Just a rerport about my internet connection.
Win10 on an Acer laptop several years old.
Win10 readers may remember a year ago when I complained that the wifi connection to my laptop kept breaking.
Someone kindly pointed out that I could also have a cable connection!
So I did that and IMO the strangest things have been happening.
For the last year, the cable connection works fine, for 2 or 3 days. I
don't know if it's faster than wifi, but they're both fast enough.
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort
of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
I have to unplug the cable. Then I can use the wifi for 2 or 3 days,
until it no longer works.
Then I have to plug the cable in again! And the cycle repeats.
This is not a big problem but if anyone know why or how to stop it, I am
very curious.
--------------
Then a few days ago neither wifi nor cable worked,
In Device Manager, bad icons were found for
1) Qualcomm Atheros QCA93277 wireless network adapter -- Windows has dropped this device because it has rejected problems. Code 43
2) Realtek PCIe GbE family controller - same message and code.
3) PCI Simple Communication Controller -- The drivers for this device
are not installed Code 28
There are no compatible drivers for this device. HUH!!!!
4) SM Bus Controller -- same message as line above, same code and same HUH!!!
Troubleshooter reported 3 problems but didn't fix any of them.
I tried to compare with my desktop but none of these four things were
found in Device Manager, not even the things related to the cable
connection!
I didnt' ask here because for some reason on my deskptop computer, my newsgroup program recently stopped working -- I may ask you about that later -- and I have another old laptop that still accepted win10 and
works pretty well and I was going to dig that out to compare it and to
post with, but first....
I google the first message and the first response was, This is a problem
and you should return your machine to the manufactuer. Ugh. ;-)
The second response was Disable and Enable the device, and that tooked
15 seconds and worked fine. Doing the first one got back the wifi and
doing the second one got back the cable connection.
I haven't done the 3rd or 4th because it says there are no compatible
drivers for this device. It should know.
Do you think there is any relationship between the hinky way it was
working, back and forth, wifi and cable, and the later failure of both?
Or what did cause the failure of the first two?
Do items 3 and 4 do anything I care about?
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort
of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
I have to unplug the cable. Then I can use the wifi for 2 or 3 days,
until it no longer works.
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort
of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
Just a rerport about my internet connection.
Win10 on an Acer laptop several years old.
Win10 readers may remember a year ago when I complained that the wifi >connection to my laptop kept breaking.
Someone kindly pointed out that I could also have a cable connection!
So I did that and IMO the strangest things have been happening.
For the last year, the cable connection works fine, for 2 or 3 days. I
don't know if it's faster than wifi, but they're both fast enough.
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort
of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric >quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
I have to unplug the cable. Then I can use the wifi for 2 or 3 days,
until it no longer works.
Then I have to plug the cable in again! And the cycle repeats.
This is not a big problem but if anyone know why or how to stop it, I am
very curious.
Just a rerport about my internet connection.
Win10 on an Acer laptop several years old.
Win10 readers may remember a year ago when I complained that the wifi connection to my laptop kept breaking.
Someone kindly pointed out that I could also have a cable connection!
So I did that and IMO the strangest things have been happening.
For the last year, the cable connection works fine, for 2 or 3 days. I
don't know if it's faster than wifi, but they're both fast enough.
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort
of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
I have to unplug the cable. Then I can use the wifi for 2 or 3 days,
until it no longer works.
Then I have to plug the cable in again! And the cycle repeats.
This is not a big problem but if anyone know why or how to stop it, I am
very curious.
--------------
Then a few days ago neither wifi nor cable worked,
In Device Manager, bad icons were found for
1) Qualcomm Atheros QCA93277 wireless network adapter -- Windows has dropped this device because it has rejected problems. Code 43
2) Realtek PCIe GbE family controller - same message and code.
3) PCI Simple Communication Controller -- The drivers for this device
are not installed Code 28
There are no compatible drivers for this device. HUH!!!!
4) SM Bus Controller -- same message as line above, same code and same HUH!!!
Troubleshooter reported 3 problems but didn't fix any of them.
I tried to compare with my desktop but none of these four things were
found in Device Manager, not even the things related to the cable
connection!
I didnt' ask here because for some reason on my deskptop computer, my newsgroup program recently stopped working -- I may ask you about that later -- and I have another old laptop that still accepted win10 and
works pretty well and I was going to dig that out to compare it and to
post with, but first....
I google the first message and the first response was, This is a problem
and you should return your machine to the manufactuer. Ugh. ;-)
The second response was Disable and Enable the device, and that tooked
15 seconds and worked fine. Doing the first one got back the wifi and
doing the second one got back the cable connection.
I haven't done the 3rd or 4th because it says there are no compatible
drivers for this device. It should know.
Do you think there is any relationship between the hinky way it was
working, back and forth, wifi and cable, and the later failure of both?
