Anyone doing this? I got the free Win11 update so
that I can test my software. I've always used BootIt
for easy multibooting, but I'm not really familiar with
BCD. With XP I just had to make sure boot.ini was
pointing to the right partition and BootIt would figure
out the rest.
At this point I got Win11 booting OK by taking out BootIt,
but it doesn't seem to see the Win10 disk image that
I put back (next to the Win11 partition) after the update.
"Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
| I may have had to use this at some point. It seemed to work
| better in the past. The boot menu now, needs the occasional
| fixup.
|
| bcdboot c:\Windows
|
| bcdboot e:\Windows
|
Thanks. I don't understand where you get those drive letters.
My only experience with BCDEdit so far has been a bootit
version that give me a UI. It shows Win11, but the location
is given as the partition I named "Win11". What I have is
System, the small second partition, invisible Win10, then
Win11. Bootit's tool allows me to add to the boot listing but
it doesn't seem to offer and option to add an OS and the
entries it does allow are mostly code words that I haven't
figured out.
So how did you arrive at c and e for your bootable partitions?
Anyone doing this? I got the free Win11 update so
that I can test my software. I've always used BootIt
for easy multibooting, but I'm not really familiar with
BCD. With XP I just had to make sure boot.ini was
pointing to the right partition and BootIt would figure
out the rest.
At this point I got Win11 booting OK by taking out BootIt,
but it doesn't seem to see the Win10 disk image that
I put back (next to the Win11 partition) after the update.
"wasbit" <wasbit@nowhere.invalid> wrote
| Windows 8.1 on an NVMe M.2 drive & Windows 10 & Windows 11 on another,
| partitioned, NVMe M.2 drive.
| Boot is controlled by EasyBCD
| - https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
|
Thanks. I just downloaded that. Hopefully it will work. So
much more complicated than boot.ini. Apparently with its
own curly bracket language. And the hardware...
NVMe and M.2 are the same thing? I seem to have an
M.2 card but wasn't clear what it does. And I know
the drive is NVMe. I thought the M.2
was a kind of connector component. So M.2 is the actual
connection and NVMe connects to that? My Asus manual
shows how to replace the M.2 card and how to replace
the SATA SSD. But it didn't tell me what the M.2 card was!
In reality I have the M.2 and no SATA
SSD. There's a spot for SATA, but it requires a custom FFC
adapter cable that's SATA on one end and a tiny 10-pin
connector on the other. It seems Asus doesn't want me
adding a second drive. I've been doing backups by
connecting an SATA-USB gadget with an SATA SSD
plugged into it.
"wasbit" <wasbit@nowhere.invalid> wrote
| Windows 8.1 on an NVMe M.2 drive & Windows 10 & Windows 11 on another,
| partitioned, NVMe M.2 drive.
| Boot is controlled by EasyBCD
| - https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
|
Thanks. I just downloaded that. Hopefully it will work. So
much more complicated than boot.ini. Apparently with its
own curly bracket language. And the hardware...
NVMe and M.2 are the same thing? I seem to have an
M.2 card but wasn't clear what it does. And I know
the drive is NVMe. I thought the M.2
was a kind of connector component. So M.2 is the actual
connection and NVMe connects to that? My Asus manual
shows how to replace the M.2 card and how to replace
the SATA SSD. But it didn't tell me what the M.2 card was!
In reality I have the M.2 and no SATA
SSD. There's a spot for SATA, but it requires a custom FFC
adapter cable that's SATA on one end and a tiny 10-pin
connector on the other. It seems Asus doesn't want me
adding a second drive. I've been doing backups by
connecting an SATA-USB gadget with an SATA SSD
plugged into it.
On 9/2/2023 10:36 AM, Newyana2 wrote:
So I have an M.2 SSD. Goodness knows where they put
the RAM. My expertise pretty much stops at those cutting
edge SATA cables coming off a PC motherboard. It seems
only yesterday that I was replacing IDE and feeling like I
was stepping into the future.
It looks like I could buy an adapter cable to add a normal
SSD to my Asus K712E. I'd like to ask your opinion on that.
