I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be inappropriate for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other) videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be inappropriate for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other) videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be inappropriate for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other) videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to
confirm my age
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can
easily track.
switch to incognito/private tab
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a
throwaway email account)
watch video
delete account
On 17/06/23 07:54, Andy Burns wrote:
Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my
age
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
switch to incognito/private tab
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ...
I tried temporary numbers, and they don't work.
The telephone number scam is also hidden in some promotional offerings.
An example : i have some non verified emails, and when trying to
activate a couple of cloud extentions (the popular clones of google
drive), entering a couple of emails not associated to numbers, the host required to use not better precised SAFER EMAILs :D :D :D
They want to link every info, avery activity with a physical person.
watch video
delete account
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my
age https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily
track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
inappropriate for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and
many other) videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On 6/17/2023 6:14 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my
age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track. >>>
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
inappropriate
for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other)
videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On a Linux terminal:
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
Yeah, I thought that would be an interesting experiment.
Via Windows Bash shell and Ubuntu installation, this is my result.
It's not even getting to parse anything.
$ yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading webpage
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading android player API JSON
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web agegate player API JSON
ERROR: [youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Sign in to confirm your age. This video
may be inappropriate for some users.
$
I didn't really expect a different result than that, but
certainly the experiment was worth trying.
If the returned web page simply does not have a URI the tool can harvest, then that is about all they can do.
Only if there is a way to make a cookie, or one of those state schemes
to generate a "maturity token", could you break in without naming yourself. And then the maturity token server has all your details (the token scheme
is an attempt to anonymize the user). This might have been described in
a recent Pornhub-related article.
Would a VPN work ?
Dunno. Would depend on whether policies displayed are "global" or not.
Even my attempt to search this topic on Bing, was truncated by
the search engine. Very very nice. Kwality.
This means you'll need to mine a site like MDL or similar, manually, for
an answer.
Paul
On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be inappropriate >> for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other) videos. >>
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On a Linux terminal:
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm myv=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
inappropriate for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and
many other) videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
inappropriate
for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other)
videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On a Linux terminal:
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
On 17/06/23 15:51, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-17 06:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm
my age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily
track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
inappropriate
for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other)
videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On a Linux terminal:
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
To my surprise, worked fine here w/o needing login creds.
Why the OP wants to "hide" from watching that particular video is a
mystery to me.
since when one's privacy needs any justification at all ? It should
still be the default ...
On 2023-06-17 06:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in
to confirm my age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they
can easily track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may
be inappropriate
for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and
many other) videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or
Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can
track me?
On a Linux terminal:
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
To my surprise, worked fine here w/o needing login creds.
Why the OP wants to "hide" from watching that particular
video is a mystery to me.
(Did this in Ubuntu under VMWare Fusion on a Mac)
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be inappropriate for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other) videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On a Linux terminal:
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
Yeah, I thought that would be an interesting experiment.
Via Windows Bash shell and Ubuntu installation, this is my result.
It's not even getting to parse anything.
cer@Telcontar:~/tmp/Wally> yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
[youtube] Extracting URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8 [youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading webpage
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading android player API JSON
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading tv embedded player API JSON
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web embedded client config
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading player 6ed0d907
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web embedded player API JSON
[info] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading 1 format(s): 248+251
[dashsegments] Total fragments: 4
[download] Destination: Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f248.webm
[download] 100% of 35.43MiB in 00:00:01 at 25.00MiB/s
[dashsegments] Total fragments: 1
[download] Destination: Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f251.webm
[download] 100% of 2.61MiB in 00:00:00 at 15.73MiB/s
[Merger] Merging formats into "Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].webm"
Deleting original file Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f251.webm (pass -k to keep)
Deleting original file Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f248.webm (pass -k to keep)
cer@Telcontar:~/tmp/Wally>
switch to incognito/private tab
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a
throwaway email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require
TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ...
I tried temporary numbers, and they don't work.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android withoutI just watched the video using Edge on Windows as usual.
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
Just had to OK the may be inappropriate warning.
I have Google accounts for email but have never given them a phone
number or my age.
On 6/17/2023 6:14 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track. >>>
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be inappropriate >>> for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other) videos. >>>
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On a Linux terminal:
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
Yeah, I thought that would be an interesting experiment.
Via Windows Bash shell and Ubuntu installation, this is my result.
It's not even getting to parse anything.
$ yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading webpage
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading android player API JSON
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web agegate player API JSON
ERROR: [youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Sign in to confirm your age. This video may be inappropriate for some users.
$
I didn't really expect a different result than that, but
certainly the experiment was worth trying.
If the returned web page simply does not have a URI the tool can harvest, >then that is about all they can do.
Only if there is a way to make a cookie, or one of those state schemes
to generate a "maturity token", could you break in without naming yourself. >And then the maturity token server has all your details (the token scheme
is an attempt to anonymize the user). This might have been described in
a recent Pornhub-related article.
Would a VPN work ?
Dunno. Would depend on whether policies displayed are "global" or not.
Even my attempt to search this topic on Bing, was truncated by
the search engine. Very very nice. Kwality.
This means you'll need to mine a site like MDL or similar, manually, for an answer.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 12:22:54 +0200, MarioCPPP wrote:
switch to incognito/private tab
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a
throwaway email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require
TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ...
I tried temporary numbers, and they don't work.
The OP should remove Apple newsgroups because iOS is a brain dead platform.
The OP should remove Apple newsgroups because iOS is a brain dead platform.
Eh?
On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 13:25:57 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
The OP should remove Apple newsgroups because iOS is a brain dead platform. >>Eh?
I've seen you post to Windows so I'm surprised you don't know iOS is crap.
Everyone knows that iOS is brain dead.
The proof is in the taste of the pudding.
There will NEVER be a solution for the iOS platform.
There is ALREADY a solution for all the other platforms.
Given the OP's question of watching an age-restricted YouTube video,
the solution has been provided for Windows, Linux and Android already.
And I stress the answer will NEVER be a web site in a web browser.
The only thing the brain dead iOS platform can do is go to web pages.
The answer is a dedicated app for Android.
It's a dedicated app for Linux.
And a dedicated app for Windows.
Nobody has an answer for iOS.
The reason is that iOS is a brain dead platform in almost every way.
If it's not, then post a link to the iOS app that does what the OP asked.
Don't post a web site.
Post a dedicated app that does EXACTLY what the OP asked for!
1. The user does NOT need to create a Google Account.
2. The user will download or view the video without verifying anything.
3. As an added bonus, none of the suggested apps will ever show an ad.
4. As a double added bonus, all the suggested apps are free open source.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 12:22:54 +0200, MarioCPPP wrote:
switch to incognito/private tab create throwaway google account (for
total paranoia use a throwaway email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require
TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ... I tried
temporary numbers, and they don't work.
The OP should remove Apple newsgroups because iOS is a brain dead
platform.
On 2023-06-17, Beyond the pale <invalid@is.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 12:22:54 +0200, MarioCPPP wrote:
switch to incognito/private tab create throwaway google account (for
total paranoia use a throwaway email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require
TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ... I tried
temporary numbers, and they don't work.
The OP should remove Apple newsgroups because iOS is a brain dead
platform.
You poor little thing!! Point to the place on the doll where Apple hurt
you. 🤣
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
Yes.
I've seen you post to Windows so I'm surprised you don't know iOS is crap.
I only posted on the Windows group a while ago as I have an upcoming
"home office configuration fork" coming and I might buy a small cheap computer for Windows to support a decidedly aged app that I still use
for certain things. There's also Sage 50 (only distributed for Windows)
but I don't need it critically, but may need (with a very low coeficient
of "may" - VM's do the job currently but not on Apple Silicon).
You seem to be like an Apple user making excuses for the flaws in iOS.Everyone knows that iOS is brain dead.
The proof is in the taste of the pudding.
Sure. Why Apple sell iPhones like hotcakes for a wide segment of the population.
