You will never run out of excuses for why iOS can't do what the others do.
you will never stop lying. there are no excuses.
You're the one who told Carlos that yt-dlp was ported to iOS when it's not.
As always, nospam is correct and you whining kiddie trolls are, well,
whining kiddie trolls. AGAIN.
<https://github.com/tucomel/yt-dlp-ios#readme>
I have no desire to try this, but yt-dlp clearly works on iOS. If any of you kiddies would bother to search for it, this thread could have ended centuries ago.
But no, itąs always just WALLED GARDEN WALLED GARDEN WALLED GARDEN WALLED GARDEN.
Donąt you children ever get tired of always being wrong?
In article <r4acnVnN4p5NqAv5nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
As always, nospam is correct and you whining kiddie trolls are, well,You will never run out of excuses for why iOS can't do what the others do.
you will never stop lying. there are no excuses.
You're the one who told Carlos that yt-dlp was ported to iOS when it's not. >>
whining kiddie trolls. AGAIN.
<https://github.com/tucomel/yt-dlp-ios#readme>
someone knows how to use a search engine!
I have no desire to try this, but yt-dlp clearly works on iOS. If any of >> you kiddies would bother to search for it, this thread could have ended
centuries ago.
like i said, they aren't interested in answers.
But no, itÂąs always just WALLED GARDEN WALLED GARDEN WALLED GARDEN WALLED >> GARDEN.
the only walls are the ones they build themselves.
anything they can't figure out how to do (which is a lot) is blamed on
apple, not their own incompetence or ignorance.
DonÂąt you children ever get tired of always being wrong?
they clearly don't.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
You will never run out of excuses for why iOS can't do what the others do. >>you will never stop lying. there are no excuses.
You're the one who told Carlos that yt-dlp was ported to iOS when it's not.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <r4acnVnN4p5NqAv5nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
You will never run out of excuses for why iOS can't do what the
others do.
you will never stop lying. there are no excuses.
You're the one who told Carlos that yt-dlp was ported to iOS when
it's not.
As always, nospam is correct and you whining kiddie trolls are,
well, whining kiddie trolls. AGAIN.
<https://github.com/tucomel/yt-dlp-ios#readme>
someone knows how to use a search engine!
And you know what? It was extremely easy. I bet even the troll
kiddies could do it, with help from their parents.
On 2023-06-24, Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <r4acnVnN4p5NqAv5nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
You will never run out of excuses for why iOS can't do what the
others do.
you will never stop lying. there are no excuses.
You're the one who told Carlos that yt-dlp was ported to iOS when
it's not.
As always, nospam is correct and you whining kiddie trolls are,
well, whining kiddie trolls. AGAIN.
<https://github.com/tucomel/yt-dlp-ios#readme>
someone knows how to use a search engine!
And you know what? It was extremely easy. I bet even the troll
kiddies could do it, with help from their parents.
I just installed a-shell and yt-dlp and downloaded a Youtube video on my iPhone 13 Pro:
<https://share.vidyard.com/watch/PkEXT3ij2bc6VJTh6utPk9>
What the lame Apple-hating trolls claim is supposedly "impossible" is actually brain-dead easy, as usual. 🤣
But we all know the "iOS can't do what the others do", "WaLlEd GaRdEn", "ApPlE sUcKs" kiddie trolls won't change their tune, because it's the
only game they know.
Don't you children ever get tired of always being wrong?
they clearly don't.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Don't you children ever get tired of always being wrong?
they clearly don't.
If we assume you're technically competent, you'll upload a screenshot,
within the next half hour or so, of the clusterfuck working on your device.
Game over troll kiddies.
Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
Game over troll kiddies.
There are thousands upon thousands of useful applications which run on all the other operating systems except for iOS (because of the walled garden).
On 2023-06-24 13:48, Peter wrote:
Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:Wake up. You've been old repeatedly that THERE IS NO WALLED GARDEN.
Game over troll kiddies.
