• Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September

    From Pothos@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Oct 21 22:08:55 2023
    On 10/22/23 01:32, Paul wrote:
    The following, may make it look like "E-S is down".

    It is not. It is working.

    However, at the moment, I see this.

    The news server has only an IPV6 address (and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).

    PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org

    Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Address: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2

    Whereas the web server still has the normal IPV4/IPV6 assignment look to it.

    PS C:\Users > nslookup www.eternal-september.org

    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
    135.181.20.170
    Aliases: www.eternal-september.org

    It's not clear whether both will transition to the same setup, or not.

    *******

    Do not panic and try and "rewire" E-S in any way.
    You can make an awful mess, if you "try to fix it the obvious way".

    Editing the HOSTS file is probably safer (add an IPV4 entry if you're IPV4 only),
    just don't mod Thunderbird server settings for example.

    Let's give Ray a chance to respond in eternal-september.support .

    It can take a day to a day and a half, for a DNS change to propagate
    world wide, if this setup changes again.

    Paul
    This works...

    Server Name: reader80.eternal-september.org
    Port: 80

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 22 04:32:38 2023
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-8, alt.comp.os.windows-11

    The following, may make it look like "E-S is down".

    It is not. It is working.

    However, at the moment, I see this.

    The news server has only an IPV6 address (and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).

    PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org

    Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Address: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2

    Whereas the web server still has the normal IPV4/IPV6 assignment look to it.

    PS C:\Users > nslookup www.eternal-september.org

    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
    135.181.20.170
    Aliases: www.eternal-september.org

    It's not clear whether both will transition to the same setup, or not.

    *******

    Do not panic and try and "rewire" E-S in any way.
    You can make an awful mess, if you "try to fix it the obvious way".

    Editing the HOSTS file is probably safer (add an IPV4 entry if you're IPV4 only),
    just don't mod Thunderbird server settings for example.

    Let's give Ray a chance to respond in eternal-september.support .

    It can take a day to a day and a half, for a DNS change to propagate
    world wide, if this setup changes again.

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to ...winston on Sun Oct 22 01:59:01 2023
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-8, alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 10/22/2023 1:49 AM, ...winston wrote:

    p.s. Clock or Timeserver problem at your end or Eternal Sept problem?

    The message time stamp of my reply is accurate for my time zone
     ...roughly just shy of 3 hrs before your initial post

    The clock is wrong because I switched machines in an attempt
    to recover function.

    *******

    Strangely, the situation seems resolved, and I didn't reboot anything.
    This is collected on the same machine, as the original report.

    PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org

    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
    135.181.20.170

    PS C:\Users> nslookup www.eternal-september.org

    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
    135.181.20.170
    Aliases: www.eternal-september.org

    Paul

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  • From ...winston@21:1/5 to Paul on Sun Oct 22 01:43:12 2023
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-8, alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Paul wrote:
    The following, may make it look like "E-S is down".

    It is not. It is working.

    However, at the moment, I see this.

    The news server has only an IPV6 address (and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).

    PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org

    Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Address: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2

    Whereas the web server still has the normal IPV4/IPV6 assignment look to it.

    PS C:\Users > nslookup www.eternal-september.org

    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
    135.181.20.170
    Aliases: www.eternal-september.org

    It's not clear whether both will transition to the same setup, or not.

    *******

    Do not panic and try and "rewire" E-S in any way.
    You can make an awful mess, if you "try to fix it the obvious way".

    Editing the HOSTS file is probably safer (add an IPV4 entry if you're IPV4 only),
    just don't mod Thunderbird server settings for example.

    Let's give Ray a chance to respond in eternal-september.support .

    It can take a day to a day and a half, for a DNS change to propagate
    world wide, if this setup changes again.

    Paul


    PS
    nslookup news.eternal-september.org
    Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
    135.181.20.170

    nslookup www.eternal-september.org
    Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
    135.181.20.170
    Aliases: www.eternal-september.org


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  • From ...winston@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 22 01:49:36 2023
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-8, alt.comp.os.windows-11

    p.s. Clock or Timeserver problem at your end or Eternal Sept problem?

    The message time stamp of my reply is accurate for my time zone
    ...roughly just shy of 3 hrs before your initial post


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  • From ....winston@21:1/5 to Paul on Sun Oct 22 03:02:49 2023
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-8, alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 10/22/2023 1:59 AM, Paul wrote:
    On 10/22/2023 1:49 AM, ...winston wrote:

    p.s. Clock or Timeserver problem at your end or Eternal Sept problem?

    The message time stamp of my reply is accurate for my time zone
     ...roughly just shy of 3 hrs before your initial post

    The clock is wrong because I switched machines in an attempt
    to recover function.

    Ah, that explains the time stamp....noticed as soon as my post
    appeared....were both in -400 zone


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  • From JJ@21:1/5 to Paul on Sun Oct 22 18:37:00 2023
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-8, alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 04:32:38 -0400, Paul wrote:
    The following, may make it look like "E-S is down".

    It is not. It is working.

    However, at the moment, I see this.

    The news server has only an IPV6 address (and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).

    PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org

    Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Address: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2

    Whereas the web server still has the normal IPV4/IPV6 assignment look to it.

    PS C:\Users > nslookup www.eternal-september.org

    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
    135.181.20.170
    Aliases: www.eternal-september.org

    It's not clear whether both will transition to the same setup, or not.

    *******

    Do not panic and try and "rewire" E-S in any way.
    You can make an awful mess, if you "try to fix it the obvious way".

    Editing the HOSTS file is probably safer (add an IPV4 entry if you're IPV4 only),
    just don't mod Thunderbird server settings for example.

    Let's give Ray a chance to respond in eternal-september.support .

    It can take a day to a day and a half, for a DNS change to propagate
    world wide, if this setup changes again.

    Paul

    No wonder the server response time has become very fast.

    It usually took about half a minute to connect. Now it's snappy.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 3 13:28:34 2023
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-8

    Am 22.10.2023 schrieb Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>:

    (and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).

    Teredo still exists, although connectivity is very bad and some Teredo
    servers don't exist anymore.

    If your ISP doesn't give you IPv6, you can use a SIT tunnel from
    Hurricane Electric.

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