Meanwhile some very "niche" users on other platforms get their Apple
Hatred up in a froth. Amusing or tragic? Not sure.
There will NEVER be a solution for the iOS platform.
There is ALREADY a solution for all the other platforms.
Given the OP's question of watching an age-restricted YouTube video,
the solution has been provided for Windows, Linux and Android already.
And I stress the answer will NEVER be a web site in a web browser.
And only a few obsessed angry Apple haters care.
The only thing the brain dead iOS platform can do is go to web pages.
That smacks of ignorance, but do carry on (Gee - I have dozens of apps
that are not in web pages ...).
1. The user does NOT need to create a Google Account.
2. The user will download or view the video without verifying anything.
3. As an added bonus, none of the suggested apps will ever show an ad.
4. As a double added bonus, all the suggested apps are free open source.
Phhhewt. Google run YouTube the way they want to run it. If that
requires login for some content then that is their right. If there are
work arounds for that that violate the legal and clearly defined
conditions that Google put out and Apple exclude apps that violate
another company's conditions, that speaks well for both Apple and Google.
But, Apple Haters are blind to reality.
On 2023-06-17 06:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track. >>>
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
inappropriate
for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other)
videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On a Linux terminal:
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
To my surprise, worked fine here w/o needing login creds.
Why the OP wants to "hide" from watching that particular video is a
mystery to me.
(Did this in Ubuntu under VMWare Fusion on a Mac)
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-17 06:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track. >>>>
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
inappropriate
for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other)
videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On a Linux terminal:
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
To my surprise, worked fine here w/o needing login creds.
Why the OP wants to "hide" from watching that particular video is a
mystery to me.
(Did this in Ubuntu under VMWare Fusion on a Mac)
Probably a local requirement to meet differing legal systems? Maybe the OP could try a VPN to a different country/state?
On 6/17/2023 9:10 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
cer@Telcontar:~/tmp/Wally> yt-dlp
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
[youtube] Extracting URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading webpage
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading android player API JSON
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading tv embedded player API JSON
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web embedded client config
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading player 6ed0d907
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web embedded player API JSON
[info] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading 1 format(s): 248+251
[dashsegments] Total fragments: 4
[download] Destination: Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches;
Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f248.webm
[download] 100% of 35.43MiB in 00:00:01 at 25.00MiB/s
[dashsegments] Total fragments: 1
[download] Destination: Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches;
Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f251.webm
[download] 100% of 2.61MiB in 00:00:00 at 15.73MiB/s
[Merger] Merging formats into "Russian troops enter Ukraine Army
trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch
[9SSrXOkCRd8].webm"
Deleting original file Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches;
Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f251.webm
(pass -k to keep)
Deleting original file Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches;
Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f248.webm
(pass -k to keep)
cer@Telcontar:~/tmp/Wally>
Downloading Ubuntu 23.04 and repeating, works as yours does,
and returns the same software release number. Even though
it likely is not the most up-to-date version. Apparently
Debian does not want dynamic updates being done by individual
tools [security issue, not checked by treeherder].
The one I was using, was older. And for most things, it's been
working.
Some tools, and this is one, needs to be updated frequently. It is a
war, people wanting to download, youtube wanting people not to download.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 14:05:18 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
I've seen you post to Windows so I'm surprised you don't know iOS is crap. >>I only posted on the Windows group a while ago as I have an upcoming
"home office configuration fork" coming and I might buy a small cheap
computer for Windows to support a decidedly aged app that I still use
for certain things. There's also Sage 50 (only distributed for Windows)
but I don't need it critically, but may need (with a very low coeficient
of "may" - VM's do the job currently but not on Apple Silicon).
I saw your posts about having an old Windows PC so I figured you knew something about computers. But maybe you don't know anything about them.
If a Windows users says an app exists, they can point to that app.
On the Apple newsgroups, they can't point to the app since it never exists.
You seem to be like an Apple user making excuses for the flaws in iOS.Everyone knows that iOS is brain dead.
The proof is in the taste of the pudding.
Sure. Why Apple sell iPhones like hotcakes for a wide segment of the
population.
By claiming that because Apple sells garbage to the masses, it's good.
They sell Rolex watches too but that doesn't mean they tell time well.
But the proof of your opinion will be in the taste of your pudding.
If you know of an iOS app that does what the OP asked for, name it.
On 6/16/2023 10:36 PM, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
inappropriate
for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other)
videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
Create multiple YouTube accounts.
On 2023-06-17 14:28, Chris wrote:
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-17 06:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track. >>>>>
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
inappropriate
for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other)
videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On a Linux terminal:
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
To my surprise, worked fine here w/o needing login creds.
Why the OP wants to "hide" from watching that particular video is a
mystery to me.
(Did this in Ubuntu under VMWare Fusion on a Mac)
Probably a local requirement to meet differing legal systems? Maybe the OP >> could try a VPN to a different country/state?
I just tried it on Mac, Firefox, no login and got the "Sign in ..." message, so not due to this locale (Canada).
I had seen the other post (Paul) where the same Linux command failed. yet for me it worked (Firefox/Linux).
No idea why.
MarioCPPP wrote on 17/6/23 8:22 pm:
On 17/06/23 07:54, Andy Burns wrote:
Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm myswitch to incognito/private tab
age
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track. >>
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ...
I tried temporary numbers, and they don't work.
The telephone number scam is also hidden in some promotional offerings.
An example : i have some non verified emails, and when trying to
activate a couple of cloud extentions (the popular clones of google
drive), entering a couple of emails not associated to numbers, the host required to use not better precised SAFER EMAILs :D :D :D
They want to link every info, avery activity with a physical person.
I am currently unable to check how much of my ISP account monthly usage
I have used because I haven't update my account information (all this two-state checking stuff).
Last week I enquired of my ISP and they wanted me to enable my mobile
phone camera, point it at my face and, if I read the SMS correctly, LET
THEM TAKE A PHOTO OF MY FACE!! Sure, I might be misreading it and they
only want ME to take the photo ..... but, either way, they have got to
be joking, haven't they??
If I ever get around to sending I photo, I've been thinking of sending a photo of my Dog or some such!! ;-P
That was a version issue. I booted the latest non-LTS OS (Ubuntu 23.04)
and the same version of yt-dlp was in it as the one Carlos used,
and then it worked fine.
Do you really think that every platform has to support every little
obscure thing?
Is that useful to everyone or just a narrow minded bunch of Apple haters?
Andy Burns wrote:
switch to incognito/private tab
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE
number
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
That was a version issue. I booted the latest non-LTS OS (Ubuntu 23.04)
and the same version of yt-dlp was in it as the one Carlos used,
and then it worked fine.
Thank you for your extensive tests with that really nice yt-dlp downloader.
I was surprised to learn it has over a thousand supported video sites. https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/blob/master/supportedsites.md
for me it worked (Firefox/Linux).
In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
MarioCPPP wrote on 17/6/23 8:22 pm:
On 17/06/23 07:54, Andy Burns wrote:
Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my >>>>> ageswitch to incognito/private tab
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track. >>>>
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE
number, the most personal information ever ...
I tried temporary numbers, and they don't work.
The telephone number scam is also hidden in some promotional offerings.
An example : i have some non verified emails, and when trying to
activate a couple of cloud extentions (the popular clones of google
drive), entering a couple of emails not associated to numbers, the host
required to use not better precised SAFER EMAILs :D :D :D
They want to link every info, avery activity with a physical person.
I am currently unable to check how much of my ISP account monthly usage
I have used because I haven't update my account information (all this
two-state checking stuff).
Last week I enquired of my ISP and they wanted me to enable my mobile
phone camera, point it at my face and, if I read the SMS correctly, LET
THEM TAKE A PHOTO OF MY FACE!! Sure, I might be misreading it and they
only want ME to take the photo ..... but, either way, they have got to
be joking, haven't they??
If I ever get around to sending I photo, I've been thinking of sending a
photo of my Dog or some such!! ;-P
Which ISP was that? :(
The only system so far without any suggested working solution is iOS.
