• Updating our Google Account inactivity policy

    From Eric the Red@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 2 22:13:42 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...

    To: google account holder
    Subject: Updating our Google Account inactivity policy
    Date: today

    Every day Google works hard to keep you and your private information safe
    and secure by preventing unauthorized access to your Google Account with
    our built-in security protections. And keeping you safe means having strong privacy practices across our products that minimize how long we store your personal files and any data associated with them. We want to protect your private information and prevent any unauthorized access to your account
    even if you're no longer using our services.

    Therefore, we are updating the inactivity period for a Google Account to
    two years across all our products and services.

    This change starts rolling out today and will apply to any Google Account that's been inactive, meaning it has not been signed into or used within a two-year period.

    An inactive account and any content in it will be eligible for deletion
    from December 1, 2023.

    What this means for you:

    These changes do not impact you unless you have been inactive in your Google Account for two years or have not used your account to sign in to
    any Google service for over two years.
    While the changes go into effect today, the earliest we would enforce
    any account deletion would be December 2023.
    If your account is considered inactive, we will send several reminder emails to both you and your recovery emails (if any have been provided)
    before we take any action or delete any account content. These reminder
    emails will go out at least 8 months before any action is taken on your account.
    After a Google Account is deleted, the Gmail address for the deleted account cannot be used again when creating a new Google Account.

    How to keep your account active?

    The simplest way to keep a Google Account active is to sign in to the
    account at least once every two years. If you have signed in to your Google Account recently in the past two years, your account is considered active
    and will not be deleted.

    Other ways to keep your account active include:

    Reading or sending an email
    Using Google Drive
    Watching a YouTube video
    Sharing a photo
    Downloading an app
    Using Google Search
    Using Sign in with Google to sign in to a third-party app or service

    There are some exceptions to this policy. Examples include: a Google
    Account with YouTube channels, videos or comments; an account that has a
    gift card with a monetary balance; or an account that has a published application, for example, one that hosts an app on the Google Play store.
    Other exceptions to this policy are available here.

    Google also offers tools to help manage your Google Account and provide
    options to back up your data, including the ability to download your data
    using Google Takeout, and allowing you to plan for what happens to your
    data if you're inactive for a specific period of time with the Inactive
    Account Manager.

    Our priority is to make it as easy as possible for you to keep your account active, if you want to, and we'll ensure you have adequate notice before
    any account is impacted by this change. So before an account is deleted,
    Google will send email notifications to the Google Account and its recovery email (if one has been provided). You should verify that your recovery
    email is up to date.

    Learn more

    Inactive Google Account Policy
    How Google retains data we collect
    Updating our inactive account policies (only available in English)

    Thank you,
    The Google Account team

    You have received this email to update you about important changes to your Google Account and services.

    (C) 2023 Google LLC 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043

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  • From Eric the Red@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Wed Aug 2 23:01:18 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...


    Really? You have over a dozen Google accounts?

    Easily over a dozen.

    How many Android phones have you set up?
    They give you an account easy when you do that.
    No questions asked.

    Much easier than it is to set up a new account on Windows for example.
    Every time you need to add free 15GB of storage, you get another account.

    Over time, you easily have more than a dozen Google accounts.
    Each gives you all the perks such as that 15GB free storage per account.

    And easy moving of contacts, calendars & apps from one device to the other.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Eric the Red on Wed Aug 2 22:28:18 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Eric the Red <Eric@TheRed.com> wrote:
    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...


    Really? You have over a dozen Google accounts?

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  • From Char Jackson@21:1/5 to REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com on Wed Aug 2 18:01:45 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 22:28:18 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    Eric the Red <Eric@TheRed.com> wrote:
    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...


    Really? You have over a dozen Google accounts?

    I'm really a close. I just need 11 more to "have over a dozen Google accounts".

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  • From Auric__@21:1/5 to Eric the Red on Wed Aug 2 23:51:43 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Eric the Red wrote:

    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...

    Really? You have over a dozen Google accounts?

    Easily over a dozen.

    How many Android phones have you set up?
    They give you an account easy when you do that.
    No questions asked.

    ...or... you could just, y'know, reuse your existing account. I have
    something like a dozen phones, tablets, etc. associated with my main
    account. (I have 3 accounts total: my personal one, my business one, and one vaguely associated with "Auric__".)

    But it's not like they grill you about why you want a new account at any
    time. Just go to any Google site and sign up, no new phone required.

    Much easier than it is to set up a new account on Windows for example.
    Every time you need to add free 15GB of storage, you get another account.

    Over time, you easily have more than a dozen Google accounts.
    Each gives you all the perks such as that 15GB free storage per account.

    And easy moving of contacts, calendars & apps from one device to the
    other.

    As far as storage goes, why would I want Google to have another 15GB of my data, when they already know pretty much everything else about me anyway?
    And why would 15GB matter to me when I have ~10TB on my server and another
    12TB on my backup machine? 15GB probably wouldn't even hold my entire
    desktop right now.

    (Yes, I know, offsite backups. I'd prefer a paid service, honestly. F Google right in the A.)

