• Windows firefox taskbar icon rightclick remembers every file I ever dow

    From Peter@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 08:45:47 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    I just noticed that when I rightclick on the Firefox icon in the Windows taskbar it shows every file I've ever downloaded over the years.

    I can remove a file by right clicking first on the Firefox icon in the
    taskbar and then rightclicking on the item and then clicking on "Remove
    from this list" but there are thousands of them.

    There doesn't seem to be any setting inside of Windows or Firefox that I
    can find to delete them all. I can't find where this list is stored.

    And I don't want every single file I've ever downloaded to show up in that
    list in the first place since I don't need to know this information.

    Is it a Windows problem?
    Or a Firefox problem?

    How do I get rid of this problem?

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Peter on Thu Sep 28 09:25:13 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Peter wrote:

    I just noticed that when I rightclick on the Firefox icon in the Windows taskbar it shows every file I've ever downloaded over the years.

    I don't see downloads on the "jumplist" just frequent websites, and
    under a dozen rather than several thousand!

    How do I get rid of this problem?

    Settings > Personalisation > Start

    you could try turning off the option for recent options in start, jump
    lists and explorer? Then turn it back on and it might start as empty,
    no idea why it should "go mad" and store thousands though ...

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  • From MikeS@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu Sep 28 14:31:21 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 28/09/2023 09:25, Andy Burns wrote:
    Peter wrote:

    I just noticed that when I rightclick on the Firefox icon in the Windows
    taskbar it shows every file I've ever downloaded over the years.

    I don't see downloads on the "jumplist" just frequent websites, and
    under a dozen rather than several thousand!

    How do I get rid of this problem?

    Settings > Personalisation > Start

    you could try turning off the option for recent options in start, jump
    lists and explorer?  Then turn it back on and it might start as empty,
    no idea why it should "go mad" and store thousands though ...


    Open Firefox, Ctrl J, History/Downloads at the top.
    Delete away.

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  • From Big Al@21:1/5 to this is what MikeS on Thu Sep 28 09:46:45 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 9/28/23 09:31, this is what MikeS wrote:
    On 28/09/2023 09:25, Andy Burns wrote:
    Peter wrote:

    I just noticed that when I rightclick on the Firefox icon in the Windows >>> taskbar it shows every file I've ever downloaded over the years.

    I don't see downloads on the "jumplist" just frequent websites, and under a dozen rather than several thousand!

    How do I get rid of this problem?

    Settings > Personalisation > Start

    you could try turning off the option for recent options in start, jump lists and explorer?  Then turn it back on and
    it might start as empty, no idea why it should "go mad" and store thousands though ...


    Open Firefox, Ctrl J, History/Downloads at the top.
    Delete away.

    Odd. Ctrl-J and Ctrl-K both put me in the URL search bar at the top.
    I can get history->downloads from the library icon I put on the toolbar but not with ctrl-J
    In Linux that is.
    --
    Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon
    Al

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Peter on Thu Sep 28 13:55:49 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 9/28/2023 3:45 AM, Peter wrote:
    I just noticed that when I rightclick on the Firefox icon in the Windows taskbar it shows every file I've ever downloaded over the years.

    I can remove a file by right clicking first on the Firefox icon in the taskbar and then rightclicking on the item and then clicking on "Remove
    from this list" but there are thousands of them.

    There doesn't seem to be any setting inside of Windows or Firefox that I
    can find to delete them all. I can't find where this list is stored.

    And I don't want every single file I've ever downloaded to show up in that list in the first place since I don't need to know this information.

    Is it a Windows problem?
    Or a Firefox problem?

    How do I get rid of this problem?


    Does it look like this ?

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/W32CCX8G/firefox-right-click-taskbar.gif

    Paul

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  • From MikeS@21:1/5 to Big Al on Thu Sep 28 20:24:26 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 28/09/2023 14:46, Big Al wrote:
    On 9/28/23 09:31, this is what MikeS wrote:
    On 28/09/2023 09:25, Andy Burns wrote:
    Peter wrote:

    I just noticed that when I rightclick on the Firefox icon in the
    Windows
    taskbar it shows every file I've ever downloaded over the years.

    I don't see downloads on the "jumplist" just frequent websites, and
    under a dozen rather than several thousand!

    How do I get rid of this problem?

    Settings > Personalisation > Start

    you could try turning off the option for recent options in start,
    jump lists and explorer?  Then turn it back on and it might start as
    empty, no idea why it should "go mad" and store thousands though ...


    Open Firefox, Ctrl J, History/Downloads at the top.
    Delete away.