MarioCPPP wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
switch to incognito/private tab
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a
throwaway email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly
require TELEPHONE number
So buy a burner phone with cash while wearing a balaclava :-)
If a GUI is preferred, the OP might want to try ClipGrab. Mageia has it in their repositories, so other Linux distros probably do, too.
It's available for many platforms, including Mac, but not iOS devices.
https://clipgrab.org/
TJ
On 6/17/2023 3:07 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-17 14:28, Chris wrote:
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-17 06:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm >>>>>> my age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily
track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
inappropriate
for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other) >>>>>> videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without >>>>>> creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On a Linux terminal:
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
To my surprise, worked fine here w/o needing login creds.
Why the OP wants to "hide" from watching that particular video is a
mystery to me.
(Did this in Ubuntu under VMWare Fusion on a Mac)
Probably a local requirement to meet differing legal systems? Maybe
the OP
could try a VPN to a different country/state?
I just tried it on Mac, Firefox, no login and got the "Sign in ..."
message, so not due to this locale (Canada).
I had seen the other post (Paul) where the same Linux command failed.
yet for me it worked (Firefox/Linux).
No idea why.
That was a version issue. I booted the latest non-LTS OS (Ubuntu 23.04)
and the same version of yt-dlp was in it as the one Carlos used,
and then it worked fine.
On 17/06/23 22:17, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-17 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Some tools, and this is one, needs to be updated
frequently. It is a war, people wanting to download,
youtube wanting people not to download.
Their platform, their rules.
what about the ownership of the CONTENTS ?
On 2023-06-17 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Some tools, and this is one, needs to be updated
frequently. It is a war, people wanting to download,
youtube wanting people not to download.
Their platform, their rules.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 16:16:32 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
Do you really think that every platform has to support every little
obscure thing?
It's not that iOS doesn't support every little thing but that iOS is so restrained by the walled-garden limitations that it doesn't do anything.
On 18/06/23 09:30, Andy Burns wrote:
MarioCPPP wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
switch to incognito/private tab
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE number
So buy a burner phone with cash while wearing a balaclava :-)
we don't have here in Shitaly, alas
The only system so far without any suggested working solution is iOS.
On 17/06/23 22:17, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-17 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Some tools, and this is one, needs to be updated frequently. It is a
war, people wanting to download, youtube wanting people not to download.
Their platform, their rules.
what about the ownership of the CONTENTS ?
btw ... I adore your signature, I often mention it too
When I was riding on the public transit bus, a drug dealer had three
phones with him. He sat in his seat, and arranged a
burner phone to sit on each leg while seated. Presumably
the burner phones would receive SMS with orders.
(The display on each phone was running.)
His so-called "first-personal" phone was an iPhone
and kept in his vest pocket.
So I got to see what a real live villain looks like :-)
The man had an "assistant" who traveled with him, but
the assistant did not sit next to him. The assistant
was careful to sit at the other end of the bus. Such
OPSEC. They must have taken OPSEC courses, to get this good.
See, this is what happens when you can't afford a flash car.
You ride the bus, with your burner phones.
When I place my bus fare in the box, this is the
kind of entertainment I've come to expect.
Do you really think that every platform has to support every little
obscure thing?
It's not that iOS doesn't support every little thing but that iOS is so
restrained by the walled-garden limitations that it doesn't do anything.
Not a walled garden no matter how much you shout it like Trump at a MAGA rally.
iOS does plenty, in droves. Otherwise people would not buy iPhones.
In droves.
On 2023-06-17 18:04, Paul wrote:
On 6/17/2023 3:07 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-17 14:28, Chris wrote:
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-17 06:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my ageOn a Linux terminal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
inappropriate
for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other) >>>>>>> videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without >>>>>>> creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me? >>>>>>
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
To my surprise, worked fine here w/o needing login creds.
Why the OP wants to "hide" from watching that particular video is a
mystery to me.
(Did this in Ubuntu under VMWare Fusion on a Mac)
Probably a local requirement to meet differing legal systems? Maybe the OP >>>> could try a VPN to a different country/state?
I just tried it on Mac, Firefox, no login and got the "Sign in ..." message, so not due to this locale (Canada).
I had seen the other post (Paul) where the same Linux command failed. yet for me it worked (Firefox/Linux).
No idea why.
That was a version issue. I booted the latest non-LTS OS (Ubuntu 23.04)
and the same version of yt-dlp was in it as the one Carlos used,
and then it worked fine.
Interesting. Then of course one has to ask "why" does "this" work. But - please don't spend time on it!
On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 10:56:10 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
Do you really think that every platform has to support every little
obscure thing?
It's not that iOS doesn't support every little thing but that iOS is so
restrained by the walled-garden limitations that it doesn't do anything.
Not a walled garden no matter how much you shout it like Trump at a MAGA
rally.
iOS does plenty, in droves. Otherwise people would not buy iPhones.
In droves.
This kind of endless lies about the operating system being able to do something that it can't do only happens on the Apple newsgroups.
Never does this happen on the Windows, Linux or Android newsgroups.
All those excuses for why the walled garden locks out useful YouTube apps? And still you haven't found any app that does what yt-dlp & newpipe do?
On 6/18/2023 10:47 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
Interesting. Then of course one has to ask "why" does "this" work.
But - please don't spend time on it!
There are two or three developers, who keep yt-dlp running on
a daily basis. They receive bug reports and site requests.
Some of the audience members, may do analysis and propose a fix
in their bug report, which reduces the work the developer
has to do. A single developer, couldn't keep up with the
workload. There are also people in the audience, who may
offer proposals for protocol workarounds.
For an organization like Debian (Ubuntu, LinuxMint), they like
to snapshot a release, remove the -U update option, and put it in
the distro tree. This means if you stay in-tree as a Linux user,
your software can get stale. Compared to other platforms where the users
are using the -U option.
I don't keep up on the details, so can't answer exactly how
they are getting around this. The software is capable of byte-range
requests, and it uses multiple threads to fetch a video and that
is why you get your video so quickly.
Bypassing an age-check, may involve "crafting a token" that
says you've been here before and by-the-way, you're eighteen.
Youtube may involve more than one domain, if you're checking
your browser for "footprints". I've seen a couple entries
in the DOM, but I don't know what put them there. And sometimes
when I check, there is only one DOM entry. I don't particularly
care about this topic, but when I'm browser-cleaning, I sometimes
notice weirdness like that.
All the suggested solutions provided an ad free & login free experience
which allowed anyone to easily download that example age-restricted video.
The only system so far without any suggested working solution is iOS.
All those excuses for why the walled garden locks out useful YouTube apps?
And still you haven't found any app that does what yt-dlp & newpipe do?
Some tools, and this is one, needs to be updated
frequently. It is a war, people wanting to download,
youtube wanting people not to download.
Their platform, their rules.
what about the ownership of the CONTENTS ?
working solutions for ios have been explained to your various nyms many
times in multiple threads. you continue to ignore all of it.
Only the child-minds like yours go diving for edge cases with which to
attack Apple.
Bypassing an age-check, may involve "crafting a token" that
says you've been here before and by-the-way, you're eighteen.
Youtube may involve more than one domain, if you're checking
your browser for "footprints". I've seen a couple entries
in the DOM, but I don't know what put them there. And sometimes
when I check, there is only one DOM entry. I don't particularly
care about this topic, but when I'm browser-cleaning, I sometimes
notice weirdness like that.
They use public APIs and they do NOT need to sign any Google agreements.
It's all open source so if Google could shut them down - they would have.
Only Apple can shut these things down. But not Windows, Linux or Android.
As a result of the walled garden those free open source solutions exist for all platforms but iOS (only iOS users would put up with the walled garden).
That's yet again something that is super critically useful to everyone but which is not available on iOS because iOS is a brain dead walled garden.
On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:42:10 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
Only the child-minds like yours go diving for edge cases with which to
attack Apple.
