• TomTom MyDrive install problem

    From sticks@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 12:03:11 2023
    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install. I have used
    this before to update using the computers internet connection instead of wireless. Today, it said there was a mandatory update. Tried to do it
    and it said it was unable to complete and would open the update folder.
    This turned out to be the windows documents folder with nothing related
    to TomTom in it. It has worked on this computer before, so I
    uninstalled and reinstalled, even using windows/setting/apps to do the uninstall.

    So, it appears to install and then start up. It gets to showing the
    outskirts of the window and then just sits there. Right clicking in the taskbar on the program trying to open gives three options. TemMDC, Pin
    to taksbar, and close window.

    I tried excluding the folder in windows defender and also the process
    listed in the starting shortcut. Which brings a possibly related
    question. The only way I can get to the program is through this
    shortcut that gets created at install. There is nothing listed under
    the start menu. Seems odd to me. Any ideas on how to get past this and
    get it working again?

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Graham J on Thu Aug 3 12:48:09 2023
    On 8/3/2023 12:30 PM, Graham J wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install.  I have used
    this before to update using the computers internet connection instead
    of wireless.

    [snip]

    Don't understand.  Does the wireless mechanism in some way not use the internet - does it come direct from the satellite?


    The GPS unit works by itself just fine. It is not the GPS function, but updating the devices file that's the problem. New maps, for example.
    It will connect to my wireless connection to do updates. Problem is
    this is a motorcycle GPS and out in my garage. It's a ways from the
    router and not a great connection. I have wired my internet out to my
    garage and have used this before today to update the different GPS
    devices I have using the wired connection to internet. It is the
    program TomTom MyDrive that doesn't work, won't update, or install again
    on the garage computer.

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  • From Graham J@21:1/5 to sticks on Thu Aug 3 19:00:32 2023
    sticks wrote:
    On 8/3/2023 12:30 PM, Graham J wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install.  I have used
    this before to update using the computers internet connection instead
    of wireless.

    [snip]

    Don't understand.  Does the wireless mechanism in some way not use the
    internet - does it come direct from the satellite?


    The GPS unit works by itself just fine.  It is not the GPS function, but updating the devices file that's the problem.  New maps, for example. It will connect to my wireless connection to do updates.  Problem is this
    is a motorcycle GPS and out in my garage.  It's a ways from the router
    and not a great connection.  I have wired my internet out to my garage
    and have used this before today to update the different GPS devices I
    have using the wired connection to internet.  It is the program TomTom MyDrive that doesn't work, won't update, or install again on the garage computer.

    So what is this garage computer? Does it use the wired connection?

    If you put a wireless access point in the garage, connected to the wired ethernet, will the GPS unit on the motorcycle use the better WiFi signal
    and update its maps properly?


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    Graham J

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  • From Graham J@21:1/5 to sticks on Thu Aug 3 18:30:58 2023
    sticks wrote:
    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install.  I have used
    this before to update using the computers internet connection instead of wireless.

    [snip]

    Don't understand. Does the wireless mechanism in some way not use the
    internet - does it come direct from the satellite?


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    Graham J

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Graham J on Thu Aug 3 13:58:31 2023
    On 8/3/2023 1:00 PM, Graham J wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 8/3/2023 12:30 PM, Graham J wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install.  I have
    used this before to update using the computers internet connection
    instead of wireless.

    [snip]

    Don't understand.  Does the wireless mechanism in some way not use
    the internet - does it come direct from the satellite?


    The GPS unit works by itself just fine.  It is not the GPS function,
    but updating the devices file that's the problem.  New maps, for
    example. It will connect to my wireless connection to do updates.
    Problem is this is a motorcycle GPS and out in my garage.  It's a ways
    from the router and not a great connection.  I have wired my internet
    out to my garage and have used this before today to update the
    different GPS devices I have using the wired connection to internet.
    It is the program TomTom MyDrive that doesn't work, won't update, or
    install again on the garage computer.

    So what is this garage computer?  Does it use the wired connection?

    If you put a wireless access point in the garage, connected to the wired ethernet, will the GPS unit on the motorcycle use the better WiFi signal
    and update its maps properly?

    Sorry if I am not explaining this properly. I do not have a wireless
    access point in the garage. I have a Cat6 cable hard wired to my garage computer that previously was using wireless. Like I said, it's a ways
    to the router and it at times got slow. Internet is great on that now.
    The TomTom device does connect to the computer easily and is recognized
    via USB. It still won't use the computers internet because the program
    just won't run even after multiple attempts at install. You can't just
    connect it to the computer and update. They have to go through TomTom's program. Kinda funny though, it actually just kind of acknowledges you
    have updates available and then tells you to use the screen on the
    device to do it. You'd think that you should be able to just update the
    device with the app on the computer, but it just kind of gives it
    permission to do so. Just wish I could get to that point.

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  • From Graham J@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 21:12:57 2023
    sticks wrote:

    [snip]

    Since the computer has WiFi, can you configure internet sharing so it
    functions as an access point? That way your GPS device could
    communicate using WiFi to the computer and thence by Ethernet cable to
    your router - much faster than by WiFi to the router.

    So you won't need the TomTom program installed on the computer - the GPS
    device updates its maps directly from the TomTom support site.

    Is there a TomTom forum where you can ask>

    Or can you get a different GPS device, i.e. not TomTom?

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    Graham J

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Thu Aug 3 22:06:40 2023
    On 8/3/2023 9:33 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install. I have used
    this before to update using the computers internet connection instead
    of wireless. Today, it said there was a mandatory update. Tried to
    do it and it said it was unable to complete and would open the update
    folder. This turned out to be the windows documents folder with
    nothing related to TomTom in it. It has worked on this computer
    before, so I uninstalled and reinstalled, even using
    windows/setting/apps to do the uninstall.

    So, it appears to install and then start up. It gets to showing the
    outskirts of the window and then just sits there. Right clicking in
    the taskbar on the program trying to open gives three options.
    TemMDC, Pin to taksbar, and close window.

    I tried excluding the folder in windows defender and also the process
    listed in the starting shortcut. Which brings a possibly related
    question. The only way I can get to the program is through this
    shortcut that gets created at install. There is nothing listed under
    the start menu. Seems odd to me. Any ideas on how to get past this
    and get it working again?

    https://mydrive.tomtom.com/

    That's a web site. You don't need to update your web browser to get something new at their web site. I didn't bother playing with it, but noticed there is a Login to get to your account. Can you login okay?

    Yes, that's where you go to download MyDrive Connect. That is the
    program I had installed and used in the past to update the GPS device
    via the computer instead of wireless. Today the program said it had to
    be updated before you could use it. That's where I'm stuck.

    I just tried the program on my other computer in the house and it too
    needed to be updated before use. I let it do so and it works just fine
    after being updated. Something got screwed up on the install on this
    computer. Both are windows 10 systems.

    One thing I recall that happened on this machine and not the one that
    works was a box displaying progress on something I think it said was
    visual basic related. It happened fast, and I'm not sure, but I think
    it was visual basic 6. I'll try to see if I can work on reinstalling
    that separately on the chance that got screwed up.

    Uninstalling and reinstalling MyDrive Connect hasn't shown that same VB6
    stuff since the first time I tried today, and is getting me nowhere.

    ---snip---


    Ah, you asked in a Windows 10 newsgroup, but there is a TomTom MyDrive
    app for Android or iOS.

    ---snip---

    I do have their app on my Iphone, it works just as intended. I just
    don't use it for doing the big updates on the device, or any updates for
    that matter. It is fine for getting a quick route to the GPS device,
    but that's about all I use it for.


    For example, you said only the shortcut works to load the TomTom MyDrive
    app, but it's not listed in the Start menu. Well, if you were running Virtualbox

    Not running a virtual box. And the computer it does work on does have a listing for TomTom and I can run it from there using the start menu. It
    is odd that even when it did work before, I never had an entry for it in
    the start menu programs list.

    ---snip---

    There is no download link for their MyDrive *Connect* program.
    Apparently you have to log into an account with them before you can get
    that program.

    That is correct. I use this often and sign in regularly as I plot
    routes to take on the motorcycle. Like I say, it worked until today and
    the update attempt.

    I've never used TomTom, because I thought you had to subscribe (pay) to
    use their services. If so, is your TomTom account still active?

    You are correct I think that you do have to pay for their services if
    you use your phone as the device. I think they give a trial, and then
    you have to pay. I have no need to use my phone as I have purchased
    their devices for both my 4 and 2 wheel rides. Once you have the
    device, you use their site for additional stuff like route planning,
    favorites, voices, etc. That's all free.


    Did you yet contact their technical support to get help on installing whatever it is you installed on your Windows 10 computer?

    https://help.tomtom.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015568919/

    I've not contacted them on my problem, but have done a bit of searching.
    Nothing much has come of it so far.

    I guess initially I thought a few of the clues I had might get one of
    our local gurus an idea of what has happened. I really have not
    provided much helpful information, mostly because I don't have any.
    This win 10 system works, the program did work before today, and now it
    just don't. I'll look at the VB6 thing and see if that might be the
    culprit. Please don't spend any more time on this. I just don't really
    have enough information to be helpful. But thanks for trying anyway.

    sticks

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to sticks on Thu Aug 3 21:33:42 2023
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install. I have used
    this before to update using the computers internet connection instead
    of wireless. Today, it said there was a mandatory update. Tried to
    do it and it said it was unable to complete and would open the update
    folder. This turned out to be the windows documents folder with
    nothing related to TomTom in it. It has worked on this computer
    before, so I uninstalled and reinstalled, even using
    windows/setting/apps to do the uninstall.

    So, it appears to install and then start up. It gets to showing the outskirts of the window and then just sits there. Right clicking in
    the taskbar on the program trying to open gives three options.
    TemMDC, Pin to taksbar, and close window.

    I tried excluding the folder in windows defender and also the process
    listed in the starting shortcut. Which brings a possibly related
    question. The only way I can get to the program is through this
    shortcut that gets created at install. There is nothing listed under
    the start menu. Seems odd to me. Any ideas on how to get past this
    and get it working again?

    https://mydrive.tomtom.com/

    That's a web site. You don't need to update your web browser to get
    something new at their web site. I didn't bother playing with it, but
    noticed there is a Login to get to your account. Can you login okay?

    Because I have Windows Updates disabled in my Windows 10 Home x64 22h2
    setup, I cannot use the Microsoft Store UWP app. So, I went to the web
    site at:

    https://apps.microsoft.com/store/apps

    and searched on "tomtom". No hits on an UWP app for TomTom. At:

    https://www.tomtom.com/en_us/navigation/

    under the "Apps" button, there is no MyDrive app. Other than the mydrive.tomtom.com web site (which is named "TomTom MyDrive", I can't
    find any app or program names "TomTom MyDrive".

    Ah, you asked in a Windows 10 newsgroup, but there is a TomTom MyDrive
    app for Android or iOS.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tomtom.mydrive.eu https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/tomtom-mydrive/id984450411?ls=1

    Since you asked in a Windows 10 newsgroup, no idea which mobile platform
    you are running their app. I have an Android phone registered in my
    Google account. When I go to the Android app page, I'm told "This app
    is not available for your device". Most likely it requires an Android
    version later than mine. I have Android 8.0.0. However, when I click
    on "About this app" in the app page, it then tells me "Compatibility
    with your active devices: LG V20 - Does not work on your device." Yet
    it notes the minimum Android version is 6.0. No clue why the Play Store
    thinks my Android 8 phone won't with the app that says Android 6 is the
    minimum OS version. Guess it doesn't like my phone's hardware.

    When you go to the Android or iOS app page, does it show the app is
    compatible with your phone?

    For an Android phone, that newsgroup is over at comp.mobile.android. I
    don't do Apple stuff, so I cannot suggest where to get help on their
    devices.