    --
    It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose.
    That is not weakness. That is life.

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  • From Incubus@21:1/5 to not.my.real@email.address on Thu Aug 3 00:11:01 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 2023-08-02, Auric__ <not.my.real@email.address> wrote:
    But it's not like they grill you about why you want a new account at any time. Just go to any Google site and sign up, no new phone required.

    Actually, they do. If you're on VPN especially. But even if you're not on
    VPN and you don't want to give them 2FA or a recovery address or phone #, Google will make it almost impossible unless you start from an Android.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Incubus on Wed Aug 2 20:28:25 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 2023-08-02 20:11, Incubus wrote:
    On 2023-08-02, Auric__ <not.my.real@email.address> wrote:
    But it's not like they grill you about why you want a new account at
    any time. Just go to any Google site and sign up, no new phone required.

    Actually, they do. If you're on VPN especially. But even if you're not on
    VPN and you don't want to give them 2FA or a recovery address or phone #, Google will make it almost impossible unless you start from an Android.

    I can set up an anonymous Google account from my Mac with a VPN (or not)
    w/o providing a ph. no. or alternate e-mail.

    Haven't done so from an iPhone - I'll try tomorrow.

    --
    “If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything."
    -Ronald Coase

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Eric the Red on Wed Aug 2 20:21:41 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 2023-08-02 18:13, Eric the Red wrote:
    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...

    To: google account holder
    Subject: Updating our Google Account inactivity policy
    Date: today

    No need to post the whole thing.

    I received the message too. Oddly enough I "re-visited" pretty much
    every Google account I have in the last month - including a few I had
    forgotten about.

    I was surprised that I have 8 accounts. And I know I've deliberately
    cancelled at least 2 or 3 others over the past few years.

    Anyway, I'll be closing a few of those still active ones too, but do
    wonder if there is a forum to sell off really good "handles"?

    --
    “If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything."
    -Ronald Coase

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 02:57:03 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Am 03.08.23 um 00:13 schrieb Eric the Red:
    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...

    Seriously?

    To: google account holder
    Subject: Updating our Google Account inactivity policy
    Date: today

    In an iPhone-Group?

    (C) 2023 Google LLC 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043

    Who cares?

    --
    Alea iacta est

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to hugybear@gmx.ch on Thu Aug 3 03:15:48 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 03.08.23 um 00:13 schrieb Eric the Red:
    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...

    Seriously?

    Indeed. I have NO google accounts. Never will again. The one that I
    had when I had an Android phone 7 years ago is long gone. Also I have
    never willingly used google search. I have used it a couple times on
    various things before changing the default to something better.

    To: google account holder
    Subject: Updating our Google Account inactivity policy
    Date: today

    In an iPhone-Group?

    It’s called trolling.

    (C) 2023 Google LLC 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043

    Who cares?

    No one in the iPhone newsgroup, that’s for sure.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Incubus on Thu Aug 3 09:33:20 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 2023-08-03 02:11, Incubus wrote:
    On 2023-08-02, Auric__ <not.my.real@email.address> wrote:
    But it's not like they grill you about why you want a new account at
    any time. Just go to any Google site and sign up, no new phone required.

    Actually, they do. If you're on VPN especially. But even if you're not on
    VPN and you don't want to give them 2FA or a recovery address or phone #, Google will make it almost impossible unless you start from an Android.

    And then they have the phone number, right? :-)

    Mmm. What about tablets, do they demand a phone number?

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Aug 3 08:35:40 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    badgolferman wrote:

    Eric the Red wrote:

    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...

    Really? You have over a dozen Google accounts?

    I have three ...

    the one if first created as a gmail account (rarely used now)

    a second one I created purely for my phone, when I wanted to keep it
    separate from the first one, google has long worked-out that this
    account is associated to the first one, so I only use this one now

    a third one setup to use gsuite with my domain, inactive and I'll let
    them close this one based on their new inactivity policy.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu Aug 3 09:43:52 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    badgolferman wrote:

    Eric the Red wrote:

    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...

    Really? You have over a dozen Google accounts?

    I have three ...

    the one if first created as a gmail account (rarely used now)

    a second one I created purely for my phone, when I wanted to keep it
    separate from the first one, google has long worked-out that this
    account is associated to the first one, so I only use this one now

    a third one setup to use gsuite with my domain, inactive and I'll let
    them close this one based on their new inactivity policy.



    I have two. This private one when it was still invitation only around 1999
    or so, and a joint family account where all our home and family emails are sent.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Incubus on Thu Aug 3 12:06:02 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Incubus <u9536612@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-08-02, Auric__ <not.my.real@email.address> wrote:
    But it's not like they grill you about why you want a new account at any time. Just go to any Google site and sign up, no new phone required.

    Actually, they do. If you're on VPN especially. But even if you're not on
    VPN and you don't want to give them 2FA or a recovery address or phone #, Google will make it almost impossible unless you start from an Android.

    (For the non-VPN case:) Urban legend!

