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  • Can windows 64 "read" 16 bit data? -run -running

    From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 24 11:13:54 2023
    Can windows 64 "read" 16 bit data? -run -running -convert

    Google Duck does not know.

    How about 8 bit?

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to Paul in Houston TX on Sun Sep 24 12:36:56 2023
    "Paul in Houston TX" <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote

    | Can windows 64 "read" 16 bit data? -run -running -convert
    |
    | Google Duck does not know.
    |
    | How about 8 bit?

    Win64 can't run 16-bit executables. Reading data
    is not limited. For example, a PNG file is 32-bit data.
    A B/W BMP file is one-bit data. Data is data. The
    context and/or file format determine how you read it.

    With executables it's different. The file format is
    different. Win64 can run a 32-bit executable because
    it uses a go-between to translate, for the sake of
    backward compatibility. If you look up PE format
    (portable executable) you'll see it's very complex.
    Different types will be different. A 32-bit EXE will be
    dealing with 32-bit pointers and the format of the
    file itself will be 32-bit.

    For example, if you have a DLL and something wants
    to use a function, it will walk 32-bit pointers in the
    file header. X points to offset Y. Y points to offset Z.
    Eventually it finds the function name and gets a pointer
    to that offset. Then it runs the function by execuuting the
    code at that offset in the DLL. A 64-bit DLL will be
    similar, but based on 64-bit values. So it's gibberish for
    32-bit software.

    I don't understand what "-run -running -convert" means
    but maybe I answered the question?

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 24 12:08:24 2023
    Newyana2 wrote:
    "Paul in Houston TX" <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote

    | Can windows 64 "read" 16 bit data? -run -running -convert
    |
    | Google Duck does not know.
    |
    | How about 8 bit?

    Win64 can't run 16-bit executables. Reading data
    is not limited. For example, a PNG file is 32-bit data.
    A B/W BMP file is one-bit data. Data is data. The
    context and/or file format determine how you read it.

    With executables it's different. The file format is
    different. Win64 can run a 32-bit executable because
    it uses a go-between to translate, for the sake of
    backward compatibility. If you look up PE format
    (portable executable) you'll see it's very complex.
    Different types will be different. A 32-bit EXE will be
    dealing with 32-bit pointers and the format of the
    file itself will be 32-bit.

    For example, if you have a DLL and something wants
    to use a function, it will walk 32-bit pointers in the
    file header. X points to offset Y. Y points to offset Z.
    Eventually it finds the function name and gets a pointer
    to that offset. Then it runs the function by execuuting the
    code at that offset in the DLL. A 64-bit DLL will be
    similar, but based on 64-bit values. So it's gibberish for
    32-bit software.

    I don't understand what "-run -running -convert" means
    but maybe I answered the question?

    Thank you, Newyana.
    Sorry for the confusion. I copy / pasted my Google question and
    included the boolean minuses so that Google would not return anything
    related to run, running, and convert. It still works even though Google
    says that boolean term no longer works. It still works with Ducky.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Paul in Houston TX on Sun Sep 24 18:34:11 2023
    Paul in Houston TX wrote:

    I copy / pasted my Google question and
    included the boolean minuses so that Google would not return anything
    related to run, running, and convert.  It still works even though Google says that boolean term no longer works.  It still works with Ducky.

