This is for Google, others may behave differently.
My phone has a large capacity for photos, it has an SD card in it.
Google only offers 15GB for backup. When setting up my phone I said yes
to backup, thinking it would just stop when full.
But now I get an email saying nearly full and if I don't delete things
gmail won't work. So I'm about to delete things form Google then think, "are those photos safe on my phone?" A search says no. Synch can
actually delete from the other device. I nearly destroyed 1000 holiday snaps.
Computers assuming is a bad thing.
If two things hold a copy, and one gets full, you might delete some
things. You don't want to delete them everywhere!
If I have a music CD, and I make you a copy and give it to you, neither
of us should be able to make the other one get thrown in the bin because
one of us wants rid of it!
On 2023-10-16 01:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
This is for Google, others may behave differently.
My phone has a large capacity for photos, it has an SD card in it.
Google only offers 15GB for backup. When setting up my phone I said yes
to backup, thinking it would just stop when full.
But now I get an email saying nearly full and if I don't delete things
gmail won't work. So I'm about to delete things form Google then think,
"are those photos safe on my phone?" A search says no. Synch can
actually delete from the other device. I nearly destroyed 1000 holiday
snaps.
Correct.
New google contractual conditions.
You surely got an email telling you about them.
You could configure the "backup" to not save photos at the original resolution and quality, but letting google compress or optimize them. In
that case you can store many more.
Or you can buy more space at google.
Or you can backup them somewhere else, for example at Amazon Prime
services. Currently no limits.
Computers assuming is a bad thing.
If two things hold a copy, and one gets full, you might delete some
things. You don't want to delete them everywhere!
If I have a music CD, and I make you a copy and give it to you, neither
of us should be able to make the other one get thrown in the bin because
one of us wants rid of it!
And your question is...?
On 2023-10-16 01:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
This is for Google, others may behave differently.And your question is...?
My phone has a large capacity for photos, it has an SD card in it. Google only offers 15GB for backup. When setting up my phone I said yes to backup, thinking it would just stop when full.
On 10/15/2023 7:40 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-10-16 01:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
This is for Google, others may behave differently.And your question is...?
My phone has a large capacity for photos, it has an SD card in it. Google only offers 15GB for backup. When setting up my phone I said yes to backup, thinking it would just stop when full.
This is obviously an awful way to deal with photos.
If the SD card has photos on it.
1) Unplug it.
2) Plug into the SD card port on the laptop, copy the stuff.
3) Done.
I didn't know my laptop had a port. There was one of those
"black plastic fillers" in the hole. I also have a
USB to SD adapter for the job.
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 00:40:08 +0100, Carlos E. R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-10-16 01:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
This is for Google, others may behave differently.
My phone has a large capacity for photos, it has an SD card in it.
Google only offers 15GB for backup. When setting up my phone I said yes >>> to backup, thinking it would just stop when full.
But now I get an email saying nearly full and if I don't delete things
gmail won't work. So I'm about to delete things form Google then think, >>> "are those photos safe on my phone?" A search says no. Synch can
actually delete from the other device. I nearly destroyed 1000 holiday >>> snaps.
Correct.
New google contractual conditions.
What have "contractual conditions" got to do with the way the system works?
You surely got an email telling you about them.
If I did I would have deleted it. You do realise those are written in legalese and no normal person can comprehend them?
You could configure the "backup" to not save photos at the original
resolution and quality, but letting google compress or optimize them. In
that case you can store many more.
I saw no such option.
Or you can buy more space at google.
Absolutely not!
Or you can backup them somewhere else, for example at Amazon Prime
services. Currently no limits.
I make my own copies, on devices on my own property, so I know where everything is.
Computers assuming is a bad thing.
If two things hold a copy, and one gets full, you might delete some
things. You don't want to delete them everywhere!
If I have a music CD, and I make you a copy and give it to you, neither
of us should be able to make the other one get thrown in the bin because >>> one of us wants rid of it!
And your question is...?
I made that very clear at the beginning. Synchronising things to back
them up should not cause something to be deleted in all places just
because you delete it from one.
It's all very well when you take a photo on your phone, it's then copied
to your computer, your other phone, the cloud, etc. That's nice if you
lose your phone.
But if I decide I don't need 500 holiday snaps on phone 2, I don't
expect them to auto-delete from elsewhere, this is beyond insanity!
But if I decide I don't need 500 holiday snaps on phone 2, I don't
expect them to auto-delete from elsewhere, this is beyond insanity!
Misunderstanding on your part :-p
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 00:40:08 +0100, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-10-16 01:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
This is for Google, others may behave differently.
My phone has a large capacity for photos, it has an SD card in it.
Google only offers 15GB for backup. When setting up my phone I said yes >>> to backup, thinking it would just stop when full.