    Just recently, 'we' (YTIW) tested again (proof posted to one or more
    of these groups) that you do *not* need a recovery (email) address, nor
    a phone number and 2FA is optional and does *not* neccessarily need a
    phone number (other 2FA methods are available).

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to Eric the Red on Thu Aug 3 08:23:48 2023
    "Eric the Red" <Eric@TheRed.com> wrote

    | Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...
    |

    This may be hard for you to understand, but the whole
    world does not live in Googleville. Google is a private spyware
    company, not an Internet protocol.

    This group is not for Google, iPhone or Android. If you
    care so much about Google then find a venue to discuss it.

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  • From Bucky Breeder@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 14:22:33 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Eric the Red <Eric@TheRed.com> posted this via news:uaekel$a6ci$1@dont-email.me:

    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...

    To: google account holder
    Subject: Updating our Google Account inactivity policy
    Date: today

    Every day Google works hard to keep you and your private information
    safe and secure by preventing unauthorized access to your Google Account
    with our built-in security protections. And keeping you safe means
    having strong privacy practices across our products that minimize how
    long we store your personal files and any data associated with them. We
    want to protect your private information and prevent any unauthorized
    access to your account even if you're no longer using our services.

    Therefore, we are updating the inactivity period for a Google Account to
    two years across all our products and services.

    This change starts rolling out today and will apply to any Google
    Account that's been inactive, meaning it has not been signed into or
    used within a two-year period.

    An inactive account and any content in it will be eligible for deletion
    from December 1, 2023.

    What this means for you:

    These changes do not impact you unless you have been inactive in
    your
    Google Account for two years or have not used your account to sign in to
    any Google service for over two years.
    While the changes go into effect today, the earliest we would
    enforce
    any account deletion would be December 2023.
    If your account is considered inactive, we will send several
    reminder
    emails to both you and your recovery emails (if any have been provided) before we take any action or delete any account content. These reminder emails will go out at least 8 months before any action is taken on your account.
    After a Google Account is deleted, the Gmail address for the deleted account cannot be used again when creating a new Google Account.

    How to keep your account active?

    The simplest way to keep a Google Account active is to sign in to the
    account at least once every two years. If you have signed in to your
    Google Account recently in the past two years, your account is
    considered active and will not be deleted.

    Other ways to keep your account active include:

    Reading or sending an email
    Using Google Drive
    Watching a YouTube video
    Sharing a photo
    Downloading an app
    Using Google Search
    Using Sign in with Google to sign in to a third-party app or service

    There are some exceptions to this policy. Examples include: a Google
    Account with YouTube channels, videos or comments; an account that has a
    gift card with a monetary balance; or an account that has a published application, for example, one that hosts an app on the Google Play
    store. Other exceptions to this policy are available here.

    Google also offers tools to help manage your Google Account and provide options to back up your data, including the ability to download your
    data using Google Takeout, and allowing you to plan for what happens to
    your data if you're inactive for a specific period of time with the
    Inactive Account Manager.

    Our priority is to make it as easy as possible for you to keep your
    account active, if you want to, and we'll ensure you have adequate
    notice before any account is impacted by this change. So before an
    account is deleted, Google will send email notifications to the Google Account and its recovery email (if one has been provided). You should
    verify that your recovery email is up to date.

    Learn more

    Inactive Google Account Policy
    How Google retains data we collect
    Updating our inactive account policies (only available in English)

    Thank you,
    The Google Account team

    You have received this email to update you about important changes to
    your Google Account and services.

    (C) 2023 Google LLC 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043


    I have a few Gmail accounts so when I got the memo, I went via the web interface to make sure all the latent accounts would have some activity
    logged. Most were loaded with SPAM, so that was an affirmative action the Gmail servers could log when I cleared all the junk.

    Two (2) interesting things are happening with the Google behemoth:

    1) After I would sign out of one account, I would close the browser, then clear all my cookies and caches before signing into the next account. Even with the clean-up effort, Gmail still recognized [my device, I presume] and started linking the accounts together; such that, next time I signed out, closed out the browser, cleared the caches, then attempted to sign in to
    the next account, the sign in page would list the previous accounts, now linked, and give me an option into which to login, or to "add another
    account."

    Seemingly randomly, as I progressed through each account, I was required to execute Captchas and/or retrieve a validation code prior to proceeding.

    M'eh... Got 'er done.

    2) One of my flagship accounts, not frequently used, required a validation
    code be sent to me via an old mobile phone number - which I had long ago changed to my current number.

    A. Sign in: *********@gmail.com
    B. Must execute Captcha process
    C. Password: enter password
    D. Interface demands verification via old cell phone
    E. "Can't sign you in" > "... doesn't have enough information
    to be sure this account is yours."
    F. "Learn more about recovery information [link]"

    REFERENCE: https://support.google.com/mail/thread/3898219

    EVERYTHING is a loopback to the fact that I changed cell phone numbers...

    I even got a return email from Gmail support, but it simply pointed me at
    the above link then stated that "some accounts will be unrecoverable..."
    then invites you simply open a new account.