    Odd.  Ctrl-J and Ctrl-K both put me in the URL search bar at the top.
    I can get history->downloads from the library icon I put on the toolbar
    but not with ctrl-J
    In Linux that is.

    Click the hamburger menu at top right and see what key sequence it shows against Downloads.

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  • From Nobody@21:1/5 to Peter on Thu Sep 28 15:13:52 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 08:45:47 +0100, Peter <confused@nospam.net> wrote:

    I just noticed that when I rightclick on the Firefox icon in the Windows >taskbar it shows every file I've ever downloaded over the years.

    I can remove a file by right clicking first on the Firefox icon in the >taskbar and then rightclicking on the item and then clicking on "Remove
    from this list" but there are thousands of them.

    There doesn't seem to be any setting inside of Windows or Firefox that I
    can find to delete them all. I can't find where this list is stored.

    And I don't want every single file I've ever downloaded to show up in that >list in the first place since I don't need to know this information.

    Is it a Windows problem?

    I'd say so... but stand corrected.

    Or a Firefox problem?

    How do I get rid of this problem?

    I show absolutely zilch downloads/recent items by right clicking the
    Ffox icon (Win 11, Ffox 118.0.1).

    Ffox is set to clear cookies and site data each time it's closed.

    My Windoze settings from hitting Start with right click: Settings > Personalisation > Start and that has the *Default* radio button
    chosen... with all four possibles below as *Off*... and all entries in
    the Folders side-opening pullout likewise all *Off*.

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  • From Peter@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri Sep 29 03:40:17 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    How do I get rid of this problem?


    Does it look like this ?

    https://i.postimg.cc/W32CCX8G/firefox-right-click-taskbar.gif

    Yes. This is what it looks like https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg

    It's mostly PDFs but I deleted scores and scores and scores of them and
    more show up with each deletion. It seems to know every PDF I've ever downloaded.

    All the settings people are suggesting don't have any effect.

    How did YOU get rid of all those Firefox entries once and for all?

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 06:39:46 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Am 29.09.23 um 04:40 schrieb Peter:
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    How do I get rid of this problem?


    Does it look like this ?

    https://i.postimg.cc/W32CCX8G/firefox-right-click-taskbar.gif

    Yes. This is what it looks like https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg

    It's mostly PDFs but I deleted scores and scores and scores of them and
    more show up with each deletion. It seems to know every PDF I've ever downloaded.

    All the settings people are suggesting don't have any effect.

    How did YOU get rid of all those Firefox entries once and for all?

    In the security and privacy section of FF. Delete history when closing FF.

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    De gustibus non est disputandum

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  • From Peter@21:1/5 to hugybear@gmx.net on Fri Sep 29 05:53:56 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    All the settings people are suggesting don't have any effect.

    How did YOU get rid of all those Firefox entries once and for all?

    In the security and privacy section of FF. Delete history when closing FF.

    Do you see the problem on your Windows Firefox taskbar pinned icon or not?

    If you don't see the problem like Paul and I see the problem, you won't be
    able to realize there's nothing in the Firefox settings that affect it.

    If it were that simple, I would never have asked the question at all. https://i.postimg.cc/JzSXdS5M/Clipboard01.jpg

    No. It's not likely to be in the Firefox settings at all.

    It's something to do with how Windows taskbar icons interact with Firefox. https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg

    But what?

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  • From Peter@21:1/5 to MikeS on Fri Sep 29 06:01:01 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote:
    Odd.  Ctrl-J and Ctrl-K both put me in the URL search bar at the top.
    I can get history->downloads from the library icon I put on the toolbar
    but not with ctrl-J
    In Linux that is.

    Click the hamburger menu at top right and see what key sequence it shows against Downloads.

    I think it's something in Windows more than it's something in Firefox.

    I don't think there is any setting inside of Firefox which controls this. https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg

    Every delete and don't save option in Firefox has long ago been set. https://i.postimg.cc/JzSXdS5M/Clipboard01.jpg

    There is nothing in the firefox download history (and there never was). https://i.postimg.cc/65rB6q9d/Clipboard02.jpg

    If you don't see this issue, you'll probably never be able to understand it
    but it seems that Paul has the same issue - so he might figure it out.
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    off (there is no "organization" except lowly old me on my home desktop).

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Peter on Fri Sep 29 02:01:52 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 9/29/2023 1:01 AM, Peter wrote:
    MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote:
    Odd.  Ctrl-J and Ctrl-K both put me in the URL search bar at the top.
    I can get history->downloads from the library icon I put on the toolbar
    but not with ctrl-J
    In Linux that is.