    If you're using the Android SDK (inside a VM), Bluestacks, or some other
    means of running an Android app inside an emulator running atop of
    Windows 10, you'll have to better state just how you are running an
    Android or iOS atop of Windows 10 (the topic of this newsgroup).

    For example, you said only the shortcut works to load the TomTom MyDrive
    app, but it's not listed in the Start menu. Well, if you were running Virtualbox to load the Android SDK emulator inside a virtual machine,
    you might also be using Virtualbox's taskbar. That hides that the app
    is loaded from within a VM that Vbox's taskbar shortcut points to. The
    app isn't installed in the host OS (Windows 10). The app is installed
    inside a guest OS (Android emulator) running inside a VM.

    Maybe I missed finding a TomTom MyDrive program (Win32) or app (UWP)
    that runs natively inside of Windows 10 (this newsgroup). If instead
    you are running the TomTom MyDrive app atop some emulator or inside some
    VM then you have to identify that setup. Before wasting time debugging
    why whatever setup you are using on Windows 10 fails, install the TomTom MyDrive app on your phone to see if it works there; i.e., run the native
    app on its target OS.

    Or maybe you gave the wrong product title. There is the TomTom MyDrive
    Connect (notice the addition of "Connect" to the product name) that
    installs on Windows or Mac.

    https://www.tomtom.com/en_us/navigation/mydrive-connect/

    There is no download link for their MyDrive *Connect* program.
    Apparently you have to log into an account with them before you can get
    that program.

    TomTom MyDrive could refer to:
    - Their mydrive.tomtom.com web site.
    - Their Android or iOS app.
    - Or to their Connect app, but you didn't mention "Connect".

    I've never used TomTom, because I thought you had to subscribe (pay) to
    use their services. If so, is your TomTom account still active?

    Did you yet contact their technical support to get help on installing
    whatever it is you installed on your Windows 10 computer?

    https://help.tomtom.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015568919/

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to sticks on Thu Aug 3 23:40:47 2023
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    On 8/3/2023 9:33 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install. I have used
    this before to update using the computers internet connection instead
    of wireless. Today, it said there was a mandatory update. Tried to
    do it and it said it was unable to complete and would open the update
    folder. This turned out to be the windows documents folder with
    nothing related to TomTom in it. It has worked on this computer
    before, so I uninstalled and reinstalled, even using
    windows/setting/apps to do the uninstall.

    So, it appears to install and then start up. It gets to showing the
    outskirts of the window and then just sits there. Right clicking in
    the taskbar on the program trying to open gives three options.
    TemMDC, Pin to taksbar, and close window.

    I tried excluding the folder in windows defender and also the process
    listed in the starting shortcut. Which brings a possibly related
    question. The only way I can get to the program is through this
    shortcut that gets created at install. There is nothing listed under
    the start menu. Seems odd to me. Any ideas on how to get past this
    and get it working again?

    https://mydrive.tomtom.com/

    That's a web site. You don't need to update your web browser to get
    something new at their web site. I didn't bother playing with it, but
    noticed there is a Login to get to your account. Can you login okay?

    Yes, that's where you go to download MyDrive Connect. That is the
    program I had installed and used in the past to update the GPS device
    via the computer instead of wireless. Today the program said it had to
    be updated before you could use it. That's where I'm stuck.

    I just tried the program on my other computer in the house and it too
    needed to be updated before use. I let it do so and it works just fine
    after being updated. Something got screwed up on the install on this computer. Both are windows 10 systems.

    One thing I recall that happened on this machine and not the one that
    works was a box displaying progress on something I think it said was
    visual basic related. It happened fast, and I'm not sure, but I think
    it was visual basic 6. I'll try to see if I can work on reinstalling
    that separately on the chance that got screwed up.

    Uninstalling and reinstalling MyDrive Connect hasn't shown that same VB6 stuff since the first time I tried today, and is getting me nowhere.

    ---snip---

    Ah, you asked in a Windows 10 newsgroup, but there is a TomTom MyDrive
    app for Android or iOS.

    ---snip---

    I do have their app on my Iphone, it works just as intended. I just
    don't use it for doing the big updates on the device, or any updates for
    that matter. It is fine for getting a quick route to the GPS device,
    but that's about all I use it for.


    For example, you said only the shortcut works to load the TomTom MyDrive
    app, but it's not listed in the Start menu. Well, if you were running
    Virtualbox

    Not running a virtual box. And the computer it does work on does have a listing for TomTom and I can run it from there using the start menu. It
    is odd that even when it did work before, I never had an entry for it in
    the start menu programs list.

    ---snip---

    There is no download link for their MyDrive *Connect* program.
    Apparently you have to log into an account with them before you can get
    that program.

    That is correct. I use this often and sign in regularly as I plot
    routes to take on the motorcycle. Like I say, it worked until today and
    the update attempt.

    I've never used TomTom, because I thought you had to subscribe (pay) to
    use their services. If so, is your TomTom account still active?

    You are correct I think that you do have to pay for their services if
    you use your phone as the device. I think they give a trial, and then
    you have to pay. I have no need to use my phone as I have purchased
    their devices for both my 4 and 2 wheel rides. Once you have the
    device, you use their site for additional stuff like route planning, favorites, voices, etc. That's all free.


    Did you yet contact their technical support to get help on installing
    whatever it is you installed on your Windows 10 computer?

    https://help.tomtom.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015568919/

    I've not contacted them on my problem, but have done a bit of searching.
    Nothing much has come of it so far.

    I guess initially I thought a few of the clues I had might get one of
    our local gurus an idea of what has happened. I really have not
    provided much helpful information, mostly because I don't have any.
    This win 10 system works, the program did work before today, and now it
    just don't. I'll look at the VB6 thing and see if that might be the
    culprit. Please don't spend any more time on this. I just don't really
    have enough information to be helpful. But thanks for trying anyway.

    sticks

    You sure it wasn't something about VC++ libraries? Some programs will
    install, if missing, the version of VC++ that they want to use. Having
    a newer version of VC++ won't work, because the programs expects
    behavior and functions available in an older version not available in a
    newer version. Some programs that rely on VC++ don't bother to install
    it. They assume the version they call has already been installed.

    As part of my initial setup of Windows, I install several versions of
    VC++, which are:

    VC++ Redistributables 2005 SP1
    VC++ Redistributables 2008
    VC++ Redistributables 2010 SP1
    VC++ Redistributables 2013
    VC++ Redistributables 2015-2017-2019
    VC++ Redistributables 2022

    See:

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170

    I downloaded these to archive with all my other downloads, because I
    have run into a problem that a problem that bundles a VC++ lib fails to recognize the version they want is already installed, and they step on
    the existing install to corrupt it, especially if the installer hangs or crashes.

    It's been a couple decades since I ran anything that needed the VB redistributables (libs). The last I remember of having to get a VB lib
    was for some video game, and that was over 20 years ago. I never
    bothered to download to keep the old VB lib packages since I haven't had
    an issue with VB for decades. Back then they weren't called VB
    distributables, but VB runtimes. I don't think the MyDrive Connect
    program is anywhere that old. VB6 is included in Win10 and 11; however,
    VB6 runtimes are 32-bit only, so all its components must be hosted in
    32-bit application processes. You noted using Windows 10, but not its
    bitwidth (32- or 64-bit). For Win10 x64, open Task Manager, open the
    Details tab, right-click on a header row, Select columns, and add the
    Platform column. Then you can see if an process is running as native
    64-bit, or as 32-bit encapsulated within the WOW64 compatibility layer.
    WOW32 allowed 16-bit programs to run on 32-bit Windows, and WOW64 allows
    32-bit programs to run on 64-bit Windows.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_on_Windows https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/visualstudio/visual-basic-6/visual-basic-6-support-policy

    When installing the MyDrive Connect program, are you letting the
    installer decide where to install, or are you picking the folder?
    32-bit programs get installed under C:\Program Files (x86), while 64-bit programs install under C:\Program Files. Or, if you pick the install
    folder, you could create your own, like C:\Programs, to install the
    program in a subfolder under there.

    Under "Windows Features", VB is not listed as a component you can remove
    or add, so you can't go there to remove and then replace the VB
    component(s). Possibly it is an optional component to select during a
    custom install of Windows.

    https://helpdesk.atril.com/hc/en-us/articles/205537331-How-to-re-install-the-Visual-Basic-6-Runtime

    If push comes to shove, you might have to install Visual Studio to get
    the VB runtime(s). There is a Community edition that is free; see:

    https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

    If you have to install VS, do a custom install to be sure the VB
    runtime(s) are included in the installation.

    I'd first contact TomTom's tech support to see what they say.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Fri Aug 4 02:27:12 2023
    On 8/4/2023 12:40 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    On 8/3/2023 9:33 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install. I have used
    this before to update using the computers internet connection instead
    of wireless. Today, it said there was a mandatory update. Tried to
    do it and it said it was unable to complete and would open the update
    folder. This turned out to be the windows documents folder with
    nothing related to TomTom in it. It has worked on this computer
    before, so I uninstalled and reinstalled, even using
    windows/setting/apps to do the uninstall.

    So, it appears to install and then start up. It gets to showing the
    outskirts of the window and then just sits there. Right clicking in
    the taskbar on the program trying to open gives three options.
    TemMDC, Pin to taksbar, and close window.

    I tried excluding the folder in windows defender and also the process
    listed in the starting shortcut. Which brings a possibly related
    question. The only way I can get to the program is through this
    shortcut that gets created at install. There is nothing listed under
    the start menu. Seems odd to me. Any ideas on how to get past this
    and get it working again?

    https://mydrive.tomtom.com/

    That's a web site. You don't need to update your web browser to get
    something new at their web site. I didn't bother playing with it, but
    noticed there is a Login to get to your account. Can you login okay?

    Yes, that's where you go to download MyDrive Connect. That is the
    program I had installed and used in the past to update the GPS device
    via the computer instead of wireless. Today the program said it had to
    be updated before you could use it. That's where I'm stuck.

    I just tried the program on my other computer in the house and it too
    needed to be updated before use. I let it do so and it works just fine
    after being updated. Something got screwed up on the install on this
    computer. Both are windows 10 systems.

    One thing I recall that happened on this machine and not the one that
    works was a box displaying progress on something I think it said was
    visual basic related. It happened fast, and I'm not sure, but I think
    it was visual basic 6. I'll try to see if I can work on reinstalling
    that separately on the chance that got screwed up.

    Uninstalling and reinstalling MyDrive Connect hasn't shown that same VB6
    stuff since the first time I tried today, and is getting me nowhere.

    ---snip---

    Ah, you asked in a Windows 10 newsgroup, but there is a TomTom MyDrive
    app for Android or iOS.

    ---snip---

    I do have their app on my Iphone, it works just as intended. I just
    don't use it for doing the big updates on the device, or any updates for
    that matter. It is fine for getting a quick route to the GPS device,
    but that's about all I use it for.


    For example, you said only the shortcut works to load the TomTom MyDrive >>> app, but it's not listed in the Start menu. Well, if you were running
    Virtualbox

    Not running a virtual box. And the computer it does work on does have a
    listing for TomTom and I can run it from there using the start menu. It
    is odd that even when it did work before, I never had an entry for it in
    the start menu programs list.

    ---snip---

    There is no download link for their MyDrive *Connect* program.
    Apparently you have to log into an account with them before you can get
    that program.

    That is correct. I use this often and sign in regularly as I plot
    routes to take on the motorcycle. Like I say, it worked until today and
    the update attempt.

    I've never used TomTom, because I thought you had to subscribe (pay) to
    use their services. If so, is your TomTom account still active?

    You are correct I think that you do have to pay for their services if
    you use your phone as the device. I think they give a trial, and then
    you have to pay. I have no need to use my phone as I have purchased
    their devices for both my 4 and 2 wheel rides. Once you have the
    device, you use their site for additional stuff like route planning,
    favorites, voices, etc. That's all free.


