Is there a contacts program dedicated to offline contact management?Do you use Thunderbird? It's contacts book, as poor as it is with a very lack luster field list, is stored locally.
I don't like keeping my contacts on a mail server somewhere instead of in a simple file on my computer (which can be copied to the phone).
I suppose the main formats for contacts are vcard & csv so I'd go with csv for simplicity.
With that, I can probably manage contacts using Excel on a contacts.csv
file - but is there a better way?
For example, you can manage passwords in Excel too, but they make a
specific program for managing passwords on Windows (for example KeepassXC).
Is there a dedicated contacts program specialized for managing contacts on
a PC where you can then periodically copy that file over to your phone too?
On 7/3/23 13:47, this is what mike wrote:I finally found the one I used a long time ago.
Is there a contacts program dedicated to offline contact management?Do you use Thunderbird? It's contacts book, as poor as it is with a very lack luster field list, is stored locally.
I don't like keeping my contacts on a mail server somewhere instead of in a >> simple file on my computer (which can be copied to the phone).
I suppose the main formats for contacts are vcard & csv so I'd go with csv >> for simplicity.
With that, I can probably manage contacts using Excel on a contacts.csv
file - but is there a better way?
For example, you can manage passwords in Excel too, but they make a
specific program for managing passwords on Windows (for example KeepassXC). >>
Is there a dedicated contacts program specialized for managing contacts on >> a PC where you can then periodically copy that file over to your phone too?
And 'thunderbird -addressbook' can be put in a shortcut file to open it from the desktop directly.
But yes, there are better ones if you don't get any better feedback.
With that, I can probably manage contacts using Excel on a contacts.csv
file - but is there a better way?
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 19:47:53 +0200, mike wrote:
With that, I can probably manage contacts using Excel on a contacts.csv
file - but is there a better way?
Why don't you want to keep your contacts list on your phone? And to
do things with your contacts list on the computer:
If it's an Android phone, you can then do various things with them at https://contacts.google.com/ -- I assume Apple has something similar
for the iOS world.
On 04-07-2023 05:07 Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 19:47:53 +0200, mike wrote:
With that, I can probably manage contacts using Excel on a contacts.csv
file - but is there a better way?
Why don't you want to keep your contacts list on your phone? And to do
things with your contacts list on the computer:
The problem with contacts on an Android phone is that the entire system is designed by Google to suck up your contacts for them to exploit & not you.
You'd have to be a genius to keep your contacts OUT of Google's hands.
Plus, and I'm going to say something inflammatory to 999 out of 1000 of the people reading this - but people who upload contacts are disgusting people.
Yes. They're disgusting.
People who upload YOUR contact information WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION are all disgustingly horrible inconsiderate mean spiteful uneducated idiots.
Whew! I said it. Now, I fully well know that MOST PEOPLE ARE DISGUSTING.
Of course I know that. Most people are incredibly rude to everyone else.
Apologies to anyone who is offended - but I'm trying to make the point.
On 04-07-2023 05:07 Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:I believe there is a setting in an android phone that controls what is uploaded. I don't know how effective it is
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 19:47:53 +0200, mike wrote:
With that, I can probably manage contacts using Excel on a contacts.csv
file - but is there a better way?
Why don't you want to keep your contacts list on your phone? And to do
things with your contacts list on the computer:
The problem with contacts on an Android phone is that the entire system is designed by Google to suck up your contacts for them to exploit & not you.
You'd have to be a genius to keep your contacts OUT of Google's hands.
Plus, and I'm going to say something inflammatory to 999 out of 1000 of the people reading this - but people who upload contacts are disgusting people.
Yes. They're disgusting.
People who upload YOUR contact information WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION are all disgustingly horrible inconsiderate mean spiteful uneducated idiots.
Whew! I said it. Now, I fully well know that MOST PEOPLE ARE DISGUSTING.
Of course I know that. Most people are incredibly rude to everyone else.
I suspect most people who upload MY CONTACT INFORMATION are the same people who poison candy at Halloween to hand to the kids who come to their door.
I hope I'm making my point.
It's incredibly rude for people to upload MY CONTACT INFORMATION go Google.
What does Google do with MY CONTACT INFORMATION? I don't know - but I
know Google tries VERY HARD to get MY CONTACT DATA.
An example is they get sucked into Google Maps. What the hell for?
I don't know but you have to learn how to NOT suck them into Maps.
But wait. They get sucked into your GMail account also (although I don't
have an account on my Android phone so I don't use the GMail app).
Oh, did I miss Google Voice? They get sucked into that too. And outside of Google they get sucked into WhatsApp and Talkatone and whatever else.
Everyone wants your contacts - and that's the problem because NOBODY needs them. I can have a private set of contacts that I can use with a dialer
that reads in teh contacts.
I can have a private set of contacts (maybe even a DIFFERENT set!) that I
can use for my messenger application on the phone.
Even if 999 out of 1,000 people are heartless disgustingly uncaring people,
I don't want to be one of them.
I want to PROTECT the privacy of the people I know.
Why don't you?
If it's an Android phone, you can then do various things with them at
https://contacts.google.com/ -- I assume Apple has something similar
for the iOS world.
The problem with Android contacts is they're stored in an sqlite database that very many programs have access to - so many I can't know them all.
Neither can you.
Which is the point.
