO" keywords
to the title because a search for either in the title or body fails unless you know to either use the name of the program or no spaces in the apps.
*KCSoftwares - Termination notice*
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware/c/qvoHPUNFC50/>
Unfortunately, the words " SUMO " or " DUMO " don't even exist in that
thread (with spaces delineating the word) so it would be hard to find them unless you knew they were surrounded by ";" as in ";SUMO;" & ";DUMO;"
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware/c/qvoHPUNFC50/m/--mmTcf4AwAJ>
Since you're a freeware expert, you probably associate sumo & dumo with kcsoftwares, but others might not so it needed sumo or dumo in the subject.
In my archives, for example, they're not listed under kcsoftwares but as
c:\archives\cleaners\updaters\drivers\dumo
c:\archivers\cleaners\updaters\software\sumo
(Note: I don't use plurals but I do here for readability).
I will say that it's hard to organize "suites" such as these are.
Other "suite" examples, of course, are the office tools, majorgeeks and windowsclub downloads, and the classic suites such as nirsoft, sysinternals and winaero tools (where even I have difficulty pigeon holing them into appropriate functional categories).
Normally, for suites, if I find the entire suite useful (e.g., nirsoft),
then I actually save them twice. Once under "suites" and the other I
disperse them into where they belong, which itself can have duplicates.
c:\archivers\hardware\bsod\WhatIsHang for example
When you do that, you just copy your WinXP start menu folder to
Window7 and then 8 and then Vista and then 10, etc., to access apps.
<https://i.postimg.cc/X7f8sBbF/whatishang01.jpg> WinXP menu on Win10
In summary, we both worked together where you informed one community (freeware folks) while I informed the Windows and hardware folks too.
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