How do I eliminate constant google login box.
I found some instructions but they didn't match my available settings.
Using Firefox. Win 10
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
I found some instructions but they didn't match my available settings.
Using Firefox. Win 10
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
If it is any of Google services, well, yeah, you have to login to use
them. Normally you only login once to your Google account which then
gets used across all of Google services.
Are you relying on cookies for automatic logins?
Are you purging
cookies between web sessions?
I found some instructions but they didn't match my available settings.
Using Firefox. Win 10
If the online instructions for Firefox don't match your Firefox
settings, then are you really using Firefox? Or maybe an ancient
version of Firefox? Just where are these "instructions"?
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
I found some instructions but they didn't match my available settings.
Using Firefox. Win 10
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=stop+google+box+from+popping+up
3 from the list above: https://lifehacker.com/you-can-disable-google-sign-in-pop-ups-on-all-websites-1849913714
https://www.howtogeek.com/735152/how-to-turn-off-the-sign-in-with-google-prompt-on-websites/
https://www.makeuseof.com/stop-google-sign-in-pop-ups/
If you don't have this problem, count yourself lucky.
IN urls like the 3 above. It's more likely the instructions are old
than that my version of Firefox is, since my version is the current
one.
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13 -0500,
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might not see
it on the same pages I do.
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13 -0500,
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might not see
it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google.
I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox, so
Google isn't reaching me there.
uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time. >https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=stop+google+box+from+popping+up
3 from the list above:
https://lifehacker.com/you-can-disable-google-sign-in-pop-ups-on-all-websites-1849913714
https://www.howtogeek.com/735152/how-to-turn-off-the-sign-in-with-google-prompt-on-websites/
https://www.makeuseof.com/stop-google-sign-in-pop-ups/
If you don't have this problem, count yourself lucky.
More than luck. My taste in Web content does not lean towards sites
that require me to login to track me, but are passing me off to Google
to validate the login. Lots of sites utilize tracking via common
account tracking. You can login using Google, Facebook, Disqus, etc.
Have you considered using an ad/content blocker add-on in the web
browser?
For example, I use uBlock Origin, and one of the blacklists to
which it subscribes (e.g., Adguard Social Media, EasyList Social
Widgets) is to eliminate this cross-domain tracking crap. Not only are
the tracking domain logins eliminated, but also those icon lures that
want you to link your visit to a site to Facebook, Instagram, and other
sites for the socially needy.
When I go to my Google account settings, the entire "Signing in with
Google" section is missing.
That's likely because those are sub-options
under the "Enhanced Safe Browsing for your account" section is disabled
for me.
I'm not enabling the "Enhanced Safe Browsing" option only to
then disable it, because I don't want any of that crap.
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/11577602?hl=en
The sites you neglected to mention for any examples (which is typical of
you to withhold information)
are linking a login there to your Google
account. Google provides them with the code to do that. It's up to you
if you want to enable/disable the "Enhanced Safe Browsing" feature which
has Google work with the site you visited to do the login.
IN urls like the 3 above. It's more likely the instructions are old
than that my version of Firefox is, since my version is the current
one.
I also have the latest Firefox: version 115.0.2. It's not the web
browser that is at fault.
The unidentified sites you visit are
utilizing Google's safe browsing feature to provide a login to their
site instead of having to write the code themselves. When you see the
Google CAPTCHA image at a site, they didn't write the code for that.
Google wrote the code, and your response goes to Google to check if you
made valid responses. Instead of having to write from scratch,
programmers often use packaged code from other sources.
Instead of a site writing its own code for login and authenticating your >input, and of managing accounts at their site, they use code from Google
to use Google's authentication at those servers. They allocate the
login effort to Google. Makes it easier to code a site, but it also
means Google can track when you login at those Google-ified sites.
If you don't think those Google-ified logins are tracking you, consider
that Google claims this process (a site using Google to authenticate a
login at the site) will eliminate you logging into a malicious web site. >That's because Google has its own malicious domain blacklist, and they
know from which site the request got sent to use Google to authenticate
a login. Google can control just which site can Google-ify their login.
