On 26/08/2023 19:29, sticks wrote:
Working on a win 7 system for someone with a Pentium P6100 processorThe official System requirements for installing Windows 10 is here:
and am wondering if anyone has this working on a windows 10 system.
Several things with this laptop I'm trying to fix, but would
eventually like to upgrade it to windows 10 if it can run it.
Was just going to image it and go ahead and try doing the 10 upgrade,
but not having luck getting Macrium to finish an image. Doing a
thorough chkdsk now, and see if that find errors.
Anyone running windows 10 with a Pentium P6100?
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-10-specifications#primaryR2>
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Working on a win 7 system for someone with a Pentium P6100 processor and am wondering if anyone has this working on a windows 10 system. Several things with this laptop I'm trying to fix, but would eventually like to upgrade it to windows 10 if itcan run it.
Was just going to image it and go ahead and try doing the 10 upgrade, but not having luck getting Macrium to finish an image. Doing a thorough chkdsk now, and see if that find errors.
Anyone running windows 10 with a Pentium P6100?
Working on a win 7 system for someone with a Pentium P6100 processor
and am wondering if anyone has this working on a windows 10 system.
Several things with this laptop I'm trying to fix, but would
eventually like to upgrade it to windows 10 if it can run it.
Was just going to image it and go ahead and try doing the 10 upgrade,
but not having luck getting Macrium to finish an image. Doing a
thorough chkdsk now, and see if that find errors.
Anyone running windows 10 with a Pentium P6100?
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
Working on a win 7 system for someone with a Pentium P6100 processor
and am wondering if anyone has this working on a windows 10 system.
Several things with this laptop I'm trying to fix, but would
eventually like to upgrade it to windows 10 if it can run it.
Was just going to image it and go ahead and try doing the 10 upgrade,
but not having luck getting Macrium to finish an image. Doing a
thorough chkdsk now, and see if that find errors.
Anyone running windows 10 with a Pentium P6100?
Nope, don't have an old box with the P6100. That CPU was released back
in 2010. Benchmarks are very poor compared to later CPUs.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/756/IntelR-PentiumR-CPU--------P6100----200GHz
I'm surpised the user isn't already complaining about having a slow
system. With Win10, it won't be faster, and probably even slower. Also likely with such an old CPU that the RAM is undersized. PCIe gen 2 came
out in 2007, and gen 3 in 2010, so unknown what the mobo supports. With
each gen, bandwidth doubled: gen 1 (c.2003) was 4 GB/s, gen 2 (c.2007)
was 8 GB/s, gen 3 (c.2010) was 16 GB/s, gen 4 (c.2017) was 32 GB/s, gen
5 (c.2019) was 64 GB/s, and gen 6 (c.2021) was 128 GB/s. The Pentium
P6100 only supports up to gen 2.
If the current hardware setup is tolerable to the user, keep it that
way. Win10 will be an even bigger disappointment on that old hardware. Win10's installer does a hardware compatibility check. When hunting
around for users trying to upgrade to Win10, some reported the installer complained the CPU is not compatible due to a lack of NX support, so
that user had an AMD CPU (Intel calls it the XD bit).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_bit
The compatibility check (since Win8) also looks for support of PAE
(Physical Address Extension) and SSE2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2
Looks like the P6100 supports PAE and SSE2, and NX. The Pentium 4
(c.2000 to 2008) had NX support, and the P6100 came out later (c.2010).
It is possible the user saying the upgrade complained his P6100 had no
NX support was because it was disabled in the BIOS. I think there was
some security software that had you disable some of the hardware-based security features of the CPU, but seems that software would've been unnecessary once the OS supported them via BIOS features. Is your
friend the type that tweaks BIOS settings?
https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium_Dual-Core/Intel-Pentium%20Mobile%20P6100.html
That says the P6100 supports the NX bit.
I'd first try to resolve Macrium failing to save an image backup (not a file/logical backup, but an /image/ backup of the OS partitions - there
could be more than 1 partition for the OS). If the Win10 upgrade
completes, but the system if super-slow or flaky, you'll need that image
to restore to escape back to Win7. You'll have an irate friend if you destory the usability albeit slow with his Win7 setup.
