• Is WeTransfer the best free no-registration large-file transfer service

    From Lord Vader@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 5 05:56:36 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Now how can I send them to my friends who want to discuss them?
    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service.

    This says the only thing it needs is the two people's email addresses. https://www.cloudwards.net/how-to-use-wetransfer/

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Lord Vader on Tue Jul 4 17:15:10 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/2023 4:56 PM, Lord Vader wrote:
    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Now how can I send them to my friends who want to discuss them?
    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service.

    This says the only thing it needs is the two people's email addresses. https://www.cloudwards.net/how-to-use-wetransfer/

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?


    With your favorite ZIP program, you can create an output from the
    ZIP program, of limited size.

    You could take a 10MB file, and make five 2MB ZIP files. When
    the five files are presented to the unZIP program, they can convert
    the five files, back to one file again.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/G9wMh8mL/segmented-zip.gif

    Paul

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  • From Big Al@21:1/5 to this is what Lord Vader on Tue Jul 4 18:10:38 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/23 16:56, this is what Lord Vader wrote:
    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Now how can I send them to my friends who want to discuss them?
    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service.

    This says the only thing it needs is the two people's email addresses. https://www.cloudwards.net/how-to-use-wetransfer/

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?
    Do you have one drive? or Google Drive? They both allow gigs of space.
    You can share the files once you upload them.

    I haven't use it in a long while but when sharing, you give the email address and it sends an email to them with a link
    for them to download the files. IIRC.
    --
    Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon 5.6.8
    Al

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  • From Nic@21:1/5 to Paul on Tue Jul 4 17:47:13 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/23 5:15 PM, Paul wrote:
    On 7/4/2023 4:56 PM, Lord Vader wrote:
    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Now how can I send them to my friends who want to discuss them?
    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service.

    This says the only thing it needs is the two people's email addresses.
    https://www.cloudwards.net/how-to-use-wetransfer/

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?


    With your favorite ZIP program, you can create an output from the
    ZIP program, of limited size.

    You could take a 10MB file, and make five 2MB ZIP files. When
    the five files are presented to the unZIP program, they can convert
    the five files, back to one file again.

       [Picture]

        https://i.postimg.cc/G9wMh8mL/segmented-zip.gif

      Paul
    Best secure method out there.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Big Al@21:1/5 to this is what Nic on Tue Jul 4 18:08:14 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/23 17:47, this is what Nic wrote:
    On 7/4/23 5:15 PM, Paul wrote:
    On 7/4/2023 4:56 PM, Lord Vader wrote:
    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Now how can I send them to my friends who want to discuss them?
    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service.

    This says the only thing it needs is the two people's email addresses.
    https://www.cloudwards.net/how-to-use-wetransfer/

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?


    With your favorite ZIP program, you can create an output from the
    ZIP program, of limited size.

    You could take a 10MB file, and make five 2MB ZIP files. When
    the five files are presented to the unZIP program, they can convert
    the five files, back to one file again.

       [Picture]

        https://i.postimg.cc/G9wMh8mL/segmented-zip.gif

      Paul
    Best secure method out there.
    Other than giving away 2 email addresses.
    --
    Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon 5.6.8
    Al

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Nic on Tue Jul 4 18:18:42 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/2023 5:47 PM, Nic wrote:
    On 7/4/23 5:15 PM, Paul wrote:
    On 7/4/2023 4:56 PM, Lord Vader wrote:
    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Now how can I send them to my friends who want to discuss them?
    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service.

    This says the only thing it needs is the two people's email addresses.
    https://www.cloudwards.net/how-to-use-wetransfer/

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?


    With your favorite ZIP program, you can create an output from the
    ZIP program, of limited size.

    You could take a 10MB file, and make five 2MB ZIP files. When
    the five files are presented to the unZIP program, they can convert
    the five files, back to one file again.

       [Picture]

        https://i.postimg.cc/G9wMh8mL/segmented-zip.gif

      Paul
    Best secure method out there.

    These transfer schemes can't last too long.

    Mozilla had one, related to Firefox, and they had to
    shut that down.

    They're just too hard to police, and keep the authorities happy.

    Paul

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  • From Nic@21:1/5 to Big Al on Tue Jul 4 18:17:53 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/23 6:08 PM, Big Al wrote:
    On 7/4/23 17:47, this is what Nic wrote:
    On 7/4/23 5:15 PM, Paul wrote:
    On 7/4/2023 4:56 PM, Lord Vader wrote:
    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Now how can I send them to my friends who want to discuss them?
    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service. >>>>
    This says the only thing it needs is the two people's email addresses. >>>> https://www.cloudwards.net/how-to-use-wetransfer/

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer? >>>>

    With your favorite ZIP program, you can create an output from the
    ZIP program, of limited size.

    You could take a 10MB file, and make five 2MB ZIP files. When
    the five files are presented to the unZIP program, they can convert
    the five files, back to one file again.

       [Picture]

        https://i.postimg.cc/G9wMh8mL/segmented-zip.gif

      Paul
    Best secure method out there.
    Other than giving away 2 email addresses.
    Would you trust the cure for cancer to your method?

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  • From Oscar Mayer@21:1/5 to Lord Vader on Tue Jul 4 18:19:37 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 05:56:36 +0900, Lord Vader wrote:

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?

    If you have the recipients' email addresses protonmail allows up to 100 attachments in a single email with a file size limit of 25MB per email.

    If you don't have the other person's email, then you can try UFile which
    has a maximum of 5GB per file and a maximum of 10 files per URL. https://ufile.io/ (URLs to your unregistered guest uploads last 30 days)

    If you don't mind sharing emails for both parties, WeTransfer is 2GB max. https://wetransfer.com/ (the mail transfer file only lasts 7 days)

    There are probably much better alternatives that others know more about,
    where I would hope others know of a way to transfer epub style large files WITHOUT needing to know the other person's email address (or even yours).

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Nic@21:1/5 to Paul on Tue Jul 4 18:33:30 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/23 6:18 PM, Paul wrote:
    On 7/4/2023 5:47 PM, Nic wrote:
    On 7/4/23 5:15 PM, Paul wrote:
    On 7/4/2023 4:56 PM, Lord Vader wrote:
    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Now how can I send them to my friends who want to discuss them?
    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service. >>>>
    This says the only thing it needs is the two people's email addresses. >>>> https://www.cloudwards.net/how-to-use-wetransfer/

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer? >>>>

    With your favorite ZIP program, you can create an output from the
    ZIP program, of limited size.