    minus still works (and I think they say so) but plus no longer works, it returns results without the required term.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/09/2023 17:13, Paul in Houston TX
    wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:uepn84$1dtmh$1@dont-email.me">Can
    windows 64 "read" 16 bit data? -run -running -convert <br>
    <br>
    Google Duck does not know. <br>
    <br>
    How about 8 bit? <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Always use Microsoft Bing for searching because you can use AI these
    days:<br>
    <br>
    [Microsoft AI says:]<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite">
    <div class="content" tabindex="0" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
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    <p><a href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/application-management/x64-windows-not-support-16-bit-programs"
    class="tooltip-target"
    data-citationid="67fa6e59-d317-e9ab-79f7-db8bbd23bbf9-3-group"
    target="_blank">According to Microsoft, <strong>64-bit
    versions of Windows do not support 16-bit programs,
    16-bit processes, or 16-bit components</strong> </a><a href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/application-management/x64-windows-not-support-16-bit-programs"
    class="ac-anchor sup-target" target="_blank"
    data-citationid="67fa6e59-d317-e9ab-79f7-db8bbd23bbf9-3"
    aria-label="1: 64-bit versions of Windows do not support
    16-bit programs, 16-bit processes, or 16-bit components"><sup>1</sup></a>.
    <a href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/application-management/x64-windows-not-support-16-bit-programs"
    class="tooltip-target"
    data-citationid="67fa6e59-d317-e9ab-79f7-db8bbd23bbf9-5-group"
    target="_blank">However, some 16-bit installers may be
    recognized by 64-bit versions of Windows and
    automatically converted to 32-bit installers </a><a href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/application-management/x64-windows-not-support-16-bit-programs"
    class="ac-anchor sup-target" target="_blank"
    data-citationid="67fa6e59-d317-e9ab-79f7-db8bbd23bbf9-5"
    aria-label="1: According to Microsoft, 64-bit versions
    of Windows do not support 16-bit programs, 16-bit
    processes, or 16-bit components 1"><sup>1</sup></a>.</p>
    <p><a href="https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/modern-work-app-consult-blog/running-16-bit-applications-on-windows-10-64-bit/ba-p/1671418"
    class="tooltip-target"
    data-citationid="67fa6e59-d317-e9ab-79f7-db8bbd23bbf9-8-group"
    target="_blank">If you need to run a 16-bit application
    on a 64-bit version of Windows, you can try using a
    third-party open-source framework called otya128 –
    winevdm </a><a href="https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/modern-work-app-consult-blog/running-16-bit-applications-on-windows-10-64-bit/ba-p/1671418"
    class="ac-anchor sup-target" target="_blank"
    data-citationid="67fa6e59-d317-e9ab-79f7-db8bbd23bbf9-8"
    aria-label="2: "><sup>2</sup></a>. This framework can be
    used to run a 16-bit application on Windows 10 64-bit. <a href="https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/modern-work-app-consult-blog/running-16-bit-applications-on-windows-10-64-bit/ba-p/1671418"
    class="tooltip-target"
    data-citationid="67fa6e59-d317-e9ab-79f7-db8bbd23bbf9-10-group"
    target="_blank">However, Microsoft recommends using
    virtualization or 32-bit machines to run 16-bit
    applications </a><a href="https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/modern-work-app-consult-blog/running-16-bit-applications-on-windows-10-64-bit/ba-p/1671418"
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    on a 64-bit version of Windows, you can try using a
    third-party open-source framework called otya128 –
    winevdm 2"><sup>2</sup></a>.</p>
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun Sep 24 18:47:55 2023
    On 9/24/2023 1:34 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
    Paul in Houston TX wrote:

    I copy / pasted my Google question and included the boolean minuses so that Google would not return anything related to run, running, and convert.  It still works even though Google says that boolean term no longer works.  It still works with Ducky.

    minus still works (and I think they say so) but plus no longer works, it returns results without the required term.


    Does using double quotes

    smurf "father"

    still work, to make "father" a mandatory term ?

    I mean, the search sucks so bad sometimes, it's hard
    to tell whether it's paying attention at all.

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Paul in Houston TX on Sun Sep 24 19:10:11 2023
    On 9/24/2023 1:08 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
    Newyana2 wrote:
    "Paul in Houston TX" <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote

    | Can windows 64 "read" 16 bit data? -run -running -convert
    |
    | Google Duck does not know.
    |
    | How about 8 bit?

        Win64 can't run 16-bit executables. Reading data
    is not limited. For example, a PNG file is 32-bit data.
    A B/W BMP file is one-bit data. Data is data. The
    context and/or file format determine how you read it.

       With executables it's different. The file format is
    different. Win64 can run a 32-bit executable because
    it uses a go-between to translate, for the sake of
    backward compatibility. If you look up PE format
    (portable executable) you'll see it's very complex.
    Different types will be different. A 32-bit EXE will be
    dealing with 32-bit pointers and the format of the
    file itself will be 32-bit.

       For example, if you have a DLL and something wants
    to use a function, it will walk 32-bit pointers in the
    file header. X points to offset Y. Y points to offset Z.
    Eventually it finds the function name and gets a pointer
    to that offset. Then it runs the function by execuuting the
    code at that offset in the DLL. A 64-bit DLL will be
    similar, but based on 64-bit values. So it's gibberish for
    32-bit software.

       I don't understand what "-run -running -convert" means
    but maybe I answered the question?

    Thank you, Newyana.
    Sorry for the confusion.  I copy / pasted my Google question and included the boolean minuses so that Google would not return anything related to run, running, and convert.  It still works even though Google says that boolean term no longer works. 
    It still works with Ducky.

    SysWOW (Windows On Windows), handles the multilib aspect
    of Windows.

    The OS might pretend to be native 64-bit and run on 64-bit hardware.