There are thousands upon thousands of useful applications which run on
all
the other operating systems except for iOS (because of the walled
garden).
It's a sandbox.
Wake up. You've been old repeatedly that THERE IS NO WALLED GARDEN.
The sole thing remotely close to a walled garden in the iOS realm is the
App Store. That of course provides heightened security against malware
and thus is perfect for devices that people use day to day for their
personal and work needs.
(Of course the EU wants to F this up).
Aside that it is of course not a walled garden.
Apps I use there have
nothing to do with Apple, don't go through Apple's servers and for that matter are commercial competitors to Apple. I don't have to be logged
into Apple to use the device at all.
So the whole notion of iOS as a walled garden is dead.
OTOH, Apple generously provide integration between various apps
(including API's for 3rd parties) that make Apple products seamless to
use together for the user and in some cases groups of people. There is absolutely nothing close to this eco-system in the Android realm.
And it requires no special maintenance, updates or contortions to get
things to work together. They just "do".
It's a sandbox.
Yes indeed.
Hmm - attacking a security feature such as sandboxing isn't exactly
showing much savvy, is it?
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Wake up. You've been old repeatedly that THERE IS NO WALLED GARDEN.
The sole thing remotely close to a walled garden in the iOS realm is the
App Store. That of course provides heightened security against malware
and thus is perfect for devices that people use day to day for their
personal and work needs.
(Of course the EU wants to F this up).
For each of the thousands of apps which run on all the other systems except for iOS, you have to make up a different excuse for why they're not on iOS.
Like the Tor Browser. WebKit can't give the privacy of the Tor Browser.
But the Apple walled garden requires all browsers be built using WebKit.
The one answer to all of these thousands of missing apps is Walled Garden.
Aside that it is of course not a walled garden.
You are correct that the requirement for one App Store is a walled garden. None of the other operating systems require you all apps from one place.
Well, except the Chrome operating system - which is just a copy of iOS.
Apps I use there have
nothing to do with Apple, don't go through Apple's servers and for that
matter are commercial competitors to Apple. I don't have to be logged
into Apple to use the device at all.
Almost nothing on iOS works outside the walled garden. For example, you
can't even send/receive a normal SMS/MMS text message from/to others who
are not on iOS without you being logged into the walled garden.
Tellingly, _they_ can send/receive SMS/MMS without logging into anything. Only you iOS users must log into the Apple servers just to handle text.
So the whole notion of iOS as a walled garden is dead.
An iOS device basically won't work if you don't log into their walled
garden. But it's much worse than that since even the hardware is limited.
Part of the walled garden are those crazy Apple-only cords and idiotic Apple-only limitations that no iPhone can ever have a portable sd slot.
The Apple weirdos will claim that a minority of Android devices and a minority of Windows laptops don't have sd slots but that is just their
excuse because the choice of a laptop or Android with sdcards exists.
Because of the walled garden, that choice has been eliminated in iOS.
OTOH, Apple generously provide integration between various apps
(including API's for 3rd parties) that make Apple products seamless to
use together for the user and in some cases groups of people. There is
absolutely nothing close to this eco-system in the Android realm.
Plug a brand new Android phone into a brand new Windows PC.
Plug a brand new iPhone into a brand new Windows PC.
Tell us that the result of what happens isn't the walled garden in action.
And it requires no special maintenance, updates or contortions to get
things to work together. They just "do".
To those who have never plugged a brand new Android or iOS device into a brand new Windows PC, the Android device works just like you want it to.
You can copy anything you want from Windows to that Android file system.
And you can copy anything you can find on the Android over to Windows.
For iOS, all you can do is copy one way.
And even that is only DCIM (photos).
No video.
No nothing else.
Just pictures. Just one way.
And they'll all be in folders stupidly named Apple101, Apple101, etc.
And the images will all be stupidly named IMG1001, IMG1002, etc.
That's the walled garden in action for you.
It's a sandbox.
Yes indeed.
