I've just wasted an hour while Windows 10 tried to do it's latest
monthly update. Clearly something wasn't right, so I wasn't surprised
when it eventually said something like "unable to complete update,
undoing changes", which took another 10 minutes or so. (I'm on version
22H2, 32-bit.) I imagine the update contained some bug, and that it will
try again with a fixed version in a few days. I can remember that
happening once before some time ago.
I've just wasted an hour while Windows 10 tried to do it's latest
monthly update. Clearly something wasn't right, so I wasn't surprised
when it eventually said something like "unable to complete update,
undoing changes", which took another 10 minutes or so. (I'm on version
22H2, 32-bit.) I imagine the update contained some bug, and that it will
try again with a fixed version in a few days. I can remember that
happening once before some time ago.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:59:38 +0100, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
I've just wasted an hour while Windows 10 tried to do it's latest
monthly update. Clearly something wasn't right, so I wasn't surprised
when it eventually said something like "unable to complete update,
undoing changes", which took another 10 minutes or so. (I'm on version
22H2, 32-bit.) I imagine the update contained some bug, and that it will
try again with a fixed version in a few days. I can remember that
happening once before some time ago.
Two years ago it didn't undo its changes and I had almost 3 months when
the computer wouldn't start.
I had just installed a somewhat unusual program and I thought I'd
created the problem, but I didnt' know how to fix that either.
I spent 10 or 20 hours with various reputable fix-it programs, linux
based iirc, with no luck. (Except I was able to extract my data and
move it to the laptop.)
Finally I saw something that mentioned in passing pressing some high
F-key, 11 or 12, I think, while starting the computer, and that's all I
had to do. I told people here and on home.repair and got no reaction,
even though I think it was extremely important to know about.
By this time it was 3 months later and the next update, which I assumed included what had been a bad file, worked fine. Although now I see my windows updates haven't run since about that time!
Be happy none of this applies to you. YET, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!
On 10/11/2023 9:06 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:59:38 +0100, John Hall
<john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
I've just wasted an hour while Windows 10 tried to do it's latest
monthly update. Clearly something wasn't right, so I wasn't surprised
when it eventually said something like "unable to complete update,
undoing changes", which took another 10 minutes or so. (I'm on version
22H2, 32-bit.) I imagine the update contained some bug, and that it will >>> try again with a fixed version in a few days. I can remember that
happening once before some time ago.
Two years ago it didn't undo its changes and I had almost 3 months when
the computer wouldn't start.
I had just installed a somewhat unusual program and I thought I'd
created the problem, but I didnt' know how to fix that either.
I spent 10 or 20 hours with various reputable fix-it programs, linux
based iirc, with no luck. (Except I was able to extract my data and
move it to the laptop.)
Finally I saw something that mentioned in passing pressing some high
F-key, 11 or 12, I think, while starting the computer, and that's all I
had to do. I told people here and on home.repair and got no reaction,
even though I think it was extremely important to know about.
By this time it was 3 months later and the next update, which I assumed
included what had been a bad file, worked fine. Although now I see my
windows updates haven't run since about that time!
Be happy none of this applies to you. YET, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!
Do you see anything here that rings a bell ?
https://www.minitool.com/news/windows-10-function-keys-f1-f12.html
F11 Access the hidden recovery partition on some computers including Lenovo.
Press Ctrl + F11 to access hidden recovery partition on many Dell computers.
Anything that fixes a computer, is extremely important in the instant
it does something.
Paul
Googling now, I find little, but >https://www.ubackup.com/articles/f11-system-recovery-not-working-5740i.html
F11 is a special key set by HP, Dell, or Lenovo computer manufacturer
to recover system to computer default settings when your computer (PCs, >notebooks, desktops) corrupted due to hardware or software failure.
Okay, so it includes HP, which this is, but it shows first getting a
menu. I didn't get any menu. It just restarted, correctly, after I'd
tried that 30 times in the previous 3 months, when I didn't use F11.
"However, many users report that F11 system recovery is not working,
this may be caused mistaken deletion or overwriting. Also, if you
upgrade Windows 7/8/8.1 to Windows 10 or download to previous system,
this error will occur. At this time, you cannot boot your computer and
do the system recovery. Don't worry about it! Read the content in the
next part and fix this error..... F11 is very useful when you want to
factory reset your computer to its default settings, but you may not
want to use it if your computer works well. Since it will delete
everything on your computer, leaving a fresh version of system only."
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:59:38 +0100, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
I've just wasted an hour while Windows 10 tried to do it's latest
monthly update. Clearly something wasn't right, so I wasn't surprised
when it eventually said something like "unable to complete update,
undoing changes", which took another 10 minutes or so. (I'm on version >22H2, 32-bit.) I imagine the update contained some bug, and that it will >try again with a fixed version in a few days. I can remember that
happening once before some time ago.
Two years ago it didn't undo its changes and I had almost 3 months when
the computer wouldn't start.
I had just installed a somewhat unusual program and I thought I'd
created the problem, but I didnt' know how to fix that either.
I spent 10 or 20 hours with various reputable fix-it programs, linux
based iirc, with no luck. (Except I was able to extract my data and
move it to the laptop.)