Macrium has their peer-support web forums (https://forum.macrium.com/)
to ask for help. You'll find a more focused community there, but I
didn't check how viable are their forums (i.e., how active they are).
You'll need to provide more details on how you are backup up, if doing a
full backup, if doing an image versus logical backup, OS and hardware
specs, especially on the drives, and if tried Macrium on a quiescent OS
(you boot into the Macrium .dat image or from its bootable CD, so the OS doesn't load that you are trying to image), or are trying to run Macrium after booting the OS. The bootable image/CD for Macrium uses Windows PE
for its OS, so there is still an OS running, but not the one on the partitions you are trying to image.
I get the P6100 is 832 on single threaded (passmarks) and my
old E8400 is 1192. The P6100 runs at 2GHz, the E8400 at 3GHz.
You can see, even though the P6100 has a low clock, it is
benefiting from a better memory path (memory sticks connected
direct to P6100, memory sticks are on X48 Northbridge on my
now-deceased E8400). I was running Win10 on the E8400 until the
motherboard blew. The P6100 runs DDR3 RAM, so it's a bit better
than the previous generation.
The cache on the processors, matters during 7ZIP compression,
and can be less of an issue, for normal tasks.
The P6100 is squarely in the "min-acceptable" range, rather than
"impossible for Win10" of my single core laptop. You could
live with it. Just walk away from the machine on Patch Tuesday
and go sort recycleables for garbage day.
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
Working on a win 7 system for someone with a Pentium P6100 processor
and am wondering if anyone has this working on a windows 10 system.
Several things with this laptop I'm trying to fix, but would
eventually like to upgrade it to windows 10 if it can run it.
Was just going to image it and go ahead and try doing the 10 upgrade,
but not having luck getting Macrium to finish an image. Doing a
thorough chkdsk now, and see if that find errors.
Anyone running windows 10 with a Pentium P6100?
Nope, don't have an old box with the P6100. That CPU was released back
in 2010. Benchmarks are very poor compared to later CPUs.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/756/IntelR-PentiumR-CPU--------P6100----200GHz
I'm surpised the user isn't already complaining about having a slow
system. With Win10, it won't be faster, and probably even slower. Also likely with such an old CPU that the RAM is undersized. PCIe gen 2 came
out in 2007, and gen 3 in 2010, so unknown what the mobo supports. With
each gen, bandwidth doubled: gen 1 (c.2003) was 4 GB/s, gen 2 (c.2007)
was 8 GB/s, gen 3 (c.2010) was 16 GB/s, gen 4 (c.2017) was 32 GB/s, gen
5 (c.2019) was 64 GB/s, and gen 6 (c.2021) was 128 GB/s. The Pentium
P6100 only supports up to gen 2.
If the current hardware setup is tolerable to the user, keep it that
way. Win10 will be an even bigger disappointment on that old hardware. Win10's installer does a hardware compatibility check.
When hunting
around for users trying to upgrade to Win10, some reported the installer complained the CPU is not compatible due to a lack of NX support, so
that user had an AMD CPU (Intel calls it the XD bit).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_bit
The compatibility check (since Win8) also looks for support of PAE
(Physical Address Extension) and SSE2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2
Looks like the P6100 supports PAE and SSE2, and NX. The Pentium 4
(c.2000 to 2008) had NX support, and the P6100 came out later (c.2010).
It is possible the user saying the upgrade complained his P6100 had no
NX support was because it was disabled in the BIOS. I think there was
some security software that had you disable some of the hardware-based security features of the CPU, but seems that software would've been unnecessary once the OS supported them via BIOS features. Is your
friend the type that tweaks BIOS settings?
https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium_Dual-Core/Intel-Pentium%20Mobile%20P6100.html
That says the P6100 supports the NX bit.
I'd first try to resolve Macrium failing to save an image backup (not a file/logical backup, but an /image/ backup of the OS partitions - there
could be more than 1 partition for the OS). If the Win10 upgrade
completes, but the system if super-slow or flaky, you'll need that image
to restore to escape back to Win7. You'll have an irate friend if you destory the usability albeit slow with his Win7 setup.
