A while back a variety of posts covered the deprecation of the free
version of Macrium Reflect with version 8.0.7279 as the last released version.
A few days ago(Oct 12, iirc) a security update for the free version was released 8.0.7690
To obtain this update for the last free version, the update options are:
1. Update via the Macrium Reflect 'free' 8.0.7690 program
2. Download the free installer stub(small 5526 KB file)
<https://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v8/ReflectDLHF.exe>
3. Download 8.0.7690 from a third party hosting site.
Note:
- Item (2) is the link to download the free version installer
- The terminology in the file name is(D-irect L-ink, H-ome, F-ree)
- The free installer when run will download V.8.0.7690
- The free stub installer version is 8.1.7675
- The free stub installer version only applies to exe file of the stub installer, not the free version(8.0.7690) that will download when the
stub installer is run
- ****Do not change the name**** of the stub installer. The name is
necessary to have the option to download the free version(8.0.7690)
- Do remember when updating the free version to a later version number
to recreate new boot Macrium Reflect media
A while back a variety of posts covered the deprecation of the free
version of Macrium Reflect with version 8.0.7279 as the last released version.
A few days ago(Oct 12, iirc) a security update for the free version was released 8.0.7690
Correction:
Item (1) should read.
1. Update via the Macrium Reflect 'free' 8.0.7279 program
A while back a variety of posts covered the deprecation of the free
version of Macrium Reflect with version 8.0.7279 as the last released version.
A few days ago(Oct 12, iirc) a security update for the free version was released 8.0.7690
To obtain this update for the last free version, the update options are:
1. Update via the Macrium Reflect 'free' 8.0.7690 program
2. Download the free installer stub(small 5526 KB file)
<https://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v8/ReflectDLHF.exe>
3. Download 8.0.7690 from a third party hosting site.
Note:
- Item (2) is the link to download the free version installer
- The terminology in the file name is(D-irect L-ink, H-ome, F-ree)
- The free installer when run will download V.8.0.7690
- The free stub installer version is 8.1.7675
- The free stub installer version only applies to exe file of the stub installer, not the free version(8.0.7690) that will download when the
stub installer is run
- ****Do not change the name**** of the stub installer. The name is
necessary to have the option to download the free version(8.0.7690)
- Do remember when updating the free version to a later version number
to recreate new boot Macrium Reflect media
mkdir c:\software\database\backup\macriumName: ReflectDLHF.exe
copy "Macrium Reflect.lnk" c:\menu\database\backup\.Target=C:\app\database\backup\macrium\Reflect\ReflectBin.exe Startin=C:\app\database\backup\macrium\Reflect\
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote
Correction:
Item (1) should read.
1. Update via the Macrium Reflect 'free' 8.0.7279 program
I'm confused to all hell because I didn't see _any_ option to download any version _other_ than v8.0.7690 so can you help me (and others following me) understand what I should have done differently to get version 8.0.7279?
Please see my extensively documented log file located in the archives at
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware/c/yNCcMPcWi7M/m/wMqxNN52AAAJ>
Hi, Wally J.
=> Unfortunately, I can't answer that because my installations in the
past have followed the normal process(request download, get registration
key and download link, download, install, register, use)...rather than
any other route.
Will future security vulnerabilities be fixed?
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
Will future security vulnerabilities be fixed?
It's just your basic backup copying software.
It doesn't even connect to the Internet. It just copies to a hard drive.
What kind of "vulnerability" is a fancy copy command expected to have?
A while back a variety of posts covered the deprecation of the free
version of Macrium Reflect with version 8.0.7279 as the last released version.