Or what did cause the failure of the first two?
Do items 3 and 4 do anything I care about?
On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 00:22:55 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
Just a rerport about my internet connection.
Win10 on an Acer laptop several years old.
Win10 readers may remember a year ago when I complained that the wifi
connection to my laptop kept breaking.
Someone kindly pointed out that I could also have a cable connection!
So I did that and IMO the strangest things have been happening.
For the last year, the cable connection works fine, for 2 or 3 days. I
don't know if it's faster than wifi, but they're both fast enough.
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort
of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric
quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
I have to unplug the cable. Then I can use the wifi for 2 or 3 days,
until it no longer works.
Then I have to plug the cable in again! And the cycle repeats.
This is not a big problem but if anyone know why or how to stop it, I am
very curious.
My guess: it's your router.
On 8/19/2023 9:45 AM, Ken Blake wrote:Perhaps the drivers for his network adapters have become corrupted?
On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 00:22:55 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
Just a rerport about my internet connection.
Win10 on an Acer laptop several years old.
Win10 readers may remember a year ago when I complained that the wifi
connection to my laptop kept breaking.
Someone kindly pointed out that I could also have a cable connection!
So I did that and IMO the strangest things have been happening.
For the last year, the cable connection works fine, for 2 or 3 days. I
don't know if it's faster than wifi, but they're both fast enough.
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort
of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric
quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
I have to unplug the cable. Then I can use the wifi for 2 or 3 days,
until it no longer works.
Then I have to plug the cable in again! And the cycle repeats.
This is not a big problem but if anyone know why or how to stop it, I am >>> very curious.
My guess: it's your router.
He's got too much Device Manager damage.
If the router was bad, the Device Manager would
remain in pristine condition the entire time. Just
the "globe" symbol in the Task Bar, would be graphic evidence
of networking trouble.
Windows 10 tends to automatically load drivers, and pave the
Device Manager until it is "pretty". Unlike earlier Windows OSes,
where you did the paving work your own self, with the driver CD.
Paul
On 8/19/2023 12:16 PM, Paul wrote:
On 8/19/2023 9:45 AM, Ken Blake wrote:Perhaps the drivers for his network adapters have become corrupted? Would it help if he uninstalled and then re-installed those drivers after first seeing if there are any updates to the drivers he has been using?
On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 00:22:55 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
Just a rerport about my internet connection.
Win10 on an Acer laptop several years old.
Win10 readers may remember a year ago when I complained that the wifi
connection to my laptop kept breaking.
Someone kindly pointed out that I could also have a cable connection!
So I did that and IMO the strangest things have been happening.
For the last year, the cable connection works fine, for 2 or 3 days. I >>>> don't know if it's faster than wifi, but they're both fast enough.
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort >>>> of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric >>>> quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
I have to unplug the cable. Then I can use the wifi for 2 or 3 days,
until it no longer works.
Then I have to plug the cable in again! And the cycle repeats.
This is not a big problem but if anyone know why or how to stop it, I am >>>> very curious.
My guess: it's your router.
He's got too much Device Manager damage.
If the router was bad, the Device Manager would
remain in pristine condition the entire time. Just
the "globe" symbol in the Task Bar, would be graphic evidence
of networking trouble.
Windows 10 tends to automatically load drivers, and pave the
Device Manager until it is "pretty". Unlike earlier Windows OSes,
where you did the paving work your own self, with the driver CD.
Paul
Just a rerport about my internet connection.
Win10 on an Acer laptop several years old.
Win10 readers may remember a year ago when I complained that the wifi connection to my laptop kept breaking.
Someone kindly pointed out that I could also have a cable connection!
So I did that and IMO the strangest things have been happening.
For the last year, the cable connection works fine, for 2 or 3 days. I
don't know if it's faster than wifi, but they're both fast enough.
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort
of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
I have to unplug the cable. Then I can use the wifi for 2 or 3 days,
until it no longer works.
Then I have to plug the cable in again! And the cycle repeats.
This is not a big problem but if anyone know why or how to stop it, I am
very curious.
--------------
Then a few days ago neither wifi nor cable worked,
In Device Manager, bad icons were found for
1) Qualcomm Atheros QCA93277 wireless network adapter -- Windows has dropped this device because it has rejected problems. Code 43
2) Realtek PCIe GbE family controller - same message and code.
3) PCI Simple Communication Controller -- The drivers for this device
are not installed Code 28
There are no compatible drivers for this device. HUH!!!!
4) SM Bus Controller -- same message as line above, same code and same HUH!!!
Troubleshooter reported 3 problems but didn't fix any of them.
I tried to compare with my desktop but none of these four things were
found in Device Manager, not even the things related to the cable
connection!