If you want Google holding your hand to protect you, and you don't mind
them tracking where you login, enable "Enhanced Safe Browsing" in your
Google account. Doing so has you enabling the "protection" you see with
all those repetitive login requests at Google when visiting a site.
https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-use-google-chrome-enhanced-safety-mode/
While this "feature" was implemented in Chrome, Google wants to also
track, er, protect its users that are logging in elsewhere. While I use
an ad/content blocker (uBlock Origin), I suspect the primary reason why
I don't get nuisanced with all those non-Google sites wanting me to use
my Google account to login is that I configured by Google account to
*not* allow Enhanced Safe Browsing". That disables the feature on
Google's end, so the Google code the visited site uses can't pass the
login to Google's servers.
I have no accounts with Google.
I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox, so
Google isn't reaching me there.
uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time. https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700, Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote: >>>>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might not see
it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google.
I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox, so
Google isn't reaching me there.
uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time. >>https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no google
account! So you can't go into google settings to turn it off.
Very interesting.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700, Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13 -0500,
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might not see
it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google.
I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox, so
Google isn't reaching me there.
uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time.
https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no google
account! So you can't go into google settings to turn it off.
Very interesting.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 22:22:06 -0500,
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=stop+google+box+from+popping+up
3 from the list above:
https://lifehacker.com/you-can-disable-google-sign-in-pop-ups-on-all-websites-1849913714
https://www.howtogeek.com/735152/how-to-turn-off-the-sign-in-with-google-prompt-on-websites/
https://www.makeuseof.com/stop-google-sign-in-pop-ups/
If you don't have this problem, count yourself lucky.
More than luck. My taste in Web content does not lean towards sites
that require me to login to track me, but are passing me off to Google
But they don't *require* it. I always X out the box and the sites work
fine anyhow. I'm just tired of doing that.
snip <
It has nothing to do with Google account settings.
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
micky wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Do you mean this sort of thing, where a 3rd party site offers you to
login using your google account?
<http://andyburns.uk/misc/google-3rd-party-option.png>
I do find that annoying, especially given that I have turned off that
option within the settings of my google account
<http://andyburns.uk/misc/google-3rd-party.png>
Andy Burns wrote:
I do find that annoying, especially given that I have turned off that
option within the settings of my google account
I assume that you are not logged in to google, so your settings don't
apply.
On 7/12/2023 1:00 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700, Pothos
<fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13 -0500,
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might not see
it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google.
I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox, so
Google isn't reaching me there.
uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time.
https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no google
account! So you can't go into google settings to turn it off.
Very interesting.
There's an interesting pattern present.
Seamonkey - "Your cart is empty" is about the only response in that corner MSEdge - "Something went wrong" in that corner.
Modern Firefox - I get the Google dialog as seen in   https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Old Firefox - "Something went wrong"
The code then, is checking whether the browser has all the
ingredients for googlean tracking.
select.html
switch(_.F(a,1))
  {case 1:_.z("The specified user is not signed in.");break;
   case 2:_.z("User has opted out of using Google Sign In.");break;  <=== Hahaha.
   case 3:_.z("The given client ID is not found.");break;
   case 4:_.z("The given client ID is not allowed to use Google Sign In.");break;
   case 5:_.z("The given origin is not allowed for the given client ID.");break;
  case 20:_.z("The given login_uri is not allowed for the given client ID.");break;
   case 6:_.z("Request from the same origin is expected.");break;
   case 7:_.z("Google Sign In is only allowed with HTTPS.");break;
   case 8:_.z("Parameter "+_.G(a,2)+" is not set correctly.");break;
   case 9:_.z("The browser is not supported.");break;
  case 12:_.z("Google Sign In does not support web view.");break;
  case 14:_.z("The client is restricted to accounts within its organization.");break;
  default:_.z("An unknown error occurred.")}}
The "User has opted out of using Google Sign In" . As if...