A few days ago(Oct 12, iirc) a security update for the free version was released 8.0.7690
To obtain this update for the last free version, the update options are:
1. Update via the Macrium Reflect 'free' 8.0.7690 program
2. Download the free installer stub(small 5526 KB file)
<https://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v8/ReflectDLHF.exe>
3. Download 8.0.7690 from a third party hosting site.
Note:
- Item (2) is the link to download the free version installer
- The terminology in the file name is(D-irect L-ink, H-ome, F-ree)
- The free installer when run will download V.8.0.7690
- The free stub installer version is 8.1.7675
- The free stub installer version only applies to exe file of the stub installer, not the free version(8.0.7690) that will download when the
stub installer is run
- ****Do not change the name**** of the stub installer. The name is
necessary to have the option to download the free version(8.0.7690)
- Do remember when updating the free version to a later version number
to recreate new boot Macrium Reflect media
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote
=> Unfortunately, I can't answer that because my installations in the
past have followed the normal process(request download, get registration
key and download link, download, install, register, use)...rather than
any other route.
Thanks for trying to explain the delta between expectations and reality.
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware/c/yNCcMPcWi7M/m/wMqxNN52AAAJ>
My empirical results were that the stub link you provided downloaded and installed what appeared to be a free-for-non-commercial use installer
(which was named "v8.0.7690_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe" for 64-bit).
I installed it without it asking for my email address but I didn't _use_ it (as I deleted it after running it and checking a few settings check boxes).
So it seems to me, in my experiment anyway, that is _is_ a free version.
But I only installed it and clicked a few buttons & then uninstalled it.
Is it trialware?
Does it die in a week?
Or are you suggesting in your reply above had I actually tried to _use_ it
to make a backup, that it would have asked me to register with email?
Is it trialware?
Does it die in a week?
Or are you suggesting in your reply above had I actually tried to _use_ it >> to make a backup, that it would have asked me to register with email?
Not suggesting anyone use it or try it.
Decision to download, use, etc. is up to each person to make that choice
for themselves.
The original post was information and primarily for those using Macrium Reflect Free.
<the freeware group removed from this reply)
Is it trialware?
Does it die in a week?
Or are you suggesting in your reply above had I actually tried to _use_ it >> to make a backup, that it would have asked me to register with email?
Not suggesting anyone use it or try it.
Decision to download, use, etc. is up to each person to make that choice
for themselves.
The original post was information and primarily for those using Macrium Reflect Free.
<the freeware group removed from this reply)
Is it trialware?
Does it die in a week?
Or are you suggesting in your reply above had I actually tried to _use_ it >> to make a backup, that it would have asked me to register with email?
Not suggesting anyone use it or try it.
Decision to download, use, etc. is up to each person to make that choice
for themselves.
The original post was information and primarily for those using Macrium Reflect Free.
<the freeware group removed from this reply)
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote
Is it trialware?
Does it die in a week?
Or are you suggesting in your reply above had I actually tried to _use_ it >>> to make a backup, that it would have asked me to register with email?
Not suggesting anyone use it or try it.
Decision to download, use, etc. is up to each person to make that choice
for themselves.
The original post was information and primarily for those using Macrium
Reflect Free.
<the freeware group removed from this reply)
Thanks.
I tried to get the answer twice so I'll simply give up on asking why you suggested the older version as being the last known good free version when the current (newer) version "appears to me to be" also a good free version.
I've tested almost all the software ever suggested on this newsgroup, so I understand fully that what makes something the "last known good version" isn't usually the fact that it's free - but something else - like ads - or the licensing terms - or the addition of unwanted pop ups - and the like.
In this case, I very much appreciate your advice on which version is the
last known good version, but when I empirically test it - it doesn't match.
For example, there is a last known good version of Super or the last known good version of Paint Shop Pro because of the unwanted stuff added after.
I can't for the life of me figure out why the current version isn't the
last known good version as it seems to fit the criteria better.
No big deal. I'll just assume version 8.0.7690 is the last known good
version and I will document it in my extensive archives accordingly.
Thanks for your purposefully helpful advice, intended to help others.
Wally J wrote:
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote
Is it trialware?
Does it die in a week?
Or are you suggesting in your reply above had I actually tried to _use_ it >>>> to make a backup, that it would have asked me to register with email?