Thanks Paul, appreciate your helpful knowledge. This system will mostly
be an email and casual browsing machine. There is a much newer desktop system available to do the work. Gonna give it a shot now that it's
stable.
sticks wrote:
[snip]
Thanks Paul, appreciate your helpful knowledge. This system will mostly be an email and casual browsing machine. There is a much newer desktop system available to do the work. Gonna give it a shot now that it's stable.
It may well be worth upgrading the hard disk to an SSD. For about £50 it can improve an old machine so that it at least becomes useable.
On 8/29/2023 1:11 PM, Graham J wrote:$59.99
sticks wrote:And if you want to salt a small one away for a rainy day,
[snip]
It may well be worth upgrading the hard disk to an SSD. For about £50 it can improve an old machine so that it at least becomes useable.
Thanks Paul, appreciate your helpful knowledge. This system will mostly be an email and casual browsing machine. There is a much newer desktop system available to do the work. Gonna give it a shot now that it's stable.
now is the time to buy. The prices have dropped a fair
bit this year, certainly more price movement than in
previous years. We can use the opinion of a camel for that.
https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B08QBJ2YMG
Paulhttps://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/sandisk-ultra-3d-sata-iii-ssd#SDSSDH3-1T00-G26
This morning it successfully created the image of the disk and I made a rescue boot disk on it. I tested it and it does boot on it properly, so
I'm going to try the win 10 this morning and see how it works. I now
now I can always put it back to a good working Win 7 laptop, like it is now.
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:I bought a used Dell laptop from ebay w/w7Pro, but it came with a
This morning it successfully created the image of the disk and I made aDo you really want to do an upgrade instead of a fresh install? After
rescue boot disk on it. I tested it and it does boot on it properly, so
I'm going to try the win 10 this morning and see how it works. I now
now I can always put it back to a good working Win 7 laptop, like it is now.
making the repairs in the Win7 setup, and after saving an image backup
of the OS partition(s), why not remove that drive to save it instead of
rely solely on an image backup, and replace with a new drive then
install Windows 10 afresh?
Windows 10 will run as an indefinite trial. That is, there is no
expiration of the trial. You can get Win10 for free, but it runs as a
trial. That means there is a watermark on the desktop background (there
are workarounds to eliminate the watermark), some personalization
features are missing (your friend may not need them), and some admin functions are missing (your friend may not have used them, so he won't
miss them). The new Win10 setup would be the cost of the new drive. If
the old one was a spinner (which appears so since you were running
chkdsk on it), get an SSD. The much faster drive will help compensate
for the old CPU. The data bus won't get any faster, but drive access
will speed up a lot.
If your friend decides later that he just can't stand any feature or
function losses of using the non-expiring Windows 10 trial, he can buy
just the product key for about $40 on eBay. He'd have a clean start
with Win10, and later decide to get a key if he wants to unlock features
and functions that he deems are critical to his use of Windows. The
Win10 image is free from Microsoft. Do a clean install on a new and
much faster drive. However, PCIe 2.0 is the limiting factor on the old hardware, and it'll be connected using SATA on the mobo instead of an
NVMe slot. Looks like your friend is over due for some hardware
upgrades. Like buying a home, that is not where the expenses stop.
Long URL: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100011693%20600545605%20600038506%20600038510%20600038519%208000%2050001077%2050001306%2050001455%2050001471&Order=1
Short URL: https://tinyurl.com/newegg4TBSSDs
Those are 4TB SSDs from the better brands. Don't just go by price.
Looks up the specs on candidates to check what is their read and write speeds, especially write speed. I selected Newegg as the seller. Add
in 3rd-party sellers using Newegg as a frontend shop, but only if you
trust any of them. Windows will boot faster. As for how much speedup
is noticed with other apps, depends on what the app does. Video games
will load faster although many have been tweaked to memory cache objects
and textures into memory to overcome spinner drives. Speed will be
faster, but not overall as much as you expect. So, have your friend
decide if they can afford the faster SSD drive, and start with a fresh install of the OS instead of muddling an upgrade with old updates,
tweaks, registry changes, and all the dross that gets pulled into an
upgraded OS from the old one.
