Very interesting phenomenon. Maybe I can get rid of it by restarting FF
or Win, but for now it's worth noting.
NextDoor used to work normally for me, but today, when I type, it's invisible. Unless I misspell something, in which case it's invisible
but underlined in red. I can see what I wrote by using the left mouse
key to sweep the text and highlight what I wrote. I can edit it by memorizing what change I want to make, how many letters to delete, etc,
and placing the cursor in the right place, at which time the text
disappears again.
I can edit much more easily by writing the whole thing somewhere else
and pasting it into NextDoor.
But how is this happening?
Are there settings for NextDoor or FF that will make what I write
invisible?
(I did crash FF and when I restarted it worked correctly again. I was
going to try to write on the WaPo page but didn't have the chance. )
Very interesting phenomenon. Maybe I can get rid of it by restarting FF
or Win, but for now it's worth noting.
NextDoor used to work normally for me, but today, when I type, it's invisible. Unless I misspell something, in which case it's invisible
but underlined in red. I can see what I wrote by using the left mouse
key to sweep the text and highlight what I wrote. I can edit it by memorizing what change I want to make, how many letters to delete, etc,
and placing the cursor in the right place, at which time the text
disappears again.
I can edit much more easily by writing the whole thing somewhere else
and pasting it into NextDoor.
But how is this happening?
Are there settings for NextDoor or FF that will make what I write
invisible?
(I did crash FF and when I restarted it worked correctly again. I was
going to try to write on the WaPo page but didn't have the chance. )
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
Very interesting phenomenon. Maybe I can get rid of it by restarting FF
or Win, but for now it's worth noting.
NextDoor used to work normally for me, but today, when I type, it's
invisible. Unless I misspell something, in which case it's invisible
but underlined in red. I can see what I wrote by using the left mouse
key to sweep the text and highlight what I wrote. I can edit it by
memorizing what change I want to make, how many letters to delete, etc,
and placing the cursor in the right place, at which time the text
disappears again.
I can edit much more easily by writing the whole thing somewhere else
and pasting it into NextDoor.
But how is this happening?
Are there settings for NextDoor or FF that will make what I write
invisible?
(I did crash FF and when I restarted it worked correctly again. I was
going to try to write on the WaPo page but didn't have the chance. )
Is Nextdoor a web site, add-on to Firefox, some program, or what? Don't expect everyone to know what that is. I heard of a Nextdoor web site
that has something to do with neighborhood events and info, because my
aunt mentioned using it, but I'm guessing the web site is what you're
asking about.
If you're talking about nextdoor.com, on what page is text invisible?
That site requires a login, and I won't be creating an account to see
what you see. The home page has a wall mural as a background image, and
a login form. I use uBlock Origin add-on to Firefox, an ad/content
blocker. It blocked 17 resources, and 5 domains on its blacklists, yet
the home page looks okay to me. Are you running an adblocker? What
happens when you disable all add-ons, and revisit the page? Tried
refreshing Firefox to get a fresh profile devoid of all tweaks you made
in config settings and in about:config along with no add-ons?
Foreground and background color might be the same, so no contrast to
show text on the background. What happens when you hightlight the
invisible text?
Foreground and background color might be the same, so no contrast to
show text on the background. What happens when you hightlight the
invisible text?
Very interesting phenomenon. Maybe I can get rid of it by restarting FF
or Win, but for now it's worth noting.
NextDoor used to work normally for me, but today, when I type, it's invisible. Unless I misspell something, in which case it's invisible
but underlined in red. I can see what I wrote by using the left mouse
key to sweep the text and highlight what I wrote. I can edit it by memorizing what change I want to make, how many letters to delete, etc,
and placing the cursor in the right place, at which time the text
disappears again.
I can edit much more easily by writing the whole thing somewhere else
and pasting it into NextDoor.
But how is this happening?
Are there settings for NextDoor or FF that will make what I write
invisible?