  Paul
How could this possibly end well ? It's Google! Don't be Evil Knievel!
https://www.howtogeek.com/735152/how-to-turn-off-the-sign-in-with-google-prompt-on-websites/
https://support.google.com/accounts/thread/185781726/is-google-account-sign-in-prompts-overriding-opt-out?hl=en
Carlos E.R. wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
I do find that annoying, especially given that I have turned off that
option within the settings of my google account
I assume that you are not logged in to google, so your settings don't
apply.
For my sins, I'm almost always logged in to google.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700, Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might not see
it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google.
I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox, so
Google isn't reaching me there.
uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time.
https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no google
account! So you can't go into google settings to turn it off.
Very interesting.
It has nothing to do with Google account settings.
Elsewhere in the thread, VanguardLH explained that Google supplies login script to any Web site that wants it. I use NoScript add on. I don't see
the script offering login with Google when I don't allow script from
Google to run.
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
I found some instructions but they didn't match my available
settings.
Using Firefox. Win 10
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
I found some instructions but they didn't match my available settings.
Using Firefox. Win 10
On 7/12/2023 1:32 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700, Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote: >>>>>> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might not see >>>>> it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google.
I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox, so
Google isn't reaching me there.
uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time.
https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no google
account! So you can't go into google settings to turn it off.
Very interesting.
It has nothing to do with Google account settings.
Elsewhere in the thread, VanguardLH explained that Google supplies login
script to any Web site that wants it. I use NoScript add on. I don't see
the script offering login with Google when I don't allow script from
Google to run.
I too, have never had a Google account and this google popup has
bothered me for some time now. I'm glad it bothered someone else enough
to bring it here, and for Adam's answer which seems like the only way to
get rid of it. I've been wanting to look into NoScript for some time anyway. I think this will finally get me to do it. Thanks
Is the google login box still on the monitor when you minimize Firefox?
go to the Privacy and
Security section of settings. Scroll fairly far down the page until you
see the Permissions section. There's a check box labeled "Block pop-up windows".
If the goggle login box is still visible in the same location on the
monitor with Firefox minimized, you may be more likely to have an
infection with malware.
Finally, you can open the Task Manager [snip] and see if anything appears suspicious.
micky wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Do you mean this sort of thing, where a 3rd party site offers you to
login using your google account?
<http://andyburns.uk/misc/google-3rd-party-option.png>
I do find that annoying, especially given that I have turned off that
option within the settings of my google account
<http://andyburns.uk/misc/google-3rd-party.png>
On 12/07/2023 05:55, micky wrote:
. . .
But they don't *require* it. I always X out the box and the sites work >>fine anyhow. I'm just tired of doing that.
IIRC clicking the x to exit is the same as accepting.
On 7/12/2023 8:43 AM, sticks wrote:
On 7/12/2023 1:32 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700, Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote: >>>>>On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote: >>>>>>>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might not see >>>>>>it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google.
I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox, so >>>>>Google isn't reaching me there.
uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time. >>>>>https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no google >>>>account! So you can't go into google settings to turn it off.
Very interesting.
It has nothing to do with Google account settings.
Elsewhere in the thread, VanguardLH explained that Google supplies login >>>script to any Web site that wants it. I use NoScript add on. I don't see >>>the script offering login with Google when I don't allow script from >>>Google to run.
I too, have never had a Google account and this google popup has
bothered me for some time now. I'm glad it bothered someone else enough >>to bring it here, and for Adam's answer which seems like the only way to >>get rid of it. I've been wanting to look into NoScript for some time >>anyway. I think this will finally get me to do it. Thanks
Done, and it works. Should have used this a long time ago. Thanks!
. . .
Finally, you can open the Task Manager (right click with cursor in a
blank are of the taskbar at the bottom of your screen and then click on
Task Manager, or just type task manager into the windows search area of
the taskbar). In the processes tab, scroll through both the apps and
the background processes and see if anything appears suspicious. . . .
On 7/12/2023 1:00 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700,
Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13
-0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might
not see it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google. I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox,
so Google isn't reaching me there. uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time.
https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no google
account! So you can't go into google settings to turn it off.