Of course, with a fresh install of the OS, your friend will have to
reinstall all his old programs - well, those that still support
installing and running on Windows 10. So, make sure he/she has all the installation media for his old programs, or can retrieve them via online downloads. My aunt lost some very ancient graphics programs, like
making greeting cards, when she moved to Windows 10, but she found free alternatives for newer replacements. As for the data, well, that can be restored from your image backup.
I bought a used Dell laptop from ebay w/w7Pro, but it came with a
minimum of windows components, I am trying to install pysol fanclub and
keep getting an error, something about api ...missing. Have you any suggestions?
On 8/29/23 3:44 PM, Paul wrote:
On 8/29/2023 1:11 PM, Graham J wrote:$59.99
sticks wrote:And if you want to salt a small one away for a rainy day,
[snip]
It may well be worth upgrading the hard disk to an SSD. For about £50 it can improve an old machine so that it at least becomes useable.
Thanks Paul, appreciate your helpful knowledge. This system will mostly be an email and casual browsing machine. There is a much newer desktop system available to do the work. Gonna give it a shot now that it's stable.
now is the time to buy. The prices have dropped a fair
bit this year, certainly more price movement than in
previous years. We can use the opinion of a camel for that.
https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B08QBJ2YMG
https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/sandisk-ultra-3d-sata-iii-ssd#SDSSDH3-1T00-G26
Paul
SanDisk Ultra 3D SSD 1 TB
$52.99 Actual Price $52.99
$47.99
I bought a used Dell laptop from ebay w/w7Pro, but it came with
a minimum of windows components, I am trying to install pysol fanclub
and keep getting an error, something about api ...missing. Have you
any suggestions?
On 8/29/23 3:44 PM, Paul wrote:[]
On 8/29/2023 1:11 PM, Graham J wrote:
$59.99It may well be worth upgrading the hard disk to an SSD. For aboutAnd if you want to salt a small one away for a rainy day,
50 it can improve an old machine so that it at least becomes useable.
now is the time to buy. The prices have dropped a fair
bit this year, certainly more price movement than in
previous years. We can use the opinion of a camel for that.
https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B08QBJ2YMG
Paul >https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/sandisk-ultra-3d >-sata-iii-ssd#SDSSDH3-1T00-G26
SanDisk Ultra 3D SSD 1 TB
$52.99 Actual Price $52.99
$47.99
This "salt a small one away" - what would your reason be for doing that:
because you don't trust the bigger ones (because they're 3 or quad cell),
and think the small ones will disappear? (How would we know small ones
aren't made with 3 or 4 cell chips?)
On 8/29/2023 9:29 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
This "salt a small one away" - what would your reason be for doing that:
because you don't trust the bigger ones (because they're 3 or quad cell),
and think the small ones will disappear? (How would we know small ones
aren't made with 3 or 4 cell chips?)
The price will go back up. The fab is reducing output of specific
chip types, for the purpose of protecting prices (by making product
harder to find).
Sure, it's speculation.
They stopped making DDR2 in March, as an example of reining in waste.
If the economy wasn't so bad, the DDR2 might have stuck around a bit longer.
The same thing has happened with DRAM before. Bottom drops out of market, >DRAM is dirt cheap. That's a good time to buy, if you had not bought already. >I generally only buy RAM though, when there is a demonstrated need.
If and when Windows 11 storage slows down (after an "Upgrade" coming soon),
I'm pretty sure at this point, that somebody will be buying a new SSD.
I've been watching the Insider version, and some aspects of storage
are still slow. I have no idea what kind of "optimization" this represents o.O
o.O are "kooky eyeballs" by the way.
I think there was already a demonstrated issue with DirectStorage.
Which is something that might eventually be used in a computer game.
Paul
Do you think "small one"s (1 TB is a "small one" these days!) will disappear altogether?Drive, Upgrade PC or Laptop Memory and Storage for IT Pros, Creators, Everyday Users, MZ-77E1T0B/AM") OK? Though it's £29.99 on Amazon UK, which is very tempting! But there's also another one with the same part number other than QVO instead of EVO, but
(What's Window 7's size limit for SSD/HDs?)
