• Getting Windows ready

    From pinnerite@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 26 17:30:02 2023
    I get this every time I try to close down.
    It seems on go on forever.
    What on earth is it doing?
    Can I stop whatever it is?

    TIA

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Mon Jun 26 14:12:55 2023
    On 6/26/2023 12:30 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I get this every time I try to close down.
    It seems on go on forever.
    What on earth is it doing?
    Can I stop whatever it is?

    TIA


    In Updates and Security, check your Update History table.

    An update is trying to install, and is failing.

    It is trying to reinstall during shutdown.

    *******

    Another thing. Run "winver" and report your version.

    You can "lock" the version using InControl. Your "winver"
    info, tells you where you are currently. My guess is, you're
    at 21H2 and the machine is trying and trying, to do 22H2.

    https://www.grc.com/incontrol.htm

    In the example in the picture on the GRC page, it's set to
    Windows 10 21H2. Whereas the very latest is 22H2.

    The mapping from the "winver" number to the Release, is here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history

    1909 November 2019 Update 18363

    2004 May 2020 Update 19041
    20H2 October 2020 Update 19042
    21H1 May 2021 Update 19043
    21H2 November 2021 Update 19044
    22H2 2022 Update 19045 <=== it could be trying to do this one!

    *******

    In Power Shell, as administrator

    get-windowsupdatelog

    I figured out the name, by using tab-completion, which sorta works
    in Powershell. When it runs, it will dump a text file on your desktop.

    While your Update History gives some info, you can also poke around
    the newly-generated "WindowsUpdate.log" on the desktop.

    *******

    There is no reason to assume, based on evidence, that something is
    actually broken. It could be, that the VM environment is minus some
    needed thing, and that's blowing up the version attempt. While you
    can find articles exhorting you to run DISM and SFC, I don't immediately
    leap for those.

    *******

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/windows-update-logs

    Windows Setup log files analysis using SetupDiag tool

    SetupDiag is a diagnostic tool that can be used for analysis of logs related
    to installation of Windows Updates. For detailed information, see SetupDiag.

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/upgrade/setupdiag

    Power likely to drop soon. That is all.

    Paul

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Mon Jun 26 13:12:09 2023
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    I get this every time I try to close down. It seems on go on forever.
    What on earth is it doing? Can I stop whatever it is?

    System settings -> Notifications and Actions

    - Show me the Windows welcome experience after updates and occasionally
    when I sign in to highlight what's new and suggested

    - Suggest ways I can finish settup up my devices to get the most out of
    Windows.

    Did you leave those enabled? I disabled those immediately after a fresh install of Windows to get rid of some noise and prying by Microsoft.

    Did you leave enabled that Windows can auto-update the drivers, too?
    While I could dig around the settings to find where to disable it since
    it would commit brain surgery on the OS without my consent, I use
    WinAero Tweaker for that along with making other setting changes. In
    WinAero Tweaker, search on driver, and select "Behavior\Disable Driver Updates". Almost all tweaks in WinAero Tweaker have links to
    corresponding web pages describing the tweak. For this one, see https://winaero.com/how-to-turn-off-driver-updates-in-windows-update-in-windows-10/.
    No, this is probably not what causes the message you see, but if you
    didn't disable that crap then likely you also did not disable automatic
    driver updates, too.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Mon Jun 26 11:33:30 2023
    On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 13:12:09 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
    Did you leave enabled that Windows can auto-update the drivers, too?
    While I could dig around the settings to find where to disable it since
    it would commit brain surgery on the OS without my consent, I use
    WinAero Tweaker for that along with making other setting changes.

    <https://www.minitool.com/news/disable-automatic-driver-updates-win- 10-009.html>

    1. Open Settings, select System » About.
    2. In right-hand panel, Advanced System Settings.
    3. On Hardware tab, Device Installation Settings and select No.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Mon Jun 26 14:37:53 2023
    Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    Did you leave enabled that Windows can auto-update the drivers, too?
    While I could dig around the settings to find where to disable it since
    it would commit brain surgery on the OS without my consent, I use
    WinAero Tweaker for that along with making other setting changes.

    <https://www.minitool.com/news/disable-automatic-driver-updates-win-10-009.html>

    1. Open Settings, select System » About.
    2. In right-hand panel, Advanced System Settings.
    3. On Hardware tab, Device Installation Settings and select No.

    Shortcut to get to the same config dialog is to run:

    sysdm.cpl (tap on Hardware tab)

    However, I've tried that before. Didn't stop hardware updates. Used
    to, but Microsoft changed their collective mind. That was the old way
    to disable hardware updates. I'd still sometimes come back to my
    computer to find a prompt to reboot the computer to apply the driver
    update which I didn't want.

    Now you need to use a policy, and Home users don't have the policy
    editor (gpedit.msc). All policies are registry entries, but directly
    editing the registry is a pain, there is no undo (in regedit.exe), and
    you have to know where is the registry entry to edit. The WinAero
    Tweaker article mentions where is the policy entry in the registry, and
    how to edit it yourself, or just use the tool to edit the policy.

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  • From AllanH@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Mon Jun 26 15:29:23 2023
    On 6/26/2023 2:37 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    Did you leave enabled that Windows can auto-update the drivers, too?
    While I could dig around the settings to find where to disable it since
    it would commit brain surgery on the OS without my consent, I use
    WinAero Tweaker for that along with making other setting changes.

    <https://www.minitool.com/news/disable-automatic-driver-updates-win-10-009.html>

    1. Open Settings, select System » About.
    2. In right-hand panel, Advanced System Settings.
    3. On Hardware tab, Device Installation Settings and select No.

    Shortcut to get to the same config dialog is to run:

    sysdm.cpl (tap on Hardware tab)

    However, I've tried that before. Didn't stop hardware updates. Used
    to, but Microsoft changed their collective mind. That was the old way
    to disable hardware updates. I'd still sometimes come back to my
    computer to find a prompt to reboot the computer to apply the driver
    update which I didn't want.

    Now you need to use a policy, and Home users don't have the policy
    editor (gpedit.msc). All policies are registry entries, but directly
    editing the registry is a pain, there is no undo (in regedit.exe), and
    you have to know where is the registry entry to edit. The WinAero
    Tweaker article mentions where is the policy entry in the registry, and
    how to edit it yourself, or just use the tool to edit the policy.

    When I tried the Freeware program, WAU Manager, last year, it actually installed the Group Policy Editor if it was missing.

    https://www.carifred.com/wau_manager/

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