    Did you yet contact their technical support to get help on installing
    whatever it is you installed on your Windows 10 computer?

    https://help.tomtom.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015568919/

    I've not contacted them on my problem, but have done a bit of searching.
    Nothing much has come of it so far.

    I guess initially I thought a few of the clues I had might get one of
    our local gurus an idea of what has happened. I really have not
    provided much helpful information, mostly because I don't have any.
    This win 10 system works, the program did work before today, and now it
    just don't. I'll look at the VB6 thing and see if that might be the
    culprit. Please don't spend any more time on this. I just don't really
    have enough information to be helpful. But thanks for trying anyway.

    sticks

    You sure it wasn't something about VC++ libraries? Some programs will install, if missing, the version of VC++ that they want to use. Having
    a newer version of VC++ won't work, because the programs expects
    behavior and functions available in an older version not available in a
    newer version. Some programs that rely on VC++ don't bother to install
    it. They assume the version they call has already been installed.

    As part of my initial setup of Windows, I install several versions of
    VC++, which are:

    VC++ Redistributables 2005 SP1
    VC++ Redistributables 2008
    VC++ Redistributables 2010 SP1
    VC++ Redistributables 2013
    VC++ Redistributables 2015-2017-2019
    VC++ Redistributables 2022

    See:

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170

    I downloaded these to archive with all my other downloads, because I
    have run into a problem that a problem that bundles a VC++ lib fails to recognize the version they want is already installed, and they step on
    the existing install to corrupt it, especially if the installer hangs or crashes.

    It's been a couple decades since I ran anything that needed the VB redistributables (libs). The last I remember of having to get a VB lib
    was for some video game, and that was over 20 years ago. I never
    bothered to download to keep the old VB lib packages since I haven't had
    an issue with VB for decades. Back then they weren't called VB distributables, but VB runtimes. I don't think the MyDrive Connect
    program is anywhere that old. VB6 is included in Win10 and 11; however,
    VB6 runtimes are 32-bit only, so all its components must be hosted in
    32-bit application processes. You noted using Windows 10, but not its bitwidth (32- or 64-bit). For Win10 x64, open Task Manager, open the
    Details tab, right-click on a header row, Select columns, and add the Platform column. Then you can see if an process is running as native
    64-bit, or as 32-bit encapsulated within the WOW64 compatibility layer.
    WOW32 allowed 16-bit programs to run on 32-bit Windows, and WOW64 allows 32-bit programs to run on 64-bit Windows.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_on_Windows https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/visualstudio/visual-basic-6/visual-basic-6-support-policy

    When installing the MyDrive Connect program, are you letting the
    installer decide where to install, or are you picking the folder?
    32-bit programs get installed under C:\Program Files (x86), while 64-bit programs install under C:\Program Files. Or, if you pick the install
    folder, you could create your own, like C:\Programs, to install the
    program in a subfolder under there.

    Under "Windows Features", VB is not listed as a component you can remove
    or add, so you can't go there to remove and then replace the VB
    component(s). Possibly it is an optional component to select during a
    custom install of Windows.

    https://helpdesk.atril.com/hc/en-us/articles/205537331-How-to-re-install-the-Visual-Basic-6-Runtime

    If push comes to shove, you might have to install Visual Studio to get
    the VB runtime(s). There is a Community edition that is free; see:

    https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

    If you have to install VS, do a custom install to be sure the VB
    runtime(s) are included in the installation.

    I'd first contact TomTom's tech support to see what they say.


    https://help.tomtom.com/hc/en-ca/articles/360013959499-Installing-MyDrive-Connect

    # There is a link on the page for a download.

    https://cdn.sa.services.tomtom.com/static/sa/Windows/InstallTomTomMyDriveConnect.exe

    Name: InstallTomTomMyDriveConnect.exe
    Size: 72,345,312 bytes (68 MiB)
    SHA256: DC8973AF9D96F7DD913E0D92606AE6F0724B41C58C73B360CC7DC0E0EB66A460 <=== can use in virustotal.com "search"

    *******

    tree /F

    Folder PATH listing for volume RAMDrive
    Volume serial number is DA56-EBFC
    D:.
    │ d3dcompiler_47.dll
    │ DeviceController.dll
    │ DeviceDetection.dll
    │ DeviceNavEthernetCore.dll
    │ DeviceNavManager.dll
    │ e2fsck.exe
    │ ext2fs.dll <=== good file system choice for "no license fees" │ libcrypto-1_1.dll
    │ libEGL.dll
    │ libGLESv2.dll
    │ libssl-1_1.dll
    │ MDCDLLChecker.exe
    │ MDCLauncher.exe
    │ opengl32sw.dll
    │ qt.conf
    │ Qt5Core.dll <=== QT5 multi-platform engine (different engine, for each supported platform)
    │ Qt5Gui.dll <=== This is the Windows DLL set for QT5.
    │ Qt5Multimedia.dll
    │ Qt5MultimediaWidgets.dll
    │ Qt5Network.dll
    │ Qt5Positioning.dll
    │ Qt5PrintSupport.dll
    │ Qt5Qml.dll
    │ Qt5QmlModels.dll
    │ Qt5Quick.dll
    │ Qt5QuickWidgets.dll
    │ Qt5Sensors.dll
    │ Qt5Sql.dll
    │ Qt5Svg.dll
    │ Qt5WebChannel.dll
    │ Qt5WebEngineCore.dll
    │ Qt5WebEngineWidgets.dll
    │ Qt5WebSockets.dll
    │ Qt5Widgets.dll
    │ Qt5Xml.dll
    │ Qt5XmlPatterns.dll
    │ qtdiag.bat
    │ qtdiag.exe
    │ QtWebEngineProcess.exe
    │ quazip.dll
    │ TomTom MyDrive Connect.exe
    │ TomTomCacheCleanup.exe
    │ TomTomCommonUI.dll
    │ TomTomSupporterBase.dll
    │ TomTomSupporterCore.dll
    │ TomTomSupporterProxy.dll
    │ TTFS.dll
    │ UIController.dll
    │ UIWebControllerCore.dll
    │ Uninstall TomTom MyDrive Connect.exe
    │ zlib1.dll
    │
    ├───$PLUGINSDIR
    │ fct.dll
    │ KillProcDLL.dll
    │ liteFirewallW.dll
    │ modern-header.bmp
    │ nsDialogs.dll
    │ nsProcess.dll
    │ StdUtils.dll
    │ System.dll
    │ UAC.dll
    │ UserInfo.dll
    │ version.dll
    │
    ├───$TEMP
    │ $1
    │ VC_MergeModuleToMSI.msi
    │ VC_redist.x86.exe
    │
    ├───Driver
    │ ├───INF
    │ │ tomtom.inf
    │ │ ttrndis.cat
    │ │
    │ ├───win32
    │ │ DIFxAPI.dll
    │ │ DriverPreInstall.exe
    │ │ DriverUnInstall.exe
    │ │
    │ └───x64
    │ DIFxAPI.dll
    │ DriverPreInstall64.exe
    │ DriverUnInstall64.exe
    │
    ├───MyDriveConnectUpdater
    │ │ d3dcompiler_47.dll
    │ │ libEGL.dll
    │ │ libGLESV2.dll
    │ │ MyDriveConnectUpdater.exe
    │ │ opengl32sw.dll
    │ │ Qt5Core.dll
    │ │ Qt5Gui.dll
    │ │ Qt5Svg.dll
    │ │ Qt5Widgets.dll
    │ │ TomTomSupporterBase.dll
    │ │
    │ ├───iconengines
    │ │ qsvgicon.dll
    │ │
    │ ├───imageformats
    │ │ qgif.dll
    │ │ qicns.dll
    │ │ qico.dll
    │ │ qjpeg.dll
    │ │ qsvg.dll
    │ │ qtga.dll
    │ │ qtiff.dll
    │ │ qwbmp.dll
    │ │ qwebp.dll
    │ │
    │ ├───platforms
    │ │ qwindows.dll
    │ │
    │ └───translations
    │ qt_en.qm # similar files... removed from list
    │
    ├───Plugins
    │ │ DeviceNavEthernetManager.dll
    │ │ DeviceNavEthernetV5Manager.dll
    │ │ DeviceNavEthernetV6Manager.dll
    │ │ DeviceNavInDashV3Manager.dll
    │ │ UIWebkitController.dll
    │ │
    │ ├───bearer
    │ │ qgenericbearer.dll
    │ │
    │ ├───iconengines
    │ │ qsvgicon.dll
    │ │
    │ ├───imageformats
    │ │ qgif.dll
    │ │ qicns.dll
    │ │ qico.dll
    │ │ qjpeg.dll
    │ │ qsvg.dll
    │ │ qtga.dll
    │ │ qtiff.dll
    │ │ qwbmp.dll
    │ │ qwebp.dll
    │ │
    │ └───platforms
    │ qwindows.dll
    │
    ├───Resources
    │ application.ini
    │ Configuration.xml
    │ icudtl.dat
    │ index.html
    │ qtwebengine_resources.pak
    │ qtwebengine_resources_100p.pak
    │ qtwebengine_resources_200p.pak
    │ socket-proxy.min.js
    │ TT_root_sign_cert crt.dat
    │
    ├───styles
    │ qwindowsvistastyle.dll
    │
    ├───translations
    │ │ qt_en.qm # similar files... removed from list
    │ │
    │ └───qtwebengine_locales
    │ en-GB.pak # similar files... removed from list
    │
    └───vcredist
    VC_redist.x86.exe <=== Installing just the 32-bit version of visual studio, version info below.

    Details of the vcredist installation file. It is the
    multi-version, which was created for multiple versions
    of Visual Studio. And would be appropriate for their
    usage of Visual Studio within that rough date range.
    This file should also be available from a Microsoft page,
    and if it was installed, the TomTom installer should have
    logic to not bother installing it a second time (or, removing
    an even more modern version of the file than 2/28/2020 as shown).

    Name: VC_redist.x86.exe
    Size: 14,364,440 bytes (13 MiB)
    SHA256: E59AE3E886BD4571A811FE31A47959AE5C40D87C583F786816C60440252CD7EC

    Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2019 Redistributable
    14.24.28127.4
    2/28/2020 3:18AM
    English (United States)

    The above Tree prepared by using 7ZIP on the EXE file, and
    unpacking the EXE contents. 7ZIP most likely did this (I can't
    be sure), as...

    1) Spots SFX style segment in the PE32 executable.
    2) Walks past it.
    3) Parses the declarative material after that, its own self.
    4) Now it can unpack the contents.
    (Running the file, would likely have started self-extraction anyway,
    which I did not test, as I'd probably use a VM for that.)

    Apparently, there is a "Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable"
    and I don't know the logic when both these kinds of files are present.
    Or how a TomTom installer that doesn't know about that version,
    would handle finding such already installed/listed in Programs&Features.

    Presumably, a program would be "satisfied" if it finds the "minimum"
    version of the runtime DLLs on the machine. But it's how the installer
    errors out, which is the issue for the OP right now, rather than the
    install finishing, but the QT5 package not being able to run.

    In theory, you can place the unpacked redist DLLs in the final install
    folder, if you wanted. But the program is also supposed to be able to
    pick something like that up, from some system folder. That's why they
    run the EXE for it.

    All very messy, and not something I know all the details of. I just
    do like everyone else, "keep installing shit until it stops complaining" :-)

    The system was more understandable... until they started using that multi-version idea. That is when I kinda lost the thread. Maybe they're
    all considered to be VS14 or something, I don't know. What is important
    though, is for the damn installer to get past that point and finish
    the rest of the installation for the OP. Some of these installers
    do the VS redistributable in the middle of an install, which is...
    not a good place to be doing it. If it was done at the very end, it
    could fail more gracefully (the user could clean up the mess by
    "installing more shit", just like the old days).

    Paul

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Shinji Ikari@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Aug 4 09:32:12 2023
    Hello.