Notice that you call anyone who says the truth about Apple "child minds", when it's you who can't find the app you lied about existing on iOS.
The app doesn't exist on iOS (but it exists on _every_ other platform!).
That means your common excuse for iOS being brain dead won't work here.
Everyone want it - but only iOS can't have it (due to the walled garden).
Everyone want it - but only iOS can't have it (due to the walled garden).
Clearly you failed to read the prior post with all the adult reasons why Apple would block the narrow-edge case you're seeking to make.
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be inappropriate for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other) videos.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
In your fervent desire to make excuses for the lack of iOS functionality, you've ignored that _all_ the functionality spoken here is on macOS.
Only iOS lacks this functionality.
Everyone want it - but only iOS can't have it (due to the walled garden). >>Clearly you failed to read the prior post with all the adult reasons why
Apple would block the narrow-edge case you're seeking to make.
he's ignoring that google will remove any app that violates its terms
of service or any of its properties, including youtube, just like
apple, microsoft and other companies.
The app doesn't exist on iOS (but it exists on _every_ other platform!).
That means your common excuse for iOS being brain dead won't work here.
Edge case that only Apple Hater children care about.
ClipGrab, an app for Mac/Windows/Linux does what you need. <https://clipgrab.org>
Beyond the pale wrote:
There are many FOSS youtube clients on Android, Windows & Linux.
Some are almost perfect copies of the YouTube app (on Android).
Others are downloaders (on Windows & Linux) which download the videos.
I find youtube-dl doesn't work for music videos for certain artistes.
I surmise they have borked the metadata so as to foil such tools.
On 2023-06-19, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
ClipGrab, an app for Mac/Windows/Linux does what you need.
<https://clipgrab.org>
What's hilarious is what it says about the iPad on that web site.
AFAIR youtube-dl development stalled, so yt-dlp was forked.
On 6/18/2023 8:52 AM, MarioCPPP wrote:
On 18/06/23 09:30, Andy Burns wrote:
MarioCPPP wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
switch to incognito/private tab
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require
TELEPHONE number
So buy a burner phone with cash while wearing a balaclava :-)
we don't have here in Shitaly, alas
They're quite economical.
https://www.wired.com/2017/02/7-great-burner-phones/
When I was riding on the public transit bus, a drug dealer had three
phones with him. He sat in his seat, and arranged a
burner phone to sit on each leg while seated. Presumably
the burner phones would receive SMS with orders.
(The display on each phone was running.)
His so-called "first-personal" phone was an iPhone
and kept in his vest pocket.
So I got to see what a real live villain looks like :-)
The man had an "assistant" who traveled with him, but
the assistant did not sit next to him. The assistant
was careful to sit at the other end of the bus. Such
OPSEC. They must have taken OPSEC courses, to get this good.
What's hilarious is what it says about the iPad on that web site.
Yes, there will probably never be a version of ClipGrab for iPad.
The original poster did not seem to need that.
And yes, sometimes an App Store rule make us Apple fans scratch our heads.
I must add, ClipGrab's instructions for transferring videos are years out-of-date. One no longer needs to invoke iTunes, which essentially no longer exists. There are simpler, faster ways now.
Only iOS lacks this functionality.
the only thing lacking is your ability to figure out how to do whatever
it is you supposedly want to do (other than trolling, which is the true goal).
On 2023-06-19, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
What's hilarious is what it says about the iPad on that web site.
Yes, there will probably never be a version of ClipGrab for iPad.
Your suggestion to use ClipGrab turned out to be a great idea for PCs.
I had to go back to the OP to find what the original age-restricted URL was as none of the thumbnails were blurred out as they would have likely been.Cut here:....................................^
The original URL is crazy long for some reason unknown to me though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
Overall, this ClipGrab package wraps a rather nice GUI around the youtube downloader and the ffmpeg converter, and as that, it's a nice tool indeed!
Thank you for finding something that most of us never knew about before
since this topic was covered many times but ClipGrab wasn't part of it.
AFAIR youtube-dl development stalled, so yt-dlp was forked.
that's because google kept making changes that broke it and they
stopped bothering to keep up.
further, there *are* ways to do what you claim is impossible on ios,
Only iOS lacks this functionality.
the only thing lacking is your ability to figure out how to do whatever
it is you supposedly want to do (other than trolling, which is the true goal).
I realize you have to resort to lies to defend why iOS can't do it, and
that you have to say that you never do anything on iOS that everyone does
on the other platforms because the walled garden prevents you from that.
But let's give you the benefit of the doubt that you're telling the truth.
Point to the URL to the app on the iOS Apple app store that does what the
op asked which is watch age-restricted youtube videos without an account.
If a GUI is preferred, the OP might want to try ClipGrab. Mageia has it in their repositories, so other Linux distros probably do, too.
It's available for many platforms, including Mac, but not iOS devices.
https://clipgrab.org/
TJ
Gee, thanks :-/ https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/f980e92af3341650819ca6c985294ebe0aa78d38bdfe249536d7ec7f2efc6ecf
27 security vendors and no sandboxes flagged this file as malicious
Popular threat label adware.offercore/installcore
Don't do that, OK ? That just makes work for us.
I cannot even disassemble that, because I keep getting blocked.
We know what that is, but if a support model for a software product
and a web site relies on *this way* of doing business, this is the year 2023, and please to be fucking off now.
you're not interested in a solution.
I looked all over for a physical youtube-dl.exe but I couldn't find it.
I guess I should have run a before-and-after scan, but I didn't.
Perhaps it incorporated the youtube-dl into the executable?
(Again, I should have run a before and after hash, but I didn't).
On 19/6/2023, nospam wrote:
AFAIR youtube-dl development stalled, so yt-dlp was forked.
that's because google kept making changes that broke it and they
stopped bothering to keep up.
All the apps that do what people want but which Google doesn't want them to do have this same problem, not the least of which is because Google has access to the complete source code so Google knows EXACTLY how they work.
That would be, for example, the youtube downloaders that were suggested. https://newpipe.net/ & https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp
It also includes the Google Play Store apps which get the APKs from the Google repositories but without needing to use the Google Play Store app. https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore & https://auroraoss.com/
None of them require you to create a google account and yet all of them
give you 100% (exactly!) the same exact apps & videos as the Google app.
Most people don't seem to realize that it's not a separate store for
example, or separate videos - but the EXACT videos & apps on the Google servers. This is because these apps always use the Google public APIs.
Most people don't seem to realize that it's not a separate store for
example, or separate videos - but the EXACT videos & apps on the Google
servers. This is because these apps always use the Google public APIs.
Of course we know it is the same videos, otherwise we would not use the downloaders.
for me it worked (Firefox/Linux).
are you *certain* you're not already signed-in to any other google web property? check with a firefox private tab ...
youtube apps are not locked out of the mythical walled garden.
On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 18:07:54 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
The app doesn't exist on iOS (but it exists on _every_ other platform!). >>> That means your common excuse for iOS being brain dead won't work here.
Edge case that only Apple Hater children care about.
Your problem is there are literally thousands of app capabilities like that one which everyone wants that are on all the other platforms.
But never on iOS.
No other reason.
The reason iOS lacks what every other platform has is that walled garden.
That's thousands of excuses you have to make for lack of iOS capability.
All due to the very real walled garden that you lied saying does not exist.
On 2023-06-19, Incubus <u9536612@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-19, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
ClipGrab, an app for Mac/Windows/Linux does what you need.
<https://clipgrab.org>
What's hilarious is what it says about the iPad on that web site.
Yes, there will probably never be a version of ClipGrab for iPad. The original poster did not seem to need that. And yes, sometimes an App
Store rule make us Apple fans scratch our heads.
On 2023-06-19, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
Your suggestion to use ClipGrab turned out to be a great idea for PCs.
One has to wonder why Apple lets the same useful apps that people put on Windows, Linux and Android onto the Mac but never onto the iOS devices.
But never on iOS.