Finally I saw something that mentioned in passing pressing some high
F-key, 11 or 12, I think, while starting the computer, and that's all I
had to do. I told people here and on home.repair and got no reaction,
even though I think it was extremely important to know about.
By this time it was 3 months later and the next update, which I assumed included what had been a bad file, worked fine. Although now I see my windows updates haven't run since about that time!
Be happy none of this applies to you. YET, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!
I've just wasted an hour while Windows 10 tried to do it's latest
monthly update. Clearly something wasn't right, so I wasn't surprised
when it eventually said something like "unable to complete update,
undoing changes", which took another 10 minutes or so. (I'm on version
22H2, 32-bit.) I imagine the update contained some bug, and that it will
try again with a fixed version in a few days. I can remember that
happening once before some time ago.
I've just wasted an hour while Windows 10 tried to do it's latest
monthly update. Clearly something wasn't right, so I wasn't surprised
when it eventually said something like "unable to complete update,
undoing changes", which took another 10 minutes or so. (I'm on version
22H2, 32-bit.) I imagine the update contained some bug, and that it
will try again with a fixed version in a few days. I can remember that >happening once before some time ago.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:06:06 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
Googling now, I find little, but
https://www.ubackup.com/articles/f11-system-recovery-not-working-5740i.html
Further down on this same page I find a recommendation for AOMEI OneKey Recovery, which it says creates a recovery partition (sort of like what
some manufacturers make) and iiuc you can update it periodically so it's
got all your data too.
https://www.ubackup.com/onekey-recovery.html
Any opinions on this? The first 3 reviews I saw were good.
Not only is my desktop refurbished but I redid my laptop from scratch,
maybe because I was replacing a bad drive with an SSD. If the drive
wasn't bad, I didn't think that it might have a hidden recovery
partition. Didn't try to copy or duplicate it. Shame on me. Or maybe it wasn't win10. Would onekey-recovery put me good again?
F11 is a special key set by HP, Dell, or Lenovo computer manufacturer
to recover system to computer default settings when your computer (PCs,
notebooks, desktops) corrupted due to hardware or software failure.
Okay, so it includes HP, which this is, but it shows first getting a
menu. I didn't get any menu. It just restarted, correctly, after I'd
tried that 30 times in the previous 3 months, when I didn't use F11.
"However, many users report that F11 system recovery is not working,
this may be caused mistaken deletion or overwriting. Also, if you
upgrade Windows 7/8/8.1 to Windows 10 or download to previous system,
this error will occur. At this time, you cannot boot your computer and
do the system recovery. Don't worry about it! Read the content in the
next part and fix this error..... F11 is very useful when you want to
factory reset your computer to its default settings, but you may not
want to use it if your computer works well. Since it will delete
everything on your computer, leaving a fresh version of system only."
I recommend a backup of your nicely configured and clean OS.
Restore it when things go south, and that will save time.
Then, you bring in the latest Cumulative and .NET updates,
and you're back up to date, more or less. Don't forget to
save your email folder and Bookmarks.html file, before
paving anything. And your Downloads.
The machine is usually in a rush to fetch from here. The machine
uses the Windows Update (incremental) version, rather than one
of these full updaters.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/defenderupdates
*******
The problem with some "recovery updater" things, is
they're sysprepped and don't have your applications
on board. That makes such a thing a "pretty clean install".
How this is better than just getting a Win10 disc from
the Microsoft download, I'm not sure. I wasted a lot of
time one day, to find the tool flow was just tossing away
all my apps and making a pretty boring recovery for me.
I have not evaluated any commercial offerings of that
nature, so don't know how good they are. They could be
based upon the WADK kit from Microsoft. That's partially
what Macrium uses for making media and doing neat stuff
(adding drivers to their disc).
Microsoft used to have the concepts of "Reset" and "Refresh",
and one of those keeps your files and applications. I don't
know if those buttons exist today in Win10 or not. They used to.
Paul
John Hall wrote:
I've just wasted an hour while Windows 10 tried to do it's latest
monthly update. Clearly something wasn't right, so I wasn't surprised
when it eventually said something like "unable to complete update,
undoing changes", which took another 10 minutes or so. (I'm on version
22H2, 32-bit.) I imagine the update contained some bug, and that it
will try again with a fixed version in a few days. I can remember that
happening once before some time ago.
Whenever Windows Update fails it's a good idea to check the Win10 image.
Open an admin prompt(Command or Powershell)
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
If the above report repair is necessary, run the following(in admin mode) DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
Also run
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /AnalyzeComponentStore
If component cleanup is recommended, run the following(in admin mode)
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
Repeat the process after RestoreHealth and StartComponentCleanup repairs
the image and cleans the component store.
Then rerun Windows Update(Check for Updates).
If still fails, try as other's have suggested to download the update
manually from the Microsoft Catalog.
- a good idea to ensure that the latest Service Stack is installed.
The latest SSU is KB 5031466 Version 10.0.19041.3562
The last SSU was KB5030503 Version 10.0.19041.3385
- The SSU installed can be seen in Programs and Features/View
Installed Updates.
Microsoft used to have the concepts of "Reset" and "Refresh",
and one of those keeps your files and applications. I don't
know if those buttons exist today in Win10 or not. They used to.
Paul
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