    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> schrieb

    New maps, for
    example. It will connect to my wireless connection to do updates.
    Problem is this is a motorcycle GPS and out in my garage.
    So what is this garage computer?  Does it use the wired connection?
    Sorry if I am not explaining this properly. I do not have a wireless
    access point in the garage. I have a Cat6 cable hard wired to my garage

    Then get an AccessPoint, attach it to the CAT6 cable, link the TomTom
    to the AP and be happy.
    If you don't use the AP, you disconnect it and put it in the drawer.
    That seems to be the easiest way.
    Simple AP are really cheap.

    I prefer the easy WiFi Updates with my TomTom G06200.
    Just plug power and tap for updates and it does everything itself.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Fri Aug 4 19:07:11 2023
    On 8/4/2023 6:41 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 8/4/2023 12:40 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    On 8/3/2023 9:33 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install. I have used >>>>>> this before to update using the computers internet connection instead >>>>>> of wireless. Today, it said there was a mandatory update. Tried to >>>>>> do it and it said it was unable to complete and would open the update >>>>>> folder. This turned out to be the windows documents folder with
    nothing related to TomTom in it. It has worked on this computer
    before, so I uninstalled and reinstalled, even using
    windows/setting/apps to do the uninstall.

    So, it appears to install and then start up. It gets to showing the >>>>>> outskirts of the window and then just sits there. Right clicking in >>>>>> the taskbar on the program trying to open gives three options.
    TemMDC, Pin to taksbar, and close window.

    I tried excluding the folder in windows defender and also the process >>>>>> listed in the starting shortcut. Which brings a possibly related
    question. The only way I can get to the program is through this
    shortcut that gets created at install. There is nothing listed under >>>>>> the start menu. Seems odd to me. Any ideas on how to get past this >>>>>> and get it working again?

    https://mydrive.tomtom.com/

    That's a web site. You don't need to update your web browser to get >>>>> something new at their web site. I didn't bother playing with it, but >>>>> noticed there is a Login to get to your account. Can you login okay? >>>>
    Yes, that's where you go to download MyDrive Connect. That is the
    program I had installed and used in the past to update the GPS device
    via the computer instead of wireless. Today the program said it had to >>>> be updated before you could use it. That's where I'm stuck.

    I just tried the program on my other computer in the house and it too
    needed to be updated before use. I let it do so and it works just fine >>>> after being updated. Something got screwed up on the install on this
    computer. Both are windows 10 systems.

    One thing I recall that happened on this machine and not the one that
    works was a box displaying progress on something I think it said was
    visual basic related. It happened fast, and I'm not sure, but I think >>>> it was visual basic 6. I'll try to see if I can work on reinstalling
    that separately on the chance that got screwed up.

    Uninstalling and reinstalling MyDrive Connect hasn't shown that same VB6 >>>> stuff since the first time I tried today, and is getting me nowhere.

    ---snip---

    Ah, you asked in a Windows 10 newsgroup, but there is a TomTom MyDrive >>>>> app for Android or iOS.

    ---snip---

    I do have their app on my Iphone, it works just as intended. I just
    don't use it for doing the big updates on the device, or any updates for >>>> that matter. It is fine for getting a quick route to the GPS device,
    but that's about all I use it for.


    For example, you said only the shortcut works to load the TomTom MyDrive >>>>> app, but it's not listed in the Start menu. Well, if you were running >>>>> Virtualbox

    Not running a virtual box. And the computer it does work on does have a >>>> listing for TomTom and I can run it from there using the start menu. It >>>> is odd that even when it did work before, I never had an entry for it in >>>> the start menu programs list.

    ---snip---

    There is no download link for their MyDrive *Connect* program.
    Apparently you have to log into an account with them before you can get >>>>> that program.

    That is correct. I use this often and sign in regularly as I plot
    routes to take on the motorcycle. Like I say, it worked until today and >>>> the update attempt.

    I've never used TomTom, because I thought you had to subscribe (pay) to >>>>> use their services. If so, is your TomTom account still active?

    You are correct I think that you do have to pay for their services if
    you use your phone as the device. I think they give a trial, and then >>>> you have to pay. I have no need to use my phone as I have purchased
    their devices for both my 4 and 2 wheel rides. Once you have the
    device, you use their site for additional stuff like route planning,
    favorites, voices, etc. That's all free.


    Did you yet contact their technical support to get help on installing >>>>> whatever it is you installed on your Windows 10 computer?

    https://help.tomtom.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015568919/

    I've not contacted them on my problem, but have done a bit of searching. >>>> Nothing much has come of it so far.

    I guess initially I thought a few of the clues I had might get one of
    our local gurus an idea of what has happened. I really have not
    provided much helpful information, mostly because I don't have any.
    This win 10 system works, the program did work before today, and now it >>>> just don't. I'll look at the VB6 thing and see if that might be the
    culprit. Please don't spend any more time on this. I just don't really >>>> have enough information to be helpful. But thanks for trying anyway.

    sticks

    You sure it wasn't something about VC++ libraries? Some programs will
    install, if missing, the version of VC++ that they want to use. Having
    a newer version of VC++ won't work, because the programs expects
    behavior and functions available in an older version not available in a
    newer version. Some programs that rely on VC++ don't bother to install
    it. They assume the version they call has already been installed.

    As part of my initial setup of Windows, I install several versions of
    VC++, which are:

    VC++ Redistributables 2005 SP1
    VC++ Redistributables 2008
    VC++ Redistributables 2010 SP1
    VC++ Redistributables 2013
    VC++ Redistributables 2015-2017-2019
    VC++ Redistributables 2022

    See:

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170

    I downloaded these to archive with all my other downloads, because I
    have run into a problem that a problem that bundles a VC++ lib fails to
    recognize the version they want is already installed, and they step on
    the existing install to corrupt it, especially if the installer hangs or >>> crashes.

    It's been a couple decades since I ran anything that needed the VB
    redistributables (libs). The last I remember of having to get a VB lib
    was for some video game, and that was over 20 years ago. I never
    bothered to download to keep the old VB lib packages since I haven't had >>> an issue with VB for decades. Back then they weren't called VB
    distributables, but VB runtimes. I don't think the MyDrive Connect
    program is anywhere that old. VB6 is included in Win10 and 11; however, >>> VB6 runtimes are 32-bit only, so all its components must be hosted in
    32-bit application processes. You noted using Windows 10, but not its
    bitwidth (32- or 64-bit). For Win10 x64, open Task Manager, open the
    Details tab, right-click on a header row, Select columns, and add the
    Platform column. Then you can see if an process is running as native
    64-bit, or as 32-bit encapsulated within the WOW64 compatibility layer.
    WOW32 allowed 16-bit programs to run on 32-bit Windows, and WOW64 allows >>> 32-bit programs to run on 64-bit Windows.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_on_Windows
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/visualstudio/visual-basic-6/visual-basic-6-support-policy

    When installing the MyDrive Connect program, are you letting the
    installer decide where to install, or are you picking the folder?
    32-bit programs get installed under C:\Program Files (x86), while 64-bit >>> programs install under C:\Program Files. Or, if you pick the install
    folder, you could create your own, like C:\Programs, to install the
    program in a subfolder under there.

    Under "Windows Features", VB is not listed as a component you can remove >>> or add, so you can't go there to remove and then replace the VB
    component(s). Possibly it is an optional component to select during a
    custom install of Windows.

    https://helpdesk.atril.com/hc/en-us/articles/205537331-How-to-re-install-the-Visual-Basic-6-Runtime

    If push comes to shove, you might have to install Visual Studio to get
    the VB runtime(s). There is a Community edition that is free; see:

    https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

    If you have to install VS, do a custom install to be sure the VB
    runtime(s) are included in the installation.

    I'd first contact TomTom's tech support to see what they say.


    https://help.tomtom.com/hc/en-ca/articles/360013959499-Installing-MyDrive-Connect

    That article speaks of using Internet Explorer. Microsoft took their
    time gradually yanking away IE, but that the TomTom article mentions
    using IE dates that article as ancient. But then the QT5 files for
    QuickTime v5 released in April 2001 were replaced by Quicktime 6 back in
    July 2002. While products take a while to switch to a later version of
    a media library, over 10 years is way too long for any current product
    to be using QT5.


    # There is a link on the page for a download.

    https://cdn.sa.services.tomtom.com/static/sa/Windows/InstallTomTomMyDriveConnect.exe

    Name: InstallTomTomMyDriveConnect.exe
    Size: 72,345,312 bytes (68 MiB)
    SHA256: DC8973AF9D96F7DD913E0D92606AE6F0724B41C58C73B360CC7DC0E0EB66A460 <=== can use in virustotal.com "search"

    *******

    tree /F

    Folder PATH listing for volume RAMDrive
    Volume serial number is DA56-EBFC
    D:.
    │ d3dcompiler_47.dll
    │ DeviceController.dll
    │ DeviceDetection.dll
    │ DeviceNavEthernetCore.dll
    │ DeviceNavManager.dll
    │ e2fsck.exe
    │ ext2fs.dll <=== good file system choice for "no license fees" >> │ libcrypto-1_1.dll
    │ libEGL.dll
    │ libGLESv2.dll
    │ libssl-1_1.dll
    │ MDCDLLChecker.exe
    │ MDCLauncher.exe
    │ opengl32sw.dll
    │ qt.conf
    │ Qt5Core.dll <=== QT5 multi-platform engine (different engine, for each supported platform)
    │ Qt5Gui.dll <=== This is the Windows DLL set for QT5.
    │ Qt5Multimedia.dll
    │ Qt5MultimediaWidgets.dll
    │ Qt5Network.dll
    │ Qt5Positioning.dll
    │ Qt5PrintSupport.dll
    │ Qt5Qml.dll
    │ Qt5QmlModels.dll
    │ Qt5Quick.dll
    │ Qt5QuickWidgets.dll
    │ Qt5Sensors.dll
    │ Qt5Sql.dll
    │ Qt5Svg.dll
    │ Qt5WebChannel.dll
    │ Qt5WebEngineCore.dll
    │ Qt5WebEngineWidgets.dll
    │ Qt5WebSockets.dll
    │ Qt5Widgets.dll
    │ Qt5Xml.dll
    │ Qt5XmlPatterns.dll
    │ qtdiag.bat
    │ qtdiag.exe
    │ QtWebEngineProcess.exe
    :
    :
    <snipped>

    I thought QuickTime died a long time ago. Must've been back when I
    played some old video games for when I had to have it.

    https://support.apple.com/downloads/quicktime

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime
    "QuickTime is a discontinued extensible multimedia architecture created
    by Apple, ... and was available for download on Windows until 2016."

    https://moviemaker.minitool.com/moviemaker/quicktime-alternative.html
    "Apple has released QuickTime version for Windows, but in 2016 it discontinued support for the Windows version of QuickTime. And in 2018,
    Apple discontinued support for the QuickTime 7 on macOS."

    With references to Internet Explorer, and using QuickTime5, I have to
    wonder if the TomTom MyDrive Connect is an old program that TomTom
    dropped, but neglected to delete their old web help page and downloads.

    What's the datestamps on the files inside that .exe file? With what did
    you extract the files from the .exe installer file?

    From what I've found online, the latest version of TomTom MyDrive
    Connect is 4.2.10.4148, and was released back on Oct 5, 2020. That's
    over 2 years ago while QT5 got dropped over 20 years ago.


    Qt5 is not QuickTime.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28software%29

    Qt is a cross-platform framework for writing software.
    You write one runtime. The Qt5 framework allows it to run
    on Mac, Linux, Windows. The collection of DLL or .so files
    and so on, these provide services on the platform Qt is adapting.

    Think of it as Java, but for another language, and done as a framework,
    rather than a complete vertical language.