Very interesting phenomenon.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
Very interesting phenomenon. Maybe I can get rid of it by restarting FF
or Win, but for now it's worth noting.
NextDoor used to work normally for me, but today, when I type, it's
invisible. Unless I misspell something, in which case it's invisible
but underlined in red. I can see what I wrote by using the left mouse
key to sweep the text and highlight what I wrote. I can edit it by
memorizing what change I want to make, how many letters to delete, etc,
and placing the cursor in the right place, at which time the text
disappears again.
I can edit much more easily by writing the whole thing somewhere else
and pasting it into NextDoor.
But how is this happening?
Are there settings for NextDoor or FF that will make what I write
invisible?
It's not invisible it's just that the font colour has changed to match the >background. More than likely a temporary bug.
If your desktop is in "dark mode" that sometimes confuses some apps.
VanguardLH wrote:
Foreground and background color might be the same, so no contrast to
show text on the background. What happens when you hightlight the
invisible text?
ctrl-A to select all is a quick way to try that ...
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 00:03:29 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
Very interesting phenomenon.
Read here: https://www.espsciencetime.org/InvisibleWriting.aspx <G>
Is Nextdoor a web site, add-on to Firefox, some program, or what? Don't
expect everyone to know what that is. I heard of a Nextdoor web site
that has something to do with neighborhood events and info, because my
aunt mentioned using it, but I'm guessing the web site is what you're
asking about.
Exactly. It's like Facebook, but worse. Usenet people have been more
or less technologically sophisticated for a long time; NextDoor people
just fell off the turnip truck. It's kind of a revelation about the
people in your neighborhood. A lot of good people with good intentions
and a lot of good people with good intentions and not much common sense.
Worth looking at if you have a high tolerance for disorganization.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
Very interesting phenomenon. Maybe I can get rid of it by restarting FF
or Win, but for now it's worth noting.
NextDoor used to work normally for me, but today, when I type, it's
invisible. Unless I misspell something, in which case it's invisible
but underlined in red. I can see what I wrote by using the left mouse
key to sweep the text and highlight what I wrote. I can edit it by
memorizing what change I want to make, how many letters to delete, etc,
and placing the cursor in the right place, at which time the text
disappears again.
I can edit much more easily by writing the whole thing somewhere else
and pasting it into NextDoor.
But how is this happening?
Are there settings for NextDoor or FF that will make what I write
invisible?
(I did crash FF and when I restarted it worked correctly again. I was
going to try to write on the WaPo page but didn't have the chance. )
Is Nextdoor a web site, add-on to Firefox, some program, or what? Don't >expect everyone to know what that is. I heard of a Nextdoor web site
that has something to do with neighborhood events and info, because my
aunt mentioned using it, but I'm guessing the web site is what you're
asking about.
If you're talking about nextdoor.com, on what page is text invisible?
That site requires a login, and I won't be creating an account to see
what you see. The home page has a wall mural as a background image, and
a login form. I use uBlock Origin add-on to Firefox, an ad/content
blocker. It blocked 17 resources, and 5 domains on its blacklists, yet
the home page looks okay to me. Are you running an adblocker? What
happens when you disable all add-ons, and revisit the page? Tried
refreshing Firefox to get a fresh profile devoid of all tweaks you made
in config settings and in about:config along with no add-ons?
Foreground and background color might be the same, so no contrast to
show text on the background. What happens when you hightlight the
invisible text?
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:19:42 -0700, Ken
Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 00:03:29 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
Very interesting phenomenon.
Read here: https://www.espsciencetime.org/InvisibleWriting.aspx <G>
I guess I just have to do the reversse.
But after FF crashed Nextdoor was back to normal.
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 14:15:01 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:19:42 -0700, Ken
Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 00:03:29 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
Very interesting phenomenon.
Read here: https://www.espsciencetime.org/InvisibleWriting.aspx <G>
I guess I just have to do the reversse.
But after FF crashed Nextdoor was back to normal.
That's standard practice: whenever you're having a problem in a
program, close it and restart it. That should always be your first
step. It doesn't fix every problem, but it often does.