If I do decide to do some salting, is there any way to tell which models are using one- or two-bit cells (if that's the right terminology) and which three- or four-? Is the one you cameled ("SAMSUNG 870 EVO SATA III SSD 1TB 2.5” Internal Solid State
Is there any _dis_advantage to "salting" for SSDs - do they deteriorate if unpowered? (For that matter, do spinners?)
Ditto, on the basis that the form factor and interface I might eventually need won't be the one I've speculated on - they seem to change so often.
If and when Windows 11 storage slows down (after an "Upgrade" coming soon),
Have you heard there's some "up"grade coming that'll hammer storage? (As well as slowing it down, presumably it'll shorten the life too if SSD?)
Never heard that term. I'm feeling old (-:
DirectStorage.
On 8/30/2023 4:46 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
Do you think "small one"s (1 TB is a "small one" these days!) will >>disappear altogether?
(What's Window 7's size limit for SSD/HDs?)
If I do decide to do some salting, is there any way to tell which
models are using one- or two-bit cells (if that's the right
terminology) and which three- or four-? Is the one you cameled
("SAMSUNG 870 EVO SATA III SSD 1TB 2.5” Internal Solid State Drive, >>Upgrade PC or Laptop Memory and Storage for IT Pros, Creators,
Everyday Users, MZ-77E1T0B/AM") OK? Though it's £29.99 on Amazon UK,
which is very tempting! But there's also another one with the same
part number other than QVO instead of EVO, but that's £52.06 - is
that better in some way, or does Q in the part number mean it uses the >>4-level chips that are to be avoided and it just hasn't dropped in price?
https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/consumer-storage/internal-ssd/870evo/
[near bottom, in "spec" section]
STORAGE MEMORY
Samsung V-NAND 3bit MLC <=== a violation of the naming scheme
The naming scheme would normally be:
SLC = 1 bit per cell (2 voltage levels for logic 0..1
MLC = 2 bit per cell (4 voltage levels for logic 00..11)
TLC = 3 bit per cell (8 voltage levels for logic 000..111) \__
Can get mushy,
QLC = 4 bit per cell (16 voltage levels for logic 0000..1111)
<=== sensitive to threshold shift / need error correction inside
At one time, the claim was, the Samsung VNAND first-generation, had
relaxed spacing internally (22nm), which improved the behavior of the flash. >A lot of time has passed since that first gen, and it would be natural
for the 3 bit VNAND to be more TLC-like by now, on smaller geometry.
There is no one to track the geometry for us, and tell us just how
much of a misnomer this is now. So what we might watch for, is
"write speed inconsistency" as a sign of shenanigans. If you bought a
V-NAND NVMe SSD, and it did not write at a constant 3500MB/sec, you might >suspect you've been suckered. 3500MB/sec is related to the speed of a
certain PCI Express standard wire rate. Each gen goes (roughly) 2x faster.
You can improve the mushy characteristic, by silently re-writing data at
rest inside the drive, without flashing the LED. That's a firmware level >trick, that can be made almost invisible (stop doing background writes,
when user issues a command).
You can see from this, the situation is rife with opportunities for abuse.
Is there any _dis_advantage to "salting" for SSDs - do they
deteriorate if unpowered? (For that matter, do spinners?)
NAND flash, could actually last forever... if it could be annealed. The >temperature for annealing, is too hot for the plastic package to take that.
NAND flash is "stressed" each time it is written. It is a floating gate >technology.
A drive at rest, is not being stressed. A drive which is "mushy" from sitting >on the shelf at the store, can be freshened up, by writing from end to end. >Before you benchmark it and panic at the speeds seen.
The charge on the gate could leak off, but a tunneling (quantum mechanical) >mechanism was used to put the charge there in the first place. It's just >possible the leaking would be quantum mechanically disallowed or discouraged >(high energy barrier). The standard boiler plate, is the recorded bit is >there for a minimum of ten years. And could last longer. The NOR flash chip >in some PCs, some have had bit-rot, which is a sign the charge may have
leaked off some of them. Not all of them. That might have been at the
20 year mark.