    However, a user might want to run a 32-bit executable. There might
    be some DLLs suitable for this, stored somewhere. For example, you
    might catch yourself installing Visual Studio files, both an x86
    file and an x64 file, to add "runtime support" for some software
    you got/bought. Microsoft offers two files for download, and you
    install both if expecting 32 bit and 64 bit applications to use
    the runtimes.

    What's missing on Windows 11 (a 64-bit only OS), is there is a
    WOW for 32 bit but no WOW for 16 bit programs. It is technically
    possible to do it, but it's not practical for the 7000 developers
    to do it.

    On Win10 (and Win8, Win7, Vista)

    x64 OS = run 64bit and 32bit programs

    x86 OS = run 32bit and 16bit programs

    The compatibility analysis, and telemetry, helps the staff
    keep all that crap tipped upright.

    Reading data from storage, is in units of bytes.

    Memory DIMMs have byte select strobes, so
    it is technically possible to do "fractional writes"
    and update 3 bytes in an 8 byte row on the DIMM.

    But typically, a CPU transfers a lot of cache lines,
    and for those, all eight chip selects are engaged on
    each transfer.

    Via write combining, the CPU interface "near the DIMM",
    can combine a 3 byte write and a 1 byte write and make
    a 4 byte write of it. Which still does not materially
    change how it works.

    We no longer really know how this stuff works, as the
    data sheets "no longer require this level of detail".
    Trust us. Or something. Think of what fun it must be
    for a university professor to teach this stuff. And wait until
    (soon) they remove all the legacy support and start over.
    They've been threatening to do that. Maybe some day,
    you might not need to know what "A20" is all about :-)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A20_line

    Paul

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Paul on Sun Sep 24 17:12:17 2023
    On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 19:10:11 -0400, Paul wrote:
    On Win10 (and Win8, Win7, Vista)

    x64 OS = run 64bit and 32bit programs

    x86 OS = run 32bit and 16bit programs

    The compatibility analysis, and telemetry, helps the staff
    keep all that crap tipped upright.


    _Is_ there 32-bit Windows 10? I thought a 64-bit CPU was a
    requirement for Win 10. Butaccording to <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-system- requirements-6d4e9a79-66bf-7950-467c-795cf0386715> I'm wrong, and 32-
    bit Win 10 will run with 1 GB RAM and 16GB disk.

    Well, FSVO "run"; I suspect "crawl" would be a better choice of
    words.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Paul on Sun Sep 24 17:08:56 2023
    On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 18:47:55 -0400, Paul wrote:
    Does using double quotes

    smurf "father"

    still work, to make "father" a mandatory term ?

    As far as I know, quotes never meant "mandatory". Quotes were just a
    way of using ab phrase search instead of only single words. But I'll
    take correction on that if I'm wrong.

    In any case, the + sign, which used to indicate a mandatory term, no
    longer does. Quite often, when I use it, and then manually search in
    the first few Google results for the mandatory term, it's not there.
    That's been true for at least a couple of years. I don't know whether
    + is completely meaningless now, or it just means something
    difference from "mandatory". Knowing Google, I suspect the latter.

    --
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  • From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to Paul in Houston TX on Sun Sep 24 19:53:35 2023
    Paul in Houston TX wrote:
    Can windows 64 "read" 16 bit data? -run -running -convert

    Google Duck does not know.

    How about 8 bit?

    Thanks, Everyone.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Sep 25 07:27:12 2023
    Paul wrote:

    On Win10 (and Win8, Win7, Vista)

    x64 OS = run 64bit and 32bit programs
    x86 OS = run 32bit and 16bit programs

    To run 16bit code under a 64bit OS you can use emulation such as DOSbox

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Mon Sep 25 07:23:59 2023
    Stan Brown wrote:

    I don't know whether + is completely meaningless now, or it just means something difference from "mandatory".

    It's quite annoying, it shows the +word in struckout font, so it knows
    you meant it to be mandatory, but it's admitting it doesn't exist yet
    it's included the result anyway, e.g.

    <https://google.com/search?q=%2Bspecial+ugigiugi>

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Mon Sep 25 08:07:17 2023
    "Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote

    |
    | As far as I know, quotes never meant "mandatory". Quotes were just a
    | way of using ab phrase search instead of only single words. But I'll
    | take correction on that if I'm wrong.
    |
    With DDG, if you look for apple orange snicketty it may
    come back saying, "Not many results contain snicketty.
    Is that really important?" If you then tell DDG that yes, you
    want to search for what you said you wanted to search
    for, it will put snicketty in quotes anr run again.