    You could take a 10MB file, and make five 2MB ZIP files. When
    the five files are presented to the unZIP program, they can convert
    the five files, back to one file again.

       [Picture]

        https://i.postimg.cc/G9wMh8mL/segmented-zip.gif

      Paul
    Best secure method out there.

    These transfer schemes can't last too long.

    Mozilla had one, related to Firefox, and they had to
    shut that down.

    They're just too hard to police, and keep the authorities happy.

       Paul
    The American Indians could put their ear to the rail and tell you when
    the train would pass by this place.  It is who employs the authorities
    that are uncomfortable, not knowing everything that could upset their
    world view of the power structure.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Nic@21:1/5 to Oscar Mayer on Tue Jul 4 18:37:10 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/23 6:19 PM, Oscar Mayer wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 05:56:36 +0900, Lord Vader wrote:

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?

    If you have the recipients' email addresses protonmail allows up to 100 attachments in a single email with a file size limit of 25MB per email.

    If you don't have the other person's email, then you can try UFile which
    has a maximum of 5GB per file and a maximum of 10 files per URL. https://ufile.io/  (URLs to your unregistered guest uploads last 30 days)

    If you don't mind sharing emails for both parties, WeTransfer is 2GB max. https://wetransfer.com/ (the mail transfer file only lasts 7 days)

    There are probably much better alternatives that others know more
    about, where I would hope others know of a way to transfer epub style
    large files
    WITHOUT needing to know the other person's email address (or even yours).
    re:the mail transfer file only lasts 7 days, that is so naive, given the digital rate of copy/paste, your secret would no longer be a secret
    except to dumbbells like you.

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  • From justaW@21:1/5 to Lord Vader on Tue Jul 4 18:56:39 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 04-Jul-23 4:56 PM, Lord Vader wrote:
    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Now how can I send them to my friends who want to discuss them?
    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service.

    This says the only thing it needs is the two people's email addresses. https://www.cloudwards.net/how-to-use-wetransfer/

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?

    Just off the top of my head, but these are file sharing sites which do
    not require registration. Some of them delete the files after a few days without it being downloaded unless you register or pay;

    mediafire, gofile, bunkrr, pixeldrain, 1fichier, cyberfile, anonfiles

    Though you could also use google drive, which is 5gb free. Onedrive
    likely does something similar too for free version.

    And as an aside, a 5MB file isn't really 'large'.. Photos you can take
    on a modern smartphone are often 10Mb in size. Using any of those above,
    or ideally just sharing them on google drive would be the best bet imo

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Nic@21:1/5 to justaW on Tue Jul 4 19:00:04 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/23 6:56 PM, justaW wrote:
    On 04-Jul-23 4:56 PM, Lord Vader wrote:
    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Now how can I send them to my friends who want to discuss them?
    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service.

    This says the only thing it needs is the two people's email addresses.
    https://www.cloudwards.net/how-to-use-wetransfer/

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?

    Just off the top of my head, but these are file sharing sites which do
    not require registration. Some of them delete the files after a few
    days without it being downloaded unless you register or pay;

    mediafire, gofile, bunkrr, pixeldrain, 1fichier, cyberfile, anonfiles

    Though you could also use google drive, which is 5gb free. Onedrive
    likely does something similar too for free version.

    And as an aside, a 5MB file isn't really 'large'.. Photos you can take
    on a modern smartphone are often 10Mb in size. Using any of those
    above, or ideally just sharing them on google drive would be the best
    bet imo
    Amazing, another knuckle head falls out of the trees.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to Big Al on Tue Jul 4 19:00:27 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/2023 6:10 PM, Big Al wrote:
    On 7/4/23 16:56, this is what Lord Vader wrote:
    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Now how can I send them to my friends who want to discuss them?
    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service.

    This says the only thing it needs is the two people's email addresses.
    https://www.cloudwards.net/how-to-use-wetransfer/

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?
    Do you have one drive?  or Google Drive?  They both allow gigs of space. You can share the files once you upload them.

    I haven't use it in a long while but when sharing, you give the email
    address and it sends an email to them with a link for them to download
    the files.  IIRC.


    I use Google Drive. Every Google Drive account can have 15 GB of free
    cloud storage. You can open multiple Google Drive accounts by using
    different email accounts, i.e. if you open 10 Google Drive accounts, you
    will have a total of 150 GB of free cloud storage. That is 10 x 15 GB,
    not a single contiguous 150 GB.

    Google Drive will create a virtual drive with a drive letter for each
    Google Drive account in "My Computer". Google Drive will put a startup
    file so that every time you start your computer, you will see the Google
    Drive virtue drive letter(s). I have a habit disabling the Google Drive
    startup executable file, and only manually start the Google Drive
    executable file when I need to access Google Drive.

    I have tried some other free cloud storage services. They tend to have a
    habit of nagging me to subscribe to their paid service. Google Drive
    does not nag me for money.

    After I have put something in Google Drive in the cloud, I can get a
    link of the file for my friend to download. It can be "anybody" who
    receives the link, or I can specify who can actually download the file
    with that link.

    If you are afraid Google is spying on the content of your files in the
    cloud, you can make .7z or .rar files with your own password. Actually,
    it is better to use .7z or .rar rather than .zip format, because Windows "Defender" will inspect the content of .zip file when you are download
    or uploading the .zip file, which will inevitably slow down the download
    and upload.

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  • From kelown@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 4 17:47:17 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service.

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.

    Incorrect. The file size limit is 2GB (gigabytes) for free
    non-registered use.

    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

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  • From Jack Symonds@21:1/5 to Big Al on Wed Jul 5 00:05:47 2023
    On 04/07/2023 23:08, Big Al wrote:
    Other than giving away 2 email addresses.

    Mike thinks you are stupid for sharing people's email address on 3rd
    party website. Read the thread on "Windows offline contacts program".
    According to him everybody on this newsgroup are stupid. We are all part
    of 999 from his sample of 1000. The 1 is himself who is not stupid.

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  • From kelown@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 4 18:18:49 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?