The magnetic domains on a hard drive, are likely to be a bit more "stable" than
the charge on a NAND flash gate. One reason this might be evident, is the >servo wedges (a fixed written pattern on the surface), those magnetic domains >are never written again once a drive leaves the factor, and we have drives that
are easily 20 years old and still work (servo pattern successfully
located) just
like the day they were made.
The motor on the HDD contains two drops of oil. That is our "precious resource"
inside a drive. If that oil were to disappear, the drive spindle seizes. One >poster reported, a drive was sitting on the floor, on some kind of rubber feet,
and when it seized while running one day, the sudden change in rotation caused >it to "hop" a tiny bit. The FDB motor is sealed, and is the motor type that >uses two drops of oil, for extended periods of operational life. Older drives >used ball bearings, where bearing wear caused increasing NRRO and noise. I have
four 9GB ball bearing drives, you can't sit in the room with the damn things, >for noise, yet the data is still on them. They will eventually become >unreadable,
because the heads won't be able to track the wobbling inside.
Ditto, on the basis that the form factor and interface I might eventually
need won't be the one I've speculated on - they seem to change so often.
DDR5, puts two channels on a single DIMM, and this is meant to distract us >from the level of innovation at the bit level. But since hardly any good
tech articles are written about this stuff, it's hard to say whether DDR5 is >an "honest" generation or not. And we should pay extra for deck chair movement.
And yes, they alter the number of contacts, the keying slot, and so on, so >that you can't put them into the wrong hole.
Have you heard there's some "up"grade coming that'll hammer storage?
If and when Windows 11 storage slows down (after an "Upgrade" coming soon), >>
(As well as slowing it down, presumably it'll shorten the life too if
SSD?)
I'll only know, if they tell us. All I can say, is I install updates to the >W11 Insider, and the delete speed (rate files are removed after placement and
flush of the trash), still seems slow. We know that $BITMAP is not properly >maintained any more, the $MFTMIRR can be corrupt, and some of these things
are potentially done, to reduce wear on SSD drives. The "thing" that detects >these anomalies, is older copies of Macrium.
On 8/29/2023 5:11 PM, Nic wrote:Thank you Paul
I bought a used Dell laptop from ebay w/w7Pro, but it came with"Running program is not possible, missing api-ms-win-core-path-l1-1-0.dll. #261"
a minimum of windows components, I am trying to install pysol fanclub
and keep getting an error, something about api ...missing. Have you
any suggestions?
https://github.com/shlomif/PySolFC/issues/261
Issue #1 api-ms-win-core-path-l1-1-0.dll <=== missing re-map DLL
Issue #2 "The installer uses Python 3.9, which is not compatible with Windows 7"
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/fix-missing-api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0dll-dll-in-windows/
"Go to the Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 Redistributable page from Microsoft and click on the Download button."
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=52685
"Supported Operating Systems
Windows 7 Service Pack 1
Windows 8
Windows 8.1
Windows Server 2012 (plus others I've removed from list)
Windows Vista Service Pack 2
Windows XP Service Pack 3"
Available as 32bit and 64bit -- install both to cover off both types of situations
But that's not going to fix the Python issues, whatever they are.
*******
I've tried to help people with those API-* issues.
First of all, those are not ordinary DLLs. The files are tiny, which is
a "hint" to you, that no executable code is inside. These are mapper DLLs, that map a request for a certain DLL in VS, to a specific and different
DLL in each OS you might run on. Microsoft applied for a patent for this technology.
There are two cases. You ask me to find you a DLL, I find one, you're
happy, case is closed.
But the vast majority of times, an entire set of API-* DLLs is missing,
and eventually... a phantom file that does not exist on the face
of the earth - the software is calling for that. The adventure ends,
and is unresolvable by hacker means.
*******
Some programs will call DirectX code for some reason,
and the DirectX code has a call to check "kernel version".
If it smells some older OSes, the program stops on a dime.
These issues can be fixed with a Hex Editor, by replacing
certain branch instructions with a NOP. But good luck patching
the whole world that way. Only specific programs, occasionally
get detailed patch instructions like that.