Why can't iOS have any privacy in that you MUST log into Apple servers.
Also EVERY app you installed is marked with your own unique ID.
Hmm - attacking a security feature such as sandboxing isn't exactly
showing much savvy, is it?
Where's the privacy in the fact iOS can't run the Tor Project Browser?
Or that you can't do anything on the iPhone without logging into servers?
All these functionality and privacy flaws are due to the walled garden.
Just pictures. Just one way.
And they'll all be in folders stupidly named Apple101, Apple101, etc.
And the images will all be stupidly named IMG1001, IMG1002, etc.
That's the walled garden in action for you.
Well, I'm not in a position to test that, but given your lack of understanding I'd bet you're off the wall wrong.
Like the Tor Browser. WebKit can't give the privacy of the Tor Browser.
Absolute malarky.
But - to enjoy the fantastic eco-system of Apple one tends to stay
logged in for those all-day-long conveniences.
OTOH, when I receive SMS/MMS on the iPhone, it handily uses the
eco-system to allow that same message to appear on my Macs and Watch.
False. Only a subset of the Apple eco-system requires one be logged in.
Part of the walled garden are those crazy Apple-only cords and idiotic
Apple-only limitations that no iPhone can ever have a portable sd slot.
If one wants to connect an SD to an iPhone one can.
Few want to. And of course features like Air Drop make such an
antiquated thing.
Few do. SD cards are finding an ever narrower realm of use.
Because of the walled garden, that choice has been eliminated in iOS.
No. But for the small number of people who need to connect to an SD
card there are adapters for iPhones/iPad.
Plug a brand new Android phone into a brand new Windows PC.
Plug a brand new iPhone into a brand new Windows PC.
Tell us that the result of what happens isn't the walled garden in action.
Different approach. Different OS'. Shocker! But many Windows users
do it daily.
To those who have never plugged a brand new Android or iOS device into a
brand new Windows PC, the Android device works just like you want it to.
Do keep up. I was talking about eco-system issues with about a dozen
apps on iPhones (more with 3rd party API's) so that ones collection of devices (eg: computer, phone, tablet, watch) are all in sync, all of the time.
All these functionality and privacy flaws are due to the walled garden.
Apple privacy goes beyond anything from Google. And you know it.
No walled garden here in iOS land - but one hell of an eco-system that Android/Linux/Windows cannot come close to - by design.
What's telling about these iOS weirdos is that they're actually not lying. They really do not know that WebKit exists. They have no clue.
They see a browser and they "think" it's Chrome or Firefox or whatever.
And yet, none of them have any idea that all the browsers are using WebKit.
They never even heard of WebKit.
So they're not lying when they say what they say.
They don't know anything about Apple products (that everyone else knows).
<https://support.torproject.org/tormobile/tormobile-3/>
"Can I run Tor Browser on an iOS device? Apple requires browsers on iOS
to use something called Webkit, which prevents [any web browser!]
from having the same privacy protections as Tor Browser."
What's telling about these iOS weirdos is that they're actually not lying. >> They really do not know that WebKit exists. They have no clue.
They see a browser and they "think" it's Chrome or Firefox or whatever.
And yet, none of them have any idea that all the browsers are using WebKit. >>
They never even heard of WebKit.
So they're not lying when they say what they say.
They don't know anything about Apple products (that everyone else knows).
<https://support.torproject.org/tormobile/tormobile-3/>
"Can I run Tor Browser on an iOS device? Apple requires browsers on iOS
to use something called Webkit, which prevents [any web browser!]
from having the same privacy protections as Tor Browser."
To be fair, if you asked nearly any iPhone user about Tor browser they'd
give you a blank stare since it's highly likely that they have never
heard of it. Nor have they ever heard of WebKit. These are consumer
devices and users are not expected to be technical experts. They are
happy within the walled garden (or whatever you want to call it) and
privacy and security while browsing is not a big concern.