    WITHOUT needing to know the other person's email address (or even yours).

    gofile.io - no emails needed, no registration required, no limit on file
    size or #uploads, multifile uploads

    file.io - no emails needed, no registration required, 2 GB upload limit,
    can set expiration time

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  • From Charles Jack Jones@21:1/5 to kelown on Wed Jul 5 05:05:25 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 18:18:49 -0500, kelown wrote:

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?

    WITHOUT needing to know the other person's email address (or even yours).

    gofile.io - no emails needed, no registration required, no limit on file
    size or #uploads, multifile uploads

    file.io - no emails needed, no registration required, 2 GB upload limit,
    can set expiration time

    Nice. Both are nice. Very nice.

    Minor detail. The GoFile FAQ says the expiry is 10 days after the data
    becomes inactive but that's long enough for an individual file transfer. https://gofile.io/faq

    For how long are my files available on gofile?

    As long as your files are regularly downloaded by different users on a
    weekly basis, they will not be deleted. If a file is no longer downloaded,
    it becomes inactive and is subject to deletion after 10 days. If you wish
    to store your files permanently, you may upgrade your account from your
    profile page.

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  • From Neil@21:1/5 to Paul on Tue Jul 4 23:12:57 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/2023 6:18 PM, Paul wrote:
    These transfer schemes can't last too long.

    Mozilla had one, related to Firefox, and they had to
    shut that down.

    They're just too hard to police, and keep the authorities happy.

    I suspect all the transfer sites have a policy of no copyrighted material. Don't know if they enforce that, but an ebook would have a copyright page.

    I guess the guy could use encryption to obfuscate the file contents.
    Would 7zip encryption be the suggested method for the guy to use?
    --
    best regards,

    Neil

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  • From Mickey D@21:1/5 to a wise man on Tue Jul 4 23:18:54 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 19:00:27 -0400, a wise man wrote:

    If you are afraid Google is spying on the content of your files in the
    cloud, you can make .7z or .rar files with your own password. Actually,
    it is better to use .7z or .rar rather than .zip format, because Windows "Defender" will inspect the content of .zip file when you are download
    or uploading the .zip file, which will inevitably slow down the download
    and upload.

    Assuming the uploader is proficient and assuming the downloader is a noob, which is the best format for noobs on an iPhone, Android, Windows or Mac?

    Is there a free easily used 7z or rar extractor for all the platforms?

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  • From Falafel Balls@21:1/5 to Nic on Wed Jul 5 06:48:06 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 5/7/2023, Nic wrote:

    Though you could also use google drive, which is 5gb free. Onedrive
    likely does something similar too for free version.

    Amazing, another knuckle head falls out of the trees.

    Doubt google drive or one drive are viable given the question & ngs.
    Also probably safe to assume files need to be protected with a password.

    Which is perhaps why the op omitted google anything and which means the OP
    will likely be posting the uri's to a suitable forum in some anonymous way.

    Given basic normal privacy/anonymity assumptions, encryption will be needed
    for the file where the decryption by unknown users is the problem to solve.

    Android, being linux, has many tools that will open all protected formats. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rarlab.rar https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sociosoft.unzip https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.zdevs.zarchive

    For ios the files tool will open zip files but it won't open rar files.
    But the documents tool many ios users already have does open rar files. https://apps.apple.com/app/documents-file-manager-app/id364901807

    For the iphone, other good third-party tools might be zip or izip. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/zip-rar-file-extractor/id769409043 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/izip-zip-unzip-unrar/id413971331

    Overall probably the best single free tool on all the platforms is winzip. https://www.winzip.com/en/all-products/

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Mickey D on Wed Jul 5 02:13:11 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/2023 11:18 PM, Mickey D wrote:
    On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 19:00:27 -0400, a wise man wrote:

    If you are afraid Google is spying on the content of your files in the
    cloud, you can make .7z or .rar files with your own password. Actually,
    it is better to use .7z or .rar rather than .zip format, because Windows
    "Defender" will inspect the content of .zip file when you are download
    or uploading the .zip file, which will inevitably slow down the download
    and upload.

    Assuming the uploader is proficient and assuming the downloader is a noob, which is the best format for noobs on an iPhone, Android, Windows or Mac?

    Is there a free easily used 7z or rar extractor for all the platforms?


    Isn't there an SDK for 7Z ?

    Depending on what platforms that supports, that
    would be one way to allow others to write converters.
    If the SDK is only for two platforms, at a guess
    you'll only get tools for two platforms.

    I don't think anyone wants to drop to command line for this stuff...
    Now, what is the GUI equivalent of this ? Dunno. It might be 7Z Ultra,
    but I can't be sure. Maybe it's 7Z Fast ? There's no crypto in that one.
    The crypto step (the grinding), comes after the compression step.
    Once it's encrypted, you cannot compress it further.

    "7z.exe" a -t7z -m0=LZMA2:d64k:fb32 -ms=8m -mmt=30 -mx=1 -- "F:\BACKUP" "D:\Source"

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Neil on Wed Jul 5 01:34:44 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/2023 11:12 PM, Neil wrote:
    On 7/4/2023 6:18 PM, Paul wrote:
    These transfer schemes can't last too long.

    Mozilla had one, related to Firefox, and they had to
    shut that down.

    They're just too hard to police, and keep the authorities happy.

    I suspect all the transfer sites have a policy of no copyrighted material. Don't know if they enforce that, but an ebook would have a copyright page.

    I guess the guy could use encryption to obfuscate the file contents.
    Would 7zip encryption be the suggested method for the guy to use?

    The mechanical aspect, the SHA256, is strong enough.

    There might have been a couple issues with key preparation.

    If there are release notes for 7-ZIP, you might be able
    to trace the history on that part. I've seen articles
    on tech sites about 7ZIP crypto.

    The problem with crypto, is there just aren't enough experts
    when you need them. Igor is a whiz at compression and streaming,
    but I don't think he really signed on for the crypto. And that's
    where the community can help. Even some of the standards bodies
    have made crypto mistakes, and if they'd presented their work
    to the public, there are people out there who can quickly
    pick apart the mistakes.

    Generally a sign you've fucked up, is if you find someone
    "selling software to crack 7ZIP crypto" :-) That's the easiest
    way to know you've made a mistake.

    Is it better than the trivially crackable 40 bit WinZIP stuff ? YES :-)
    It's at least that good, maybe even better. Only the latest WinZIP method,
    has a notion of security to it. Adobe Acrobat is in a similar mess, many
    bits not so strong, maybe only the last one needs to be brute forced
    with a GPU. Brute forcing the 7Z method won't help you, however, if
    you have a way of guessing the password or using a dictionary attack,
    it might fall faster.

