If anyone knows where I can replace the old mailprog exe name by a newerone I would be glad to try out.
if anyone knows from where I can load an older version of this filesuitable for WIN 8.1 I would be glad to test it
if anyone has an idea how to pass old Thunderbird data to ThunderbirdPortable (ok, no Windows problem, I know) then I would be happy to test it
For an old workstation running under WIN 8.1 we have a MS Wireless Comfort Keyboard 2000.for years for a couple of mail addresses.
This keyboard has built-in buttons for fast app access, f.e. one button starting the standard Windows mail program.
Times ago the mail program on this PC was changed from Microsoft Mail to Thunderbird, and obviously the standard mail program was changed to Thunderbird by its setup program because the keyboatd now accessed Thunderbird just as expected. This worked
Due to a problem with the actual Thunderbird update where the installation run into the problem that the mail password was no longer stored and so mail access to the mailboxes managed by this PC was no longer possible.keyboard hit still runs the old damaged version instead of the new Thunderbird Portable.
Since I hope to be able to repair this problem and reuse some years old mails I installed for the meantime Thunderbird Portable on the same system which works fine except that it does not, of course, register itself as standard mail program, and so a
But I want to change the called mail program from the old version into Thunderbird Portable.driver.
So I have the choice of two variants both running into problems:
First, changing the standard mail program in Windows:
Internet search for standard mail program registration didn't show a registry key which defines the standard mail program - there are a lot of keys referring to "mailto" entries, but I found none which seems to change the key read out by the keyboard
is still available from Microsoft but calling it does only expand the file, start the installation and ends up in a message box that it couldn't can install the software probably due to missing system requirements. Whatever these requirements might be.If anyone knows where I can replace the old mailprog exe name by a newer one I would be glad to try out.
Second, editing the keyboard data:
On the orther hand Microsoft seems to have a program to edit the keyboard functions, the name was something like "Microsoft Mouse and Keyboard", the packed download file named MouseKeyboardCenter_64bit_DEU_14.41.exe (for German language). This software
if anyone knows from where I can load an older version of this file suitable for WIN 8.1 I would be glad to test it
A third way (which is a Thunderbird question rather than a Windows one) could be to pass the old mail data folders to the newer portable application, but I am not sure if this would work.
if anyone has an idea how to pass old Thunderbird data to Thunderbird Portable (ok, no Windows problem, I know) then I would be happy to test it
For an old workstation running under WIN 8.1 we have a MS Wireless Comfort Keyboard 2000.
This keyboard has built-in buttons for fast app access, f.e. one button starting the standard Windows mail program.
Times ago the mail program on this PC was changed from Microsoft Mail to Thunderbird, and obviously the standard mail program was changed to Thunderbird by its setup program because the keyboatd now accessed Thunderbird just as expected. This worked for years for a couple of mail addresses.
Due to a problem with the actual Thunderbird update where the installation run into the problem that the mail password was no longer stored and so mail access to the mailboxes managed by this PC was no longer possible.
Since I hope to be able to repair this problem and reuse some years old
mails I installed for the meantime Thunderbird Portable on the same system which works fine except that it does not, of course, register itself as standard mail program, and so a keyboard hit still runs the old damaged version instead of the new Thunderbird Portable.
But I want to change the called mail program from the old version into Thunderbird Portable.
So I have the choice of two variants both running into problems:
First, changing the standard mail program in Windows:
Internet search for standard mail program registration didn't show a
registry key which defines the standard mail program - there are a lot of keys referring to "mailto" entries, but I found none which seems to change the key read out by the keyboard driver.
If anyone knows where I can replace the old mailprog exe name by a newerone I would be glad to try out.
Second, editing the keyboard data:
On the orther hand Microsoft seems to have a program to edit the keyboard functions, the name was something like "Microsoft Mouse and Keyboard", the packed download file named MouseKeyboardCenter_64bit_DEU_14.41.exe (for German language). This software is still available from Microsoft but
calling it does only expand the file, start the installation and ends up in
a message box that it couldn't can install the software probably due to missing system requirements. Whatever these requirements might be. It looks like it is running for WIN 10 or WIN 11 only and no longer for WIN 8.1.
if anyone knows from where I can load an older version of this filesuitable for WIN 8.1 I would be glad to test it
A third way (which is a Thunderbird question rather than a Windows one)
could be to pass the old mail data folders to the newer portable
application, but I am not sure if this would work.
if anyone has an idea how to pass old Thunderbird data to ThunderbirdPortable (ok, no Windows problem, I know) then I would be happy to test it
Wendelin Uez <wuez@online.de> wrote:[]
For an old workstation running under WIN 8.1 we have a MS Wireless Comfort >> Keyboard 2000.
This keyboard has built-in buttons for fast app access, f.e. one button
starting the standard Windows mail program.
Second, editing the keyboard data:Instead of trying to get the original keyboard software to work, or even >install, perhaps you should look at 3rd-party macro software, like >AutoHotkeys or AutoIt. You can assign functions or scripts to key
On the orther hand Microsoft seems to have a program to edit the keyboard
functions, the name was something like "Microsoft Mouse and Keyboard", the []
combos. Also lets you assign macros to mouse combos.
https://www.autohotkey.com/[]
https://www.autoitscript.com/
In message <1oi9bh41mjkir.dlg@v.nguard.lh> at Thu, 21 Sep 2023 16:50:53, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> writes
Wendelin Uez <wuez@online.de> wrote:[]
For an old workstation running under WIN 8.1 we have a MS Wireless Comfort >>> Keyboard 2000.