"thousands"? Wow - show me a few dozen.
No other reason.
The reason iOS lacks what every other platform has is that walled garden.
So, other than iOS being compliant to its client's T&C's, please show me
a few dozen cases (you say literally thousands so shouldn't be an issue, right?) of apps or capabilities that don't exist on iOS.
That's thousands of excuses you have to make for lack of iOS capability.
Thousands! Give us 2 dozen.
All due to the very real walled garden that you lied saying does not exist.
There is no walled garden. There is a great eco-system though - one
that Android/PC/Linux users can only salivate over.
On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:50:44 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
But never on iOS.
"thousands"? Wow - show me a few dozen.
Download youtube videos as per the op's original requirements for one.
Change your app launcher on iOS for another.
Change your app store app on iOS for another still.
Change your default messenger app on iOS for yet another.
Spoof the gps location on iOS for another.
Torrent on iOS for yet another.
Use the real tor browser on iOS for one more.
Use a different iOS contacts manager for your phone dialer for another.
Hell, using a phone dialer of your choice on iOS is another.
Really turn off the iPhone (not just the screen) is yet another.
Running a system wide firewall on iOS is still another iOS can't do.
Also just graphing you wifi signal on iOS is yet another you can't do.
Adding command line access like Termux is another you can't do on iOS.
If you didn't back up an IPA, you're dead if it's not on the app store.
Speaking of backup, you can't backup your entire homescreen, every file, every folder, everthing, to copy it to ANY other phone, now can you?
And the list goes on and on about what only iOS can't do.
As you said, iOS is only a toy.
It doesn't actually do anything.
No other platform has these walled garden strict limitations but iOS.
For every one, your excuse is you don't need to do that, even though every other platform can do them (because they're generally useful things to do).
Your excuse is that you don't do anything on iOS. It's nothing but a toy.
And that's the only thing you've ever said on this thread which is true.
If the answer is "nothing", you've proven my point for me, haven't you.
Alan Browne wrote:
for me it worked (Firefox/Linux).
are you *certain* you're not already signed-in to any other google web property? check with a firefox private tab ...
- Why would one want to do that?
Yes, there will probably never be a version of ClipGrab for iPad. The
original poster did not seem to need that. And yes, sometimes an App
Store rule make us Apple fans scratch our heads.
Google is Apple's client and is billed roughly $15B / year by Apple for
the privilege of being the default search engine on Apple products.
So, no surprise that Apple honours Google's YouTube T&Cs - indeed it may
be required that Apple do so - in apps for iOS/iPad.
Really turn off the iPhone (not just the screen) is yet another.
Running a system wide firewall on iOS is still another iOS can't do.
Also just graphing you wifi signal on iOS is yet another you can't do.
Adding command line access like Termux is another you can't do on iOS.
If you didn't back up an IPA, you're dead if it's not on the app store.
Speaking of backup, you can't backup your entire homescreen, every file, every folder, everthing, to copy it to ANY other phone, now can you?
And the list goes on and on about what only iOS can't do.
As you said, iOS is only a toy.
It doesn't actually do anything.
No other platform has these walled garden strict limitations but iOS.
Those above are off the top of my head but I can easily add more & more.
Just having two app icons in two different folders on iOS you can't do.
Making shortcuts to any public page inside any app you can't do either.
Google wants you to view their ads on YouTube, so they
try their best to make it inconvenient to eliminate them, not just on
iOS but on Android as well.
Apple ain't no fool when it comes to allowing ANY app to run on a Mac.
It's always been that way. Since they started beefing up security years
ago, it is now necessary to jump through a tiny hoop the first time one launches a "non-notarized" app.
Your suggestion to use ClipGrab turned out to be a great idea for PCs.
Nice review of ClipGrab for PC. I recommended this app because the Mac version works well for me, and I was hoping the experience on other
platforms would be the same.
One has to wonder why Apple lets the same useful apps that people put on
Windows, Linux and Android onto the Mac but never onto the iOS devices.
The ClipGrab website makes no mention that their app is available on ANY mobile device. Google wants you to view their ads on YouTube, so they
try their best to make it inconvenient to eliminate them, not just on
iOS but on Android as well.
Apple ain't no fool when it comes to allowing ANY app to run on a Mac.
It's always been that way. Since they started beefing up security years
ago, it is now necessary to jump through a tiny hoop the first time one launches a "non-notarized" app.
On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 16:59:23 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
- Why would one want to do that?
You asked for dozens of things the iPhone couldn't do that _every_ other operating system easily does - and you got it off the top of my head.
On 20-06-2023 01:25 Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Yes, there will probably never be a version of ClipGrab for iPad. The
original poster did not seem to need that. And yes, sometimes an App
Store rule make us Apple fans scratch our heads.
Google is Apple's client and is billed roughly $15B / year by Apple
for the privilege of being the default search engine on Apple products.
So, no surprise that Apple honours Google's YouTube T&Cs - indeed it
may be required that Apple do so - in apps for iOS/iPad.
What I find interesting is how Trumpian this Alan guy is when he says
"Apple honors Google's YouTube T&Cs" and yet, Apple clearly does not.
Maybe this Alan guy doesn't know all this stuff works just fine on the mac.
Why is it only iOS that can't do what every other OS does (even the mac)?
- Why would one want to do that?
You asked for dozens of things the iPhone couldn't do that _every_ other
operating system easily does - and you got it off the top of my head.
Yes, a curated list of edge cases that the vast, vast, vast majority of people don't care about (or need to).
Android users (the vast majority) don't worry about those things either.
Adults get it.
And to the degree that some people may need some of those things,
hooray, they can have them. So be happy.
On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 17:46:58 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
- Why would one want to do that?
You asked for dozens of things the iPhone couldn't do that _every_ other >>> operating system easily does - and you got it off the top of my head.
Yes, a curated list of edge cases that the vast, vast, vast majority of
people don't care about (or need to).
Android users (the vast majority) don't worry about those things either.
Adults get it.
And to the degree that some people may need some of those things,
hooray, they can have them. So be happy.
You're the one who lied consistently in this thread, and then you tell everyone who told you the truth about iOS that they're not adults?
You haven't backed up a single claim you made (they were all lies).
If people like you stayed on the Apple newsgroups, this thread would be one tenth the size that it currently is because of all your lies about Apple.
On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 17:46:58 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
- Why would one want to do that?
You asked for dozens of things the iPhone couldn't do that _every_ other >>> operating system easily does - and you got it off the top of my head.
Yes, a curated list of edge cases that the vast, vast, vast majority of
people don't care about (or need to).
Android users (the vast majority) don't worry about those things either.
Adults get it.
And to the degree that some people may need some of those things,
hooray, they can have them. So be happy.
You're the one who lied consistently in this thread, and then you tell everyone who told you the truth about iOS that they're not adults?
You haven't backed up a single claim you made (they were all lies).
If people like you stayed on the Apple newsgroups, this thread would be one tenth the size that it currently is because of all your lies about Apple.
Paul, how were you able to identify these two so, apparently, easily?? (I'm guessing there weren't queue forming in-front of either!) Admittedly, I don't travel on PT all that often.
On 2023-06-18, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
If a GUI is preferred, the OP might want to try ClipGrab.� Mageia has it in their repositories, so other Linux distros probably do, too.
It's available for many platforms, including Mac, but not iOS devices.
https://clipgrab.org/
TJ
Gee, thanks :-/
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/f980e92af3341650819ca6c985294ebe0aa78d38bdfe249536d7ec7f2efc6ecf
27 security vendors and no sandboxes flagged this file as malicious >> Popular threat label adware.offercore/installcore
Don't do that, OK ? That just makes work for us.
I cannot even disassemble that, because I keep getting blocked.
We know what that is, but if a support model for a software product
and a web site relies on *this way* of doing business, this is the year 2023,
and please to be fucking off now.
I haven't seen a virus/PUP in years on Windows 10 so I'm confused by that.