Not suggesting anyone use it or try it.
Decision to download, use, etc. is up to each person to make that choice >>> for themselves.
The original post was information and primarily for those using Macrium
Reflect Free.
<the freeware group removed from this reply)
Thanks.
I tried to get the answer twice so I'll simply give up on asking why you
suggested the older version as being the last known good free version when >> the current (newer) version "appears to me to be" also a good free version. >>
I've tested almost all the software ever suggested on this newsgroup, so I >> understand fully that what makes something the "last known good version"
isn't usually the fact that it's free - but something else - like ads - or >> the licensing terms - or the addition of unwanted pop ups - and the like.
In this case, I very much appreciate your advice on which version is the
last known good version, but when I empirically test it - it doesn't match. >>
For example, there is a last known good version of Super or the last known >> good version of Paint Shop Pro because of the unwanted stuff added after.
I can't for the life of me figure out why the current version isn't the
last known good version as it seems to fit the criteria better.
No big deal. I'll just assume version 8.0.7690 is the last known good
version and I will document it in my extensive archives accordingly.
Thanks for your purposefully helpful advice, intended to help others.
It's quite simple
7279 was the last released version
7690 was a security update for 7279
While the version number changed b/c of the security update, the program's free features did not. Also unlike 8.0.7279
and earlier were any fixes released
- It's the same old, same old but a tweak to protect against a vulnerability.
Would this be easier for you to understand?
8.0 is the last released free version
Update 7690 doesn't update the version, only the build number.
i.e. those last four digits are the build number of the version
I'm quite confident that those who are using Macrium Reflect Free understood that 8.0 is the last free released version,
and 7690 update's that prior version's build number.
You can document whatever you wish in a personal archive.
Finally, fyi...only one post is sufficient for a reply rather than three identical replies.
Finally, fyi...only one post is sufficient for a reply rather than three identical replies.I've had the dupe replies myself once. It's probably 115 doing it, Eternal-Sept never did it for me.
It's quite simple
7279 was the last released version
7690 was a security update for 7279
While the version number changed b/c of the security update, the
program's free features did not. Also unlike 8.0.7279 and earlier were
any fixes released
- It's the same old, same old but a tweak to protect against a vulnerability.
Would this be easier for you to understand?
8.0 is the last released free version
Update 7690 doesn't update the version, only the build number.
i.e. those last four digits are the build number of the version
I'm quite confident that those who are using Macrium Reflect Free
understood that 8.0 is the last free released version, and 7690 update's
that prior version's build number.
You can document whatever you wish in a personal archive.
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote
It's quite simple
7279 was the last released version
7690 was a security update for 7279
While the version number changed b/c of the security update, the
program's free features did not. Also unlike 8.0.7279 and earlier were
any fixes released
- It's the same old, same old but a tweak to protect against a
vulnerability.
Would this be easier for you to understand?
8.0 is the last released free version
Update 7690 doesn't update the version, only the build number.
i.e. those last four digits are the build number of the version
I'm quite confident that those who are using Macrium Reflect Free
understood that 8.0 is the last free released version, and 7690 update's
that prior version's build number.
Thanks for clarifying that the latest major release is version 8 which is what you get when you use the stub installer - and the latest subversion of that release is which is what you get when you use the stub installer.
*Mentioning any other sub version is meaningless*. (AFAICT)
In fact, mentioning any other sub version is worse than meaningless as it becomes confusing to those who are installing the app as per your links.
The only thing we need to know is 8.0.7690 is currently the last known good version (but other versions may happen between now & the EOL in 3 months).
Thanks. It's clear(er) now, finally.
Much appreciated the clarifications.
- ****Do not change the name**** of the stub installer. The name is
necessary to have the option to download the free version(8.0.7690)
- ****Do not change the name**** of the stub installer. The name is
necessary to have the option to download the free version(8.0.7690)
Yeah, no. I've got 8.0.6560. I changed the name /and/ I downloaded v8.0.7690_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe with it. Unless they changed
something, you can definitely change the name.