    Click the hamburger menu at top right and see what key sequence it shows
    against Downloads.

    I think it's something in Windows more than it's something in Firefox.

    I don't think there is any setting inside of Firefox which controls this. https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg

    Every delete and don't save option in Firefox has long ago been set. https://i.postimg.cc/JzSXdS5M/Clipboard01.jpg

    There is nothing in the firefox download history (and there never was). https://i.postimg.cc/65rB6q9d/Clipboard02.jpg

    If you don't see this issue, you'll probably never be able to understand it but it seems that Paul has the same issue - so he might figure it out.


    It's a Windows 10 setting that's in the wrong place. See other post.

    I got mine to switch off, so there's no reason to be trashing
    the History on Firefox to make it stop :-)

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Peter on Fri Sep 29 01:58:53 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 9/28/2023 10:40 PM, Peter wrote:
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    How do I get rid of this problem?


    Does it look like this ?

    https://i.postimg.cc/W32CCX8G/firefox-right-click-taskbar.gif

    Yes. This is what it looks like https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg

    It's mostly PDFs but I deleted scores and scores and scores of them and
    more show up with each deletion. It seems to know every PDF I've ever downloaded.

    All the settings people are suggesting don't have any effect.

    How did YOU get rid of all those Firefox entries once and for all?


    Apparently, the control for this is in the wrong place.

    Instead of being a control for the TaskBar, it's a control for a Start Menu (which it is not).

    Google sez...

    *******

    " Go to Settings > Personalization.

    Step 2: Click Start in the left pane and then switch the option –

    Show recently opened items in Jump Lists on
    Start or the taskbar from on to off.
    "

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/kMBZQDgw/recent-frequent-disableby-Settings-Personalize-Start-bottom-item-W10.gif

    Paul

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  • From Peter@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri Sep 29 07:23:27 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    Does it look like this ?

    https://i.postimg.cc/W32CCX8G/firefox-right-click-taskbar.gif

    Yes. This is what it looks like https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg >>
    It's mostly PDFs but I deleted scores and scores and scores of them and
    more show up with each deletion. It seems to know every PDF I've ever
    downloaded.

    All the settings people are suggesting don't have any effect.

    How did YOU get rid of all those Firefox entries once and for all?


    Apparently, the control for this is in the wrong place.

    Instead of being a control for the TaskBar, it's a control for a Start Menu (which it is not).

    Google sez...

    *******

    " Go to Settings > Personalization.

    Step 2: Click Start in the left pane and then switch the option ¡V

    Show recently opened items in Jump Lists on
    Start or the taskbar from on to off.
    "

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/kMBZQDgw/recent-frequent-disableby-Settings-Personalize-Start-bottom-item-W10.gif

    Paul

    How the hell did you figure that out?

    Before https://i.postimg.cc/FH4Fftcn/Clipboard03.jpg
    After https://i.postimg.cc/NjMJkF1y/Clipboard04.jpg

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  • From Peter@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Sep 29 07:48:16 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    How do I get rid of this problem?

    Settings > Personalisation > Start

    I should acknowledge this was the correct solution to the problem set.
    (When I first saw this, I was still concentrating on Firefox settings.)

    1. The problem set https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg
    2. It's not Firefox settings https://i.postimg.cc/JzSXdS5M/Clipboard01.jpg
    3. It's not Firefox history https://i.postimg.cc/65rB6q9d/Clipboard02.jpg
    4. It's the Jump List! https://i.postimg.cc/FH4Fftcn/Clipboard03.jpg
    5. Turn that sucker off! https://i.postimg.cc/NjMJkF1y/Clipboard04.jpg

    Thanks!

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  • From Peter@21:1/5 to Nobody on Fri Sep 29 07:48:36 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
    My Windoze settings from hitting Start with right click: Settings > Personalisation > Start and that has the *Default* radio button
    chosen... with all four possibles below as *Off*... and all entries in
    the Folders side-opening pullout likewise all *Off*.

    I should acknowledge this was the correct solution to the problem set.
    (I had seen Paul's answer first - but you & Paul & Andy were on target).

    1. The problem set https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg
    2. It's not Firefox settings https://i.postimg.cc/JzSXdS5M/Clipboard01.jpg
    3. It's not Firefox history https://i.postimg.cc/65rB6q9d/Clipboard02.jpg
    4. It's the Jump List! https://i.postimg.cc/FH4Fftcn/Clipboard03.jpg
    5. Turn that sucker off! https://i.postimg.cc/NjMJkF1y/Clipboard04.jpg

    Thanks!