But now I get an email saying nearly full and if I don't delete things
gmail won't work. So I'm about to delete things form Google then think, >>> "are those photos safe on my phone?" A search says no. Synch can
actually delete from the other device. I nearly destroyed 1000 holiday
snaps.
Correct.
New google contractual conditions.
What have "contractual conditions" got to do with the way the system works?
You surely got an email telling you about them.
If I did I would have deleted it. You do realise those are written in legalese and no normal person can comprehend them?
You could configure the "backup" to not save photos at the original
resolution and quality, but letting google compress or optimize them. In
that case you can store many more.
I saw no such option.
Or you can buy more space at google.
Absolutely not!
Or you can backup them somewhere else, for example at Amazon Prime
services. Currently no limits.
I make my own copies, on devices on my own property, so I know where everything is.
Computers assuming is a bad thing.
If two things hold a copy, and one gets full, you might delete some
things. You don't want to delete them everywhere!
If I have a music CD, and I make you a copy and give it to you, neither
of us should be able to make the other one get thrown in the bin because >>> one of us wants rid of it!
And your question is...?
I made that very clear at the beginning. Synchronising things to back
them up should not cause something to be deleted in all places just
because you delete it from one.
It's all very well when you take a photo on your phone, it's then copied
to your computer, your other phone, the cloud, etc. That's nice if you lose your phone.
But if I decide I don't need 500 holiday snaps on phone 2, I don't expect them to auto-delete from elsewhere, this is beyond insanity!
On 2023-10-16 05:43, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 00:40:08 +0100, Carlos E. R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-10-16 01:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
This is for Google, others may behave differently.
My phone has a large capacity for photos, it has an SD card in it.
Google only offers 15GB for backup. When setting up my phone I said yes >>>> to backup, thinking it would just stop when full.
But now I get an email saying nearly full and if I don't delete things >>>> gmail won't work. So I'm about to delete things form Google then think, >>>> "are those photos safe on my phone?" A search says no. Synch can
actually delete from the other device. I nearly destroyed 1000 holiday >>>> snaps.
Correct.
New google contractual conditions.
What have "contractual conditions" got to do with the way the system works?
Because they changed how the system works.
You surely got an email telling you about them.
If I did I would have deleted it. You do realise those are written in
legalese and no normal person can comprehend them?
Not true, I understood them and my first language is not English.
You could configure the "backup" to not save photos at the original
resolution and quality, but letting google compress or optimize them. In >>> that case you can store many more.
I saw no such option.
You didn't look much.
Or you can buy more space at google.
Absolutely not!
well, it is your option. It is not evil. :-p
Or you can backup them somewhere else, for example at Amazon Prime
services. Currently no limits.
I make my own copies, on devices on my own property, so I know where
everything is.
Good.
Computers assuming is a bad thing.
If two things hold a copy, and one gets full, you might delete some
things. You don't want to delete them everywhere!
If I have a music CD, and I make you a copy and give it to you, neither >>>> of us should be able to make the other one get thrown in the bin because >>>> one of us wants rid of it!
And your question is...?
I made that very clear at the beginning. Synchronising things to back
them up should not cause something to be deleted in all places just
because you delete it from one.
Yes, it should. It is doing as advertised, keeping things in sync. It
even tells you in a popup.
It's all very well when you take a photo on your phone, it's then copied
to your computer, your other phone, the cloud, etc. That's nice if you
lose your phone.
But if I decide I don't need 500 holiday snaps on phone 2, I don't
expect them to auto-delete from elsewhere, this is beyond insanity!
Misunderstanding on your part :-p
This is for Google, others may behave differently.
My phone has a large capacity for photos, it has an SD card in it.
Google only offers 15GB for backup. When setting up my phone I said
yes to backup, thinking it would just stop when full.
But now I get an email saying nearly full and if I don't delete
things gmail won't work. So I'm about to delete things form Google
then think, "are those photos safe on my phone?" A search says no.
Synch can actually delete from the other device. I nearly destroyed
1000 holiday snaps.
Computers assuming is a bad thing.
If two things hold a copy, and one gets full, you might delete some
things. You don't want to delete them everywhere!
If I have a music CD, and I make you a copy and give it to you,
neither of us should be able to make the other one get thrown in the
bin because one of us wants rid of it!
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 07:54:08 +0100, Carlos E. R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-10-16 05:43, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 00:40:08 +0100, Carlos E. R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-10-16 01:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
This is for Google, others may behave differently.
My phone has a large capacity for photos, it has an SD card in it.
Google only offers 15GB for backup. When setting up my phone I
said yes
to backup, thinking it would just stop when full.
But now I get an email saying nearly full and if I don't delete things >>>>> gmail won't work. So I'm about to delete things form Google then
think,
"are those photos safe on my phone?" A search says no. Synch can >>>>> actually delete from the other device. I nearly destroyed 1000
holiday
snaps.