I briefly tested the ClipGrab portable app for Windows 10 from clipgrab.org https://download.clipgrab.org/clipgrab-3.9.7-portable.exe
And wrote up my experience with the OP's age-restricted video over here. https://groups.google.com/g/alt.os.linux/c/OEwyZxrNb7M/m/uxFD5rRbAAAJ
Windows Defender didn't complain but maybe it contains PUPs?
How do I feed the executable to the virus scanner to check?
I right clicked on it and selected the option to run Microsoft Defender.
It found nothing.
What's the best way to check the exe for viruses once already installed? Name: clipgrab.exe
Size: 1119744 bytes (1093 KiB)
CRC32: 29706482
CRC64: B758CFA1D539BBEB
SHA256: 10770DA581CC85D55A286D42A0428ACCAFE6C7910BC640CC4264DA7FB26DAFA4 SHA1: FB34BA0178B5764B6CCC9D228796196EE172980E
BLAKE2sp: E7308788181036FBED841E8DD33C1F873609B9710D92D7759AE8FBCC2E7E90A7
I know it's just got an Adware Loader inside it.
more than 1 billion people disagree, with apple having some of the
highest customer satisfaction rates in the industry.
If people like you stayed on the Apple newsgroups, this thread would be one >> tenth the size that it currently is because of all your lies about Apple.
You're a child with access to the internet.
despite that, there are ways to block ads, including on ios
Why is it only iOS that can't do what every other OS does (even the mac)?
Macs allow 3rd party s/w in w/o a hard gate via Apple. Historical baggage?
The search keyword is "9SSrXOkCRd8"
Overall, this ClipGrab package wraps a rather nice GUI around the youtube
downloader and the ffmpeg converter, and as that, it's a nice tool indeed! >>
Thank you for finding something that most of us never knew about before
since this topic was covered many times but ClipGrab wasn't part of it.
It would be interesting to find out what version of the youtube
downloader it got.
The op wanted to view age-restricted videos, where the solutions worked on every platform except for on iOS, and where those solutions just happened
to block all google-inserted ads (but that was just a bonus feature).
That capability is not available on iOS due to walled garden restrictions.
You have claimed it exists but that's a lie because you can't point to the URL on the Apple App Store that you claim exists (but it doesn't exist).
Why is it only iOS that never can do what every other operating system does?
The answer is simple.
Do you ever run out of excuses for why it's only iOS that can never do what smart people on every other operating system do every day of their lives?
On 2023-06-19, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
The search keyword is "9SSrXOkCRd8"
Thanks. ClipGrab program works like a fullscreen YouTube app when you
search.
For example, I typed a search for "denys davydov" and it found his videos. When you click on one of them, it moves you to the download tab to get it.
Overall, this ClipGrab package wraps a rather nice GUI around the youtube >>> downloader and the ffmpeg converter, and as that, it's a nice tool indeed! >>>
Thank you for finding something that most of us never knew about before
since this topic was covered many times but ClipGrab wasn't part of it.
It would be interesting to find out what version of the youtube
downloader it got.
I found the version and location when I went to the ClipGrab About tab.
At the bottom of that tab it says "ClipGrab 3.9.7"
youtube-dlp: C:/Users/./AppData/Roaming/ClipGrab/ClipGrab/yt-dlp
(2023.03.04)
Python: C:/Program Files (x86)/ClipGrab/ClipGrab/python/python.exe (3.7.9)
Yes, it uses slashes and not backslashes.
That tells us it's using the latest yt-dlp but what's interesting is that
the "yt-dlp" file it points to is a binary file but not an executable.
I tried running yt-dlp after renaming it to yt-dlp.exe but that failed.
On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 18:45:39 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
If people like you stayed on the Apple newsgroups, this thread would be one >>> tenth the size that it currently is because of all your lies about Apple. >>You're a child with access to the internet.
Let's stop your silly Apple parade of lies charade please.
Your rubbish happens every time you Apple nutjobs make up all sorts of lame excuses for why only iOS can't do thousands of things other OS's easily do.
Like watch a youtube video without ads and without needing to create an account (which means you can easily watch even age-restricted videos) on
any platform (as long as that platform isn't a walled garden iOS device).
Why is it only iOS that never can do what every other operating system does?
The answer is simple.
Why is it only iOS that never can do what every other operating system does?
The answer is simple.
Yes, it is simple. No one who buys an iPhone cares about geeky stuff like that. People buy iPhones and iPads BECAUSE you dont have be a computer geek/ultra nerd to use them. If you want to be an OS geek, then use Linux/Android/whatever. No one cares.
It must kill you that Apple has 8 of the top 10 best selling phones in the world, AND dominates the tablet market. There are multiple reasons for
that. Not having to go to command prompts and typing gibberish commands to do geeky stuff is but one reason.
But hey, feel free to stomp your feet and scream walled garden at the
sky. No one cares.
On 2023-06-19, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
I know it's just got an Adware Loader inside it.
One of which is filled with PUPs that only an ignorant fool would use.
Beyond the pale <invalid@is.invalid> wrote:
Why is it only iOS that never can do what every other operating system does? >>
The answer is simple.
Yes, it is simple. No one who buys an iPhone cares about geeky stuff like that. People buy iPhones and iPads BECAUSE you don’t have be a computer geek/ultra nerd to use them. If you want to be an OS geek, then use Linux/Android/whatever. No one cares.
It must kill you that Apple has 8 of the top 10 best selling phones in the world, AND dominates the tablet market.
In article <b139mjx9qv.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
It must kill you that Apple has 8 of the top 10 best selling phones in the >>> world, AND dominates the tablet market.
No, it doesn't, because it is a biased stat.
how is it biased? it's sales numbers.
If instead of brand you query by system, the results are different.
no surprise there.
changing the query to obtain desired results is by definition biased.
It must kill you that Apple has 8 of the top 10 best selling phones in the world, AND dominates the tablet market.
No, it doesn't, because it is a biased stat.
If instead of brand you query by system, the results are different.
On 2023-06-20 16:55, Bob Campbell wrote:
It must kill you that Apple has 8 of the top 10 best selling phones in the >> world, AND dominates the tablet market.
No, it doesn't, because it is a biased stat.
If instead of brand you query by system, the results are different.
On 2023-06-20 16:55, Bob Campbell wrote:
Beyond the pale <invalid@is.invalid> wrote:
Why is it only iOS that never can do what every other operating
system does?
The answer is simple.
Yes, it is simple. No one who buys an iPhone cares about geeky
stuff like that. People buy iPhones and iPads BECAUSE you don’t have
be a computer geek/ultra nerd to use them. If you want to be an OS
geek, then use Linux/Android/whatever. No one cares.
It must kill you that Apple has 8 of the top 10 best selling phones
in the world, AND dominates the tablet market.
No, it doesn't
because it is a biased stat. If instead of brand you
query by system the results are different.
The op wanted to view age-restricted videos, where the solutions worked on >> every platform except for on iOS, and where those solutions just happened
to block all google-inserted ads (but that was just a bonus feature).
no, the op wanted to troll.
That capability is not available on iOS due to walled garden restrictions.
false.
You have claimed it exists but that's a lie because you can't point to the >> URL on the Apple App Store that you claim exists (but it doesn't exist).
how to do it has been explained many times before, in many threads.
Why is it only iOS that never can do what every other operating system does?
why is it that it can, but some people refuse to learn how, even after
having solutions explained to them, which they promptly ignore because
it blows holes in their ability to troll?
The answer is simple.
yep, it's called trolling
most people, regardless of platform, don't care about doing any of the various things the trolls claim as being so important that their lives
might end if they can't do it.
what's hilarious is that ios *can* do just about all of those things,
they just refuse to admit it and no amount of evidence will convince
them otherwise.
no platform can do everything in every situation (another one of their
bogus claims), nor is that even a desirable goal. they also ignore all
of the things ios can do that other platforms can't.
they only want to push the usual lies about locked down, walled garden,
no choice, toy, blah blah.