I got a demo game once, which runs on WinXP, but a kernel check
forbade Win2K. After altering two locations in the executable,
it played in Win2K (because I'd neutered the kernel check), and
I played the entire level, and there were no issues whatsoever.
The kernel check ? A waste of time. And totally unnecessary, as expected.
But Python is a huge surface, and this is merely an example of
what awaits. I don't know what sin Python 3.9 has committed.
In the github thread, the recommendation is to use an older version.
And they name a version that might work.
Archive.org has captured github, but that doesn't mean you can
"suck" the materials needed, out of archive.org . Some github
pages, they *do* have all versions archived and this is in
the form of "version announcements" with a paragraph of text
for each. Getting an older version from a properly prepared github
page is easy. For the github developers who are clueless, you'll have
a hard time finding such things. These paragraphs may be lower down
on the README.md page.
https://web.archive.org/web/20171005230620/https://github.com/shlomif/PySolFC/
Paul
Basically, I'm in two minds about the SSD: 30 quid for a TB _is_ tempting, but not sure if I'd ever use it. (The 415G data partition on this machine still has 321 GB free [21.7G free of 50G C: partition]. Spinner.)
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
This morning it successfully created the image of the disk and I made a
rescue boot disk on it. I tested it and it does boot on it properly, so
I'm going to try the win 10 this morning and see how it works. I now
now I can always put it back to a good working Win 7 laptop, like it is now.
Do you really want to do an upgrade instead of a fresh install? After
making the repairs in the Win7 setup, and after saving an image backup
of the OS partition(s), why not remove that drive to save it instead of
rely solely on an image backup, and replace with a new drive then
install Windows 10 afresh?
While I agree a fresh install would always be nice, one of the problems
with upgrading other people's systems is that they rarely store user
files with any kind of a system that makes it easy to simply reinstall programs and get all their stuff back. In this case, it was simply not
worth it for me to search through the whole computer and every program
on it to make sure everything got saved.
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
This morning it successfully created the image of the disk
and I made a rescue boot disk on it. I tested it and it
does boot on it properly, so I'm going to try the win 10
this morning and see how it works. I now now I can always
put it back to a good working Win 7 laptop, like it is
now.
Do you really want to do an upgrade instead of a fresh
install? After making the repairs in the Win7 setup, and
after saving an image backup of the OS partition(s), why
not remove that drive to save it instead of rely solely on
an image backup, and replace with a new drive then install
Windows 10 afresh?
Windows 10 will run as an indefinite trial. That is, there
is no expiration of the trial. You can get Win10 for free,
but it runs as a trial.
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote in
news:igcf299ilocf$.dlg@v.nguard.lh:
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
This morning it successfully created the image of the disk
and I made a rescue boot disk on it. I tested it and it
does boot on it properly, so I'm going to try the win 10
this morning and see how it works. I now now I can always
put it back to a good working Win 7 laptop, like it is
now.
Do you really want to do an upgrade instead of a fresh
install? After making the repairs in the Win7 setup, and
after saving an image backup of the OS partition(s), why
not remove that drive to save it instead of rely solely on
an image backup, and replace with a new drive then install
Windows 10 afresh?
Windows 10 will run as an indefinite trial. That is, there
is no expiration of the trial. You can get Win10 for free,
but it runs as a trial.
...or you can **still** get the free Windows10 upgrade to the same OS level (Home,
Pro) using your valid Win7 key.
As of Aug 2023, this is still a working upgrade path.
I've done clean installs with it for personal use, and most recently, a couple in-place
upgrades on work machines.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-how-you-can-still-get-a-free-windows-10- upgrade/
...or you can **still** get the free Windows10 upgrade to
the same OS level (Home, Pro) using your valid Win7 key.
As of Aug 2023, this is still a working upgrade path.
I've done clean installs with it for personal use, and
most recently, a couple in-place upgrades on work
machines.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-how-you-can-still-get-a
-free-windows-10- upgrade/
Yep, do the fresh install to get the trial version. Then
decide later to add the license key either to upgrade (but
with a fresh install already performed), or go buy just a
license key ($40 at eBay) to "upgrade" from the trial
version to whatever key you buy.
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