    At least, don't use 12345678 for the password, OK ?

    Another option, is to do the crypto separately.

    Paul

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  • From Incubus@21:1/5 to Paul on Wed Jul 5 07:24:10 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 2023-07-05, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    Is it better than the trivially crackable 40 bit WinZIP stuff ? YES :-)
    At least, don't use 12345678 for the password, OK ?
    Another option, is to do the crypto separately.

    I think the encryption just needs to be 'good enough' to get past the
    copyright censors for the few days that the file will be on the server.

    The only other issue is you don't know what software the recipient uses.
    So whatever encryption is used, it has to work on all 5 systems out there.

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  • From Zaidy036@21:1/5 to Paul on Wed Jul 5 07:36:14 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On 7/4/2023 4:56 PM, Lord Vader wrote:
    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Now how can I send them to my friends who want to discuss them?
    One of my friends suggested the WeTransfer free file transfer service.

    This says the only thing it needs is the two people's email addresses.
    https://www.cloudwards.net/how-to-use-wetransfer/

    That looks good as the only limitation is the 2MB file size limit.
    And it doesn't need any registration to transfer the large files.

    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?


    With your favorite ZIP program, you can create an output from the
    ZIP program, of limited size.

    You could take a 10MB file, and make five 2MB ZIP files. When
    the five files are presented to the unZIP program, they can convert
    the five files, back to one file again.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/G9wMh8mL/segmented-zip.gif

    Paul


    If you use DropBox access to file can be granted to email addresses.


    --
    Zaidy036

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Paul on Wed Jul 5 08:55:46 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    Paul wrote:

    Isn't there an SDK for 7Z ?

    There was (presume still is) a command line tool as an add-on for IZarc,
    not sure if there's a callable API though?

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Incubus on Wed Jul 5 11:02:55 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/5/2023 3:24 AM, Incubus wrote:
    On 2023-07-05, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    Is it better than the trivially crackable 40 bit WinZIP stuff ? YES :-)
    At least, don't use 12345678 for the password, OK ?
    Another option, is to do the crypto separately.

    I think the encryption just needs to be 'good enough' to get past the copyright censors for the few days that the file will be on the server.

    The only other issue is you don't know what software the recipient uses.
    So whatever encryption is used, it has to work on all 5 systems out there.

    Neither of the high-compressors, is a public standard.

    Which complicates the ability of others to write decompressors.

    Decompressors may be available free (RAR only charges for compressors),
    but the platform issue is something else entirely.

    WinZIP stands the best chance of being cross-platform, due to its
    longevity. But then, is the latest change to it, updated into
    all the platforms. That, I don't know. I'm the guy who doesn't
    own a smartphone, so those ecosystems remain a mystery to me.

    If someone needs a container for distribution, they lean on ZIP
    rather than BZ2, 7Z, or RAR. BZ2 is a bit slow on compression.

    ZIP is used all sorts of places, but not all of it. Office documents
    (.docx) use ZIP inside. Java .jar files are likely ZIP inside. Any time
    a file format needs a "container", it seems to get used for that,
    but that is likely to be sans-crypto. The backup programs don't
    seem to use it, as they prefer something even lighter as a
    compressor (speed-transparent).

    *******

    I seem to remember playing around with GPG perhaps (GNU Privacy Guard?).
    I had some tool installed, fed it a couple test cases, and unknown to
    me, it ran a compressor on my test file first, then encrypted the file.
    (I don't recollect this being documented in the manual. I expected crypto-only.)
    And you could specify something like RSA2048 or RSA4096, something like
    that. At first, I couldn't figure out what the tool was doing, because
    I happened to feed it a file full of zeros for my first test case.
    It compressed the hell out of that, in no time flat, and "the screen blinked" and it was done. And I figured "oh, it must still be running". I couldn't figure out where the output went, and so on. It's possible something
    like that is available on a few platforms. Perhaps the recipient-side experience will be less-comedic :-)

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Wed Jul 5 11:19:05 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/5/2023 3:55 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
    Paul wrote:

    Isn't there an SDK for 7Z ?

    There was (presume still is) a command line tool as an add-on for IZarc, not sure if there's a callable API though?

    They name the platform supported for the various files here.
    A few console versions are available.

    https://www.7-zip.org/download.html

    Download .7z any / Windows 7-Zip Source code
    Download .7z any / Windows LZMA SDK: (C, C++, C#, Java)

    Download .tar.xz 64-bit Linux x86-64 7-Zip for Linux: console version Download .tar.xz 32-bit Linux x86
    Download .tar.xz 64-bit Linux arm64
    Download .tar.xz 32-bit Linux arm

    Download .tar.xz macOS (arm64 / x86-64) 7-Zip for MacOS: console version Download .exe Windows 7zr.exe (x86) 7-Zip for Windows: console executable

    What bothered me a bit, is the Linux version didn't seem to have
    the multithreaded compressor and multithreaded decompressor, like
    on the Windows version. And that suggests to me, a person who
    wants "five platforms" is going to need to test all five of those
    for themselves, just in case the experience is rougher than expected.

    Paul

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Paul on Wed Jul 5 15:24:11 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    [...]

    [About WeTransfer[.com]:]

    These transfer schemes can't last too long.

    WeTransfer exists since 2009, so quite a long time.

    <https://wetransfer.com/corporate/about> See the 'History' section.

    Mozilla had one, related to Firefox, and they had to
    shut that down.

    They're just too hard to police, and keep the authorities happy.

    We're Dutch, we can't be shut down! :-)

    FWIW: Yes, I use WeTransfer (once in a while). No, *I* am not 'Arlen'.

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  • From Incubus@21:1/5 to Paul on Wed Jul 5 16:57:51 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 2023-07-05, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    WinZIP stands the best chance of being cross-platform, due to its
    longevity. But then, is the latest change to it, updated into
    all the platforms. That, I don't know. I'm the guy who doesn't
    own a smartphone, so those ecosystems remain a mystery to me.

    If we assume one third of people on web forums is under 40 while the next
    third is over 40, where the third third is us guys over 80, things change.

    Those under 40 do almost EVERYTHING on their phones.
    Above 40, they use both.