    The IceCream Company in Cyprus, uses FOSS software and uses the
    Qt5 framework as a means to run the FOSS software on Windows.
    They still write a smaller amount of "unique" software, but much
    of the library support is FOSS. The installers end up bloated
    (100MB download for a simple program is not unusual). Just
    the language module (so you can have translations of your interface
    words), is 20MB of code just for that. The language support is
    one of the larger modules.

    For graphics, OpenGL is a good choice. And maybe some day, it'll
    all be Vulkan and/or Metal. But in Qt4 version, it was probably only
    OpenGL there (a 3D graphics interface available on Linux, Windows, Mac).
    OpenGL was how some of the game ports I used to play on Mac, got ported.

    Paul

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri Aug 4 17:41:06 2023
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 8/4/2023 12:40 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    On 8/3/2023 9:33 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install. I have used >>>>> this before to update using the computers internet connection instead >>>>> of wireless. Today, it said there was a mandatory update. Tried to >>>>> do it and it said it was unable to complete and would open the update >>>>> folder. This turned out to be the windows documents folder with
    nothing related to TomTom in it. It has worked on this computer
    before, so I uninstalled and reinstalled, even using
    windows/setting/apps to do the uninstall.

    So, it appears to install and then start up. It gets to showing the >>>>> outskirts of the window and then just sits there. Right clicking in >>>>> the taskbar on the program trying to open gives three options.
    TemMDC, Pin to taksbar, and close window.

    I tried excluding the folder in windows defender and also the process >>>>> listed in the starting shortcut. Which brings a possibly related
    question. The only way I can get to the program is through this
    shortcut that gets created at install. There is nothing listed under >>>>> the start menu. Seems odd to me. Any ideas on how to get past this >>>>> and get it working again?

    https://mydrive.tomtom.com/

    That's a web site. You don't need to update your web browser to get
    something new at their web site. I didn't bother playing with it, but >>>> noticed there is a Login to get to your account. Can you login okay?

    Yes, that's where you go to download MyDrive Connect. That is the
    program I had installed and used in the past to update the GPS device
    via the computer instead of wireless. Today the program said it had to
    be updated before you could use it. That's where I'm stuck.

    I just tried the program on my other computer in the house and it too
    needed to be updated before use. I let it do so and it works just fine
    after being updated. Something got screwed up on the install on this
    computer. Both are windows 10 systems.

    One thing I recall that happened on this machine and not the one that
    works was a box displaying progress on something I think it said was
    visual basic related. It happened fast, and I'm not sure, but I think
    it was visual basic 6. I'll try to see if I can work on reinstalling
    that separately on the chance that got screwed up.

    Uninstalling and reinstalling MyDrive Connect hasn't shown that same VB6 >>> stuff since the first time I tried today, and is getting me nowhere.

    ---snip---

    Ah, you asked in a Windows 10 newsgroup, but there is a TomTom MyDrive >>>> app for Android or iOS.

    ---snip---

    I do have their app on my Iphone, it works just as intended. I just
    don't use it for doing the big updates on the device, or any updates for >>> that matter. It is fine for getting a quick route to the GPS device,
    but that's about all I use it for.


    For example, you said only the shortcut works to load the TomTom MyDrive >>>> app, but it's not listed in the Start menu. Well, if you were running >>>> Virtualbox

    Not running a virtual box. And the computer it does work on does have a >>> listing for TomTom and I can run it from there using the start menu. It >>> is odd that even when it did work before, I never had an entry for it in >>> the start menu programs list.

    ---snip---

    There is no download link for their MyDrive *Connect* program.
    Apparently you have to log into an account with them before you can get >>>> that program.

    That is correct. I use this often and sign in regularly as I plot
    routes to take on the motorcycle. Like I say, it worked until today and >>> the update attempt.

    I've never used TomTom, because I thought you had to subscribe (pay) to >>>> use their services. If so, is your TomTom account still active?

    You are correct I think that you do have to pay for their services if
    you use your phone as the device. I think they give a trial, and then
    you have to pay. I have no need to use my phone as I have purchased
    their devices for both my 4 and 2 wheel rides. Once you have the
    device, you use their site for additional stuff like route planning,
    favorites, voices, etc. That's all free.


    Did you yet contact their technical support to get help on installing
    whatever it is you installed on your Windows 10 computer?

    https://help.tomtom.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015568919/

    I've not contacted them on my problem, but have done a bit of searching. >>> Nothing much has come of it so far.

    I guess initially I thought a few of the clues I had might get one of
    our local gurus an idea of what has happened. I really have not
    provided much helpful information, mostly because I don't have any.
    This win 10 system works, the program did work before today, and now it
    just don't. I'll look at the VB6 thing and see if that might be the
    culprit. Please don't spend any more time on this. I just don't really >>> have enough information to be helpful. But thanks for trying anyway.

    sticks

    You sure it wasn't something about VC++ libraries? Some programs will
    install, if missing, the version of VC++ that they want to use. Having
    a newer version of VC++ won't work, because the programs expects
    behavior and functions available in an older version not available in a
    newer version. Some programs that rely on VC++ don't bother to install
    it. They assume the version they call has already been installed.

    As part of my initial setup of Windows, I install several versions of
    VC++, which are:

    VC++ Redistributables 2005 SP1
    VC++ Redistributables 2008
    VC++ Redistributables 2010 SP1
    VC++ Redistributables 2013
    VC++ Redistributables 2015-2017-2019
    VC++ Redistributables 2022

    See:

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170

    I downloaded these to archive with all my other downloads, because I
    have run into a problem that a problem that bundles a VC++ lib fails to
    recognize the version they want is already installed, and they step on
    the existing install to corrupt it, especially if the installer hangs or
    crashes.

    It's been a couple decades since I ran anything that needed the VB
    redistributables (libs). The last I remember of having to get a VB lib
    was for some video game, and that was over 20 years ago. I never
    bothered to download to keep the old VB lib packages since I haven't had
    an issue with VB for decades. Back then they weren't called VB
    distributables, but VB runtimes. I don't think the MyDrive Connect
    program is anywhere that old. VB6 is included in Win10 and 11; however,
    VB6 runtimes are 32-bit only, so all its components must be hosted in
    32-bit application processes. You noted using Windows 10, but not its
    bitwidth (32- or 64-bit). For Win10 x64, open Task Manager, open the
    Details tab, right-click on a header row, Select columns, and add the
    Platform column. Then you can see if an process is running as native
    64-bit, or as 32-bit encapsulated within the WOW64 compatibility layer.
    WOW32 allowed 16-bit programs to run on 32-bit Windows, and WOW64 allows
    32-bit programs to run on 64-bit Windows.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_on_Windows
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/visualstudio/visual-basic-6/visual-basic-6-support-policy

    When installing the MyDrive Connect program, are you letting the
    installer decide where to install, or are you picking the folder?
    32-bit programs get installed under C:\Program Files (x86), while 64-bit
    programs install under C:\Program Files. Or, if you pick the install
    folder, you could create your own, like C:\Programs, to install the
    program in a subfolder under there.

    Under "Windows Features", VB is not listed as a component you can remove
    or add, so you can't go there to remove and then replace the VB
    component(s). Possibly it is an optional component to select during a
    custom install of Windows.

    https://helpdesk.atril.com/hc/en-us/articles/205537331-How-to-re-install-the-Visual-Basic-6-Runtime

    If push comes to shove, you might have to install Visual Studio to get
    the VB runtime(s). There is a Community edition that is free; see:

    https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

    If you have to install VS, do a custom install to be sure the VB
    runtime(s) are included in the installation.

    I'd first contact TomTom's tech support to see what they say.


    https://help.tomtom.com/hc/en-ca/articles/360013959499-Installing-MyDrive-Connect

    That article speaks of using Internet Explorer. Microsoft took their
    time gradually yanking away IE, but that the TomTom article mentions
    using IE dates that article as ancient. But then the QT5 files for
    QuickTime v5 released in April 2001 were replaced by Quicktime 6 back in
    July 2002. While products take a while to switch to a later version of
    a media library, over 10 years is way too long for any current product
    to be using QT5.


    # There is a link on the page for a download.

    https://cdn.sa.services.tomtom.com/static/sa/Windows/InstallTomTomMyDriveConnect.exe

    Name: InstallTomTomMyDriveConnect.exe
    Size: 72,345,312 bytes (68 MiB)
    SHA256: DC8973AF9D96F7DD913E0D92606AE6F0724B41C58C73B360CC7DC0E0EB66A460 <=== can use in virustotal.com "search"

    *******

    tree /F

    Folder PATH listing for volume RAMDrive
    Volume serial number is DA56-EBFC
    D:.
    │ d3dcompiler_47.dll
    │ DeviceController.dll
    │ DeviceDetection.dll
    │ DeviceNavEthernetCore.dll
    │ DeviceNavManager.dll
    │ e2fsck.exe
    │ ext2fs.dll <=== good file system choice for "no license fees" │ libcrypto-1_1.dll
    │ libEGL.dll
    │ libGLESv2.dll
    │ libssl-1_1.dll
    │ MDCDLLChecker.exe
    │ MDCLauncher.exe
    │ opengl32sw.dll
    │ qt.conf
    │ Qt5Core.dll <=== QT5 multi-platform engine (different engine, for each supported platform)
    │ Qt5Gui.dll <=== This is the Windows DLL set for QT5.
    │ Qt5Multimedia.dll
    │ Qt5MultimediaWidgets.dll
    │ Qt5Network.dll
    │ Qt5Positioning.dll
    │ Qt5PrintSupport.dll
    │ Qt5Qml.dll
    │ Qt5QmlModels.dll
    │ Qt5Quick.dll
    │ Qt5QuickWidgets.dll
    │ Qt5Sensors.dll
    │ Qt5Sql.dll
    │ Qt5Svg.dll
    │ Qt5WebChannel.dll
    │ Qt5WebEngineCore.dll
    │ Qt5WebEngineWidgets.dll
    │ Qt5WebSockets.dll
    │ Qt5Widgets.dll
    │ Qt5Xml.dll
    │ Qt5XmlPatterns.dll
    │ qtdiag.bat
    │ qtdiag.exe
    │ QtWebEngineProcess.exe
    :
    :
    <snipped>

    I thought QuickTime died a long time ago. Must've been back when I
    played some old video games for when I had to have it.

    https://support.apple.com/downloads/quicktime

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime
    "QuickTime is a discontinued extensible multimedia architecture created
    by Apple, ... and was available for download on Windows until 2016."

    https://moviemaker.minitool.com/moviemaker/quicktime-alternative.html
    "Apple has released QuickTime version for Windows, but in 2016 it
    discontinued support for the Windows version of QuickTime. And in 2018,
    Apple discontinued support for the QuickTime 7 on macOS."

    With references to Internet Explorer, and using QuickTime5, I have to
    wonder if the TomTom MyDrive Connect is an old program that TomTom
    dropped, but neglected to delete their old web help page and downloads.

    What's the datestamps on the files inside that .exe file? With what did
    you extract the files from the .exe installer file?

    From what I've found online, the latest version of TomTom MyDrive
    Connect is 4.2.10.4148, and was released back on Oct 5, 2020. That's
    over 2 years ago while QT5 got dropped over 20 years ago.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri Aug 4 19:39:13 2023
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    I thought QuickTime died a long time ago.

    Qt5 is not QuickTime.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28software%29

    Ah, my bad. Like seeing "KISS" and mistaking it for the band instead of
    the acronym.

    https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/windows-deployment.html
    "For Windows desktop applications, the required runtime files for the
    compiler are also copied to the deployable folder by default (unless the
    option --no-compiler-runtime is specified)."

    So, we might be back to having to [re]install [stepping atop the
    existing installs of] the C++ runtimes if TomTom didn't include them, or corrupted them. I didn't bother to check which C++ runtime versions are
    needed for which version of QT for what the app calls. I'd probably
    just reinstall all the runtimes to make sure they're complete and
    correct from the MS installers for them.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Fri Aug 4 19:48:59 2023
    On 8/4/2023 7:39 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    I thought QuickTime died a long time ago.