Correct.
New google contractual conditions.
What have "contractual conditions" got to do with the way the system
works?
Because they changed how the system works.
A contract is to do with what they charge you for etc, not what they
fuck up.
On 2023-10-16 12:58, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 07:54:08 +0100, Carlos E. R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-10-16 05:43, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 00:40:08 +0100, Carlos E. R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-10-16 01:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
This is for Google, others may behave differently.
My phone has a large capacity for photos, it has an SD card in it. >>>>>> Google only offers 15GB for backup. When setting up my phone I
said yes
to backup, thinking it would just stop when full.
But now I get an email saying nearly full and if I don't delete things >>>>>> gmail won't work. So I'm about to delete things form Google then
think,
"are those photos safe on my phone?" A search says no. Synch can >>>>>> actually delete from the other device. I nearly destroyed 1000
holiday
snaps.
Correct.
New google contractual conditions.
What have "contractual conditions" got to do with the way the system
works?
Because they changed how the system works.
A contract is to do with what they charge you for etc, not what they
fuck up.
You are trolling again.
On 10/16/2023 1:18 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 05:18:28 +0100, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:There are several ways to transfer files from the phone to the computer.
On 10/15/2023 7:40 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-10-16 01:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
This is for Google, others may behave differently.And your question is...?
My phone has a large capacity for photos, it has an SD card in it.
Google only offers 15GB for backup. When setting up my phone I said >>>>> yes to backup, thinking it would just stop when full.
This is obviously an awful way to deal with photos.
If the SD card has photos on it.
1) Unplug it.
2) Plug into the SD card port on the laptop, copy the stuff.
3) Done.
I didn't know my laptop had a port. There was one of those
"black plastic fillers" in the hole. I also have a
USB to SD adapter for the job.
The synch is a good idea in principle, the photos are backed up as you
take them, without your intervention, and while you're away on holiday.
But for manual copying, I don't take the SD card out of the phone. I'd
have to remove the silicone protective surround, use a pin to remove the
tiny little tray containing the SD card and SIM, remove the miniature SD
card smaller than my fingernail, not drop it and stand on it, plug it
into a computer, then do all that in reverse, all wearing out tiny
little connections. No, I just use a USB cable to copy on mass. Or the
app "KDE Connect", which allows transmitting a photo or several over
wireless. It refused when I selected 1000, so I used the cable.
If they have been synced to the cloud. go download them from the cloud
to your computer.
If you do it frequently, you can do it by Bluetooth,
or with the right software, through you local LAN. (I assume Apple
phone can download to a PC. I know an android phone will.)
If you have a computer with limited storage which is most computers sold today, buy two external hard drives of a couple of TB each and move the files on the computer to them
If the SD card has photos on it.
1) Unplug it.
2) Plug into the SD card port on the laptop, copy the stuff.
3) Done.
I didn't know my laptop had a port. There was one of those
"black plastic fillers" in the hole. I also have a
USB to SD adapter for the job.
Paul
On 2023-10-16 12:58, Commander Kinsey wrote:
A contract is to do with what they charge you for etc, not what they
fuck up.
You are trolling again.
But now I get an email saying nearly full and if I don't delete things gmail won't work. So I'm about to delete things form Google then think, "are those photos safe on my phone?" A search says no. Synch can actually delete from the other device. Inearly destroyed 1000 holiday snaps.
Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
This is for Google, others may behave differently.
My phone has a large capacity for photos, it has an SD card in it.
Google only offers 15GB for backup. When setting up my phone I said
yes to backup, thinking it would just stop when full.
But now I get an email saying nearly full and if I don't delete
things gmail won't work. So I'm about to delete things form Google
then think, "are those photos safe on my phone?" A search says no.
Synch can actually delete from the other device. I nearly destroyed
1000 holiday snaps.
Computers assuming is a bad thing.
If two things hold a copy, and one gets full, you might delete some
things. You don't want to delete them everywhere!
If I have a music CD, and I make you a copy and give it to you,
neither of us should be able to make the other one get thrown in the
bin because one of us wants rid of it!
No, you assuming is bad. You thought e-mail, photo, and other services
had separate quotas. Nope, it's all one shared quota. If you need more space, but it. Else, learn to trim. Be more neat with your quota than
you are with the interior of your house.
You don't get to use more quota just because you want it. You're a freeloader, like many of us, using someone else's service.
You comply with their quota. It's their service, not yours. Google, nor any online storage provider or e-mail provider, are your parents doling out
free stuff to their kids at their expense.
If you won't comply with a service's quotas, don't use them.