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  • From Peter@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri Sep 29 07:32:49 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    If you don't see this issue, you'll probably never be able to understand it >> but it seems that Paul has the same issue - so he might figure it out.


    It's a Windows 10 setting that's in the wrong place. See other post.

    I got mine to switch off, so there's no reason to be trashing
    the History on Firefox to make it stop :-)

    You are a genius because only you and I knew it was more of a Windows thing than a Firefox thing - but you figured where it was when I couldn't do it.

    Windows+I -> Personalization -> Start -> SroiiJLoSottaiFEQA = on/off
    Where SroiiJLoSottaiFEQA = "Show recently opened items in Jump Lists
    on Start or the taskbar and in File Explorer Quick Access"

    I knew it was related to Windows and that it was related to the task bar,
    but what threw me off the scent was that _some_ web browser links pinned to
    the taskbar did it but other browser links pinned to the taskbar did not.

    That's how I knew it was only tangentially related to Firefox but I
    couldn't find any setting on my own in Windows that affected it.

    1. The problem set https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg
    2. It's not Firefox settings https://i.postimg.cc/JzSXdS5M/Clipboard01.jpg
    3. It's not Firefox history https://i.postimg.cc/65rB6q9d/Clipboard02.jpg
    4. It's the Jump List! https://i.postimg.cc/FH4Fftcn/Clipboard03.jpg
    5. Turn that sucker off! https://i.postimg.cc/NjMJkF1y/Clipboard04.jpg

    You found what nobody else could.
    I don't know how you did it.

    How did you find it?

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Peter on Fri Sep 29 08:44:28 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Peter wrote:

    4. It's the Jump List! https://i.postimg.cc/FH4Fftcn/Clipboard03.jpg
    5. Turn that sucker off!

    Given that it seems to be working the same for you, as it does for me
    (i.e. only displaying a handful of entries in the 'Recent' jump list,
    what makes you think it's wrong?

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  • From Peter@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Sep 29 09:44:14 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Given that it seems to be working the same for you, as it does for me
    (i.e. only displaying a handful of entries in the 'Recent' jump list,
    what makes you think it's wrong?

    I thank you for being the first person to point out it's the "jump list",
    which I hadn't ever thought about until I tried to solve this problem.

    I don't think "it's wrong" is a characterization that fits this problem set simply because the issue is based on a setting - so my setting was on but
    my setting should have been off for what I wanted to happen in Windows.

    For other people, maybe they enjoy seeing all the files they've ever
    downloaded but personally I have no need to see those files again & again.

    As Paul stated though, the setting appears to be in the "wrong location",
    as it should be a taskbar setting since it affects taskbar pinned icons.

    When you say it's "only displaying a handful of entries", I don't think you have as many as I do - where mine displays about ten entries - but - if you delete those ten - another ten will show up - and if you delete that ten - another ten after that - and if you delete those - ten more will show up.

    Until you've exhausted every file you ever downloaded from showing up.
    And no, you can't do a "select all" or even a sweep of ten.

    You have to manually delete each entry one by one as far as I can tell.
    That's a thousand times you have to delete the files if you do it that way.

    Easier to set the setting to off.

    What makes the setting more ignoble is that some web browsers pinned to the taskbar (Firefox being one of them) show all the files you've ever
    downloaded in that list (ten at a time of course) while other web browsers pinned to the taskbar do not seem to show all the files you've ever
    downloaded. At least that is how it seemed when I was debugging earlier.

    So I had figured it was a Mozilla setup issue with Windows.
    And it still might be for all I know.

    For me, I'm perfectly happy to never see again in the taskbar a listing of
    all the thousands of files (mostly PDFs) I might have downloaded over the
    years using the Firefox web browser on Windows. I'd rather not see them.

    For you - you'd rather see them - but bear in mind that there are a lot
    more that you aren't seeing which will only show up when you delete those
    that you are seeing. How far back it goes, I don't know. Seemingly forever.

    You want to see all those thousands of files. I do not.
    You want to see them ten at a time. I do not.

    So it's not so much the setting is wrong.
    It just means the setting of "on" is right for you but wrong for me.

    Likewise, I presume my setting of "off" is right for me but wrong for you.
    It's all good as long as I know what setting controls the action seen.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Peter on Fri Sep 29 11:00:26 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Peter wrote:

    When you say it's "only displaying a handful of entries", I don't think
    you have as many as I do - where mine displays about ten entries - but -
    if you delete those ten - another ten will show up - and if you delete
    that ten - another ten after that - and if you delete those - ten more
    will show up.