It must kill you that Apple has 8 of the top 10 best selling phones in the >> world, AND dominates the tablet market. There are multiple reasons for
that. Not having to go to command prompts and typing gibberish commands to >> do geeky stuff is but one reason.
true, however, those who want the command line for whatever reason have
that option, even on ios. they're either too stupid to figure out how
or they are lying that it can't be done.
But hey, feel free to stomp your feet and scream walled garden at the
sky. No one cares.
true.
youtube-dlp: C:/Users/you/AppData/Roaming/ClipGrab/ClipGrab/yt-dlp
(2023.03.04)
Ok, so it is not youtube-dl but yt-dlp.
Yes, it uses slashes and not backslashes.
That tells us it's using the latest yt-dlp but what's interesting is that
the "yt-dlp" file it points to is a binary file but not an executable.
It is a python script.
cer@Telcontar:~> which yt-dlp
/usr/bin/yt-dlp
cer@Telcontar:~> file /usr/bin/yt-dlp
/usr/bin/yt-dlp: a /usr/bin/python3.10 script executable (binary data) cer@Telcontar:~>
I tried running yt-dlp after renaming it to yt-dlp.exe but that failed.
Of course.
Try something like:
cd C:/Program Files (x86)/ClipGrab/ClipGrab/
python/python yt-dlp
The fact is, Apple sells more phones than any other company. Thats a
fact. Deal with it. Yes, overall, there are more Android phones in use
than Apple phones. That is also a fact.
The op wanted to view age-restricted videos, where the solutions worked on >> every platform except for on iOS, and where those solutions just happened >> to block all google-inserted ads (but that was just a bonus feature).
no, the op wanted to troll.
Actually, the OP simply asked a question of all the operating systems.
The reason iOS can't do thousands upon thousands of useful things that everyone else can do is only because Apple's walled garden prevents it.
Thanks for the information that it's a python script.
I tried opening it in Notepad but it shows up as binary gibberish.
I renamed a copy of yt-dlp to yt-dlp.exe and ran it but it gave an error about running 16-bit applications so I gave up figuring out what it is.
Good: https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/camstudio.html
Name: camstudio.exe
Size: 3014376 bytes (2 MB)
SHA256: BF7BBCE5065083934528B540D67168A411F12B4D3676BEDD25E136A61514F472
One of which is filled with PUPs that only an ignorant fool would use.
Some get irate here, if a reference is dropped to a hot potato
and there wasn't a warning. Now, there's a warning.
If the author of the software does not like the feedback,
then remove the payload. Just like Camstudio. Camstudio
is one of the reasons there is feedback today. It's the
prototypical dick move.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CamStudio
Thanks for the information that it's a python script.
I tried opening it in Notepad but it shows up as binary gibberish.
It's a compiled version of the python script. The un-compiled version is ...
The reason iOS can't do thousands upon thousands of useful things that
everyone else can do is only because Apple's walled garden prevents it.
no, it's because certain people refuse to learn how to do what they
claim they want to do, even after being given explicit instructions, so
that they can continue to troll and spout lies that it can't be done.
Do you ever run out of excuses for why it's only iOS that can never do what >> smart people on every other operating system do every day of their lives?
smart people can do whatever they want on ios, including what you claim
as impossible.
it's the dumb people who can't figure out how to do things and then
blame it on apple rather than their own incompetence and stupidity.
and ios can do thousands of things other platforms can do, including
what the op asked.
Your rubbish happens every time you Apple nutjobs make up all sorts of lame >> excuses for why only iOS can't do thousands of things other OS's easily do.The list you provided was edge case stuff that the vast majority of
phone users (iOS or Android) do not care about - at all.
Meanwhile hundreds of millions of people go about their business with
their phones (iOS or Android) w/o using any of the things you listed.
Because they are not needed to be productive, useful or happy.
And of course Apple users with various devices beyond the phone (Watch,
iPad, Mac...) get to enjoy the most seamless eco-system there is....
Like watch a youtube video without ads and without needing to create an
account (which means you can easily watch even age-restricted videos) on
any platform (as long as that platform isn't a walled garden iOS device).
Who cares about such edge cases other than Apple haters who have to desperately show some evidence of a nothing burger.
iOS is no walled garden - just a fantastic eco system.
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 18:51:46 +0000, Bob Campbell wrote:
The fact is, Apple sells more phones than any other company. That’s a
fact. Deal with it. Yes, overall, there are more Android phones in use
than Apple phones. That is also a fact.
It doesn't matter to these Apple zealots that iOS can't do thousands upon thousands of very useful things that everyone else can do (and does do).
Their claim is Apple sales (and huge profits) means "they" were right
(in joining the right herd). Since that's really all they care about.
The proof iOS is a toy operating system is in all the things iOS can't do.
It doesn't matter to these Apple zealots that iOS can't do thousands upon
thousands of very useful things that everyone else can do (and does do).
A dozen or so narrow use case things is not "thousands upon thousands".
The proof iOS is a toy operating system is in all the things iOS can't do.
You remain a child with a child's mind.
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
Do you ever run out of excuses for why it's only iOS that can never do what
smart people on every other operating system do every day of their lives?
smart people can do whatever they want on ios, including what you claim
as impossible.
it's the dumb people who can't figure out how to do things and then
blame it on apple rather than their own incompetence and stupidity.
Why does everyone on Windows, Linux & Android post app URLs to what they claim exists, but you never can post any URL to what you claim exists?
and ios can do thousands of things other platforms can do, including
what the op asked.
Then post the URL to the app that you claim does what the OP asked for.
Then post the URL to the app that you claim does what the OP asked for.
if you really want to know how (as unlikely as that may be)
Why does everyone on Windows, Linux & Android post app URLs to what they
claim exists, but you never can post any URL to what you claim exists?
why do you lie?
In article <u6t6pb$gnjv$1@news.mixmin.net>, Beyond the pale <invalid@is.invalid> wrote:
The op wanted to view age-restricted videos, where the solutions worked on >>>> every platform except for on iOS, and where those solutions just happened >>>> to block all google-inserted ads (but that was just a bonus feature).
no, the op wanted to troll.
Actually, the OP simply asked a question of all the operating systems.
the question was not sincere, nor was it the last gazillion times it
has been asked.
like i said, trolling.
The op wanted to view age-restricted videos, where the solutions worked >>>> onno, the op wanted to troll.
every platform except for on iOS, and where those solutions just happened
to block all google-inserted ads (but that was just a bonus feature). >>>
Actually, the OP simply asked a question of all the operating systems.
the question was not sincere, nor was it the last gazillion times it
has been asked.
like i said, trolling.
The OP question was sincere and has not been asked a gazillion times.
On 2023/06/16 8:36 pm, Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
I was reading this article moments ago where the video screen captioned as
"A CBS Sunday Morning segment where correspondent David Pogue joins Titanic enthusiasts who pay to ride in OceanGate's specially designed submersible vehicle. Originally broadcast November 27, 2022." was totally black. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/06/submarine-missing-near-titanic-used-a-30-logitech-gamepad-for-steering/
Where you would have expected to see that video was this error instead. "Video unavailable. https://youtu.be/29co_Hksk6o
The uploader has not made this video available in your country."
I've seen that a lot and I normally don't watch the video but having read about this thread from a.f.n talking about it, I installed Win10 clipgrab.
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 19:58:41 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
It doesn't matter to these Apple zealots that iOS can't do thousands upon >>> thousands of very useful things that everyone else can do (and does do).
A dozen or so narrow use case things is not "thousands upon thousands".
What you're doing is making excuses for why iOS can't do what the OP asked. That's why you touted Apple sales as "your" answer to a TECHNICAL question.
The logic you're using is that you're claiming it doesn't matter that iOS can't do anything that everyone else can do because that's not important.
What an operating system can do is not at all an important metric to you.
What's important to you are Apple's sales figures (and huge profits too). That's YOUR answer to every technical question ever asked about iOS.
