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    From AllanH@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 25 10:43:55 2023
    This is a service that I decided to disable.
    For some reason, it will not stay disabled.
    It reverts back to the Startup Type of Manual (Trigger Start).
    I've never had this type of problem with any service that I have disabled. Could someone tell me why this happens and what I can do to keep it
    disabled?
    Thanks...

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to AllanH on Fri Aug 25 19:16:08 2023
    On 8/25/2023 11:43 AM, AllanH wrote:
    This is a service that I decided to disable.
    For some reason, it will not stay disabled.
    It reverts back to the Startup Type of Manual (Trigger Start).
    I've never had this type of problem with any service that I have disabled. Could someone tell me why this happens and what I can do to keep it disabled? Thanks...

    Claimed to be Win10 only, and should be manual.

    https://batcmd.com/windows/10/services/dmwappushservice/

    It's the usual thing. Microsoft uses a malware technique,
    just like tag team wrestlers in a ring. You try to disable
    a service, a "boss process" comes up behind you and hits
    you over the head with a chair. Classy.

    https://www.tweakhound.com/2021/03/18/oo-shutup10-issue/

    "I check the Error Log and find:
    Error Event ID 406 Microsoft-Windows-DeviceManagement-Enterprise-Diagnostics-Provider
    MDM PushRouter: Pushrouter failed to start because the dmwappushservice service is disabled.
    "

    This is related to Mobile Device Management (MDM) and InTune. Maybe the automation you see, is in Win10 Pro ? They were presumably testing
    this Enterprise feature, in end-user PCs. Pushing out policies via it,
    is similar to GPEDIT (a Pro feature, for IT Enterprise control of end-users).

    There is no structure in Enrollments, that matches a description here.

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/event-2545-microsoft-windows-devicemanagement/a7e0f8e9-685f-44d8-be69-58fd1f8a716e?page=6

    Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Enrollments
    Delete the key referencing the MDM.
    Delete the key referencing WMI_Bridge_SCCM_Server
    gpupdate /force

    But that could be on an Enterprise machine. The Enrollments on my VM
    are just GUIDs. And none of them is "special looking". What would
    happen if you killed every entry in the Enrollments ? Hmmm.

    Could we stop the service, disable it, then

    sc delete servicename

    I suppose that would last until Patch Tuesday. Or... less.

    Maybe there would be a "permissions issue", a need to elevate
    as TrustedInstaller. Which is not an insurmountable problem.

    Windows TagTeamWrestlers do not normally re-run installers,
    so we have that working for us. A DISM restorehealth might
    repair damage from a user-hammering.

    Paul

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  • From candycane@21:1/172 to Paul on Fri Aug 25 21:19:18 2023
    It's the usual thing. Microsoft uses a malware technique,
    just like tag team wrestlers in a ring. You try to disable
    a service, a "boss process" comes up behind you and hits
    you over the head with a chair. Classy.

    They try so hard to force their own will onto you, then pretend it's your
    fault for wanting customization when their closed mindedness breaks stuff.

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    user is generated from /dev/null

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  • From AllanH@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Aug 26 04:35:13 2023
    On 8/25/2023 6:16 PM, Paul wrote:
    On 8/25/2023 11:43 AM, AllanH wrote:
    This is a service that I decided to disable.
    For some reason, it will not stay disabled.
    It reverts back to the Startup Type of Manual (Trigger Start).
    I've never had this type of problem with any service that I have disabled. >> Could someone tell me why this happens and what I can do to keep it disabled?
    Thanks...

    Claimed to be Win10 only, and should be manual.

    https://batcmd.com/windows/10/services/dmwappushservice/

    It's the usual thing. Microsoft uses a malware technique,
    just like tag team wrestlers in a ring. You try to disable
    a service, a "boss process" comes up behind you and hits
    you over the head with a chair. Classy.

    https://www.tweakhound.com/2021/03/18/oo-shutup10-issue/

    "I check the Error Log and find:
    Error Event ID 406 Microsoft-Windows-DeviceManagement-Enterprise-Diagnostics-Provider
    MDM PushRouter: Pushrouter failed to start because the dmwappushservice service is disabled.
    "

    This is related to Mobile Device Management (MDM) and InTune. Maybe the automation you see, is in Win10 Pro ? They were presumably testing
    this Enterprise feature, in end-user PCs. Pushing out policies via it,
    is similar to GPEDIT (a Pro feature, for IT Enterprise control of end-users).

    There is no structure in Enrollments, that matches a description here.

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/event-2545-microsoft-windows-devicemanagement/a7e0f8e9-685f-44d8-be69-58fd1f8a716e?page=6

    Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Enrollments
    Delete the key referencing the MDM.
    Delete the key referencing WMI_Bridge_SCCM_Server
    gpupdate /force

    But that could be on an Enterprise machine. The Enrollments on my VM
    are just GUIDs. And none of them is "special looking". What would
    happen if you killed every entry in the Enrollments ? Hmmm.

    Could we stop the service, disable it, then

    sc delete servicename

    I suppose that would last until Patch Tuesday. Or... less.

    Maybe there would be a "permissions issue", a need to elevate
    as TrustedInstaller. Which is not an insurmountable problem.