    Mine shows seven, all of them web sites (such as BBC, wayback machine,
    youtube, amazon) not specific downloads, if I delete one, it disappears
    and nothing else takes its place (until I visit a site or two)

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Sep 29 14:31:48 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Peter wrote:

    I just noticed that when I rightclick on the Firefox icon in the Windows >>taskbar it shows every file I've ever downloaded over the years.

    I don't see downloads on the "jumplist" just frequent websites, and
    under a dozen rather than several thousand!

    How do I get rid of this problem?

    Settings > Personalisation > Start

    you could try turning off the option for recent options in start, jump
    lists and explorer? Then turn it back on and it might start as empty,
    no idea why it should "go mad" and store thousands though ...

    I've read through this thread.

    Are those PDFs being downloaded speculatively to get the Web page to
    load faster? When that happens, are they downloaded into a temporary
    directory?

    I am aware that in order to display a PDF in Firefox, it's download
    first to a temporary directory then displayed. Therefore I have it set
    to save PDFs. If I want one, I manually download it to avoid the
    download into the temporary directory of the ones I don't want.

    about:preferences > General > Applications > PDF > Save File

    Is there an indexing process in the temporary directory taking place
    which is the reason why these file names display in the jump list? Isn't
    there a way to tell Windows 10 not to index certain directories? I'm
    guessing that's what the underlying issue is.

    I'm not using Windows 10, just Windows 8.1.

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  • From Nobody@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 08:20:51 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 11:00:26 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
    wrote:

    Peter wrote:

    When you say it's "only displaying a handful of entries", I don't think
    you have as many as I do - where mine displays about ten entries - but -
    if you delete those ten - another ten will show up - and if you delete
    that ten - another ten after that - and if you delete those - ten more
    will show up.

    Mine shows seven, all of them web sites (such as BBC, wayback machine, >youtube, amazon) not specific downloads, if I delete one, it disappears
    and nothing else takes its place (until I visit a site or two)

    Is that possibly because of variations in Peter's and your choices
    with *Personalisation > Start > Folders*?

    As I wrote, I see just six entries under the heading *Tasks* by
    right-clicking the Ffox icon.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 19:28:13 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Am 29.09.23 um 06:53 schrieb Peter:
    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    All the settings people are suggesting don't have any effect.

    How did YOU get rid of all those Firefox entries once and for all?

    In the security and privacy section of FF. Delete history when closing FF.

    Do you see the problem on your Windows Firefox taskbar pinned icon or not?

    I do not use such crappy OSs. But this is not relevant because FF reacts
    the same for all OSs.


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  • From Peter@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Sep 29 20:59:15 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    When you say it's "only displaying a handful of entries", I don't think
    you have as many as I do - where mine displays about ten entries - but -
    if you delete those ten - another ten will show up - and if you delete
    that ten - another ten after that - and if you delete those - ten more
    will show up.

    Mine shows seven, all of them web sites (such as BBC, wayback machine, youtube, amazon) not specific downloads, if I delete one, it disappears
    and nothing else takes its place (until I visit a site or two)

    Paul's shows mostly files.
    Yours shows mostly web sites.
    Mine shows mostly PDFs.

    I think it depends on what you do (or, more accurately, did) with Firefox.
    In conjunction, of course, in how you set up Windows+I > Personalization.

    1. Visualizing the problem set https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg
    2. It's not Firefox settings https://i.postimg.cc/JzSXdS5M/Clipboard01.jpg
    3. It's not Firefox history https://i.postimg.cc/65rB6q9d/Clipboard02.jpg
    4. It's the Win10 Jump List! https://i.postimg.cc/FH4Fftcn/Clipboard03.jpg
    5. Turn that sucker off! https://i.postimg.cc/NjMJkF1y/Clipboard04.jpg
    6. Hell, turn everything off! https://i.postimg.cc/wjrJvLy7/Clipboard05.jpg

    It may matter that I have never used the Windows 10 Start Menu since
    I keep my personal menu folder pinned to the start bar that starts my apps.

    In addition, I have Windows+R commands which start frequent apps for me. Besides, it's just too much work to keep the Windows 10 Start Menu clean.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 22:03:54 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Am 29.09.23 um 22:00 schrieb Frankie:
    On 29/9/2023, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    All the settings people are suggesting don't have any effect.

    How did YOU get rid of all those Firefox entries once and for all?