I should only have contacts used in only those programs I want to use them. Pretty much that's only my dialer and my messenger app.
Nothing else on Android.
On Windows, what I would do is MANAGE the contacts.
That's because Windows has Excel and a great keyboard and a great copy & paste with the mouse and control keys - so the main contacts db would be maintained on Windows in a format that can be used on the phone.
Microsoft doesn't require me to upload the contact, for example.
This is all about being 1 out of 1,000 people who isn't disgustingly rude
to everyone around him - and yes - I know these are inflammatory words.
My point is to underscore how disgusting most people are by not caring
about the privacy of every man woman and child who interacts with them.
Apologies to anyone who is offended - but I'm trying to make the point.
Is there a contacts program dedicated to offline contact management?
I don't like keeping my contacts on a mail server somewhere instead of in a simple file on my computer (which can be copied to the phone).
I suppose the main formats for contacts are vcard & csv so I'd go with csv for simplicity.
With that, I can probably manage contacts using Excel on a contacts.csv
file - but is there a better way?
For example, you can manage passwords in Excel too, but they make a
specific program for managing passwords on Windows (for example KeepassXC).
Is there a dedicated contacts program specialized for managing contacts on
a PC where you can then periodically copy that file over to your phone too?
Is there a contacts program dedicated to offline contact management?
I don't like keeping my contacts on a mail server somewhere instead of in a >> simple file on my computer (which can be copied to the phone).
I suppose the main formats for contacts are vcard & csv so I'd go with csv >> for simplicity.
With that, I can probably manage contacts using Excel on a contacts.csv
file - but is there a better way?
For example, you can manage passwords in Excel too, but they make a
specific program for managing passwords on Windows (for example KeepassXC). >>
Is there a dedicated contacts program specialized for managing contacts on >> a PC where you can then periodically copy that file over to your phone too?
Apologies to anyone who is offended - but I'm trying to make the point.
Not offended, just amazed that you use ANY device connected to the
Internet. Or ever communicate with anyone else.
Despite your efforts you are out there if someone cares to look hard enough.
Apologies to anyone who is offended - but I'm trying to make the point.I believe there is a setting in an android phone that controls what is uploaded. I don't know how effective it is
More to my real point, they're incredibly stupid people.
All they'd have to do is "think" for once - and they would stop that.
If someone is not informed than explain it to them. With it they can than make their own choice. Just don't presume you have any right to make their choice for, and/or force your POV onto them.
I'm also no fan of sharing my personal data with companies (of any kind) either, and will deny them that if, and when asked. But sometimes you
can't legally evade it (passport, drivers licence, bank account to name a few) and trying to fight that is a battle you can't win. And than there are the ones you can't evade for practically reasons (again bank account, the rent of your home, gas-ligth-and-water payments to name a few). IOW, pick your battles well.
And I hope you do realize that just being on the internet gives a lot of people a lot of information about who you are, starting with your ISP and likely also your bank - information you sound like you would not hand over volontarily. You had the choice *not* to go online, and keep that information from them. Yet, here you are. You have weighed the pros and cons of it, and made your own choice. Allow others to do the same.
On 04-07-2023 12:01 MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote:
Apologies to anyone who is offended - but I'm trying to make the point.
Not offended, just amazed that you use ANY device connected to the
Internet. Or ever communicate with anyone else.
It's good you're not offended because my main point is people are
heartlessly disgusting in that they willingly share you with Google.
More to my real point, they're incredibly stupid people.
Keeping it local solves that privacy problem.
But it takes brains.
Is there a contacts program dedicated to offline contact management?
I don't like keeping my contacts on a mail server somewhere instead of in a simple file on my computer (which can be copied to the phone).
I suppose the main formats for contacts are vcard & csv so I'd go with csv for simplicity.
With that, I can probably manage contacts using Excel on a contacts.csv
file - but is there a better way?
For example, you can manage passwords in Excel too, but they make a
specific program for managing passwords on Windows (for example KeepassXC).
Is there a dedicated contacts program specialized for managing contacts on
a PC where you can then periodically copy that file over to your phone too?
I had completely forgotten about it, but there is a Contacts folder as
part of Windows 10.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Contacts
The options for New Contact, Import, Export, etc. are at the top of that folder.
Only 1 out of 1000 people understand a word I have said in this thread.
I was going to respond that "you still don't get it", but since you asked
me to "be nice" I'm going to point out the obvious to you.
It's not MY privacy I'm trying to protect.
It's YOURs.
Until you get that concept, you can't possibly understand the question.
It has NOTHING to do with ME being on the Internet.
It's all about YOU being in my contacts.
Keeping it local solves that privacy problem.
But it takes brains.
An area where you appear to be sadly deficient.
Only 1 out of 1000 people understand a word I have said in this thread.
Thats quite possible when you rant about /everyone/ *willingly* sharing your^Wother peoples data with any-and-all other. You're not even /trying/ to make a distinction there. Which is what I don't understand coming from an intelligent person. You /are/ intelligent, aren't you ?
Its not about other people, its about *you*. You want something, and this is the way you think you can manipulate (force) other people into giving it to you..
Until you get that concept, you can't possibly understand the question.
Translation : Until you support my ideas you do not need to be listened to.
Wielding that kind of rethoric makes you a would-be dictator. Or just a troll ofcourse.
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