Very interesting.
There's an interesting pattern present.
Seamonkey - "Your cart is empty" is about the only response in that
corner MSEdge - "Something went wrong" in that corner. Modern Firefox
- I get the Google dialog as seen in https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB Old
Firefox - "Something went wrong"
The code then, is checking whether the browser has all the
ingredients for googlean tracking.
Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
. . .
Finally, you can open the Task Manager (right click with cursor in a
blank are of the taskbar at the bottom of your screen and then click on >>Task Manager, or just type task manager into the windows search area of
the taskbar). In the processes tab, scroll through both the apps and
the background processes and see if anything appears suspicious. . . .
It's all suspicious! I don't recognize any of it!
On 12/07/2023 05:55, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 22:22:06 -0500,
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=stop+google+box+from+popping+up
3 from the list above:
https://lifehacker.com/you-can-disable-google-sign-in-pop-ups-on-all-websites-1849913714
https://www.howtogeek.com/735152/how-to-turn-off-the-sign-in-with-google-prompt-on-websites/
https://www.makeuseof.com/stop-google-sign-in-pop-ups/
If you don't have this problem, count yourself lucky.
More than luck. My taste in Web content does not lean towards sites
that require me to login to track me, but are passing me off to Google
But they don't *require* it. I always X out the box and the sites work
fine anyhow. I'm just tired of doing that.
snip <
IIRC clicking the x to exit is the same as accepting.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700, Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote: >>>>>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might not see >>>>it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google.
I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox, so
Google isn't reaching me there.
uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time. >>>https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no google
account! So you can't go into google settings to turn it off.
Very interesting.
It has nothing to do with Google account settings.
Elsewhere in the thread, VanguardLH explained that Google supplies login >script to any Web site that wants it. I use NoScript add on. I don't see
the script offering login with Google when I don't allow script from
Google to run.
micky wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Do you mean this sort of thing, where a 3rd party site offers you to
login using your google account?
<http://andyburns.uk/misc/google-3rd-party-option.png>
I do find that annoying, especially given that I have turned off that
option within the settings of my google account
<http://andyburns.uk/misc/google-3rd-party.png>
In this case, I haven't been noting what pages do it, and no pages have
done it since my first post. So I'm not withholding anything.
The next times I get the box, I'll note what url is doing it and get
back to you.
On 7/12/2023 3:23 AM, Paul wrote:
On 7/12/2023 1:00 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700, Pothos
<fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13 -0500,
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might not see >>>>> it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google.
I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox, so
Google isn't reaching me there.
uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time.
https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no google
account! So you can't go into google settings to turn it off.
Very interesting.
There's an interesting pattern present.
Seamonkey - "Your cart is empty" is about the only response in that corner >> MSEdge - "Something went wrong" in that corner.
Modern Firefox - I get the Google dialog as seen in https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Old Firefox - "Something went wrong"
The code then, is checking whether the browser has all the
ingredients for googlean tracking.
select.html
switch(_.F(a,1))
{case 1:_.z("The specified user is not signed in.");break;
case 2:_.z("User has opted out of using Google Sign In.");break; <=== Hahaha.
case 3:_.z("The given client ID is not found.");break;
case 4:_.z("The given client ID is not allowed to use Google Sign In.");break;
case 5:_.z("The given origin is not allowed for the given client ID.");break;
case 20:_.z("The given login_uri is not allowed for the given client ID.");break;
case 6:_.z("Request from the same origin is expected.");break;
case 7:_.z("Google Sign In is only allowed with HTTPS.");break;
case 8:_.z("Parameter "+_.G(a,2)+" is not set correctly.");break;
case 9:_.z("The browser is not supported.");break;
case 12:_.z("Google Sign In does not support web view.");break;
case 14:_.z("The client is restricted to accounts within its organization.");break;
default:_.z("An unknown error occurred.")}}
The "User has opted out of using Google Sign In" . As if...
Paul
This is a pretty crack-headed method. Google just flips you the bird.