Would the power supply be able to handle it? (I don't care
about battery time. I usually plug it in.) Or is the SATA
SSD "bay" just left over when they switched to NVMe?
I came with an empty tray for a 2.5" SSD and with no cable,
but it looks like I could buy a cable:
https://www.amazon.com/Deal4GO-10-pin-04022-00060100-Replacement-X515DA/dp/B09R4TB7WL
(forgot the approximate picture)
So I have an M.2 SSD. Goodness knows where they put
the RAM. My expertise pretty much stops at those cutting
edge SATA cables coming off a PC motherboard. It seems
only yesterday that I was replacing IDE and feeling like I
was stepping into the future.
It looks like I could buy an adapter cable to add a normal
SSD to my Asus K712E. I'd like to ask your opinion on that.
Would the power supply be able to handle it? (I don't care
about battery time. I usually plug it in.) Or is the SATA
SSD "bay" just left over when they switched to NVMe?
I came with an empty tray for a 2.5" SSD and with no cable,
but it looks like I could buy a cable:
https://www.amazon.com/Deal4GO-10-pin-04022-00060100-Replacement-X515DA/dp/B09R4TB7WL
"wasbit" <wasbit@nowhere.invalid> wrote
| Boot is controlled by EasyBCD
| - https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
|
I got EasyBCD. Piece of cake. Yet MS only offers
a cryptic, tedious command line. And their boot
screen is so ugly, it looks like a DOS error screen.
I might re-install BootIt now just so that I can
have a nice boot screen. (It's also handy for disk
image backups.)
On 9/2/2023 12:31 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
"wasbit" <wasbit@nowhere.invalid> wrote
| Boot is controlled by EasyBCD
| - https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
|
I got EasyBCD. Piece of cake. Yet MS only offers
a cryptic, tedious command line. And their boot
screen is so ugly, it looks like a DOS error screen.
I might re-install BootIt now just so that I can
have a nice boot screen. (It's also handy for disk
image backups.)
You have choices.
A screen with tiles to click for an OS.
A screen with black background and text on it (like from WinXP days).
Those are your choices.
Your bcdedit text output, might be able to tell
us what you can see on the screen right now.
"Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
| https://i.postimg.cc/QthZN0CH/guess-as-to-assembly.gif
|
Thanks. So it shouldn't be a problem to hook up the SSD.
The picture you found looks about right. The technician is working
on the NVMe/M.2 drive. To the right -- all the open
green space -- seems to be optional RAM expansion. That's
what the manual shows. But the basic RAM seems to be elsewhere.
The tray is as you indicated. The connector you sqquared
red is the power connector to the battery. The 10-pin SATA
connector is just below the screwdriver, to the right. There
are two small white things. The one on the left has wires
going into it. The one on the right is the SATA connector.
Mine is different in one major respect, though. Bottom right
is completely filled, I assume it's all battery. It looks like they've
taken out the battery and power connector cable.
"Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
| So if that connector and cable are a "new standard", is the
| cable always the same length ? Maybe that is the meaning of
| an "A" versus "B" version, instead of pinout, it's just cable length.
|
I don't know. I didn't see anything about A vs B. I found
one that says it works with several Asus versions, though
it doesn't mention the 712. Only the 4** and 5**. That was
the only one mentioning Asus.
I got everything working and then re-installed BootIt.
I can't seem to get that working. It should set the relevant
partition active and then load winload.efi, but it doesn't
seem to work that way. With the Win10 menu it works to
load the Windows boot manager with the path set to
EFI...bootmgfw.efi. Nothing else works. Yet I'm speccing in
BootIt boot manager which partition and EFI file it should
manage. BootIt seems to be unable to get out of the SYSTEM
partition. Not a big deal, but I don't get what the problem
might be. It's a special version of BootIt for UEFI.
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote
| EasyBCD should work since it can overcome the expected dual boot
| sequence that Windows prefers - install the new o/s after an earlier
| released os(to a different partition, drive)
|
I got it working. I just didn't know how to get the
2nd OS partition recognized. Which seems odd. In older
Windows versions, the Windows booter would take
over and offer to boot any supported Windows version
on disk.
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