    You MUST sign in to your disabled account in order to change the recovery number and Gmail won't allow you to sign in without sending a verification
    code to the old recovery number... Additionally, the system will not allow
    you reestablish or reopen the disabled account using a different password, recovery number, etc.

    Sucks for me, but if it's happening to me, you can bet it's happening to thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of other users. Seems like a
    terrible waste of server space to keep all those damaged accounts on file, especially when they have gone to extraordinary efforts to tie all your
    Gmail accounts together, which SHOULD serve to verify each other. D'uh.

    As they say "Welcome to the d-d-d-di-di-di-dig-dig-digi-digit-digita- digita-digital age."

    --

    I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;

    And *NO*, that is *NOT* a Jedi Light Saber I have in my pocket!

    But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm happy to see you either.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Thu Aug 3 11:36:47 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 2023-08-03 08:06, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Incubus <u9536612@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-08-02, Auric__ <not.my.real@email.address> wrote:
    But it's not like they grill you about why you want a new account at any >>> time. Just go to any Google site and sign up, no new phone required.

    Actually, they do. If you're on VPN especially. But even if you're not on
    VPN and you don't want to give them 2FA or a recovery address or phone #,
    Google will make it almost impossible unless you start from an Android.

    (For the non-VPN case:) Urban legend!

    Just recently, 'we' (YTIW) tested again (proof posted to one or more
    of these groups) that you do *not* need a recovery (email) address, nor
    a phone number and 2FA is optional and does *not* neccessarily need a
    phone number (other 2FA methods are available).

    HOW DARE YOU POST THE FACTS!

    --
    “If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything."
    -Ronald Coase

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Bucky Breeder on Thu Aug 3 18:30:30 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 2023-08-03 16:22, Bucky Breeder wrote:
    Eric the Red <Eric@TheRed.com> posted this via news:uaekel$a6ci$1@dont-email.me:

    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...

    ...

    I have a few Gmail accounts so when I got the memo, I went via the web interface to make sure all the latent accounts would have some activity logged. Most were loaded with SPAM, so that was an affirmative action the Gmail servers could log when I cleared all the junk.

    Two (2) interesting things are happening with the Google behemoth:

    1) After I would sign out of one account, I would close the browser, then clear all my cookies and caches before signing into the next account. Even with the clean-up effort, Gmail still recognized [my device, I presume] and started linking the accounts together; such that, next time I signed out, closed out the browser, cleared the caches, then attempted to sign in to
    the next account, the sign in page would list the previous accounts, now linked, and give me an option into which to login, or to "add another account."

    You have to log out. Deleting cookies is not necessary.

    Alternatively, you can login to each with a different Firefox profile -
    in Linux:

    firefox --ProfileManager &

    so that Google considers them different devices. You can thus be
    simultaneously logged to several gmail accounts.


    Seemingly randomly, as I progressed through each account, I was required to execute Captchas and/or retrieve a validation code prior to proceeding.

    M'eh... Got 'er done.

    2) One of my flagship accounts, not frequently used, required a validation code be sent to me via an old mobile phone number - which I had long ago changed to my current number.

    A. Sign in: *********@gmail.com
    B. Must execute Captcha process
    C. Password: enter password
    D. Interface demands verification via old cell phone
    E. "Can't sign you in" > "... doesn't have enough information
    to be sure this account is yours."
    F. "Learn more about recovery information [link]"

    REFERENCE: https://support.google.com/mail/thread/3898219

    EVERYTHING is a loopback to the fact that I changed cell phone numbers...

    I even got a return email from Gmail support, but it simply pointed me at
    the above link then stated that "some accounts will be unrecoverable..."
    then invites you simply open a new account.

    You MUST sign in to your disabled account in order to change the recovery number and Gmail won't allow you to sign in without sending a verification code to the old recovery number... Additionally, the system will not allow you reestablish or reopen the disabled account using a different password, recovery number, etc.

    Which is a reason to have several different recovery options with them,
    like an alternate email, and try to keep the information current.



    Sucks for me, but if it's happening to me, you can bet it's happening to thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of other users. Seems like a terrible waste of server space to keep all those damaged accounts on file, especially when they have gone to extraordinary efforts to tie all your
    Gmail accounts together, which SHOULD serve to verify each other. D'uh.

    As they say "Welcome to the d-d-d-di-di-di-dig-dig-digi-digit-digita- digita-digital age."


    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Thu Aug 3 18:20:37 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 2023-08-03 14:06, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Incubus <u9536612@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-08-02, Auric__ <not.my.real@email.address> wrote:
    But it's not like they grill you about why you want a new account at any >>> time. Just go to any Google site and sign up, no new phone required.

    Actually, they do. If you're on VPN especially. But even if you're not on
    VPN and you don't want to give them 2FA or a recovery address or phone #,
    Google will make it almost impossible unless you start from an Android.

    (For the non-VPN case:) Urban legend!