    It's only we older ones double that age who shun the tiny phone screens.

    I only ran a quick search but, unfortunately, I don't think there is any unzipper that has a tool on all the five platforms in common use today.

    I agree with you on your suggestion of WinZip having the best chance of
    being able to be run with encryption all five platforms can decrypt easily.

    [1] https://www.winzip.com/en/windows/
    [2] (I was surprised that it's apparently not ported to linux)
    [3] https://www.winzip.com/en/mac/
    [4] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.winzip.android
    [5] https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/winzip/id500637987?mt=8

    But the only platform that didn't have WinZip when I just looked was Linux,
    but nobody on Linux will have any problem unzipping a file so that's OK.

    It's iOS users who will have the most problems (which is always the case).

    I think the only "security" uploaders need is to hide the copyright page.
    If they're doing more nefarious stuff, then this is the wrong group to ask.

    It would have been nice to find all platforms using the same tool though.

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  • From Mickey D@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 5 13:05:27 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 07:36:14 -0000 (UTC), Zaidy036 wrote:

    If you use DropBox access to file can be granted to email addresses.

    If you're uploading and downloading from torrents, then there's a chance
    that it's copyrighted so using any email address is not the best solution.

    People should probably use a vpn, then a killswitch, then a tor browser to
    get the magnet, then a bittorrent client to get the torrent, then encrypt
    it to hide the content before uploading the encrypted file to the share
    sites while still on VPN or at least with a privacy proxy browser and then communicate the resulting time-expiry share url with the recipients in a come-and-get-it forum message set up with a throwaway email if possible.

    Did I miss anything?

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  • From DanS@21:1/5 to Charles Jack Jones on Wed Jul 5 18:15:00 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    Charles Jack Jones <charliejackjones@cjj.com> wrote in news:u82mkh$2s44b$1@news.samoylyk.net:

    Minor detail. The GoFile FAQ says the expiry is 10 days
    after the data becomes inactive but that's long enough for
    an individual file transfer. https://gofile.io/faq

    For how long are my files available on gofile?

    As long as your files are regularly downloaded by different
    users on a weekly basis, they will not be deleted. If a
    file is no longer downloaded, it becomes inactive and is
    subject to deletion after 10 days. If you wish to store
    your files permanently, you may upgrade your account from
    your profile page.

    I don't have a problem with expiration...but 10 days sounds a little short.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YiSBHb29kIEd1eSDwn5iJ?@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 5 18:00:00 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    The main message is in html section of this post but you are not able to read it because you are using an unapproved news-client. Please try these links to amuse youself:

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/07/2023 21:56, Lord Vader (a.k.a Arlen) wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:u82110$tako$1@novabbs.org">
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
    But is there something better out there that competes with WeTransfer?
    </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Nothing can beat Google Drive or Microsoft's OneDrive. They are
    reliable and download/upload is the fastest you can get.<br>
    <br>
    The good thing is they have nearly 2 billion users on their platform
    and so privacy is the best currently available in the tech industry.<br>
    <br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/microsoft-365/onedrive/online-cloud-storage">&lt;https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/microsoft-365/onedrive/online-cloud-storage&gt;</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://www.google.co.uk/intl/en-GB/drive/">&lt;https://www.google.co.uk/intl/en-GB/drive/&gt;</a><br>
    <br>
    If you didn't know either of them then clearly you are living on a
    different planet. In our universe everybody knows both of these
    services. Even people in Africa or Middle East knows both of them.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Good luck.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="top">Arrest</div>
    <div class="bottom">Dictator Putin</div>
    <br>
    <div class="top">We Stand</div>
    <div class="bottom">With Ukraine</div>
    <br>
    <div class="top border1">Stop Putin</div>
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Wed Jul 5 16:25:00 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/5/2023 11:24 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    [...]

    [About WeTransfer[.com]:]

    These transfer schemes can't last too long.

    WeTransfer exists since 2009, so quite a long time.

    <https://wetransfer.com/corporate/about> See the 'History' section.

    Mozilla had one, related to Firefox, and they had to
    shut that down.

    They're just too hard to police, and keep the authorities happy.

    We're Dutch, we can't be shut down! :-)

    FWIW: Yes, I use WeTransfer (once in a while). No, *I* am not 'Arlen'.


    If the WeTransfer is free, how is the bandwidth paid for ?

    The site I use to post photos, their bandwidth bill per month, is $30,000 . That's why you ask the question, how some of these services are supported. Real, significant, sums of money are involved.

    At one point, my photo site "lost" its domain. An American takedown
    at a guess. I would not make too many "proud declarations" if I were you.
    It could be, there is an unlocked door on the side of the WeTransfer
    site, and some unsavory individuals enter via that door. And I'm not
    talking about the cleaning staff either.

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Incubus on Wed Jul 5 16:18:13 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/5/2023 12:57 PM, Incubus wrote:
    On 2023-07-05, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    WinZIP stands the best chance of being cross-platform, due to its
    longevity. But then, is the latest change to it, updated into
    all the platforms. That, I don't know. I'm the guy who doesn't
    own a smartphone, so those ecosystems remain a mystery to me.

    If we assume one third of people on web forums is under 40 while the next third is over 40, where the third third is us guys over 80, things change.

    Those under 40 do almost EVERYTHING on their phones.
    Above 40, they use both.

    It's only we older ones double that age who shun the tiny phone screens.

    I only ran a quick search but, unfortunately, I don't think there is any unzipper that has a tool on all the five platforms in common use today.

    I agree with you on your suggestion of WinZip having the best chance of
    being able to be run with encryption all five platforms can decrypt easily.

    [1] https://www.winzip.com/en/windows/
    [2] (I was surprised that it's apparently not ported to linux)
    [3] https://www.winzip.com/en/mac/
    [4] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.winzip.android
    [5] https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/winzip/id500637987?mt=8

    But the only platform that didn't have WinZip when I just looked was Linux, but nobody on Linux will have any problem unzipping a file so that's OK.

    It's iOS users who will have the most problems (which is always the case).

    I think the only "security" uploaders need is to hide the copyright page.
    If they're doing more nefarious stuff, then this is the wrong group to ask.

    It would have been nice to find all platforms using the same tool though.

    Linux has Archive Manager and the base of that would be "zlib" or so.
    There has likely been a library for that, for some time.