On the discussion pages where one person replies to someone else's
post.
As I said, that lets me see it. But it's still strange.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
On the discussion pages where one person replies to someone else's
post.
You sure that site doesn't deliberately allow hiding of text? I know
some game sites where posters are supposed to hide content that would
expose how to do something. They don't want casual perusal to provide >cheats. There'll be a discussion on an FM (fan mission), but certain
content is supposed to be hidden. As I recall, usually the hidden text
looks like a black block; i.e., the content has been redacted or
censored. Nothing special needs to be done at these censored sites
other than just highlight the redacted text.
[VanguardLH] Foreground and background color might be the same, so no >contrast to show text on the background. What happens when you
hightlight the invisible text?
As I said, that lets me see it. But it's still strange.
Other suggestions mention using a dark theme in the web browser.
Besides dark theme, perhaps you chose some other theming in the web
browser that interferes with that site.
Did highlighting the text make it visible?
As I said, after FF crashed, the problem went awaay, BUT IT'S BACK.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
As I said, after FF crashed, the problem went awaay, BUT IT'S BACK.
Did you disable all the add-ons you installed into Firefox, reload
Firefox, and retest the site?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 16:35:02 -0500,
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
On the discussion pages where one person replies to someone else's
post.
You sure that site doesn't deliberately allow hiding of text? I know
I'm sure. After I post/submit/comment it, it shows.
some game sites where posters are supposed to hide content that would
expose how to do something. They don't want casual perusal to provide
cheats. There'll be a discussion on an FM (fan mission), but certain
There is no point to people posting in a discussion group if others
can't read their words (as stupid as they often are!)
There is no point to people posting in a discussion group if others
can't read their words (as stupid as they often are!)
Yes, there is.
When a person is reading or perusing idly, they might hit and read by >accident a cheat on a game, or a movie spoiler. For example, a site on
movies may be reporting on a movie, and at some point say "here go
spoilers". Well, that part can be hidden. A click should reveal it. Or >highlight with the mouse.
Long ago, it was common to hide parts of messages in Fidonet by using
ROT13 encoding. A reader such as Golded had a key to encode/decode that >trivially.
I read that you found the problem, coming from an addon. It may be not
the fault of the addon, but an interaction between that webpage and the >addon. Just report the issue to them.
One commerce I use sends emails in such faded text since recently, it is
hard to read, and I have good sight. I complained, many of their clients
are aged.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:33:16 -0500,
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
As I said, after FF crashed, the problem went awaay, BUT IT'S BACK.
Did you disable all the add-ons you installed into Firefox, reload
Firefox, and retest the site?
YOU GET 3 POINTS FOR THIS.
I hadn't but I looked at my add-ons. Blacken has been installed for
about a year without ever giving me this problem. It was sometimes
listed in a warning that it was slowing down the system, but not this.
It has 4.6 stars on 25 reviews by 256 users. Like many add-ons, it's
not well explained. It has 4 options, original, manual, blacken, and
whiten. I don't know what whiten does and if manual does Blacken, then
what does blacken do? Regardless, clicking on manual made the text show
up. I will write the author and let him know.
"It seems to be fashionable these days to use faded text on many web
sites. Some sites are so faded that they are unreadable***. This
extension will change the colour of grey text back to black so that it
is easier to read. [It's supposed to be on all the time and work >automatically.]
Allow automatic updates Default", but I don't know when the last
update was. .... January 6, so that doesn't account for why it suddenly >started doign this. Maybe Nextdoor changed.
*** ABSOLUTELY
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:14:41 +0200, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
There is no point to people posting in a discussion group if others
can't read their words (as stupid as they often are!)
Yes, there is.
When a person is reading or perusing idly, they might hit and read by >>accident a cheat on a game, or a movie spoiler. For example, a site on >>movies may be reporting on a movie, and at some point say "here go >>spoilers". Well, that part can be hidden. A click should reveal it. Or >>highlight with the mouse.