How could this possibly end well ? It's Google! Don't be Evil Knievel!
https://www.howtogeek.com/735152/how-to-turn-off-the-sign-in-with-google-prompt-on-websites/
https://support.google.com/accounts/thread/185781726/is-google-account-sign-in-prompts-overriding-opt-out?hl=en
*******
On 7/12/23 00:23, Paul wrote:
On 7/12/2023 1:00 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700,
Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13
-0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might
not see it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google. I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox,
so Google isn't reaching me there. uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time.
https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no google
account! So you can't go into google settings to turn it off.
Very interesting.
There's an interesting pattern present.
Seamonkey - "Your cart is empty" is about the only response in that
corner MSEdge - "Something went wrong" in that corner. Modern Firefox
- I get the Google dialog as seen in https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB Old
Firefox - "Something went wrong"
The code then, is checking whether the browser has all the
ingredients for googlean tracking.
You're right. I just spoofed my browser useragent to
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 >SeaMonkey/9995
and there's no Google login box at ebay any more!
I was ready to give NoScript a try, as sticks did, but this is simpler
and I don't have to learn anything new.
Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
. . .
Finally, you can open the Task Manager (right click with cursor in a
blank are of the taskbar at the bottom of your screen and then click on >>Task Manager, or just type task manager into the windows search area of
the taskbar). In the processes tab, scroll through both the apps and
the background processes and see if anything appears suspicious. . . .
It's all suspicious! I don't recognize any of it!
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 09:30:51 -0700, Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/12/23 00:23, Paul wrote:
On 7/12/2023 1:00 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700,
Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13
-0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you might
not see it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google. I search only with DuckDuckGo.
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is disabled in Firefox,
so Google isn't reaching me there. uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the time.
https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no google
account! So you can't go into google settings to turn it off.
Very interesting.
There's an interesting pattern present.
Seamonkey - "Your cart is empty" is about the only response in that
corner MSEdge - "Something went wrong" in that corner. Modern Firefox
- I get the Google dialog as seen in https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB Old
Firefox - "Something went wrong"
The code then, is checking whether the browser has all the
ingredients for googlean tracking.
You're right. I just spoofed my browser useragent to
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0
SeaMonkey/9995
This is the first I've heard of this. I'm guessing Firefox 43 is too
old for this login box to work and maybe also for some malware?
Is this what I would use: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-string-switcher/
and there's no Google login box at ebay any more!
I was ready to give NoScript a try, as sticks did, but this is simpler
and I don't have to learn anything new.
But could it have other bad side-effects?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 09:30:51 -0700, Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/12/23 00:23, Paul wrote:
On 7/12/2023 1:00 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700,
Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13
-0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you
might not see it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google. I search only with
DuckDuckGo. "Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is
disabled in Firefox, so Google isn't reaching me there.
uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the
time. https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no
google account! So you can't go into google settings to turn
it off.
Very interesting.
There's an interesting pattern present.
Seamonkey - "Your cart is empty" is about the only response in
that corner MSEdge - "Something went wrong" in that corner.
Modern Firefox - I get the Google dialog as seen in
https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB Old Firefox - "Something went wrong"
The code then, is checking whether the browser has all the
ingredients for googlean tracking.
You're right. I just spoofed my browser useragent to
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/9995
This is the first I've heard of this. I'm guessing Firefox 43 is too
old for this login box to work and maybe also for some malware?
Is this what I would use: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-string-switcher/
and there's no Google login box at ebay any more! I was ready to
give NoScript a try, as sticks did, but this is simpler and I
don't have to learn anything new.
But could it have other bad side-effects?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 00:55:38 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In this case, I haven't been noting what pages do it, and no pages have >>done it since my first post. So I'm not withholding anything.
The next times I get the box, I'll note what url is doing it and get
back to you.
car.com (or is it cars.com? Sells or discusses cars.), medium.com, So
far today.
On 7/12/23 10:10, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 09:30:51 -0700, Pothos
<fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/12/23 00:23, Paul wrote:
On 7/12/2023 1:00 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 21:45:44 -0700,
Pothos <fn@smoothwater.com> wrote:
On 7/11/23 16:34, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:13:13
-0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How do I eliminate constant google login box.