    *******

    I like the Apple link.

    The promo material sez:

    Whether you receive a Zip, Zipx, 7z, RAR or LHA file as an email attachment,
    or want to extract download and view the contents of a
    Zip, Zipx, 7z, RAR or LHA file from the web, just “Open with WinZip”.

    Then, one of the reviews sez:

    Even though it’s 2023 and everyone uses zip now, someone gave me a .7z file,
    so I thought I’d try this to extract it. “Extract” immediately froze the app.
    “Extract to here” gave me a loading bar that was stuck at zero and the
    app still froze when I tried to cancel it several minutes later.

    It all sounds so normal.

    I would be willing to bet, the file was encrypted, and
    what was supposed to happen is a dialog was supposed to show,
    asking for a password.

    if the reviewer had tested a WinZIP file with AES256 protection,
    there would likely be a dialog box (because the developer
    has precise control of their own libraries). At least some
    of the foreign formats, the support path for those
    might be different.

    Paul

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  • From Nic@21:1/5 to Falafel Balls on Wed Jul 5 19:09:39 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/4/23 11:48 PM, Falafel Balls wrote:
    On 5/7/2023, Nic wrote:

    Though you could also use google drive, which is 5gb free. Onedrive
    likely does something similar too for free version.
    Amazing, another knuckle head falls out of the trees.
    Doubt google drive or one drive are viable given the question & ngs.
    Also probably safe to assume files need to be protected with a password.

    Which is perhaps why the op omitted google anything and which means the OP will likely be posting the uri's to a suitable forum in some anonymous way.

    Given basic normal privacy/anonymity assumptions, encryption will be needed for the file where the decryption by unknown users is the problem to solve.

    Android, being linux, has many tools that will open all protected formats. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rarlab.rar https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sociosoft.unzip https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.zdevs.zarchive

    For ios the files tool will open zip files but it won't open rar files.
    But the documents tool many ios users already have does open rar files. https://apps.apple.com/app/documents-file-manager-app/id364901807

    For the iphone, other good third-party tools might be zip or izip. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/zip-rar-file-extractor/id769409043 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/izip-zip-unzip-unrar/id413971331

    Overall probably the best single free tool on all the platforms is winzip. https://www.winzip.com/en/all-products/
    Google must be driven off the digital stage, in order for the internet
    to survive. Google will scrape every bit of information in order to own
    you and every thing you think you are. Stop using Google, starve out the
    beast, and when the beast gets very hungry it will take risks.

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  • From Incubus@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Jul 6 07:03:08 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 2023-07-05, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    I like the Apple link.

    The promo material sez:

    Whether you receive a Zip, Zipx, 7z, RAR or LHA file as an email attachment,
    or want to extract download and view the contents of a
    Zip, Zipx, 7z, RAR or LHA file from the web, just "Open with WinZip".

    Then, one of the reviews sez:

    Even though it's 2023 and everyone uses zip now, someone gave me a .7z file,
    so I thought I'd try this to extract it. "Extract" immediately froze the app.
    "Extract to here" gave me a loading bar that was stuck at zero and the
    app still froze when I tried to cancel it several minutes later.

    It all sounds so normal.

    Yeah, you gotta take them with a grain of salt.

    Thanks for looking that one up as I didn't delve that deeply into it.

    Normally this group wouldn't deal with the iOS users (except when someone
    who doesn't know they're - well - they're just kind of different but they unknowingly put them on the newsgroup list and always - predictably - all
    hell breaks loose as the iOS users are different in that they can't stand
    when anything is said about Apple that Apple didn't tell them to say).

    It's like how this July 4th Gabriel Iglesias video clip posted two days ago
    at one minute explains a Pepsi commercial being well marketed but it
    doesn't deliver what it marketed. https://youtu.be/BZvHo2pE5t8?t=75

    Everything about the Apple product is like that Pepsi commercial.
    All promises. No delivery.

    They believe it. So when you tell them that they won't get the girl in the video even if they bought a hundred cases of Pepsi, they're all flustered.

    Back to what's the best password-protection unzipper for all the platforms,
    I'm gonna say it's probably WinZip but I don't really know (especially as
    you unearthed that it might not actually work on iOS).

    Problem is that half of those under 30 phone users will be on that platform
    so you can't just write them off if you're trying to send them a file link.

    If people know of a single password-enabled unzipper for all five
    platforms, that would be a useful bit of data for everyone to write down.

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  • From Xavier Aguirre@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Jul 6 00:13:10 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 16:25:00 -0400, Paul wrote:

    If the WeTransfer is free, how is the bandwidth paid for ?

    It's not only bandwidth that has to be paid for but the billboards erected
    all over Europe as WeTransfer seems to be the way to go in the EU domains.

    I don't know but I suspect it's paid for by either local ads on the web
    page, or they have a payfor service upgrade which adds download privileges.

    The site I use to post photos, their bandwidth bill per month, is $30,000 . That's why you ask the question, how some of these services are supported. Real, significant, sums of money are involved.

    I don't know how they make money either - but I'm assuming some people pay
    for the privileges that come with the membership - like at a drinking club.

    At one point, my photo site "lost" its domain. An American takedown
    at a guess. I would not make too many "proud declarations" if I were you.
    It could be, there is an unlocked door on the side of the WeTransfer
    site, and some unsavory individuals enter via that door. And I'm not
    talking about the cleaning staff either.

    Which is why encryption would seem to be the best bet for uploaders.

    But what encryption can everyone use that the TLAs don't already crack?

    I don't know of any. Do you?

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  • From Charles Jack Jones@21:1/5 to DanS on Thu Jul 6 08:39:26 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 18:15:00 +0000, DanS wrote:

    For how long are my files available on gofile?

    As long as your files are regularly downloaded by different
    users on a weekly basis, they will not be deleted. If a
    file is no longer downloaded, it becomes inactive and is
    subject to deletion after 10 days. If you wish to store
    your files permanently, you may upgrade your account from
    your profile page.

    I don't have a problem with expiration...but 10 days sounds a little short.

    I guess there are two answers to that, in that I would agree ten days is,
    well, it's only a week and a half - which is short but it's probably "long enough" if you are sending a link to someone in a web forum to get a file.

    Also, the way it's worded, I think it's not ten days but ten days after different IP addresses are downloading the file from your link.