(BTW this should be in alt.comp.freeware.)
- If not having installed and registered in the past, installing the product first time may require a similar registration sequence.
- If not having installed and registered in the past, installing the product first time may require a similar registration sequence.
Just updated free v8.0.7279 to free v8.0.7690. The $80 premium Macrium Reflect version is quite pricey. Do I need to take any special steps to convert the free version to premium? I want to maintain the ability to boot into the recovery mode.
Is there any free alternative to Macrium Reflect?
Acronis True Image WD Edition / Seagate DiscWizard Price : Free <=== needed branded hardware, Seagate disk for Seagate versionre:
Active@ Disk Image 6 Price: Free (Lite version)
AOMEI Backupper 1.6 Price: Free for personal and commercial use
EaseUS Todo Backup 6.5 Price: Free
Macrium Reflect 5.2 Price: Free
Paragon Backup and Recovery 14 Price: Free
In my career, I've had some comedic moments at work, when staff
discover that nobody tested the restore, and it didn't work.
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
In my career, I've had some comedic moments at work, when staff
discover that nobody tested the restore, and it didn't work.
Paul,
What do these backup programs do that a basic copy won't do?
Me?
a. I copy my C:\data folder (which contains all data I care about).
b. I copy my C:\menu (so I can re-used the menu on another system).
c. I copy my C:\archive folder (so I have a copy of all installers).
What else do you really need for a backup if your purpose is to
set up a new system or wipe out the old corrupted system & renew it.
What else do you really need for a backup if your purpose is to
set up a new system or wipe out the old corrupted system & renew it.
Backup program runs continuously, copying everything to a backup device;
with no involvement from you, the user.
On 10/22/23 9:56 AM, Paul wrote:
Acronis True Image WD Edition / Seagate DiscWizard Price : Free <=== needed branded hardware, Seagate disk for Seagate versionre:
Active@ Disk Image 6 Price: Free (Lite version)
AOMEI Backupper 1.6 Price: Free for personal and commercial use
EaseUS Todo Backup 6.5 Price: Free
Macrium Reflect 5.2 Price: Free
Paragon Backup and Recovery 14 Price: Free
Acronis True Image WD Edition / Seagate DiscWizard Price : Free <=== needed branded hardware, Seagate disk for Seagate version
Active@ Disk Image 6 Price: Free (Lite version)
AOMEI Backupper 1.6 Price: Free for personal and commercial use
EaseUS Todo Backup 6.5 Price: Free
Macrium Reflect 5.2 Price: Free
Paragon Backup and Recovery 14 Price: Free
Can any of these make a useful bootable drive without an initial m$ environment? Stated differently will any of them work directly under Linux?
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 13:25:17 -0400, ...winston wrote:
- ****Do not change the name**** of the stub installer. The name is
necessary to have the option to download the free version(8.0.7690)
Yeah, no. I've got 8.0.6560. I changed the name /and/ I downloaded v8.0.7690_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe with it. Unless they changed
something, you can definitely change the name.
Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote
What else do you really need for a backup if your purpose is to
set up a new system or wipe out the old corrupted system & renew it.
Backup program runs continuously, copying everything to a backup device;
with no involvement from you, the user.
That's exactly what I said, isn't it?
That rcync automation doesn't require Macrium.
What does Macrium do, that's truly useful, that rsync doesn't already do?
The question is why do we need a special program when something like rsync will copy the critical directories (which are only your data, in reality)?
What does Macrium do that a simple copy of critical data won't already do?
Note: I'm well aware people don't organize their computers so they have no idea where their important data is - so this question assumes people who aren't stupid - who do know where their critical data is.
You only need a few things, IMHO, to "restore" a corrupted system:
a. your data
b. your installers
c. your customizations
What else could you need that you'd use Macrium instead of robocopy?
What else could you need that you'd use Macrium instead of robocopy?