You get one quota to share across all Google services: Gmail, Google
Drive, and Google Photos. The quota is by account, not by individual service.
https://support.google.com/googleone/answer/9312312?hl=en
https://one.google.com/storage#upgrade
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 13:28:45 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-10-16 12:58, Commander Kinsey wrote:
A contract is to do with what they charge you for etc, not what they
fuck up.
You are trolling again.
And successfully, it would seem. :-(
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 00:24:21 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"I nearly destroyed 1000 holiday snaps.
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
But now I get an email saying nearly full and if I don't delete things gmail won't work. So I'm about to delete things form Google then think, "are those photos safe on my phone?" A search says no. Synch can actually delete from the other device.
The fotos should be still in the trash can of Google Fotos for 4 weeks
where you can get them back.
In the Google Fotos App you can change the compression level for
uploading from "original" to a bit compressed, which will help a lot.
You can change the compression level even after uploading in the
online version of Google Fotos.
You can download all your pictures from Google Fotos to your PC for an offline backup, if you want. Then you can delete them in Google Fotos.
If you want to keep them in your phone then copy or move them to a
directory that Google Fotos does not manage on your phone.
Google One is quite cheap, if you need more capacity.
Why would I settle for inferior copies? What if I used one of those because I was accessing them from the web,
and ended up with half the quality missing? I take 50MP HDR images and expect them to stay that way.
Google One is quite cheap, if you need more capacity.
They charge £1.50 per month for the smallest upgrade!
On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 00:13:39 +0100, "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@spam.com>
wrote:
Why would I settle for inferior copies? What if I used one of those because I was accessing them from the web,
and ended up with half the quality missing? I take 50MP HDR images and expect them to stay that way.
You should compare the compressed version with the original one and
decide, whether much bigger files are worth the little difference in
quality (if any).
A print 10*15 cm needs 3 MP. Your eyes can resolve about 6 MP: https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm
Google shrinks to 16 MP, which is enough for me.
Google One is quite cheap, if you need more capacity.
They charge £1.50 per month for the smallest upgrade!
I pay per year, 200 GB for 30 Euro, which I consider cheap. Most of
the space is used for my locally encrypted backups. And up to 6
persons can share this space.
I have >100,000 pictures on my hard drives, and some videos, which
would be too much for storing online. But I like Google Fotos for
temporary storing of fotos (before download for local backup, then
deleted online), uploaded automatically from smartphone, distributed
the within family and friends.
A print 10*15 cm needs 3 MP. Your eyes can resolve about 6 MP:
https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm
Don't believe everything you read.
Also, who looks at 10x15cm? We did that to save money back in the days of film and expensive developing. I look at photos on a 40 inch TV.
And you're forgetting people might want to zoom in on something. Never ever remove MP.
Google shrinks to 16 MP, which is enough for me.
What if it's 6 people? I really don't get why some folk distinguish between persons and people.
I have >100,000 pictures on my hard drives, and some videos, which
would be too much for storing online. But I like Google Fotos for
Can you or Google not spell? It's photos.
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:35:52 +0100, Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 00:13:39 +0100, "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@spam.com>
wrote:
Why would I settle for inferior copies? What if I used one of those
because I was accessing them from the web,
and ended up with half the quality missing? I take 50MP HDR images and
expect them to stay that way.
You should compare the compressed version with the original one and
decide, whether much bigger files are worth the little difference in
quality (if any).
A print 10*15 cm needs 3 MP. Your eyes can resolve about 6 MP:
https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm
Don't believe everything you read.
Also, who looks at 10x15cm? We did that to save money back in the days
of film and expensive developing. I look at photos on a 40 inch TV.
If it's 4k it'll only be 9MP so a compressed 50MP photo will look just
fine.
On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 05:32:10 +0100, "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@spam.com>
wrote:
A print 10*15 cm needs 3 MP. Your eyes can resolve about 6 MP:
https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm
Don't believe everything you read.
Also, who looks at 10x15cm? We did that to save money back in the days of film and expensive developing. I look at photos on a 40 inch TV.
A 10cm x15 cm foto is printed with 300 dpi. That`s
10/2.54*15/2.54x300x300= about 2.1 MP.
Your 40 inch TV may be 4 k, 16:9. That`s 4096x2304 or 9.4 MP. But from
a reasonable viewing distance, the eye's resolution is lower.
Your biological limitation of about 6 MP resolution when viewing a
photo as a whole cannot be removed.
And you're forgetting people might want to zoom in on something. Never ever remove MP.
Google shrinks to 16 MP, which is enough for me.
What if it's 6 people? I really don't get why some folk distinguish between persons and people.
I am German and have no particular interest in the intricacies of the
English language. If you understand what I am talking about, it was
expressed well enough.
I have >100,000 pictures on my hard drives, and some videos, which
would be too much for storing online. But I like Google Fotos for
Can you or Google not spell? It's photos.
In germany it is Google Fotos.
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