Login box where? Give a URL.
Many, or all sorts, but based on what Wannabe says, you
might not see it on the same pages I do.
I have no accounts with Google. I search only with
DuckDuckGo. "Allow pages to choose their own fonts" is
disabled in Firefox, so Google isn't reaching me there.
uBlock Origin is installed.
None of that matters, I see the login box on ebay all the
time. https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB
Yes!!! That's it! And you get that even though you have no
google account! So you can't go into google settings to turn
it off.
Very interesting.
There's an interesting pattern present.
Seamonkey - "Your cart is empty" is about the only response in
that corner MSEdge - "Something went wrong" in that corner.
Modern Firefox - I get the Google dialog as seen in
https://postimg.cc/dZ33VMVB Old Firefox - "Something went wrong"
The code then, is checking whether the browser has all the
ingredients for googlean tracking.
You're right. I just spoofed my browser useragent to
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/9995
This is the first I've heard of this. I'm guessing Firefox 43 is too
old for this login box to work and maybe also for some malware?
Paul got best results with Seamonkey, so I just tested with the first >Seamonkey UA string I found. I don't know how old it is.
Is this what I would use:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-string-switcher/
I used about:config to add a new preference named
general.useragent.override, gave it the string value for Seamonkey, and
that worked. But this fakes the UA everywhere.
With User-Agent Switcher...
4. The extension enables user-agent spoofing on specific domains only;
it is conversely possible to exclude certain domains from spoofing.
and
5. You can set per-site user-agent strings.
and there's no Google login box at ebay any more! I was ready to
give NoScript a try, as sticks did, but this is simpler and I
don't have to learn anything new.
But could it have other bad side-effects?
I'm really using Firefox,
but the User-Agent Switcher page you linked tells me
You'll need Firefox to use this extension
Download Firefox and get the extension
That's one bad side effect of misidentifying your browser everywhere.
I do not disable Javascript by default, but I could configure uBO that
way. Instead I allow only 1st-party Javascript (those that originate
from the same domain as visited). Too many sites require Javascript to
be usable, but I don't want them running scripts resourced from elsewhere.
Okay, I've learned a little, and I know my waders don't go high enough
on my legs to enter this pool. I will tolerate the boxes...there are
many worse things in the world.
If a web page really relies on UserAgent sniffing, what century is this ?
Web pages are supposed to "sniff by function". Like, ask Javascript
what version it is. Or try a Javascript construct that only the
latest Javascript understands.
On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 14:13:04 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
If a web page really relies on UserAgent sniffing, what century is this ?
I still have consulting clients who ask me to configure UA sniffing. Sometimes it's so that they can insert a banner that says a particular browser is recommended, while other times they ask me to set up web
steering so that one or more browsers get directed to one pool of
servers and other browsers get sent to another pool of servers.
Sometimes, they simply tell me what they want and I do it without
knowing why. In the end, it doesn't matter to me in the slightest. It's
a very lightweight way to start a session, from a resource perspective.
Web pages are supposed to "sniff by function". Like, ask Javascript
what version it is. Or try a Javascript construct that only the
latest Javascript understands.
Yes, that's becoming more common, but it comes at a cost. If you can get
away with sniffing the client's UA, well you can do that on the initial request since the UA is always presented to the server with every
request. However, if you're going to ignore the UA and use js to snoop
on the client's capabilities, then that typically requires an extra request-response pair. The first response to the client needs to deliver
the js payload, and the js then does a silent refresh (which is another request to the server) to deliver its results back to the server. In a
small organization, the extra request-response pair is no big deal, but
in a large organization that deals with hundreds of thousands of
concurrent requests, it can really add up. Fortunately, the load
balancer that sits in front of the web server pools can do all or most
of the additional work, so that the actual web servers don't even see
it.
That last part is very similar to how https is handled. If a client
makes an http request, the load balancer can reply directly back to the client with an https redirect, without involving any actual web server.