    In the security and privacy section of FF. Delete history when closing FF. >>>
    Do you see the problem on your Windows Firefox taskbar pinned icon or not? >>
    I do not use such crappy OSs. But this is not relevant because FF reacts
    the same for all OSs.

    Why did you respond then when you had nothing to offer?

    Where is you contribution in this thread? Not seen anything from you so far.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 22:08:20 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Am 29.09.23 um 22:00 schrieb Frankie:
    On 29/9/2023, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    All the settings people are suggesting don't have any effect.

    How did YOU get rid of all those Firefox entries once and for all?

    In the security and privacy section of FF. Delete history when closing FF. >>>
    Do you see the problem on your Windows Firefox taskbar pinned icon or not? >>
    I do not use such crappy OSs. But this is not relevant because FF reacts
    the same for all OSs.

    Why did you respond then when you had nothing to offer?

    BTW:

    Only antisocial Trolls post over such anonymous idiot-servers:

    Injection-Info: neodome.net; mail-complaints-to="abuse@neodome.net"

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  • From Frankie@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 23:00:33 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 29/9/2023, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    All the settings people are suggesting don't have any effect.

    How did YOU get rid of all those Firefox entries once and for all?

    In the security and privacy section of FF. Delete history when closing FF. >>
    Do you see the problem on your Windows Firefox taskbar pinned icon or not?

    I do not use such crappy OSs. But this is not relevant because FF reacts
    the same for all OSs.

    Why did you respond then when you had nothing to offer?

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  • From Peter@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Sep 29 21:15:27 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Are those PDFs being downloaded speculatively to get the Web page to
    load faster? When that happens, are they downloaded into a temporary directory?

    I don't know what you mean in this context by "speculatively", but I do
    have my Firefox always set up to NEVER open anything "special" itself. https://i.postimg.cc/65swZqZr/Clipboard06.jpg

    I am aware that in order to display a PDF in Firefox, it's download
    first to a temporary directory then displayed. Therefore I have it set
    to save PDFs. If I want one, I manually download it to avoid the
    download into the temporary directory of the ones I don't want.

    about:preferences > General > Applications > PDF > Save File

    The only files Firefox can open up without asking are images & videos.
    Nothing else.

    I suspect everyone does this because it's the right thing to do.
    From a safety standpoint and from a utility standpoint it is.

    You only need to tell Firefox to open the correct app for each file type.
    For PDF files, it will be a bona fide PDF reader or writer application.

    Why deal with the limits and security implications of opening all the file types in a web browser which can't do the file type its proper justice.

    Is there an indexing process in the temporary directory taking place
    which is the reason why these file names display in the jump list? Isn't there a way to tell Windows 10 not to index certain directories? I'm
    guessing that's what the underlying issue is.

    I'm not using Windows 10, just Windows 8.1.

    I don't know how to answer this last question because I only know that I
    don't want every file I've ever downloaded showing up in that jump list.

    1. The problem set https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg
    2. It's not Firefox settings https://i.postimg.cc/JzSXdS5M/Clipboard01.jpg
    3. It's not Firefox history https://i.postimg.cc/65rB6q9d/Clipboard02.jpg
    4. It's the Jump List! https://i.postimg.cc/FH4Fftcn/Clipboard03.jpg
    5. Turn that sucker off! https://i.postimg.cc/NjMJkF1y/Clipboard04.jpg
    6. Turn everything off! https://i.postimg.cc/wjrJvLy7/Clipboard05.jpg
    7. Open images/videos only https://i.postimg.cc/65swZqZr/Clipboard06.jpg

    I'm using Windows 10.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Peter on Sat Sep 30 00:47:04 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Peter wrote:

    Paul's shows mostly files. Yours shows mostly web sites. Mine shows
    mostly PDFs.

    I'm on Win11

    I don't use the FF internal PDF viewer, or Acrobat Reader, I use
    SumatraPDF, 488 out of 651 files in my download folder are .PDFs

    90% of what this machine does is web and email, using FF and TB

    Some libreoffice, sketchup, orca slicer, vscode, gimp, jupyterlab

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Jorg Lorenz on Sat Sep 30 14:30:21 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    Am 29.09.23 um 22:00 schrieb Frankie:
    On 29/9/2023, Jorg Lorenz wrote:

    All the settings people are suggesting don't have any effect.

    How did YOU get rid of all those Firefox entries once and for all?

    In the security and privacy section of FF. Delete history when closing FF.

    Do you see the problem on your Windows Firefox taskbar pinned icon or not?