    Qt5 is not QuickTime.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28software%29

    Ah, my bad. Like seeing "KISS" and mistaking it for the band instead of
    the acronym.

    https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/windows-deployment.html
    "For Windows desktop applications, the required runtime files for the compiler are also copied to the deployable folder by default (unless the option --no-compiler-runtime is specified)."

    So, we might be back to having to [re]install [stepping atop the
    existing installs of] the C++ runtimes if TomTom didn't include them, or corrupted them. I didn't bother to check which C++ runtime versions are needed for which version of QT for what the app calls. I'd probably
    just reinstall all the runtimes to make sure they're complete and
    correct from the MS installers for them.

    I'll try that in the morning, but I think they use the same file already mentioned that MS does.

    Below from another post of yours
    From what I've found online, the latest version of TomTom MyDrive
    Connect is 4.2.10.4148, and was released back on Oct 5, 2020. That's
    over 2 years ago while QT5 got dropped over 20 years ago.

    The MyDrive version I'm installing is 5.3.6.5021

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri Aug 4 19:44:23 2023
    On 8/4/2023 1:27 AM, Paul wrote:
    On 8/4/2023 12:40 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    On 8/3/2023 9:33 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install. I have used >>>>> this before to update using the computers internet connection instead >>>>> of wireless. Today, it said there was a mandatory update. Tried to >>>>> do it and it said it was unable to complete and would open the update >>>>> folder. This turned out to be the windows documents folder with
    nothing related to TomTom in it. It has worked on this computer
    before, so I uninstalled and reinstalled, even using
    windows/setting/apps to do the uninstall.

    So, it appears to install and then start up. It gets to showing the >>>>> outskirts of the window and then just sits there. Right clicking in >>>>> the taskbar on the program trying to open gives three options.
    TemMDC, Pin to taksbar, and close window.

    I tried excluding the folder in windows defender and also the process >>>>> listed in the starting shortcut. Which brings a possibly related
    question. The only way I can get to the program is through this
    shortcut that gets created at install. There is nothing listed under >>>>> the start menu. Seems odd to me. Any ideas on how to get past this >>>>> and get it working again?

    https://mydrive.tomtom.com/

    That's a web site. You don't need to update your web browser to get
    something new at their web site. I didn't bother playing with it, but >>>> noticed there is a Login to get to your account. Can you login okay?

    Yes, that's where you go to download MyDrive Connect. That is the
    program I had installed and used in the past to update the GPS device
    via the computer instead of wireless. Today the program said it had to
    be updated before you could use it. That's where I'm stuck.

    I just tried the program on my other computer in the house and it too
    needed to be updated before use. I let it do so and it works just fine
    after being updated. Something got screwed up on the install on this
    computer. Both are windows 10 systems.

    One thing I recall that happened on this machine and not the one that
    works was a box displaying progress on something I think it said was
    visual basic related. It happened fast, and I'm not sure, but I think
    it was visual basic 6. I'll try to see if I can work on reinstalling
    that separately on the chance that got screwed up.

    Uninstalling and reinstalling MyDrive Connect hasn't shown that same VB6 >>> stuff since the first time I tried today, and is getting me nowhere.

    ---snip---

    Ah, you asked in a Windows 10 newsgroup, but there is a TomTom MyDrive >>>> app for Android or iOS.

    ---snip---

    I do have their app on my Iphone, it works just as intended. I just
    don't use it for doing the big updates on the device, or any updates for >>> that matter. It is fine for getting a quick route to the GPS device,
    but that's about all I use it for.


    For example, you said only the shortcut works to load the TomTom MyDrive >>>> app, but it's not listed in the Start menu. Well, if you were running >>>> Virtualbox

    Not running a virtual box. And the computer it does work on does have a >>> listing for TomTom and I can run it from there using the start menu. It >>> is odd that even when it did work before, I never had an entry for it in >>> the start menu programs list.

    ---snip---

    There is no download link for their MyDrive *Connect* program.
    Apparently you have to log into an account with them before you can get >>>> that program.

    That is correct. I use this often and sign in regularly as I plot
    routes to take on the motorcycle. Like I say, it worked until today and >>> the update attempt.

    I've never used TomTom, because I thought you had to subscribe (pay) to >>>> use their services. If so, is your TomTom account still active?

    You are correct I think that you do have to pay for their services if
    you use your phone as the device. I think they give a trial, and then
    you have to pay. I have no need to use my phone as I have purchased
    their devices for both my 4 and 2 wheel rides. Once you have the
    device, you use their site for additional stuff like route planning,
    favorites, voices, etc. That's all free.


    Did you yet contact their technical support to get help on installing
    whatever it is you installed on your Windows 10 computer?

    https://help.tomtom.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015568919/

    I've not contacted them on my problem, but have done a bit of searching. >>> Nothing much has come of it so far.

    I guess initially I thought a few of the clues I had might get one of
    our local gurus an idea of what has happened. I really have not
    provided much helpful information, mostly because I don't have any.
    This win 10 system works, the program did work before today, and now it
    just don't. I'll look at the VB6 thing and see if that might be the
    culprit. Please don't spend any more time on this. I just don't really >>> have enough information to be helpful. But thanks for trying anyway.

    sticks

    You sure it wasn't something about VC++ libraries? Some programs will
    install, if missing, the version of VC++ that they want to use. Having
    a newer version of VC++ won't work, because the programs expects
    behavior and functions available in an older version not available in a
    newer version. Some programs that rely on VC++ don't bother to install
    it. They assume the version they call has already been installed.

    As part of my initial setup of Windows, I install several versions of
    VC++, which are:

    VC++ Redistributables 2005 SP1
    VC++ Redistributables 2008
    VC++ Redistributables 2010 SP1
    VC++ Redistributables 2013
    VC++ Redistributables 2015-2017-2019
    VC++ Redistributables 2022

    See:

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170

    I downloaded these to archive with all my other downloads, because I
    have run into a problem that a problem that bundles a VC++ lib fails to
    recognize the version they want is already installed, and they step on
    the existing install to corrupt it, especially if the installer hangs or
    crashes.

    It's been a couple decades since I ran anything that needed the VB
    redistributables (libs). The last I remember of having to get a VB lib
    was for some video game, and that was over 20 years ago. I never
    bothered to download to keep the old VB lib packages since I haven't had
    an issue with VB for decades. Back then they weren't called VB
    distributables, but VB runtimes. I don't think the MyDrive Connect
    program is anywhere that old. VB6 is included in Win10 and 11; however,
    VB6 runtimes are 32-bit only, so all its components must be hosted in
    32-bit application processes. You noted using Windows 10, but not its
    bitwidth (32- or 64-bit). For Win10 x64, open Task Manager, open the
    Details tab, right-click on a header row, Select columns, and add the
    Platform column. Then you can see if an process is running as native
    64-bit, or as 32-bit encapsulated within the WOW64 compatibility layer.
    WOW32 allowed 16-bit programs to run on 32-bit Windows, and WOW64 allows
    32-bit programs to run on 64-bit Windows.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_on_Windows
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/visualstudio/visual-basic-6/visual-basic-6-support-policy

    When installing the MyDrive Connect program, are you letting the
    installer decide where to install, or are you picking the folder?
    32-bit programs get installed under C:\Program Files (x86), while 64-bit
    programs install under C:\Program Files. Or, if you pick the install
    folder, you could create your own, like C:\Programs, to install the
    program in a subfolder under there.

    Under "Windows Features", VB is not listed as a component you can remove
    or add, so you can't go there to remove and then replace the VB
    component(s). Possibly it is an optional component to select during a
    custom install of Windows.

    https://helpdesk.atril.com/hc/en-us/articles/205537331-How-to-re-install-the-Visual-Basic-6-Runtime

    If push comes to shove, you might have to install Visual Studio to get
    the VB runtime(s). There is a Community edition that is free; see:

    https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

    If you have to install VS, do a custom install to be sure the VB
    runtime(s) are included in the installation.

    I'd first contact TomTom's tech support to see what they say.


    https://help.tomtom.com/hc/en-ca/articles/360013959499-Installing-MyDrive-Connect

    # There is a link on the page for a download.

    https://cdn.sa.services.tomtom.com/static/sa/Windows/InstallTomTomMyDriveConnect.exe

    Name: InstallTomTomMyDriveConnect.exe
    Size: 72,345,312 bytes (68 MiB)
    SHA256: DC8973AF9D96F7DD913E0D92606AE6F0724B41C58C73B360CC7DC0E0EB66A460 <=== can use in virustotal.com "search"

    *******

    tree /F

    Folder PATH listing for volume RAMDrive
    Volume serial number is DA56-EBFC
    D:.
    │ d3dcompiler_47.dll
    │ DeviceController.dll
    │ DeviceDetection.dll
    │ DeviceNavEthernetCore.dll
    │ DeviceNavManager.dll
    │ e2fsck.exe
    │ ext2fs.dll <=== good file system choice for "no license fees" │ libcrypto-1_1.dll
    │ libEGL.dll
    │ libGLESv2.dll
    │ libssl-1_1.dll
    │ MDCDLLChecker.exe
    │ MDCLauncher.exe
    │ opengl32sw.dll
    │ qt.conf
    │ Qt5Core.dll <=== QT5 multi-platform engine (different engine, for each supported platform)
    │ Qt5Gui.dll <=== This is the Windows DLL set for QT5.
    │ Qt5Multimedia.dll
    │ Qt5MultimediaWidgets.dll
    │ Qt5Network.dll
    │ Qt5Positioning.dll
    │ Qt5PrintSupport.dll
    │ Qt5Qml.dll
    │ Qt5QmlModels.dll
    │ Qt5Quick.dll
    │ Qt5QuickWidgets.dll
    │ Qt5Sensors.dll
    │ Qt5Sql.dll
    │ Qt5Svg.dll
    │ Qt5WebChannel.dll
    │ Qt5WebEngineCore.dll
    │ Qt5WebEngineWidgets.dll
    │ Qt5WebSockets.dll
    │ Qt5Widgets.dll
    │ Qt5Xml.dll
    │ Qt5XmlPatterns.dll
    │ qtdiag.bat
    │ qtdiag.exe
    │ QtWebEngineProcess.exe
    │ quazip.dll
    │ TomTom MyDrive Connect.exe
    │ TomTomCacheCleanup.exe
    │ TomTomCommonUI.dll
    │ TomTomSupporterBase.dll
    │ TomTomSupporterCore.dll
    │ TomTomSupporterProxy.dll
    │ TTFS.dll
    │ UIController.dll
    │ UIWebControllerCore.dll
    │ Uninstall TomTom MyDrive Connect.exe
    │ zlib1.dll
    │
    ├───$PLUGINSDIR
    │ fct.dll
    │ KillProcDLL.dll
    │ liteFirewallW.dll
    │ modern-header.bmp
    │ nsDialogs.dll
    │ nsProcess.dll
    │ StdUtils.dll
    │ System.dll
    │ UAC.dll
    │ UserInfo.dll
    │ version.dll
    │
    ├───$TEMP
    │ $1
    │ VC_MergeModuleToMSI.msi
    │ VC_redist.x86.exe
    │
    ├───Driver
    │ ├───INF
    │ │ tomtom.inf
    │ │ ttrndis.cat
    │ │
    │ ├───win32
    │ │ DIFxAPI.dll
    │ │ DriverPreInstall.exe
    │ │ DriverUnInstall.exe
    │ │
    │ └───x64
    │ DIFxAPI.dll
    │ DriverPreInstall64.exe
    │ DriverUnInstall64.exe
    │
    ├───MyDriveConnectUpdater
    │ │ d3dcompiler_47.dll
    │ │ libEGL.dll
    │ │ libGLESV2.dll
    │ │ MyDriveConnectUpdater.exe
    │ │ opengl32sw.dll
    │ │ Qt5Core.dll
    │ │ Qt5Gui.dll
    │ │ Qt5Svg.dll
    │ │ Qt5Widgets.dll
    │ │ TomTomSupporterBase.dll
    │ │
    │ ├───iconengines
    │ │ qsvgicon.dll
    │ │
    │ ├───imageformats
    │ │ qgif.dll
    │ │ qicns.dll
    │ │ qico.dll
    │ │ qjpeg.dll
    │ │ qsvg.dll
    │ │ qtga.dll
    │ │ qtiff.dll
    │ │ qwbmp.dll
    │ │ qwebp.dll
    │ │
    │ ├───platforms
    │ │ qwindows.dll
    │ │
    │ └───translations
    │ qt_en.qm # similar files... removed from list
    │
    ├───Plugins
    │ │ DeviceNavEthernetManager.dll
    │ │ DeviceNavEthernetV5Manager.dll
    │ │ DeviceNavEthernetV6Manager.dll
    │ │ DeviceNavInDashV3Manager.dll
    │ │ UIWebkitController.dll
    │ │
    │ ├───bearer
    │ │ qgenericbearer.dll
    │ │
    │ ├───iconengines
    │ │ qsvgicon.dll
    │ │
    │ ├───imageformats
    │ │ qgif.dll
    │ │ qicns.dll
    │ │ qico.dll
    │ │ qjpeg.dll
    │ │ qsvg.dll
    │ │ qtga.dll
    │ │ qtiff.dll
    │ │ qwbmp.dll
    │ │ qwebp.dll
    │ │
    │ └───platforms
    │ qwindows.dll
    │
    ├───Resources
    │ application.ini
    │ Configuration.xml
    │ icudtl.dat
    │ index.html
    │ qtwebengine_resources.pak
    │ qtwebengine_resources_100p.pak
    │ qtwebengine_resources_200p.pak
    │ socket-proxy.min.js
    │ TT_root_sign_cert crt.dat
    │
    ├───styles
    │ qwindowsvistastyle.dll
    │
    ├───translations
    │ │ qt_en.qm # similar files... removed from list
    │ │
    │ └───qtwebengine_locales
    │ en-GB.pak # similar files... removed from list
    │
    └───vcredist
    VC_redist.x86.exe <=== Installing just the 32-bit version of visual studio, version info below.