The client gets the redirect and silently makes another request, this
time using https. The load balancer sees the https request, and rather
than forwarding the https request to the next available server in the
pool, it makes an http request to the server. When the http response
comes back from the server, the load balancer stuffs that response into
the https session and sends it back to the client. That takes a huge
load off of the web servers and puts it on a network device, a load
balancer in this case, that is better suited to handle it.
People always talk about hitting this or that web site, not realizing
that they're almost never interacting directly with a web server, but
rather with a load balancer. It's all good, though.
VanguardLH wrote:
I do not disable Javascript by default, but I could configure uBO that
way. Instead I allow only 1st-party Javascript (those that originate
from the same domain as visited). Too many sites require Javascript to
be usable, but I don't want them running scripts resourced from elsewhere.
Given how many javascript libraries are fetched from CDNs like cdnjs/jsdelivr/unpkg/etc, I can't see a workable answer to that.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 00:55:38 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In this case, I haven't been noting what pages do it, and no pages have
done it since my first post. So I'm not withholding anything.
The next times I get the box, I'll note what url is doing it and get
back to you.
car.com (or is it cars.com? Sells or discusses cars.), medium.com, So
far today.
On 7/12/2023 1:00 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 00:55:38 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In this case, I haven't been noting what pages do it, and no pages have
done it since my first post. So I'm not withholding anything.
The next times I get the box, I'll note what url is doing it and get
back to you.
car.com (or is it cars.com? Sells or discusses cars.), medium.com, So
far today.
Micky,
I use the Privacy Badger firefox add-on to minimize tracking and
minimize accumulating tracing cookies. I also have installed and active
the AdBlock Plus and the DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials add ons. I
notice that both sites you mention (cars.com and medium.com) try to
place google tracking cookies into firefox. Both try to place >www.googletagmanager.com and medium.com tried to place two additional
google cookies. Privacy Badger blocked them. I don't get a google
login request on either of those two sites.
I'm not saying that those specific cookies are on your Firefox
installation and are responsible for your problem. But it certainly
seems like a suspicious association!
Have you tried deleting all your cookies that have "google" as part of
their name? Do you have Firefox configured to block all 3rd party
cookies?
Even if you install Privacy Badger, if you are retaining a
cookie or cookies that cause your unwanted google login area, you may
still have your problem.
But on the subject of tracking cookies, I still don't understand the
exact problem. IIUC, it just means that the ads I get will be targeted
at me, based on the sites I visit, instead of just random ads. I don't
mind that. Is there are reason to mind it that I haven't thought of? In
a way targeted ads might be interesting, compared to random ads.
So, using uBO with the blocklists to which I have it subscribed got rid
of the Google login popup. I do not disable Javascript by default, but
I could configure uBO that way. Instead I allow only 1st-party
Javascript (those that originate from the same domain as visited). Too
many sites require Javascript to be usable, but I don't want them
running scripts resourced from elsewhere.
I have uBO subscribed to the following blocklists:
- uBlock filters: ads, privacy, quick fixes, and unbreak (badware risks
is /not/ subscribed).
- AdGuard ads.
- EasyList
- AdGuard URL Tracking Protection
- EasyPrivacy
- Online Malicious URL
- Phishing URL
- PUP Domains
- AdGuard: annoyance, cookie notices (*), mobile app banners, other
annoyances, popup overlays (**), social media, widgets.
- EasyList: annoyances, chat widgets, cookie notices (*), newsletter
notices, notifications, other annoyances, social widgets.
- Fanboy: anti-Facebook.
- uBlock: annoyances.
(*) Used to custom subscribe to a cookie notice blocklist, but not after AdGuard and EasyList rolled that blocklist into their own.
(**) Hmm, the Google login prompts are popup overlays.