    Just recently, 'we' (YTIW) tested again (proof posted to one or more
    of these groups) that you do *not* need a recovery (email) address, nor
    a phone number and 2FA is optional and does *not* neccessarily need a
    phone number (other 2FA methods are available).

    The last time I had to create an account, which was on 2021-11-24, they
    would not allow me to continue without a phone number and birthdate.

    I'm told that later they relaxed the requirements.


    Oh, I did start the setup on an an ancient Android tablet, but the
    application could not continue, nor could it be updated till I had an
    account.

    I used that tablet as kitchen wall clock for some two years till the
    display started to die.


    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Thu Aug 3 11:47:13 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 8/2/23 22:15, Bob Campbell wrote:
    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 03.08.23 um 00:13 schrieb Eric the Red:
    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...

    Seriously?

    Indeed. I have NO google accounts. Never will again. The one that I
    had when I had an Android phone 7 years ago is long gone. Also I have
    never willingly used google search.

    Even if you did, why would you login?

    I have used it a couple times on
    various things before changing the default to something better.

    [snip]

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "That the saints may enjoy their beatitude and the grace of God more
    abundantly they are permitted to see the punishment of the damned in
    hell." [Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274), Summa Theologica]

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  • From Lord Vader@21:1/5 to Mark Lloyd on Fri Aug 4 02:26:04 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 8/3/2023 12:47 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
    Indeed. I have NO google accounts. Never will again. The one that I
    had when I had an Android phone 7 years ago is long gone. Also I have
    never willingly used google search.

    Even if you did, why would you login?

    The guy you're responding to is so dumb he has never searched the Internet?
    And then, he's so dumb that he thinks a search requires him to login first?
    Who is that stupid?

    Even searching archived newsgroups doesn't require a google login to run. http://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Thu Aug 3 17:59:06 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-08-03 08:06, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Incubus <u9536612@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-08-02, Auric__ <not.my.real@email.address> wrote:
    But it's not like they grill you about why you want a new account at any >>> time. Just go to any Google site and sign up, no new phone required.

    Actually, they do. If you're on VPN especially. But even if you're not on >> VPN and you don't want to give them 2FA or a recovery address or phone #, >> Google will make it almost impossible unless you start from an Android.

    (For the non-VPN case:) Urban legend!

    Just recently, 'we' (YTIW) tested again (proof posted to one or more
    of these groups) that you do *not* need a recovery (email) address, nor
    a phone number and 2FA is optional and does *not* neccessarily need a
    phone number (other 2FA methods are available).

    HOW DARE YOU POST THE FACTS!

    Well, even the best slip up once in a while. Anyway, I'm Dutch, so
    kind of dumb and not up to speed with them there rules.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Oscar Mayer on Thu Aug 3 13:48:30 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 2023-08-03 13:17, Oscar Mayer wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 20:21:41 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

    Anyway, I'll be closing a few of those still active ones too, but do
    wonder if there is a forum to sell off really good "handles"?

    Didn't the message say the old inactive handles will never be re-used?

    I haven't closed anything of late. And by the above, closing some
    doesn't mean I'm closing the nicer handles.

    --
    “If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything."
    -Ronald Coase

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  • From Oscar Mayer@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Thu Aug 3 13:17:22 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 20:21:41 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

    Anyway, I'll be closing a few of those still active ones too, but do
    wonder if there is a forum to sell off really good "handles"?

    Didn't the message say the old inactive handles will never be re-used?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Lord Vader on Thu Aug 3 22:29:10 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 2023-08-03 19:26, Lord Vader wrote:
    On 8/3/2023 12:47 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
    Indeed. I have NO google accounts. Never will again. The one that I >>> had when I had an Android phone 7 years ago is long gone. Also I have
    never willingly used google search.

    Even if you did, why would you login?

    The guy you're responding to is so dumb he has never searched the Internet? And then, he's so dumb that he thinks a search requires him to login first? Who is that stupid?

    Millions of people use google search while logged in.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Thu Aug 3 18:19:27 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 8/3/2023 4:29 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2023-08-03 19:26, Lord Vader wrote:
    On 8/3/2023 12:47 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
    Indeed.   I have NO google accounts.  Never will again.   The one that I
    had when I had an Android phone 7 years ago is long gone.  Also I have >>>> never willingly used google search.

    Even if you did, why would you login?

    The guy you're responding to is so dumb he has never searched the Internet? >> And then, he's so dumb that he thinks a search requires him to login first? >> Who is that stupid?

    Millions of people use google search while logged in.


    And the reason is "token persistence".

    Doing a discrete "log out" should clear the token.

    Otherwise, the token just might be available tomorrow,
    when you were not expecting it.

    Paul

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  • From Oscar Mayer@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri Aug 4 00:32:22 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 18:19:27 -0400, Paul wrote:

    Even if you did, why would you login?

    The guy you're responding to is so dumb he has never searched the Internet? >>> And then, he's so dumb that he thinks a search requires him to login first? >>> Who is that stupid?

    Millions of people use google search while logged in.


    And the reason is "token persistence".