    I do not use such crappy OSs. But this is not relevant because FF reacts >>>the same for all OSs.

    Why did you respond then when you had nothing to offer?

    BTW:

    Only antisocial Trolls post over such anonymous idiot-servers:

    Injection-Info: neodome.net; mail-complaints-to="abuse@neodome.net"

    You are the one who fed the troll. The troll didn't make you feed him by posting a followup. You always have the option of restraining yourself,
    sitting on your hands and shutting the fuck up.

    Every single followup from you includes whining and complaing. When you complain about an antisocial poster, you complain about yourself. You
    can control your own lousy personality but you can't control others.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Peter on Sat Sep 30 14:24:39 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Peter <confused@nospam.net> wrote:
    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Are those PDFs being downloaded speculatively to get the Web page to
    load faster? When that happens, are they downloaded into a temporary >>directory?

    I don't know what you mean in this context by "speculatively", but I do
    have my Firefox always set up to NEVER open anything "special" itself. >https://i.postimg.cc/65swZqZr/Clipboard06.jpg

    It appears that your operating system logged an instance of having
    opened or downloaded that long list of PDFs that you hadn't opened
    manually. I'm guessing that a background process within Firefox
    downloaded certain PDFs that appeared on Web pages you viewed into a
    temporary directory on your host speculating that you might wish to view
    them later.

    A Web page includes lots of files and media that the user isn't aware
    of and doesn't view manually. Much of the Web page gets downloaded into
    a temporary directory, including the files and media, in case you end
    up wanting to view this stuff later or scroll to that part of the Web
    page. It makes it appear to the user that the Web page loaded more
    quickly because so much activity has taken place in background before the
    user views it.

    I'm guessing that the operating system notes that this is happening. It
    logs some of these as recently viewed files including files that you had
    not manually opened later because they were loaded with the Web page.

    It's my understanding of the way Firefox works is that a PDF is
    speculatively downloaded if the Action setting is Open in Firefox or
    Always Ask, but Save File prevents the speculative downloading.

    I am aware that in order to display a PDF in Firefox, it's download
    first to a temporary directory then displayed. Therefore I have it set
    to save PDFs. If I want one, I manually download it to avoid the
    download into the temporary directory of the ones I don't want.

    about:preferences >General > Applications > PDF > Save File

    The only files Firefox can open up without asking are images & videos. >Nothing else.

    I suspect everyone does this because it's the right thing to do.
    From a safety standpoint and from a utility standpoint it is.

    You only need to tell Firefox to open the correct app for each file type.
    For PDF files, it will be a bona fide PDF reader or writer application.

    Why deal with the limits and security implications of opening all the file >types in a web browser which can't do the file type its proper justice.

    I agree. That's why I use the Save File setting where appropriate. For
    any number of file types, I don't want to open the file in Firefox even
    if Firefox is calling an outside application to do so.

    Is there an indexing process in the temporary directory taking place
    which is the reason why these file names display in the jump list? Isn't >>there a way to tell Windows 10 not to index certain directories? I'm >>guessing that's what the underlying issue is.

    I'm not using Windows 10, just Windows 8.1.

    I don't know how to answer this last question because I only know that I >don't want every file I've ever downloaded showing up in that jump list.

    1. The problem set https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg
    2. It's not Firefox settings https://i.postimg.cc/JzSXdS5M/Clipboard01.jpg
    3. It's not Firefox history https://i.postimg.cc/65rB6q9d/Clipboard02.jpg
    4. It's the Jump List! https://i.postimg.cc/FH4Fftcn/Clipboard03.jpg
    5. Turn that sucker off! https://i.postimg.cc/NjMJkF1y/Clipboard04.jpg
    6. Turn everything off! https://i.postimg.cc/wjrJvLy7/Clipboard05.jpg
    7. Open images/videos only https://i.postimg.cc/65swZqZr/Clipboard06.jpg

    I'm using Windows 10.

    In Windows 8.1, if I allow file indexing, I can control which
    directories are indexed. I think there's a separate indexing process
    that creates the Recently Viewed file list and the process that pins
    recently viewed files to the start menu/taskbar.

    In Windows 10, which I don't use, there may be a compromise setting
    between turning off indexing files that you won't look at again and
    indexing such files to maintain a list of a more reasonable length.

    If there's still a Recently Viewed directory in Window 10 like 8.1, a
    long list of shortcuts, you could rename it to see if this is the basis
    for those lists of files that you see, or if it's an entirely separate
    indexing process.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sat Sep 30 16:12:37 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 9/30/2023 10:24 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Peter <confused@nospam.net> wrote:
    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Are those PDFs being downloaded speculatively to get the Web page to
    load faster? When that happens, are they downloaded into a temporary
    directory?