I do not subscribe to any of the hosts file (e.g., Peter Lowe's) since
they don't update as often, and are usually too aggressive. I didn't
bother to show how many filters out of the total available per blocklist
were getting used. uBO will remove duplicates across blocklists. Even
with duplicates removed, the total number of filters across all the subscribed blocklists is:
241,437 network filters
218,098 cosmetic filters
total = 459,535 filters
That far exceeds the limits imposed by Manifest v3 (30,000 per
extension, and 300,000 total) that Google is pushing under the guise of improved security. The 300K total limit eliminates an add-on from
splitting itself to load separate instances to overcome the limit. If Mozilla drops Manifest v2 support, users will suffer while rude sites
will win.
So, with uBO, how I configured it, and with the blocklists to which I
have it subscribe, I don't get those annoying Google login popups. I
didn't bother top open the blocklists to see which might be most likely
the ones that are killing off the Google login popup.
I removed my WSL machine, as part of a scorched earth approach
to removing my first personal email account from the WSL machine.
And at least that much has worked. So far. I dumped Ubuntu2004 WSL
and installed Ubuntu2204 WSL (still in support). This is part of
running two copies of Firefox and walling them off from one another.
When I go to google search, I'm already logged in, with the
correct gmail identity.
I did not get the Google login popup at medium.com with uBO enabled, but
it did appear when uBO was disabled and the page refreshed. I reenabled
uBO and refreshed the page, and the login popup did not appear.
So, using uBO with the blocklists to which I have it subscribed got rid
of the Google login popup.
...
I have uBO subscribed to the following blocklists:
- uBlock filters: ads, privacy, quick fixes, and unbreak (badware risks
is /not/ subscribed).
- AdGuard ads.
- EasyList
- AdGuard URL Tracking Protection
- EasyPrivacy
- Online Malicious URL
- Phishing URL
- PUP Domains
- AdGuard: annoyance, cookie notices (*), mobile app banners, other
annoyances, popup overlays (**), social media, widgets.
- EasyList: annoyances, chat widgets, cookie notices (*), newsletter
notices, notifications, other annoyances, social widgets.
- Fanboy: anti-Facebook.
- uBlock: annoyances.
(*) Used to custom subscribe to a cookie notice blocklist, but not after AdGuard and EasyList rolled that blocklist into their own.
(**) Hmm, the Google login prompts are popup overlays.
Your uBO settings are duplicated here, and
https://www.mercurynews.com/ is showing me the Google login box anyway.
Not ebay any more, not medium.com, but Mercury News has defeated the
filters.
The box isn't fixed to the page so that it moves up out of view when I
scroll down, as it used to. It now floats there at the upper right corner.
On 7/12/23 15:33, VanguardLH wrote:
...
I did not get the Google login popup at medium.com with uBO enabled, but
it did appear when uBO was disabled and the page refreshed. I reenabled uBO and refreshed the page, and the login popup did not appear.
So, using uBO with the blocklists to which I have it subscribed got rid
of the Google login popup.
...
I have uBO subscribed to the following blocklists:
- uBlock filters: ads, privacy, quick fixes, and unbreak (badware risks
is /not/ subscribed).
- AdGuard ads.
- EasyList
- AdGuard URL Tracking Protection
- EasyPrivacy
- Online Malicious URL
- Phishing URL
- PUP Domains
- AdGuard: annoyance, cookie notices (*), mobile app banners, other
annoyances, popup overlays (**), social media, widgets.
- EasyList: annoyances, chat widgets, cookie notices (*), newsletter
notices, notifications, other annoyances, social widgets.
- Fanboy: anti-Facebook.
- uBlock: annoyances.
(*) Used to custom subscribe to a cookie notice blocklist, but not after AdGuard and EasyList rolled that blocklist into their own.
(**) Hmm, the Google login prompts are popup overlays.
Your uBO settings are duplicated here, and
https://www.mercurynews.com/ is showing me the Google login box anyway.
Not ebay any more, not medium.com, but Mercury News has defeated the
filters.
The box isn't fixed to the page so that it moves up out of view when I
scroll down, as it used to. It now floats there at the upper right corner.
- at least for me - in (Microsoft) Edge, the Google login box is
*not* shown for these sites.
and (Google) Chrome is tied to my Google Account(s) so that's not a
useful test.
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