    You'll probably notice the same guys like Bob Campbell who complain that
    Google tracks them are the same ones who do all their searches logged in.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 07:33:10 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Am 03.08.23 um 05:15 schrieb Bob Campbell:
    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 03.08.23 um 00:13 schrieb Eric the Red:
    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...

    Seriously?

    Indeed. I have NO google accounts. Never will again. The one that I
    had when I had an Android phone 7 years ago is long gone. Also I have
    never willingly used google search. I have used it a couple times on various things before changing the default to something better.

    Many years ago I switched to:

    https://duckduckgo.com

    Can be hardened with ad- and trackingblocker.

    Privacy Dashboard
    Privacy Protection

    To: google account holder
    Subject: Updating our Google Account inactivity policy
    Date: today

    In an iPhone-Group?

    It’s called trolling.

    +1

    (C) 2023 Google LLC 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043

    Who cares?

    No one in the iPhone newsgroup, that’s for sure.

    My words exactly.

    --
    Alea iacta est

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  • From Bucky Breeder@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 16:44:24 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> posted this via news:6a1tpjxmvi.ln2@Telcontar.valinor:

    On 2023-08-03 16:22, Bucky Breeder wrote:
    Eric the Red <Eric@TheRed.com> posted this via
    news:uaekel$a6ci$1@dont-email.me:

    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...

    ...

    I have a few Gmail accounts so when I got the memo, I went via the web
    interface to make sure all the latent accounts would have some activity
    logged. Most were loaded with SPAM, so that was an affirmative action
    the Gmail servers could log when I cleared all the junk.

    Two (2) interesting things are happening with the Google behemoth:

    1) After I would sign out of one account, I would close the browser,
    then clear all my cookies and caches before signing into the next
    account. Even with the clean-up effort, Gmail still recognized [my
    device, I presume] and started linking the accounts together; such
    that, next time I signed out, closed out the browser, cleared the
    caches, then attempted to sign in to the next account, the sign in page
    would list the previous accounts, now linked, and give me an option
    into which to login, or to "add another account."

    You have to log out. Deleting cookies is not necessary.

    Alternatively, you can login to each with a different Firefox profile -
    in Linux:

    firefox --ProfileManager &

    so that Google considers them different devices. You can thus be simultaneously logged to several gmail accounts.


    It's so special that YOU think I was asking for help. I was merely
    relaying the current landscape as I have discovered it pursuant to Gmail's notice to update Gmail accounts or lose them. Who is so dedicated that
    they would try to spoof an email provider into perceiving them as
    "different devices?" Who is so dedicated that they would utilize Linux to actuate such deception? Who would want to login to several different gmail accounts with several apparently different devices simultaneously??? To
    what end? It's rhetorical so please don't answer... We are fully aware
    that there are special people out there who do special things because,
    well, because they're just so special.

    The primary issue hereto is that Alphabet/Google/Gmail is compiling a
    dataset which identifies users and connects them to devices. A secondary
    issue is that Gmail is retaining identification information somewhere other than your browser or email client's cookies. For what reason could they possibly utilize this data... besides an opportunity to sell you out to a hostile government agency which is seeking to persecute you? Or maybe sell
    you some stuff that you wouldn't ordinarily be seeking to purchase?


    Seemingly randomly, as I progressed through each account, I was
    required to execute Captchas and/or retrieve a validation code prior to
    proceeding.

    M'eh... Got 'er done.

    2) One of my flagship accounts, not frequently used, required a
    validation code be sent to me via an old mobile phone number - which I
    had long ago changed to my current number.

    A. Sign in: *********@gmail.com
    B. Must execute Captcha process
    C. Password: enter password
    D. Interface demands verification via old cell phone
    E. "Can't sign you in" > "... doesn't have enough information
    to be sure this account is yours."
    F. "Learn more about recovery information [link]"

    REFERENCE: https://support.google.com/mail/thread/3898219

    EVERYTHING is a loopback to the fact that I changed cell phone
    numbers...

    I even got a return email from Gmail support, but it simply pointed me
    at the above link then stated that "some accounts will be
    unrecoverable..." then invites you simply open a new account.

    You MUST sign in to your disabled account in order to change the
    recovery number and Gmail won't allow you to sign in without sending a
    verification code to the old recovery number... Additionally, the
    system will not allow you reestablish or reopen the disabled account
    using a different password, recovery number, etc.

    Which is a reason to have several different recovery options with them,
    like an alternate email, and try to keep the information current.


    Yours is what is called an ex post facto observation, isn't it? D'uh. It really does NOT substantively address the blind-loop issue indigenous to
    the Gmail account recovery system. [insert screed about why people need to
    be very afraid of A.I.] I am losing that account because Gmail changed its procedures, NOT because I failed to comply with their original requirements when I first got my invitation to join circa 2004.

    Additionally, if they're going to all the trouble to associate and retain information about users, their accounts, and their devices; then, it should
    be only a minor endeavor of considerable ease to assist a user recovering
    an inaccessable account only because a mobile phone number has changed.

    We all now KNOW how to prevent it from happening in the future, don't we?