This keyboard has built-in buttons for fast app access, f.e. one button
starting the standard Windows mail program.
[]Second, editing the keyboard data:
On the orther hand Microsoft seems to have a program to edit the keyboard >>> functions, the name was something like "Microsoft Mouse and Keyboard", the
Instead of trying to get the original keyboard software to work, or even >>install, perhaps you should look at 3rd-party macro software, like >>AutoHotkeys or AutoIt. You can assign functions or scripts to key
combos. Also lets you assign macros to mouse combos.
Do those 3rd-party utilities get the special codes (?) generated by the non-standard buttons, or are you just suggesting the OP ignores the non-standard buttons and uses combinations of standard keys (in which
case he could use any keyboard)?
[]
https://www.autohotkey.com/
https://www.autoitscript.com/
There is no direct hardware link from keyboard to its mfr provided macro software. The keyboard still has to send scan codes for its own
software to recognize when the keys got hit. The scancode is the event telling software, even the OS, that a key got pressed, and which key got pressed.
"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:[]
[]Do those 3rd-party utilities get the special codes (?) generated by the
non-standard buttons, or are you just suggesting the OP ignores the
non-standard buttons and uses combinations of standard keys (in which
case he could use any keyboard)?
There is no direct hardware link from keyboard to its mfr provided macro >software. The keyboard still has to send scan codes for its own
software to recognize when the keys got hit. The scancode is the event >telling software, even the OS, that a key got pressed, and which key got >pressed.
Some scan codes are pre-defined in the Windows registry. That's why
with programmable keyboards you don't need software for mail, web
browser, volume up/down/mute, play forward/reverse/pause.
The OP wants to change the mail mapping. On a media keyboard, the Mail[]
Since the Mail button on a media keyboard sends the standard scan code >(VK_Launch_Mail, key 180, hex code 0xb4), he should just change the
default mail handler in Windows. However, he wants the portable version
of Thunderbird to be the mail handler yet the portable version is
portable because it does NOT add/delete/change registry entries. If a >portable program modified the registry, it doesn't fit the definition of >being portable. I figure he will need a key remapper (Autohotkey,
AutoIt, Smartkeys, etc) to point the key event to run the .exe wherever
he is loading portable Tbird.
... but he might need to make the "default mail handler" something that
calls the portable version (and, obviously, keep the portable version
always in the same place).
"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:[]
... but he might need to make the "default mail handler" something that
calls the portable version (and, obviously, keep the portable version
always in the same place).
What I can see of Windows 10 Default Apps is you get to select from a
list of *registered* handlers. Registration is a program claiming it is
You, er, the OP could create a shortcut that runs a program, like thunderbird.exe (without or without arguments depending how you want to
start Tbird), to load up Thunderbird Portable.
You, er, the OP could create a shortcut that runs a program, like
thunderbird.exe (without or without arguments depending how you want to
start Tbird), to load up Thunderbird Portable.
That's exactly that what I would like to do, but what should be the name of the link?
You, er, the OP could create a shortcut that runs a program, like
thunderbird.exe (without or without arguments depending how you want to
start Tbird), to load up Thunderbird Portable.
That's exactly that what I would like to do, but what should be the name of the link?
You, er, the OP could create a shortcut that runs a program, like
thunderbird.exe (without or without arguments depending how you want to
start Tbird), to load up Thunderbird Portable.
That's exactly that what I would like to do, but what should be the name
of the link?
You, er, the OP could create a shortcut that runs a program, like
thunderbird.exe (without or without arguments depending how you want to
start Tbird), to load up Thunderbird Portable.
That's exactly that what I would like to do, but what should be the name
of the link?
Sorry, I made a mistake. Of course I know how to create a link on the
desktop to start any program with any wanted parameters.
What I really want to do is to change the value for the 'mailto' entries. I can not change keyboard's behaviour, as far as I know because the keyboard only sends a special key and not the mail command itself.
The special ke is transformed into a command like "C:\Programs\hunderbird.exe", and all what I want to do is to replace this
by something like "D:\ThunderbirdPortable.exe" or even anything else like "C:\Pograms\myMail.exe".
I suppose this transforming is a multi step procedure - the key code sent from keyboard goes at least to a "mailto" registry entry which holds the exe name, or it holds another registry key which holds the exe name. All what I should need to do is to find the propper place of it and there to change
the exe name into the new mail program name. But the difficulty is to find the right entry/entries.
Thank you for your detailed informations.
Which kind of data does the MS Wireless Keyboard send when mail button is pressed - some standard code like an ASCII code like 65 for 'A' , or does
the keyboard driver fire a special Windows message not represented by a key code?
For the first case it would be easy for me to write a small application
which runs Thunderbird Portable if the mail key was pressed down, in second case I would have to know the message ID.
Sorry for this question, if I had acess to the keyboard I could look myself, but it's tied to an external system where I have limited access.
keyboard are handled with remapping in the registry. Many multimedia >keyboards do not have separate buttons for Mail, Play/Pause, etc.[]
Instead they repurpose the F-keys: when pressed normally, the F-key scan
code is sent, but when combined with an Fn key, as in Fn+<fkey>, then
I*ve now written a small VB6 exe which reports the ASCII code for keyboard input.
Only the first two keys, HIME and MAIL, seem to send an ASCII code, the other's don't.
HOME sends 172, MAIL 180. F1...F12 send other readable codes.
ASCII code 180 alone cannot indicate a call, there must be more
information. But where?
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