    Windows TagTeamWrestlers do not normally re-run installers,
    so we have that working for us. A DISM restorehealth might
    repair damage from a user-hammering.

    Paul

    Thanks for your reply.
    The Enrollments key on my computer doesn't match that description either.
    Since that service is never in the Running status anyway, I'll just
    leave it as Manual.

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  • From AllanH@21:1/5 to Paul on Sun Aug 27 02:54:02 2023
    On 8/25/2023 6:16 PM, Paul wrote:
    On 8/25/2023 11:43 AM, AllanH wrote:
    This is a service that I decided to disable.
    For some reason, it will not stay disabled.
    It reverts back to the Startup Type of Manual (Trigger Start).
    I've never had this type of problem with any service that I have disabled. >> Could someone tell me why this happens and what I can do to keep it disabled?
    Thanks...

    Claimed to be Win10 only, and should be manual.

    https://batcmd.com/windows/10/services/dmwappushservice/

    It's the usual thing. Microsoft uses a malware technique,
    just like tag team wrestlers in a ring. You try to disable
    a service, a "boss process" comes up behind you and hits
    you over the head with a chair. Classy.

    https://www.tweakhound.com/2021/03/18/oo-shutup10-issue/

    "I check the Error Log and find:
    Error Event ID 406 Microsoft-Windows-DeviceManagement-Enterprise-Diagnostics-Provider
    MDM PushRouter: Pushrouter failed to start because the dmwappushservice service is disabled.
    "

    This is related to Mobile Device Management (MDM) and InTune. Maybe the automation you see, is in Win10 Pro ? They were presumably testing
    this Enterprise feature, in end-user PCs. Pushing out policies via it,
    is similar to GPEDIT (a Pro feature, for IT Enterprise control of end-users).

    There is no structure in Enrollments, that matches a description here.

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/event-2545-microsoft-windows-devicemanagement/a7e0f8e9-685f-44d8-be69-58fd1f8a716e?page=6

    Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Enrollments
    Delete the key referencing the MDM.
    Delete the key referencing WMI_Bridge_SCCM_Server
    gpupdate /force

    But that could be on an Enterprise machine. The Enrollments on my VM
    are just GUIDs. And none of them is "special looking". What would
    happen if you killed every entry in the Enrollments ? Hmmm.

    Could we stop the service, disable it, then

    sc delete servicename

    I suppose that would last until Patch Tuesday. Or... less.

    Maybe there would be a "permissions issue", a need to elevate
    as TrustedInstaller. Which is not an insurmountable problem.

    Windows TagTeamWrestlers do not normally re-run installers,
    so we have that working for us. A DISM restorehealth might
    repair damage from a user-hammering.

    Paul

    Since I do a registry backup regularly, I changed my mind and decided to
    delete the service.
    I'll see if it stays that way.

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  • From AllanH@21:1/5 to Paul on Wed Sep 13 15:11:13 2023
    On 8/25/2023 6:16 PM, Paul wrote:
    On 8/25/2023 11:43 AM, AllanH wrote:
    This is a service that I decided to disable.
    For some reason, it will not stay disabled.
    It reverts back to the Startup Type of Manual (Trigger Start).
    I've never had this type of problem with any service that I have disabled. >> Could someone tell me why this happens and what I can do to keep it disabled?
    Thanks...

    Claimed to be Win10 only, and should be manual.

    https://batcmd.com/windows/10/services/dmwappushservice/

    It's the usual thing. Microsoft uses a malware technique,
    just like tag team wrestlers in a ring. You try to disable
    a service, a "boss process" comes up behind you and hits
    you over the head with a chair. Classy.

    https://www.tweakhound.com/2021/03/18/oo-shutup10-issue/

    "I check the Error Log and find:
    Error Event ID 406 Microsoft-Windows-DeviceManagement-Enterprise-Diagnostics-Provider
    MDM PushRouter: Pushrouter failed to start because the dmwappushservice service is disabled.
    "

    This is related to Mobile Device Management (MDM) and InTune. Maybe the automation you see, is in Win10 Pro ? They were presumably testing
    this Enterprise feature, in end-user PCs. Pushing out policies via it,
    is similar to GPEDIT (a Pro feature, for IT Enterprise control of end-users).

    There is no structure in Enrollments, that matches a description here.

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/event-2545-microsoft-windows-devicemanagement/a7e0f8e9-685f-44d8-be69-58fd1f8a716e?page=6

    Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Enrollments
    Delete the key referencing the MDM.
    Delete the key referencing WMI_Bridge_SCCM_Server
    gpupdate /force

    But that could be on an Enterprise machine. The Enrollments on my VM
    are just GUIDs. And none of them is "special looking". What would
    happen if you killed every entry in the Enrollments ? Hmmm.

    Could we stop the service, disable it, then

    sc delete servicename

    I suppose that would last until Patch Tuesday. Or... less.

    Maybe there would be a "permissions issue", a need to elevate
    as TrustedInstaller. Which is not an insurmountable problem.

    Windows TagTeamWrestlers do not normally re-run installers,
    so we have that working for us. A DISM restorehealth might
    repair damage from a user-hammering.

    Paul

    Still no sign of the service even after applying the latest Cumulative
    Update (KB5030211).
    Thanks again for showing me the command to delete it. :)

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