    Sucks for me, but if it's happening to me, you can bet it's happening
    to thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of other users. Seems like
    a terrible waste of server space to keep all those damaged accounts on
    file, especially when they have gone to extraordinary efforts to tie
    all your Gmail accounts together, which SHOULD serve to verify each
    other. D'uh.

    As they say "Welcome to the d-d-d-di-di-di-dig-dig-digi-digit-digita-
    digita-digital age."



    My article, contribution to the discussion, was intended to be
    informational - not confrontational. Someone from Gmail/Google, or someone
    who knows someone from Gmail/Google, or someone who knows someone who knows someone from Gmail/Google who is not yet consumed by oblivious groupthink
    might actually recognize an error in the account recovery system and make
    some simple adjustments thereto. It would actually benefit Gmail as much
    as affected users because they would not need the extra server space
    retaining information on crippled accounts which could be easily and safely recovered.

    --

    I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;

    And *NO*, that is *NOT* a Jedi Light Saber I have in my pocket!

    But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm happy to see you either.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 22:08:05 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Am 04.08.23 um 18:44 schrieb Bucky Breeder:
    It's so special that YOU think I was asking for help. I was merely
    relaying the current landscape as I have discovered it pursuant to Gmail's notice to update Gmail accounts or lose them.

    That is of no interest in an iPhone-group at all.
    Stop this X-posting.

    --
    Alea iacta est

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bucky Breeder@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 04:32:43 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?= <hugybear@gmx.ch> posted this via news:uajlr5$45ee$2@solani.org:

    Am 04.08.23 um 18:44 schrieb Bucky Breeder:
    It's so special that YOU think I was asking for help. I was merely
    relaying the current landscape as I have discovered it pursuant to
    Gmail's notice to update Gmail accounts or lose them.

    That is of no interest in an iPhone-group at all.
    Stop this X-posting.

    Thanks for licking my nutsack, you dillhole. My iPhone has the same issues
    as you snipped from my post. Go try to be drag queen of some other internet, you dumbass dillhole.

    --

    I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;

    And *NO*, that is *NOT* a Jedi Light Saber I have in my pocket!

    But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm happy to see you either.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 07:31:56 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Am 05.08.23 um 06:32 schrieb Bucky Breeder:
    =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?= <hugybear@gmx.ch> posted this via news:uajlr5$45ee$2@solani.org:

    Am 04.08.23 um 18:44 schrieb Bucky Breeder:
    It's so special that YOU think I was asking for help. I was merely
    relaying the current landscape as I have discovered it pursuant to
    Gmail's notice to update Gmail accounts or lose them.

    That is of no interest in an iPhone-group at all.
    Stop this X-posting.

    Thanks for licking my nutsack, you dillhole. My iPhone has the same issues as you snipped from my post. Go try to be drag queen of some other internet, you dumbass dillhole.

    Bucky Breeder <Breeder_Bucky-Breeder@That's.my.name_Don't.wear.it.out>

    A case for the loony bin.
    *ROTFLSTC*

    --
    Alea iacta est

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 07:30:00 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    Am 05.08.23 um 06:32 schrieb Bucky Breeder:
    =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?= <hugybear@gmx.ch> posted this via news:uajlr5$45ee$2@solani.org:

    Am 04.08.23 um 18:44 schrieb Bucky Breeder:
    It's so special that YOU think I was asking for help. I was merely
    relaying the current landscape as I have discovered it pursuant to
    Gmail's notice to update Gmail accounts or lose them.

    That is of no interest in an iPhone-group at all.
    Stop this X-posting.

    Thanks for licking my nutsack, you dillhole. My iPhone has the same issues as you snipped from my post. Go try to be drag queen of some other internet, you dumbass dillhole.

    Troll.
    "Google Account inactivity policy" has abolutely nothing to do with an
    iPhone. You seem to be brain dead.

    --
    Alea iacta est

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bucky Breeder@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 15:46:30 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?= <hugybear@gmx.ch> posted this via news:uakmoo$4n95$1@solani.org:

    Am 05.08.23 um 06:32 schrieb Bucky Breeder:
    =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?= <hugybear@gmx.ch> posted this via
    news:uajlr5$45ee$2@solani.org:

    Am 04.08.23 um 18:44 schrieb Bucky Breeder:
    It's so special that YOU think I was asking for help. I was merely
    relaying the current landscape as I have discovered it pursuant to
    Gmail's notice to update Gmail accounts or lose them.

    That is of no interest in an iPhone-group at all.
    Stop this X-posting.

    Thanks for licking my nutsack, you dillhole. My iPhone has the same
    issues as you snipped from my post. Go try to be drag queen of some
    other internet, you dumbass dillhole.

    Troll.
    "Google Account inactivity policy" has abolutely nothing to do with an iPhone. You seem to be brain dead.


    Siri just said YOU are a shit stain and I should ignore you. So I am.

    --

    I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;

    And *NO*, that is *NOT* a Jedi Light Saber I have in my pocket!