Occasionally, a user that has switched from Android to iOS will realize
that they can no longer do certain things, or run certain apps, on iOS,
but someone that has never used Android will not be aware of the
limitations of iOS.
There are also occasionally things that you can do on an iPhone that
aren't possible on Android; one place where I have run into this is when doing screenshots. Sometimes I want an image of a membership card to
store in Apple Wallet or Google wallet but the store or other
organization doesn't want you to do this so on Android the ability to do
a screenshot is turned off by the app developer but iOS doesn't give app developers that capability.
I also recently ran into a set of devices for which there is an iOS App
but no Android app <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/silvair/id1281447717>.
Contacting the company they told me that if I signed an NDA they would
send me the APK for the beta version of the Android app.
This was covered in gory detail in the Android newsgroup where it's
actually possible to screenshot over the protection of Android.
You just have to use a mirroring program (for example, on Windows) which doesn't respect the permission lock that Android apps will respect.
if you asked nearly any iPhone user about Tor browser they'd
give you a blank stare since it's highly likely that they have never
heard of it.
Occasionally, a user that has switched from Android to iOS will realize
that they can no longer do certain things, or run certain apps, on iOS,
but someone that has never used Android will not be aware of the
limitations of iOS.
There are also occasionally things that you can do on an iPhone that
aren't possible on Android;
one place where I have run into this is when
doing screenshots. Sometimes I want an image of a membership card to
store in Apple Wallet or Google wallet but the store or other
organization doesn't want you to do this so on Android the ability to do
a screenshot is turned off by the app developer but iOS doesn't give app developers that capability.
it helps to actually know what can and can't be done before claiming something.
To be fair, if you asked nearly any iPhone user about Tor browser they'd
give you a blank stare since it's highly likely that they have never
heard of it.
To be fair, if you asked nearly any iPhone user about Tor browser they'd
give you a blank stare since it's highly likely that they have never
heard of it.
Likewise for the vast majority of Android users.
Amusingly, iOS does apparently allow the app developer to display a
message when they don't want you to do a screen shot. If you take a screenshot of your digital Costco membership card, a message pops up "Screenshot Not Valid A screenshot of your membership card will not
work." But of course it does work. On Android the app prohibits screen
shots of your membership card, but if they don't work why would they
prohibit them?!
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
To be fair, if you asked nearly any iPhone user about Tor browser they'd >>> give you a blank stare since it's highly likely that they have never
heard of it.
Likewise for the vast majority of Android users.
You dumb Apple nutjobs had no idea that all iOS browsers must use WebKit.
And you dumb Apple nutjobs have no idea WebKit is in the walled garden.
Nor do you have any idea that WebKit is the reason iOS has no privacy.
Nor security (almost all zero-day iOS bugs are in Apple's sordid WebKit).
There was a long thread on the topic, with many tests, on the Android newsgroup and the workaround is to run your screenshots in a program that doesn't respect the security that Google implemented to prevent snapshots.
It's surprising that iOS doesn't give the app developer the option of preventing screen shots.
There are legitimate reasons to implement this
feature.
But I'm not complaining! I often take screenshots of cards so I
can store them in the Apple Wallet or create a one-click shortcut to
bring up an image of the card on the phone rather than opening an app
and authenticating and then bringing up an image of the card.
Now,
when you approach self-checkout an employee stops you and requires that
you present your membership card and they match your picture to your
face.
On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 17:41:27 -0700, sms wrote:
Now,
when you approach self-checkout an employee stops you and requires that
you present your membership card and they match your picture to your
face.
I never use the self checkout but my Costco card is a credit card (as yours most likely also is as you also seem to love to get money back on CCards).
That VISA Ccard has only my first initial & last name (I did that so that anyone in my family can easily use it - but they never checked me or them).
Also, there is no picture and there never has been a picture on that card.
And even when someone PROVES that "the impossible" CAN be easily done on
iOS, the kiddie trolls reject the evidence and have a public breakdown.
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