On 10/22/2023 10:18 AM, Nic wrote:Thanks Paul for the convoluted answer, so the short answer is NO, these
On 10/22/23 9:56 AM, Paul wrote:If they make Rescue CDs when you install them on Windows,
Acronis True Image WD Edition / Seagate DiscWizard Price : Free <=== needed branded hardware, Seagate disk for Seagate versionre:
Active@ Disk Image 6 Price: Free (Lite version)
AOMEI Backupper 1.6 Price: Free for personal and commercial use
EaseUS Todo Backup 6.5 Price: Free
Macrium Reflect 5.2 Price: Free
Paragon Backup and Recovery 14 Price: Free
Acronis True Image WD Edition / Seagate DiscWizard Price : Free <=== needed branded hardware, Seagate disk for Seagate version
Active@ Disk Image 6 Price: Free (Lite version)
AOMEI Backupper 1.6 Price: Free for personal and commercial use
EaseUS Todo Backup 6.5 Price: Free
Macrium Reflect 5.2 Price: Free
Paragon Backup and Recovery 14 Price: Free
Can any of these make a useful bootable drive without an initial m$ environment? Stated differently will any of them work directly under Linux?
the Rescue CD might be of use on a Linux box, for "offline"
backups.
I can do that with the Macrium USB key. If I boot the Linux box
with the Macrium USB key, I can back up all the EXT4 partitions
on the Linux box. It will restore such that the drive boots,
but it is not using "intelligence" when it does that. It does
not understand GRUB, but it knows which sectors on the disk that
GRUB uses, and it restores those areas. It would not do anything
clever or useful, with the BLKIDs.
On Windows, it can change/randomize identifiers, then repair the
boot menu, so the thing boots again. The level of service on
Linux is different, I guess you could say, Macrium is closer to
a Clonezilla when working with a Linux disk.
The problem with moving Windows programs to Linux/WINE, is the
physical layer can be off-limits. I don't think WINE particularly
makes /dev/sda available to a Windows program. WINE does make
a Drive_C available to Windows programs, so they have an NTFS
file system to work with. But I don't recollect it being
able to make the raw disk layer available.
*******
For a quick test of physical layer access, you could use one
of these. Try these from your WINE launcher. The ZIP contains
a 32-bit program, the other file is a prototype 64-bit version.
http://www.chrysocome.net/download
dd-0.6beta3.zip 191 kb 2010-07-17 19:48-0700
ddrelease64.exe 2.3 Mb 2017-01-18 13:40-0800
And when you get it, you can try the equivalent of this in WINE.
dd.exe --list
and that will show the namespace of the storage.
This is the equivalent of /dev/sdb , stated as a Windows namespace.
That's an entire hard drive (Partition0 means a partition that starts
at sector 0 on the physical drive).
\\?\Device\Harddisk1\Partition0
link to \\?\Device\Harddisk1\DR1
Fixed hard disk media. Block size = 512
size is 37748736000 bytes
If that's what WINE showed as an output, when running that dd.exe
invocation, then it means a Windows-ecosystem backup program could potentially run and be useful.
Otherwise, if a backup program starts up and immediately starts
scanning the namespace, it is going to die and exit, without
doing anything useful. There would also be the problem, that
WINE isn't going to have a working VSS for "freezing" copies
of partitions for backup (for "online" backups).
Summary: Your best chance of success or of getting value from a
potential Windows backup program, is to make its Rescue disc,
and do "offline" backups with it. You could make a Macrium
Reflect USB key for example, using Virtualbox on Linux and
installing a Windows (with no license key), installing Macrium
and using USB passthru to build a USB stick. That's about as
close to not getting my hands dirty, as I could get, for
prepping media. Making CDs that way, would be... difficult.
Some version of some VM hosting software, claims to be able to
operate a DVD writer in passthru, but I'll believe that when I see it :-)
Making USB sticks is more likely to work. Because I have done that.
Paul
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