    But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm happy to see you either.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bucky Breeder@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 15:48:00 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?= <hugybear@gmx.ch> posted this via news:uakmsc$4n95$2@solani.org:

    Am 05.08.23 um 06:32 schrieb Bucky Breeder:
    =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?= <hugybear@gmx.ch> posted this via
    news:uajlr5$45ee$2@solani.org:

    Am 04.08.23 um 18:44 schrieb Bucky Breeder:
    It's so special that YOU think I was asking for help. I was merely
    relaying the current landscape as I have discovered it pursuant to
    Gmail's notice to update Gmail accounts or lose them.

    That is of no interest in an iPhone-group at all.
    Stop this X-posting.

    Thanks for licking my nutsack, you dillhole. My iPhone has the same
    issues as you snipped from my post. Go try to be drag queen of some
    other internet, you dumbass dillhole.

    Bucky Breeder <Breeder_Bucky-Breeder@That's.my.name_Don't.wear.it.out>

    A case for the loony bin.
    *ROTFLSTC*

    Siri just said you are a clueless shit stain and I should ignore you.

    So that is what we are doing now.

    --

    I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;

    And *NO*, that is *NOT* a Jedi Light Saber I have in my pocket!

    But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm happy to see you either.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com on Mon Nov 6 09:33:33 2023
    On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 22:28:18 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    Eric the Red <Eric@TheRed.com> wrote:
    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...


    Really? You have over a dozen Google accounts?

    I did years ago when playing a game that gave a definite game benefit
    to players who had multiple accounts and used them to funnel resources
    back and forth. I only use one of them now (since I no longer play
    that game and use that account for testing things)

    I had best get busy then if those are the new rules since my wife
    passed 18 months ago and I'm certain she didn't designate my acct as
    her recovery account. (Though I've set it up to send to my
    Thunderbird account so it's probably a non-issue since her messages
    are auto-forwarded to my secondary account - initially this was
    important since various real world accounts like our newspaper were
    paid on her credit card not mine. Similarly our communications with a charitable group we've supported for 15+ years - and which I still do
    support but with communications to my acct now)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Big Al@21:1/5 to this is what The Horny Goat on Mon Nov 6 14:54:10 2023
    On 11/6/23 12:33 PM, this is what The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 22:28:18 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    Eric the Red <Eric@TheRed.com> wrote:
    Most of us have over a dozen google accounts so this may impact you...


    Really? You have over a dozen Google accounts?

    I did years ago when playing a game that gave a definite game benefit
    to players who had multiple accounts and used them to funnel resources
    back and forth. I only use one of them now (since I no longer play
    that game and use that account for testing things)

    I had best get busy then if those are the new rules since my wife
    passed 18 months ago and I'm certain she didn't designate my acct as
    her recovery account. (Though I've set it up to send to my
    Thunderbird account so it's probably a non-issue since her messages
    are auto-forwarded to my secondary account - initially this was
    important since various real world accounts like our newspaper were
    paid on her credit card not mine. Similarly our communications with a charitable group we've supported for 15+ years - and which I still do
    support but with communications to my acct now)
    Would be nice if people would not snip the original test. I am assuming there was a link to an article from google.
    I've probably seen it and I know I have 1 account they can kill if it gets old.

    But I would like to see the notice.
    --
    Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon
    Al

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Big Al on Tue Nov 7 11:44:37 2023
    On 2023-11-06 20:54, Big Al wrote:
    On 11/6/23 12:33 PM, this is what The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 22:28:18 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman
    <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    ...

    Would be nice if people would not snip the original test.   I am
    assuming there was a link to an article from google.
    I've probably seen it and I know I have 1 account they can kill if it
    gets old.

    But I would like to see the notice.

    The initial post was sent at the start of August (to Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10),
    and it was basically a forward of an email, so no, there was no link.

    You should have that email in your account. And you will get warning
    emails if your account is going to be deleted, on your account and on
    your recovery mail (if you provided it), at least 8 months before deletion.

    The thread has been dormant for three months now.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Evil Boomer Santa Claus@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 8 22:46:57 2023
    On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 09:33:33 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:


    I did years ago when playing a game that gave a definite game benefit
    to players who had multiple accounts and used them to funnel resources
    back and forth. I only use one of them now (since I no longer play
    that game and use that account for testing things)

    Maybe a Facebook Game called Stormfall or Farmville? :D

    I too have many account, have add all in Edge Browser and Thunderbird.

    Every 6 months one message to everyone read and written and also a
    login via Edge.

    And think if I need again all or can dismiss some. :D

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to evilboomerNOSPAM@gmail.com on Thu Nov 9 01:58:15 2023
    On Wed, 08 Nov 2023 22:46:57 +0100, Evil Boomer Santa Claus <evilboomerNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    I did years ago when playing a game that gave a definite game benefit
    to players who had multiple accounts and used them to funnel resources
    back and forth. I only use one of them now (since I no longer play
    that game and use that account for testing things)

    Maybe a Facebook Game called Stormfall or Farmville? :D

    Actually it was Evony which I am now completely out of but at one time
    had 18 accounts

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