    Details of the vcredist installation file. It is the
    multi-version, which was created for multiple versions
    of Visual Studio. And would be appropriate for their
    usage of Visual Studio within that rough date range.
    This file should also be available from a Microsoft page,
    and if it was installed, the TomTom installer should have
    logic to not bother installing it a second time (or, removing
    an even more modern version of the file than 2/28/2020 as shown).

    Name: VC_redist.x86.exe
    Size: 14,364,440 bytes (13 MiB)
    SHA256: E59AE3E886BD4571A811FE31A47959AE5C40D87C583F786816C60440252CD7EC

    Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2019 Redistributable
    14.24.28127.4
    2/28/2020 3:18AM
    English (United States)

    The above Tree prepared by using 7ZIP on the EXE file, and
    unpacking the EXE contents. 7ZIP most likely did this (I can't
    be sure), as...

    1) Spots SFX style segment in the PE32 executable.
    2) Walks past it.
    3) Parses the declarative material after that, its own self.
    4) Now it can unpack the contents.
    (Running the file, would likely have started self-extraction anyway,
    which I did not test, as I'd probably use a VM for that.)

    Apparently, there is a "Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable"
    and I don't know the logic when both these kinds of files are present.
    Or how a TomTom installer that doesn't know about that version,
    would handle finding such already installed/listed in Programs&Features.

    Presumably, a program would be "satisfied" if it finds the "minimum"
    version of the runtime DLLs on the machine. But it's how the installer
    errors out, which is the issue for the OP right now, rather than the
    install finishing, but the QT5 package not being able to run.

    In theory, you can place the unpacked redist DLLs in the final install folder, if you wanted. But the program is also supposed to be able to
    pick something like that up, from some system folder. That's why they
    run the EXE for it.

    All very messy, and not something I know all the details of. I just
    do like everyone else, "keep installing shit until it stops complaining" :-)

    The system was more understandable... until they started using that multi-version idea. That is when I kinda lost the thread. Maybe they're
    all considered to be VS14 or something, I don't know. What is important though, is for the damn installer to get past that point and finish
    the rest of the installation for the OP. Some of these installers
    do the VS redistributable in the middle of an install, which is...
    not a good place to be doing it. If it was done at the very end, it
    could fail more gracefully (the user could clean up the mess by
    "installing more shit", just like the old days).

    Paul

    I followed advice from one of their pages that suggested removal of the program, then making sure there was nothing in either the user local or
    roaming directories and then restarting before reinstalling. Before I
    removed I did do a repair of the VC package by clicking on it, VC_redist.x86.exe, and doing the offered repair. I didn't remove it
    because I successfully installed another similar program "TomTom Home"
    today, and it shares the same package and I was unsure where it placed
    the files. "Home" did manage to get itself into the programs list using
    the start menu and works as intended.

    After doing the restart and making sure nothing was left over, I went to
    the link you gave and downloaded the file again using save. Clicked on
    it in file manager and it appears to fully install. Then it starts up
    and this is where it seems funky. There is a box of the window showing
    with just the top border showing the program name on the left, MyDrive
    Connect, and on the far right the minimize, maximize and X for close
    symbols. The rest of the window is transparent and shows my desktop. I
    did notice that if I move my mouse over inside it, there was a spot that
    turned the cursor to the pointed finger meaning something clickable. I
    tried it and it opened up the browser to a page where I could reset my password. I have not changed system colors or anything, so not sure why
    I can't see this window. It appears the same in the taskbar when I
    hover over it. Just the blank page with the program name on it.

    Tomorrow I guess I'll start mailing them to see if they have any answers.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Aug 4 21:48:13 2023
    On 8/4/2023 7:48 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 8/4/2023 7:39 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    I thought QuickTime died a long time ago.

    Qt5 is not QuickTime.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28software%29

    Ah, my bad.  Like seeing "KISS" and mistaking it for the band instead of
    the acronym.

    https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/windows-deployment.html
    "For Windows desktop applications, the required runtime files for the
    compiler are also copied to the deployable folder by default (unless the
    option --no-compiler-runtime is specified)."

    So, we might be back to having to [re]install [stepping atop the
    existing installs of] the C++ runtimes if TomTom didn't include them, or
    corrupted them.  I didn't bother to check which C++ runtime versions are
    needed for which version of QT for what the app calls.  I'd probably
    just reinstall all the runtimes to make sure they're complete and
    correct from the MS installers for them.

    I'll try that in the morning, but I think they use the same file already mentioned that MS does.

    Below from another post of yours
    From what I've found online, the latest version of TomTom MyDrive
    Connect is 4.2.10.4148, and was released back on Oct 5, 2020.  That's
    over 2 years ago while QT5 got dropped over 20 years ago.

    The MyDrive version I'm installing is 5.3.6.5021

    correction on the new version. It is
    4.3.6.5021

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to sticks on Sat Aug 5 07:01:02 2023
    On 8/4/2023 8:44 PM, sticks wrote:


    I followed advice from one of their pages that suggested removal of the program, then making sure there was nothing in either the user local or roaming directories and then restarting before reinstalling.  Before I removed I did do a repair of the VC
    package by clicking on it, VC_redist.x86.exe, and doing the offered repair.  I didn't remove it because I successfully installed another similar program "TomTom Home" today, and it shares the same package and I was unsure where it placed the files.  "
    Home" did manage to get itself into the programs list using the start menu and works as intended.

    After doing the restart and making sure nothing was left over, I went to the link you gave and downloaded the file again using save.  Clicked on it in file manager and it appears to fully install.  Then it starts up and this is where it seems funky. 
    There is a box of the window showing with just the top border showing the program name on the left, MyDrive Connect, and on the far right the minimize, maximize and X for close symbols.  The rest of the window is transparent and shows my desktop.  I
    did notice that if I move my mouse over inside it, there was a spot that turned the cursor to the pointed finger meaning something clickable.  I tried it and it opened up the browser to a page where I could reset my password.  I have not changed system
    colors or anything, so not sure why I can't see this window.  It appears the same in the taskbar when I hover over it.  Just the blank page with the program name on it.

    Tomorrow I guess I'll start mailing them to see if they have any answers.

    So something is wrong with the graphics.

    The title and decoration for the window, is a different call and
    subsystem than the "pixmap" that makes the window contents. Perhaps
    it has a minimum version of OpenGL ?

    Windows 10 will allow graphics as old as XDDM to work.
    Whereas the more advanced would be WDDM 3+. As for the vintage of
    OpenGL in those two examples, I haven't a clue.

    And I don't know if that info is exposed in "dxdiag" or not.
    It took GPUZ to mention my setup has OpenGL 4.6 .

    *******

    The application has "qtdiag.exe" in the Program Files (x86) folder,
    which dumps some info of interest to the developers, but not to us.

    C:\users\Bullwinkle\AppData\Local\TomTom\HOME3\Logs\qtdiag.log

    It would normally be run as qtdiag.exe > qtdiag.log
    and redirected to some text file like that.

    I ran the application on the Test Machine. it looks like the first
    window is actually a web page, and as I don't have an account, my adventure stops here. So your issue isn't necessarily graphics, it could be
    a firewall blocking connection to the TomTom web server.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/mgmhnBVr/Tom-Tom-Window-OK.gif

    This is my qtdiag.log from the Test Machine (winver = 19045.3208).
    Hardware is GTX1080 card (a bit old), NVidia 531.79 driver.
    In Device Manager, check to see whether your driver is
    Microsoft Basic Display Adapter (means no hardware driver).

    ************************** qtdiag.log ***************************

    Qt 5.15.14 (i386-little_endian-ilp32 shared (dynamic) release build; by MSVC 2019) on "windows"
    OS: Windows 10 Version 2009 [winnt version 10.0.19045]

    Architecture: x86_64; features: SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE4.1 SSE4.2 AVX

    Environment:

    Features: QT_NO_EXCEPTIONS

    Library info:
    PrefixPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect
    DocumentationPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\doc
    HeadersPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\include
    LibrariesPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\lib
    LibraryExecutablesPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\bin
    BinariesPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\bin
    PluginsPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\Plugins
    ImportsPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\imports
    Qml2ImportsPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\qml
    ArchDataPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect
    DataPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect
    TranslationsPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\translations
    ExamplesPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\examples
    TestsPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\tests
    SettingsPath:

    Standard paths [*...* denote writable entry]:
    DesktopLocation: "Desktop" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\Desktop*
    DocumentsLocation: "Documents" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\Documents*
    FontsLocation: "Fonts" *C:\WINDOWS\Fonts*
    ApplicationsLocation: "Applications" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs*
    MusicLocation: "Music" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\Music*
    MoviesLocation: "Movies" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\Videos*
    PicturesLocation: "Pictures" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\Pictures*
    TempLocation: "Temporary Directory" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\AppData\Local\Temp*
    HomeLocation: "Home" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle*
    AppLocalDataLocation: "Application Data" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\AppData\Local\QtProject\qtdiag* C:\ProgramData\QtProject\qtdiag C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\data C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\data\
    QtProject\qtdiag
    CacheLocation: "Cache" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\AppData\Local\QtProject\qtdiag\cache*
    GenericDataLocation: "Shared Data" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\AppData\Local* C:\ProgramData C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\data
    RuntimeLocation: "Runtime" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle*
    ConfigLocation: "Configuration" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\AppData\Local\QtProject\qtdiag* C:\ProgramData\QtProject\qtdiag C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\data C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\data\
    QtProject\qtdiag
    DownloadLocation: "Download" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\Downloads*
    GenericCacheLocation: "Shared Cache" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\AppData\Local\cache*
    GenericConfigLocation: "Shared Configuration" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\AppData\Local* C:\ProgramData C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\data
    AppDataLocation: "Application Data" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\AppData\Roaming\QtProject\qtdiag* C:\ProgramData\QtProject\qtdiag C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\data C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\data\
    QtProject\qtdiag
    AppConfigLocation: "Application Configuration" *C:\Users\Bullwinkle\AppData\Local\QtProject\qtdiag* C:\ProgramData\QtProject\qtdiag C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive Connect\data C:\Program Files (x86)\MyDrive
    Connect\data\QtProject\qtdiag