    If you're clever about it, every nine days you can pop onto another VPN and download it yourself - but that seems kind of labor intensive to extend it.

    Luckily the other one that was suggested has a user-settable expiry date.

    How many were suggested so far anyway?
    About a half dozen to a dozen?

    Which is best?

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  • From Falafel Balls@21:1/5 to Nic on Thu Jul 6 09:46:52 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 6/7/2023, Nic wrote:

    Overall probably the best single free tool on all the platforms is winzip. >> https://www.winzip.com/en/all-products/

    Google must be driven off the digital stage, in order for the internet
    to survive. Google will scrape every bit of information in order to own
    you and every thing you think you are. Stop using Google, starve out the beast, and when the beast gets very hungry it will take risks.

    For people on this newsgroup, they're informed enough to know that using
    Google is not the most private way to do anything - whether that's email or
    an Internet drive or a mapping program or a search engine - or whatever.

    That's to say that nobody who is intelligent on this newsgroup uses it
    (at least not without knowing that they're trading their privacy away).

    However...

    There are plenty of mom and pop types of people who know nothing about computers who find these Google (and Apple & Microsoft) solutions fine.

    Those people who know nothing about anything are happy to use these three
    (we can probably add DropBox as a fourth in this file sharing regard).

    What the big three (or big four) do for the average clueless mom and pop
    user is they make it *easy* to share files without having to think of it.

    That not-wanting-to-think attitude of clueless people is what they do.

    So you do not need to preach here about the "evils" of the big three
    (Google, Apple & Microsoft). You need to preach to the avg mom & pop.

    But they're not on this newsgroup.

    Almost nobody on this newsgroup would use the big three for file sharing.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Xavier Aguirre on Thu Jul 6 04:50:02 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/6/2023 3:13 AM, Xavier Aguirre wrote:

    Which is why encryption would seem to be the best bet for uploaders.

    But what encryption can everyone use that the TLAs don't already crack?

    I don't know of any. Do you?

    If I knew the answer to that, I would be a very rich guy :-)

    This article shows they nibble around the edges, and
    all this means, is you have to pick a method which
    is bigger than the cracked ones.

    https://www.computerworld.com/article/2550008/the-clock-is-ticking-for-encryption.html

    Mar 21, 2011

    "But RSA messages with keys as long as 768 bits have been broken, says Paul Kocher,
    head of security firm Cryptography Research in San Francisco. "I would guess that
    in five years, even 1,024 bits will be broken," he says."

    That's why today, you'd use RSA4096. But you also have to remember,
    that progress on these is non-linear. One year there might be two papers,
    then you could have several years of radio silence.

    It's when something is severely broken (MD5 collision computation),
    that everyone knows it and they stop using it. It takes
    less than a minute on a Pentium 4, to modify a message in such a
    way, that it has the same MD5 hash as it had originally (before
    being modified).

    SHA1 is assumed to be "breakable, with enough effort", but
    nobody is really sure whether that's been done yet or not.
    If SHA256 is ever cracked, $70 billion worth of Bitcoins
    go down the toilet :-) The person who discovers that, is
    going to keep that quiet for a bit, while they make
    some retirement money.

    Try an article like this, to see how close they are getting. Not very close. Putting malware on your computer, is a much better method for
    decoding your stuff. A rubber hose is also a good method.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard

    "This is a very small gain, as a 126-bit key (instead of 128-bits) would
    still take billions of years to brute force on current and foreseeable hardware.
    Also, the authors calculate the best attack using their technique on AES with
    a 128-bit key requires storing 2^88 bits of data. That works out to about
    38 trillion terabytes of data, which is more than all the data stored on
    all the computers on the planet in 2016. As such, there are no practical
    implications on AES security. The space complexity has later been improved
    to 256 bits,[28] which is 9007 terabytes (while still keeping a time complexity
    of 2^126.2)."

    "At present, there is no known practical attack that would allow someone without knowledge
    of the key to read data encrypted by AES when correctly implemented."

    To meet the conditions of the last paragraph, that's why Igor
    had to correct his implementation (the key generation steps
    presumably).

    Paul

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Jul 6 13:23:26 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On 7/5/2023 11:24 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    [...]

    [About WeTransfer[.com]:]

    These transfer schemes can't last too long.

    WeTransfer exists since 2009, so quite a long time.

    <https://wetransfer.com/corporate/about> See the 'History' section.

    Mozilla had one, related to Firefox, and they had to
    shut that down.

    They're just too hard to police, and keep the authorities happy.

    We're Dutch, we can't be shut down! :-)

    FWIW: Yes, I use WeTransfer (once in a while). No, *I* am not 'Arlen'.


    If the WeTransfer is free, how is the bandwidth paid for ?

    WeTransfer has a Free service, but also other (Pro and Premium)
    services and they have other products. Just check the Pricing, Features
    and Company buttons on their main page (and other pages).

    The site I use to post photos, their bandwidth bill per month, is $30,000 . That's why you ask the question, how some of these services are supported. Real, significant, sums of money are involved.

    At one point, my photo site "lost" its domain. An American takedown
    at a guess. I would not make too many "proud declarations" if I were you.
    It could be, there is an unlocked door on the side of the WeTransfer
    site, and some unsavory individuals enter via that door. And I'm not
    talking about the cleaning staff either.

    Please no FUD, etc.. *Read* their 'About us' (Story, Key Stats,
    History and Products). *Then*, if you still have concerns, we'll see.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Jul 6 14:52:27 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    Paul wrote:

    If the WeTransfer is free, how is the bandwidth paid for ?

    Like many internet services, they use a "freemium" pricing model.

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to Lord Vader on Thu Jul 6 23:46:40 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    On 5/7/2023 4:56 am, Lord Vader wrote:
    I used a torrent to obtain a few hundred books on religion.
    I used calibre to convert all those books to PDFs and M$ Word.
    But I also have them converted to a host of other ebook formats.

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Cut the big file into a collection of small files using 7-zip!

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Mr. Man-wai Chang on Thu Jul 6 11:58:20 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware

    "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Cut the big file into a collection of small files using 7-zip!

    That will work for everyone except half the people in the USA with Apple.

    For the Apple users you have to keep it to a single click decrypt.

    Better to shrink the original file somehow to fit the size limitations.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Wally J on Thu Jul 6 17:36:08 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    [comp.text.pdf restored

    Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote

    The files are big.
    None are smaller than 1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size.