Long ago, it was common to hide parts of messages in Fidonet by using >>ROT13 encoding. A reader such as Golded had a key to encode/decode that >>trivially.
Good points. How about if I change it to "There is no point to people >posting in a discussion group if others can never read any of their
words". I guess even that is not true, because typing angry words can
let off some anger.
Maybe that's how you and I can get rich. We can build a new website,
maybe call it AngryChat,
and posters can complain as much as they want,
use vulgar language, slander people, etc. but no one will be able to
read anything they've written, so no harm done. But posters will be
less angry after they post. No charge, much cheaper than a therapist.
We'd make our money selling advertising.
I read that you found the problem, coming from an addon. It may be not
the fault of the addon, but an interaction between that webpage and the >>addon. Just report the issue to them.
I did. He wrote back within 10 hours. I guess I will turn off Automatic.
One commerce I use sends emails in such faded text since recently, it is >>hard to read, and I have good sight. I complained, many of their clients >>are aged.
The author or one of the reviewers also mentions age.
I'm 76 but I don't think it's my age that prevents me from reading dark
grey on black. Or red on dark red. What is wrong with those webpage >writers that they do that? I think Blacken will work with dark red on
red, but red on dark red would turn into black on dark red. Not easy to
read either. And maybe he only changes grey. I'll find out when I
come across another of those dang pages. Or maybe it's a trend that is
now ending. That would be good for everyone.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:19:42 -0700, Ken
Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 00:03:29 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
Very interesting phenomenon.
Read here: https://www.espsciencetime.org/InvisibleWriting.aspx <G>
I guess I just have to do the reversse.
But after FF crashed Nextdoor was back to normal.
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 14:15:01 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:19:42 -0700, Ken
Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 00:03:29 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
Very interesting phenomenon.
Read here: https://www.espsciencetime.org/InvisibleWriting.aspx <G>
I guess I just have to do the reversse.
But after FF crashed Nextdoor was back to normal.
I disabled Blacken, but it's still making my writing to nextdoor
invisible. A couple other pages, when I check round checkboxes, they
don't appear to be checked. This is going to be an ongoing problem.
On 8/13/23 9:58 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 14:15:01 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:19:42 -0700, Ken >>>Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 00:03:29 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> >>>>wrote:
Very interesting phenomenon.
Read here: https://www.espsciencetime.org/InvisibleWriting.aspx <G>
I guess I just have to do the reversse.
But after FF crashed Nextdoor was back to normal.
... for extremely low values of 'normal'
I disabled Blacken, but it's still making my writing to nextdoor
invisible. A couple other pages, when I check round checkboxes, they
don't appear to be checked. This is going to be an ongoing problem.
FWIW, Nextdoor is flakey in every possible way. Sometimes when I'm
editing a post the cursor appears (and functions) in the line above the
one I'm editing, which causes a real nuisance if I don't notice but just
type normally as if it were working properly.
It's also a unique insight into the private lives of cats.
My local Nexdoor is crammed with "Have you seen this cat? Search all
sheds and garages". And then someone will say "Oh yeah, it turned up at
my back door, I let it in, and now it won't leave".
Long ago, it was common to hide parts of messages in Fidonet by using
ROT13 encoding. A reader such as Golded had a key to encode/decode that >trivially.
Ybat ntb, vg jnf pbzzba gb uvqr cnegf bs zrffntrf va Svqbarg ol hfvat
EBG13 rapbqvat. N ernqre fhpu nf Tbyqrq unq n xrl gb rapbqr/qrpbqr gung >gevivnyyl.
I'm 76 but I don't think it's my age that prevents me from reading dark
grey on black. Or red on dark red. What is wrong with those webpage >writers that they do that? I think Blacken will work with dark red on
red, but red on dark red would turn into black on dark red. Not easy to
read either. And maybe he only changes grey. I'll find out when I
come across another of those dang pages. Or maybe it's a trend that is
now ending. That would be good for everyone.
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