    File selectors (increasing order of precedence):
    en_US windows winnt

    Network:
    Using "OpenSSL 1.1.1t 7 Feb 2023", version: 0x1010114f

    Platform capabilities: ThreadedPixmaps OpenGL ThreadedOpenGL WindowMasks MultipleWindows ForeignWindows NonFullScreenWindows NativeWidgets WindowManagement RasterGLSurface AllGLFunctionsQueryable

    Style hints:
    mouseDoubleClickInterval: 500
    mousePressAndHoldInterval: 800
    startDragDistance: 10
    startDragTime: 500
    startDragVelocity: 0
    keyboardInputInterval: 400
    keyboardAutoRepeatRate: 32
    cursorFlashTime: 1060
    showIsFullScreen: 0
    showIsMaximized: 0
    passwordMaskDelay: 0
    passwordMaskCharacter: U+25CF
    fontSmoothingGamma: 1.2
    useRtlExtensions: 0
    setFocusOnTouchRelease: 0
    tabFocusBehavior: Qt::TabFocusAllControls
    singleClickActivation: 0

    Additional style hints (QPlatformIntegration):
    ReplayMousePressOutsidePopup: 1

    Theme:
    Platforms requested : windows
    available :
    Styles requested : WindowsVista,Windows
    available : windowsvista,Windows,Fusion
    System font : "MS Shell Dlg 2" 8
    Native file dialog

    Fonts:
    General font : "MS Shell Dlg 2" 8
    Fixed font : "Courier New" 9
    Title font : "MS Shell Dlg 2" 8
    Smallest font: "MS Shell Dlg 2" 8

    Palette:
    QPalette::WindowText: #ff000000
    QPalette::Button: #fff0f0f0
    QPalette::Light: #ffffffff
    QPalette::Midlight: #ffe3e3e3
    QPalette::Dark: #ffa0a0a0
    QPalette::Mid: #ffa0a0a0
    QPalette::Text: #ff000000
    QPalette::BrightText: #ffffffff
    QPalette::ButtonText: #ff000000
    QPalette::Base: #ffffffff
    QPalette::Window: #fff0f0f0
    QPalette::Shadow: #ff696969
    QPalette::Highlight: #ff0078d7
    QPalette::HighlightedText: #ffffffff
    QPalette::Link: #ff0000ff
    QPalette::LinkVisited: #ffff00ff
    QPalette::AlternateBase: #ffe9e7e3
    QPalette::NoRole: #ff000000
    QPalette::ToolTipBase: #ffffffdc
    QPalette::ToolTipText: #ff000000
    QPalette::PlaceholderText: #80000000

    Screens: 1, High DPI scaling: inactive
    # 0 "\\.\DISPLAY1" Depth: 32 Primary: yes
    Manufacturer:
    Model:
    Serial number:
    Geometry: 1280x1024+0+0 Available: 1280x984+0+0 <=== my tiny NEC monitor :-)
    Physical size: 338x270 mm Refresh: 60 Hz Power state: 0
    Physical DPI: 96.1893,96.3319 Logical DPI: 96,96 Subpixel_None
    DevicePixelRatio: 1 Pixel density: 1
    Primary orientation: 2 Orientation: 2 Native orientation: 0 OrientationUpdateMask: 0

    Dynamic GL LibGL Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
    Renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080/PCIe/SSE2
    Version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 531.79
    Shading language: 4.60 NVIDIA
    Format: Version: 4.6 Profile: 2 Swap behavior: 2 Buffer size (RGBA): 8,8,8,8 Depth buffer: 24 Stencil buffer: 8
    Profile: None (QOpenGLFunctions_4_6)

    Vulkan instance available
    Supported instance extensions:
    VK_KHR_device_group_creation, version 1
    VK_KHR_external_fence_capabilities, version 1
    VK_KHR_external_memory_capabilities, version 1
    VK_KHR_external_semaphore_capabilities, version 1
    VK_KHR_get_physical_device_properties2, version 2
    VK_KHR_get_surface_capabilities2, version 1
    VK_KHR_surface, version 25
    VK_KHR_surface_protected_capabilities, version 1
    VK_KHR_win32_surface, version 6
    VK_EXT_debug_report, version 10
    VK_EXT_debug_utils, version 2
    VK_EXT_swapchain_colorspace, version 4
    VK_NV_external_memory_capabilities, version 1
    VK_KHR_portability_enumeration, version 1
    Supported layers:
    VK_LAYER_NV_optimus, version 1, spec version 1.3.236, NVIDIA Optimus layer Available physical devices:
    API version 1.3.236, vendor 0x10DE, device 0x1B80, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080, type 2, driver version 531.316.0


    GPU #1:
    Card name : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080
    Driver Name : nvldumd.dll
    Driver Version : 31.0.15.3179
    Vendor ID : 0x10DE
    Device ID : 0x1B80
    SubSys ID : 0x145119DA
    Revision ID : 0x00A1

    Qt Rendering Hardware Interface supported backends:
    OpenGL (with default QSurfaceFormat):
    Min Texture Size: 1
    Max Texture Size: 32768
    Max Color Attachments: 8
    Frames in Flight: 1
    Uniform Buffer Alignment: 1
    Supported MSAA sample counts: 1,2,4,8,16,32
    Features:
    - MultisampleTexture
    v MultisampleRenderBuffer
    - DebugMarkers
    - Timestamps
    v Instancing
    - CustomInstanceStepRate
    v PrimitiveRestart
    v NonDynamicUniformBuffers
    v NonFourAlignedEffectiveIndexBufferOffset
    v NPOTTextureRepeat
    - RedOrAlpha8IsRed
    v ElementIndexUint
    v Compute
    v WideLines
    v VertexShaderPointSize
    v BaseVertex
    - BaseInstance
    v TriangleFanTopology
    v ReadBackNonUniformBuffer
    v ReadBackNonBaseMipLevel
    Texture formats: RGBA8 BGRA8 R8 R16 RED_OR_ALPHA8 RGBA16F RGBA32F R16F R32F D16 D32F BC1 BC2 BC3 ETC2_RGB8 ETC2_RGB8A1 ETC2_RGBA8 ASTC_4x4 ASTC_5x4 ASTC_5x5 ASTC_6x5 ASTC_6x6 ASTC_8x5 ASTC_8x6 ASTC_8x8 ASTC_10x5 ASTC_10x6 ASTC_10x8 ASTC_10x10 ASTC_
    12x10 ASTC_12x12
    Vulkan:
    Min Texture Size: 1
    Max Texture Size: 32768
    Max Color Attachments: 8
    Frames in Flight: 2
    Uniform Buffer Alignment: 256
    Supported MSAA sample counts: 1,2,4,8
    Features:
    v MultisampleTexture
    v MultisampleRenderBuffer
    - DebugMarkers
    v Timestamps
    v Instancing
    - CustomInstanceStepRate
    v PrimitiveRestart
    v NonDynamicUniformBuffers
    v NonFourAlignedEffectiveIndexBufferOffset
    v NPOTTextureRepeat
    v RedOrAlpha8IsRed
    v ElementIndexUint
    v Compute
    v WideLines
    v VertexShaderPointSize
    v BaseVertex
    v BaseInstance
    v TriangleFanTopology
    v ReadBackNonUniformBuffer
    v ReadBackNonBaseMipLevel
    Texture formats: RGBA8 BGRA8 R8 R16 RED_OR_ALPHA8 RGBA16F RGBA32F R16F R32F D16 D32F BC1 BC2 BC3 BC4 BC5 BC6H BC7
    Direct3D 11:
    Min Texture Size: 1
    Max Texture Size: 16384
    Max Color Attachments: 8
    Frames in Flight: 1
    Uniform Buffer Alignment: 256
    Supported MSAA sample counts: 1,2,4,8
    Features:
    v MultisampleTexture
    v MultisampleRenderBuffer
    v DebugMarkers
    v Timestamps
    v Instancing
    v CustomInstanceStepRate
    v PrimitiveRestart
    - NonDynamicUniformBuffers
    v NonFourAlignedEffectiveIndexBufferOffset
    v NPOTTextureRepeat
    v RedOrAlpha8IsRed
    v ElementIndexUint
    v Compute
    - WideLines
    - VertexShaderPointSize
    v BaseVertex
    v BaseInstance
    - TriangleFanTopology
    v ReadBackNonUniformBuffer
    v ReadBackNonBaseMipLevel
    Texture formats: RGBA8 BGRA8 R8 R16 RED_OR_ALPHA8 RGBA16F RGBA32F R16F R32F D16 D32F BC1 BC2 BC3 BC4 BC5 BC6H BC7

    ************************** qtdiag.log ***************************

    I tried using "qtlogging.ini" but it doesn't support that.

    [Rules]
    *.debug=true

    which is supposed to record startup errors. I used that in the W7+ version
    of Stellarium, which is a QT5 application, and it logged some stuff. But
    since it doesn't work in TomTom, no big deal.

    Paul

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to sticks on Sat Aug 5 13:57:51 2023
    On 2023-08-03 19:48, sticks wrote:
    On 8/3/2023 12:30 PM, Graham J wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    For some reason, I cannot get this to update or install.  I have used
    this before to update using the computers internet connection instead
    of wireless.

    [snip]

    Don't understand.  Does the wireless mechanism in some way not use the
    internet - does it come direct from the satellite?


    The GPS unit works by itself just fine.  It is not the GPS function, but updating the devices file that's the problem.  New maps, for example. It will connect to my wireless connection to do updates.  Problem is this
    is a motorcycle GPS and out in my garage.  It's a ways from the router
    and not a great connection.  I have wired my internet out to my garage
    and have used this before today to update the different GPS devices I
    have using the wired connection to internet.  It is the program TomTom MyDrive that doesn't work, won't update, or install again on the garage computer.


    Ok, your final goal is to update the TomTom device, or to update the
    Windows tool called "MyDrive"?

    I have and use a TomTom, and I don't use MyDrive, because I run Linux
    most of the time.

    Old TomTom devices had to be connected to a Windows computer running the program in order to be updated. Relatively recent devices update on
    their own, without a computer, connecting to the house WiFi. The only requirement is that you connect the cable to the TomTom for power.

    In my case the TomTom has two connectors: one is a strong magnetic
    connection on the cradle, and this model came only with one cradle. The
    other one is a standard micro usb connector, which I just connect to an
    USB power dongle (not to the computer). I assume you have that.

    So don't connect the device to the computer, just to an USB power thing,
    and use the TomTom connected to the house WiFi in your sitting room and
    then tell the TomTom to update itself.


    Notice that when the brand thinks your device is too old and is time for
    you to buy a new one, the device fails to update or something "final".


    If your TomTom can only be updated via Windows tool, then next time you
    buy a TomTom make sure it updates via WiFi and that you can do this
    sitting in front of the telly.


    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Bucky Breeder@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 6 15:44:52 2023
    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid>
    posted this via news:v2q1qjxpu7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor:

    I have and use a TomTom, and I don't use MyDrive, because I run Linux
    most of the time.


    How about keeping this condescending drivel in the Linux groups.

    Siri says you are a shit stain, no matter which sock you're hiding behind.

    --

    I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;

    And *NO*, that is *NOT* a Jedi Light Saber I have in my pocket!

    But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm happy to see you either.

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