    Cut the big file into a collection of small files using 7-zip!

    That will work for everyone except half the people in the USA with Apple.

    For the Apple users you have to keep it to a single click decrypt.

    This article - see step 6, the last step - seems to imply that for
    'Apple' (iPhone/iPad, what about Mac?) it *is* a single 'click' to unzip
    a zip archive. (I assume that for a 'decrypt' it asks for the password.)

    'Downloading a .zip file on your iPhone or iPad browser' <https://help.wetransfer.com/hc/en-us/articles/210092373-Downloading-a-zip-file-on-your-iPhone-or-iPad-browser>

    Better to shrink the original file somehow to fit the size limitations.

    "1MB and many are in the 3MB, 4MB & 5MB size" is peanuts! A WeTransfer transfer can handle 2*GB*, i.e. at least *400* of these files in a
    single transfer.

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  • From DanS@21:1/5 to Charles Jack Jones on Thu Jul 6 23:11:17 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    Charles Jack Jones <charliejackjones@cjj.com> wrote in news:u85nhp$328m3$1@news.samoylyk.net:

    On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 18:15:00 +0000, DanS wrote:


    <SNIP>

    I don't have a problem with expiration...but 10 days
    sounds a little short.

    I guess there are two answers to that, in that I would
    agree ten days is, well, it's only a week and a half -
    which is short but it's probably "long enough" if you are
    sending a link to someone in a web forum to get a file.

    Also, the way it's worded, I think it's not ten days but
    ten days after different IP addresses are downloading the
    file from your link.

    That is exactly how it works. If no one d/l's it in x amount of time, it's gone. It 'resets' the
    timer with each d/l.

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  • From Nic@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri Jul 7 14:50:09 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/6/23 4:50 AM, Paul wrote:
    On 7/6/2023 3:13 AM, Xavier Aguirre wrote:

    Which is why encryption would seem to be the best bet for uploaders.

    But what encryption can everyone use that the TLAs don't already crack?

    I don't know of any. Do you?

    If I knew the answer to that, I would be a very rich guy :-)

    This article shows they nibble around the edges, and
    all this means, is you have to pick a method which
    is bigger than the cracked ones.

    https://www.computerworld.com/article/2550008/the-clock-is-ticking-for-encryption.html


        Mar 21, 2011

       "But RSA messages with keys as long as 768 bits have been broken,
    says Paul Kocher,
        head of security firm Cryptography Research in San Francisco. "I
    would guess that
        in five years, even 1,024 bits will be broken," he says."

    That's why today, you'd use RSA4096. But you also have to remember,
    that progress on these is non-linear. One year there might be two papers, then you could have several years of radio silence.

    It's when something is severely broken (MD5 collision computation),
    that everyone knows it and they stop using it. It takes
    less than a minute on a Pentium 4, to modify a message in such a
    way, that it has the same MD5 hash as it had originally (before
    being modified).

    SHA1 is assumed to be "breakable, with enough effort", but
    nobody is really sure whether that's been done yet or not.
    If SHA256 is ever cracked, $70 billion worth of Bitcoins
    go down the toilet :-) The person who discovers that, is
    going to keep that quiet for a bit, while they make
    some retirement money.

    Try an article like this, to see how close they are getting. Not very
    close.
    Putting malware on your computer, is a much better method for
    decoding your stuff. A rubber hose is also a good method.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard

       "This is a very small gain, as a 126-bit key (instead of 128-bits)
    would
        still take billions of years to brute force on current and
    foreseeable hardware.
        Also, the authors calculate the best attack using their technique
    on AES with
        a 128-bit key requires storing 2^88 bits of data. That works out
    to about
        38 trillion terabytes of data, which is more than all the data
    stored on
        all the computers on the planet in 2016. As such, there are no practical
        implications on AES security. The space complexity has later been improved
        to 256 bits,[28] which is 9007 terabytes (while still keeping a
    time complexity
        of 2^126.2)."

       "At present, there is no known practical attack that would allow
    someone without knowledge
        of the key to read data encrypted by AES when correctly implemented."

    To meet the conditions of the last paragraph, that's why Igor
    had to correct his implementation (the key generation steps
    presumably).

       Paul
    Would a binary news group work with good encryption?

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Nic on Fri Jul 7 16:40:48 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On 7/7/2023 2:50 PM, Nic wrote:

    Would a binary news group work with good encryption?

    If you're talking about transmissions between a USENET server
    and your computer, Port 119 is unencrypted. Any "observer"
    along the path, can see your user:pass, as well as the (text)
    messages that you are reassembling to make some binary thing.

    When you use port 563, that's encrypted. First, an SSL/TLS
    session is lashed up between you and the server, then, if
    the server needs user:pass , that is exchanged as usual.

    You are relying in that case, on SSL/TLS. Only the latest
    TLS is secure, and it depends on using one of the good
    crypto standards.

    If the server lifts the standard too high, then no clients
    would be able to connect on port 563.

    You see this very occasionally, on some web servers, where
    the web server is set to TLS 1.3 and only a couple crypto
    methods are accepted. And then, almost no browser in your
    "fleet" will work with it.

    I don't know any more details about it, than that. Like,
    right now, what standard is my USENET client using ? I don't
    know. It is probably TLS, but I don't know which one.

    Paul

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  • From Char Jackson@21:1/5 to Nic on Fri Jul 7 22:16:10 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.freeware, comp.text.pdf

    On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 14:50:09 -0400, Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:

    Would a binary news group work with good encryption?

    When it comes to binary files, Usenet is a one-to-many type of service,
    as you probably know. Upload once, download any number of times by any
    number of clients, anywhere in the world where there is Usenet access.

    What would make me uncomfortable is the fact that Usenet binary file
    uploads never expire. Some of the mid-level NSPs might expire files *on
    their server*, but the bigger players stopped expiring binary uploads in
    the early 2000s, give or take a few years. Files that were uploaded
    15-20 years ago are typically still available today.

    It used to be that some groups, such as alt.binaries.test and a few
    others like it, would have an intentionally short retention time, but
    that doesn't appear to be the case anymore. (My NSP currently has files
    in a.b.test dating back to 14.8 years, and going forward nothing is
    being deleted.)

    Encryption of the file itself, as well as encryption of the connection
    needed to upload/download the file, have been addressed by others.

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