    I don't know what you mean in this context by "speculatively", but I do
    have my Firefox always set up to NEVER open anything "special" itself.
    https://i.postimg.cc/65swZqZr/Clipboard06.jpg

    It appears that your operating system logged an instance of having
    opened or downloaded that long list of PDFs that you hadn't opened
    manually. I'm guessing that a background process within Firefox
    downloaded certain PDFs that appeared on Web pages you viewed into a temporary directory on your host speculating that you might wish to view
    them later.

    A Web page includes lots of files and media that the user isn't aware
    of and doesn't view manually. Much of the Web page gets downloaded into
    a temporary directory, including the files and media, in case you end
    up wanting to view this stuff later or scroll to that part of the Web
    page. It makes it appear to the user that the Web page loaded more
    quickly because so much activity has taken place in background before the user views it.

    I'm guessing that the operating system notes that this is happening. It
    logs some of these as recently viewed files including files that you had
    not manually opened later because they were loaded with the Web page.

    It's my understanding of the way Firefox works is that a PDF is
    speculatively downloaded if the Action setting is Open in Firefox or
    Always Ask, but Save File prevents the speculative downloading.

    I am aware that in order to display a PDF in Firefox, it's download
    first to a temporary directory then displayed. Therefore I have it set
    to save PDFs. If I want one, I manually download it to avoid the
    download into the temporary directory of the ones I don't want.

    about:preferences >General > Applications > PDF > Save File

    The only files Firefox can open up without asking are images & videos.
    Nothing else.

    I suspect everyone does this because it's the right thing to do.
    From a safety standpoint and from a utility standpoint it is.

    You only need to tell Firefox to open the correct app for each file type.
    For PDF files, it will be a bona fide PDF reader or writer application.

    Why deal with the limits and security implications of opening all the file >> types in a web browser which can't do the file type its proper justice.

    I agree. That's why I use the Save File setting where appropriate. For
    any number of file types, I don't want to open the file in Firefox even
    if Firefox is calling an outside application to do so.

    Is there an indexing process in the temporary directory taking place
    which is the reason why these file names display in the jump list? Isn't >>> there a way to tell Windows 10 not to index certain directories? I'm
    guessing that's what the underlying issue is.

    I'm not using Windows 10, just Windows 8.1.

    I don't know how to answer this last question because I only know that I
    don't want every file I've ever downloaded showing up in that jump list.

    1. The problem set https://i.postimg.cc/9FVPvH6M/Clipboard.jpg
    2. It's not Firefox settings https://i.postimg.cc/JzSXdS5M/Clipboard01.jpg >> 3. It's not Firefox history https://i.postimg.cc/65rB6q9d/Clipboard02.jpg
    4. It's the Jump List! https://i.postimg.cc/FH4Fftcn/Clipboard03.jpg
    5. Turn that sucker off! https://i.postimg.cc/NjMJkF1y/Clipboard04.jpg
    6. Turn everything off! https://i.postimg.cc/wjrJvLy7/Clipboard05.jpg
    7. Open images/videos only https://i.postimg.cc/65swZqZr/Clipboard06.jpg

    I'm using Windows 10.

    In Windows 8.1, if I allow file indexing, I can control which
    directories are indexed. I think there's a separate indexing process
    that creates the Recently Viewed file list and the process that pins
    recently viewed files to the start menu/taskbar.

    In Windows 10, which I don't use, there may be a compromise setting
    between turning off indexing files that you won't look at again and
    indexing such files to maintain a list of a more reasonable length.

    If there's still a Recently Viewed directory in Window 10 like 8.1, a
    long list of shortcuts, you could rename it to see if this is the basis
    for those lists of files that you see, or if it's an entirely separate indexing process.


    Federated Search on Windows, is best left alone. I have a test setup
    on the other machine, 1 million files indexed by the indexer, and the
    time to produce a search result varies from five seconds to sixty seconds.

    It would take a hundred lines of posting, to explain how to tune it,
    and even when tuned, it's not a wonder-pony. It has pathological behavior,
    that interacts with how you use the machine (your searches slow down,
    if you force the thing to re-index areas with new files).

    *******

    There are third party tools for search.

    There is Voidtools Everything.exe and Mythic Software Agent Ransack (free version).

    If you use an SSD instead of a Hard Drive, that completes the set
    and gives you something useful.

    Paul

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