    But I no longer see any effect from a minus sign. Which is
    unfortunate. It's so often useful.

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  • From Roger Mills@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 25 17:34:11 2023
    On 24/09/2023 17:36, Newyana2 wrote:
    "Paul in Houston TX" <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote

    | Can windows 64 "read" 16 bit data? -run -running -convert
    |
    | Google Duck does not know.
    |
    | How about 8 bit?

    Win64 can't run 16-bit executables. Reading data
    is not limited. For example, a PNG file is 32-bit data.
    A B/W BMP file is one-bit data. Data is data. The
    context and/or file format determine how you read it.


    It's worth noting that a lot of old programs have 16-bit installers even
    though the programs themselves are 32-bit - so would run on a 64-bit
    system but you can't install them by conventional means.

    You can sometimes get round that by copying the .exe and .dll files from
    a working 32-bit system, and then patching the registry entries.
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger

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  • From MikeS@21:1/5 to Roger Mills on Mon Sep 25 21:33:15 2023
    On 25/09/2023 17:34, Roger Mills wrote:
    On 24/09/2023 17:36, Newyana2 wrote:
    "Paul in Houston TX" <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote

    | Can windows 64 "read" 16 bit data? -run -running -convert
    |
    | Google Duck does not know.
    |
    | How about 8 bit?

        Win64 can't run 16-bit executables. Reading data
    is not limited. For example, a PNG file is 32-bit data.
    A B/W BMP file is one-bit data. Data is data. The
    context and/or file format determine how you read it.


    It's worth noting that a lot of old programs have 16-bit installers even though the programs themselves are 32-bit - so would run on a 64-bit
    system but you can't install them by conventional means.

    You can sometimes get round that by copying the .exe and .dll files from
    a working 32-bit system, and then patching the registry entries.

    If anyone reading this thread is interested in running 16 bit programs
    on a modern PC search for Otvdm which uses Wine. It lets me run a couple
    of ancient favourites (I think from Win 3.1 days) seamlessly on 64 bit
    Windows 11.

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to MikeS on Mon Sep 25 17:59:20 2023
    MikeS wrote:
    On 25/09/2023 17:34, Roger Mills wrote:
    On 24/09/2023 17:36, Newyana2 wrote:
    "Paul in Houston TX" <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote

    | Can windows 64 "read" 16 bit data? -run -running -convert
    |
    | Google Duck does not know.
    |
    | How about 8 bit?

        Win64 can't run 16-bit executables. Reading data
    is not limited. For example, a PNG file is 32-bit data.
    A B/W BMP file is one-bit data. Data is data. The
    context and/or file format determine how you read it.


    It's worth noting that a lot of old programs have 16-bit installers
    even though the programs themselves are 32-bit - so would run on a
    64-bit system but you can't install them by conventional means.

    You can sometimes get round that by copying the .exe and .dll files
    from a working 32-bit system, and then patching the registry entries.

    If anyone reading this thread is interested in running 16 bit programs
    on a modern PC search for Otvdm which uses Wine. It lets me run a couple
    of ancient favourites (I think from Win 3.1 days) seamlessly on 64 bit Windows 11.

    How interesting! Thank you.
    I will check it out and let the group know if it works.

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  • From MikeS@21:1/5 to Paul in Houston TX on Tue Sep 26 10:22:53 2023
    On 25/09/2023 23:59, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
    MikeS wrote:
    On 25/09/2023 17:34, Roger Mills wrote:
    On 24/09/2023 17:36, Newyana2 wrote:
    "Paul in Houston TX" <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote

    | Can windows 64 "read" 16 bit data? -run -running -convert
    |
    | Google Duck does not know.
    |
    | How about 8 bit?

        Win64 can't run 16-bit executables. Reading data
    is not limited. For example, a PNG file is 32-bit data.
    A B/W BMP file is one-bit data. Data is data. The
    context and/or file format determine how you read it.


    It's worth noting that a lot of old programs have 16-bit installers
    even though the programs themselves are 32-bit - so would run on a
    64-bit system but you can't install them by conventional means.

    You can sometimes get round that by copying the .exe and .dll files
    from a working 32-bit system, and then patching the registry entries.

    If anyone reading this thread is interested in running 16 bit programs
    on a modern PC search for Otvdm which uses Wine. It lets me run a
    couple of ancient favourites (I think from Win 3.1 days) seamlessly on
    64 bit Windows 11.

    How interesting!  Thank you.
    I will check it out and let the group know if it works.

    It does:
    https://ibb.co/51PcsWc

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