I didnt' ask here because for some reason on my deskptop computer, my newsgroup program recently stopped working -- I may ask you about that later -- and I have another old laptop that still accepted win10 and
works pretty well and I was going to dig that out to compare it and to
post with, but first....
I google the first message and the first response was, This is a problem
and you should return your machine to the manufactuer. Ugh. ;-)
The second response was Disable and Enable the device, and that tooked
15 seconds and worked fine. Doing the first one got back the wifi and
doing the second one got back the cable connection.
I haven't done the 3rd or 4th because it says there are no compatible
drivers for this device. It should know.
Do you think there is any relationship between the hinky way it was
working, back and forth, wifi and cable, and the later failure of both?
Or what did cause the failure of the first two?
Do items 3 and 4 do anything I care about?
micky wrote:
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort
of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric
quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
sounds like your computer is switching from wired to wifi, bu the wifi
isn't working, can you just shut off the wifi?
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 19 Aug 2023 08:57:14 +0100, Andy Burns ><usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort
of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric
quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
sounds like your computer is switching from wired to wifi, bu the wifi >>isn't working, can you just shut off the wifi?
Well, the wifi works well for 2 or 3 or more days at a time, but your >suggestion was the simplest so I turned it off a day ago.
It will take several days to know if this improves the cable connection.
I wonder how long it will take me to rmemeber to turn the wifi back on
next time I take the laptop out of the house. I'm sure I'll forget. :-)
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 20 Aug 2023 14:43:48 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 19 Aug 2023 08:57:14 +0100, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort >>>> of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric >>>> quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
sounds like your computer is switching from wired to wifi, bu the wifi
isn't working, can you just shut off the wifi?
Well, the wifi works well for 2 or 3 or more days at a time, but your
suggestion was the simplest so I turned it off a day ago.
It will take several days to know if this improves the cable connection.
Well, it took only a day. The cable connection failed a bit ago (and I
got the icon of the world, with a few lines of lat and longitude.)
I turned wifi back on, and just like before, it still didn't work until
I unplugged the cable. Surprising. The cable works even when wifi is enabled, but not the reverse.
I wonder how long it will take me to rmemeber to turn the wifi back on
next time I take the laptop out of the house. I'm sure I'll forget. :-)
So not a problem anymore.
I appreciate the other suggestions, but they would be too much effort
for too little likely gain, and the subject line did say "Just a
report...", so I'm not going to try them. Thanks anyhow.
Disabling/re-enabling drivers, and searching for an updated driver is a very fast and easy task with Win10. Just because you've never tried it doesn't mean it's complicated or will take a long time.next time's I'd click on update driver and then select the automatically search for an updated one. If the search finds one, install it.
In your search box on the windows task bar, write the words: device manger
When it opens, scroll down the list of devices until you see: network adapters
Highlight the adapter you want to work with a single left click of the mouse. When highlighted, right click on that specific adapter. From there, I would first disable and after a minute re-enable the driver. If that didn't solve the problem, the
Total time of fussing via the device manager, probably less than 2 minutes. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
On 8/21/2023 9:21 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 20 Aug 2023 14:43:48 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 19 Aug 2023 08:57:14 +0100, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
After a few days, the cable connection icon, the monitor with some sort >>>>> of cord, disappears from the systray and is replaced by the concentric >>>>> quarter-))). But the internet does not work.
sounds like your computer is switching from wired to wifi, bu the wifi >>>> isn't working, can you just shut off the wifi?
Well, the wifi works well for 2 or 3 or more days at a time, but your
suggestion was the simplest so I turned it off a day ago.
It will take several days to know if this improves the cable connection.
Well, it took only a day. The cable connection failed a bit ago (and I
got the icon of the world, with a few lines of lat and longitude.)
I turned wifi back on, and just like before, it still didn't work until
I unplugged the cable. Surprising. The cable works even when wifi is
enabled, but not the reverse.
I wonder how long it will take me to rmemeber to turn the wifi back on
next time I take the laptop out of the house. I'm sure I'll forget. :-)
So not a problem anymore.
I appreciate the other suggestions, but they would be too much effort
for too little likely gain, and the subject line did say "Just a
report...", so I'm not going to try them. Thanks anyhow.
Disabling/re-enabling drivers, and searching for an updated driver is a
very fast and easy task with Win10.
Just because you've never tried it
doesn't mean it's complicated or will take a long time.
In your search box on the windows task bar, write the words: device manger
When it opens, scroll down the list of devices until you see: network >adapters
Highlight the adapter you want to work with a single left click of the
mouse. When highlighted, right click on that specific adapter. From
there, I would first disable and after a minute re-enable the driver.
If that didn't solve the problem, the next time's I'd click on update
driver and then select the automatically search for an updated one. If
the search finds one, install it.
Total time of fussing via the device manager, probably less than 2
minutes.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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