Your claim is Apple sales (and huge profits) means "you" were right
(in joining the right herd). Since that's really all you cared about.
On 2023-06-21 00:58, nospam wrote:
In article <u6t6pb$gnjv$1@news.mixmin.net>, Beyond the pale
<invalid@is.invalid> wrote:
The op wanted to view age-restricted videos, where the solutionsno, the op wanted to troll.
worked on
every platform except for on iOS, and where those solutions just
happened
to block all google-inserted ads (but that was just a bonus feature). >>>>
Actually, the OP simply asked a question of all the operating systems.
the question was not sincere, nor was it the last gazillion times it
has been asked.
like i said, trolling.
The OP question was sincere and has not been asked a gazillion times. It
was:
«I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
What you're doing is making excuses for why iOS can't do what the OP asked. That's why you touted Apple sales as "your" answer to a TECHNICAL question.
Twist all you want. The facts of the matter are:
- the OP's question was a setup
- the OP had various workaround options (real world)
- Apple respects the T&Cs of its client (Google).
On 2023-06-21 04:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-21 00:58, nospam wrote:
In article <u6t6pb$gnjv$1@news.mixmin.net>, Beyond the pale
<invalid@is.invalid> wrote:
The op wanted to view age-restricted videos, where the solutionsno, the op wanted to troll.
worked on
every platform except for on iOS, and where those solutions just
happened
to block all google-inserted ads (but that was just a bonus feature). >>>>>
Actually, the OP simply asked a question of all the operating systems.
the question was not sincere, nor was it the last gazillion times it
has been asked.
like i said, trolling.
The OP question was sincere and has not been asked a gazillion times.
It was:
«I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my
age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
So, you're saying it wasn't a "set up"?
In article <jdoamjx87j.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
The op wanted to view age-restricted videos, where the solutions
worked on every platform except for on iOS, and where those
solutions just happened to block all google-inserted ads (but
that was just a bonus feature).
no, the op wanted to troll.
Actually, the OP simply asked a question of all the operating
systems.
the question was not sincere, nor was it the last gazillion times
it has been asked.
like i said, trolling.
The OP question was sincere and has not been asked a gazillion times.
ok, maybe only a bazillion. the fact remains that it's not the first
time it's been asked nor will it be the last.
it's always the same playbook, with some concocted scenario followed
with the usual 'ios can't do it' bullshit.
In article <jdoamjx87j.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
The op wanted to view age-restricted videos, where the solutions worked >>>>>> onno, the op wanted to troll.
every platform except for on iOS, and where those solutions just happened
to block all google-inserted ads (but that was just a bonus feature). >>>>>
Actually, the OP simply asked a question of all the operating systems.
the question was not sincere, nor was it the last gazillion times it
has been asked.
like i said, trolling.
The OP question was sincere and has not been asked a gazillion times.
ok, maybe only a bazillion. the fact remains that it's not the first
time it's been asked nor will it be the last.
it's always the same playbook, with some concocted scenario followed
with the usual 'ios can't do it' bullshit.
early on, various people explained how to do whatever was asked on ios,
which were promptly ignored, making it very obvious that there was
never any interest in an actual answer.
in one case, a link to an app was provided for *both* android and ios,
except the person downloaded the wrong app for ios (it had the same
name, nothing more) and then claimed it didn't do what he wanted. the
correct app for ios had the same icon and developer as on android, but somehow that was 'overlooked'.
like i said, trolling.
On 2023-06-21 22:45, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-21 04:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-21 00:58, nospam wrote:
In article <u6t6pb$gnjv$1@news.mixmin.net>, Beyond the pale
<invalid@is.invalid> wrote:
the question was not sincere, nor was it the last gazillion times it
The op wanted to view age-restricted videos, where the solutions >>>>>>> worked on
every platform except for on iOS, and where those solutions just >>>>>>> happened
to block all google-inserted ads (but that was just a bonus
feature).
no, the op wanted to troll.
Actually, the OP simply asked a question of all the operating systems. >>>>
has been asked.
like i said, trolling.
The OP question was sincere and has not been asked a gazillion times.
It was:
«I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm
my age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
So, you're saying it wasn't a "set up"?
A setup? No, why?
Where you would have expected to see that video was this error instead.
"Video unavailable. https://youtu.be/29co_Hksk6o
The uploader has not made this video available in your country."
I've seen that a lot and I normally don't watch the video but having read
about this thread from a.f.n talking about it, I installed Win10 clipgrab.
I just use a VPN for that sort of thing.
to do what they claim to want to do, they must go outside the play
store for any solution (i.e., a workaround), yet any solution for ios
must be from the ios app store, no alternative method is acceptable.
the question was not sincere, nor was it the last gazillion times it
Actually, the OP simply asked a question of all the operating systems. >>>
has been asked.
like i said, trolling.
The OP question was sincere and has not been asked a gazillion times.
ok, maybe only a bazillion. the fact remains that it's not the first
time it's been asked nor will it be the last.
Frankly, I don't remember seeing that question "recently". Of course, I
do not read misc.phone.mobile.iphone. Has it been posted there a
bazillion times? I would not know.
it's always the same playbook, with some concocted scenario followed
with the usual 'ios can't do it' bullshit.
early on, various people explained how to do whatever was asked on ios, which were promptly ignored, making it very obvious that there was
never any interest in an actual answer.
Really? Sorry, I did not notice it. If it was posted, I can not try it.
Care to post the message id?
If those things had real value to most people, then more people would
not be buying iPhones.
Even your excuses don't make sense since ClipGrab isn't in the play store
nor is it outside the play store since Windows, Linux & Mac don't use it.
Really? Sorry, I did not notice it. If it was posted, I can not try it.
Care to post the message id?
It is a very simple question, and it was asked of four platforms, on the
four groups. Did you post a straight answer to it?
On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 16:40:04 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
If those things had real value to most people, then more people would
not be buying iPhones.
Your claim that nobody wants to watch youtube without signing in to prove their age is proven by Apple's profits shows what an iOS nutcase you are.
On 2023/06/21 3:41 pm, Alan Browne wrote:
Where you would have expected to see that video was this error instead.
"Video unavailable. https://youtu.be/29co_Hksk6o
The uploader has not made this video available in your country."
I've seen that a lot and I normally don't watch the video but having
read
about this thread from a.f.n talking about it, I installed Win10
clipgrab.
I just use a VPN for that sort of thing.
How is VPN going to consistently work when you have no idea the set of countries which are banned from viewing by the uploader of the video?
Your claim that nobody wants to watch youtube without signing in to prove
their age is proven by Apple's profits shows what an iOS nutcase you are.
Your post snipping and inability to understand the statement above
coupled to the retort below shows what an angry child troll you are.
How is VPN going to consistently work when you have no idea the set of
countries which are banned from viewing by the uploader of the video?
To date it's consistently been US sources so pretty easy to do.
If it's elsewhere and I really, really want to see it, I'll figure it
out and VPN there.
How is VPN going to consistently work when you have no idea the set of
countries which are banned from viewing by the uploader of the video?
To date it's consistently been US sources so pretty easy to do.
If it's elsewhere and I really, really want to see it, I'll figure it
out and VPN there.
What you're describing for Apple is what most would call a clusterfuck.
But if that's the only way you can do it on Apple,
Even your excuses don't make sense since ClipGrab isn't in the play store
nor is it outside the play store since Windows, Linux & Mac don't use it.
that's hilarious.
to do what they claim to want to do, they must go outside the play
store for any solution (i.e., a workaround), yet any solution for ios
must be from the ios app store, no alternative method is acceptable.
the hypocrisy is overflowing.
How is VPN going to consistently work when you have no idea the set of >>>> countries which are banned from viewing by the uploader of the video?
To date it's consistently been US sources so pretty easy to do.
If it's elsewhere and I really, really want to see it, I'll figure it
out and VPN there.
What you're describing for Apple is what most would call a clusterfuck.
using a vpn is hardly a clusterfuck on any platform, and it's no more difficult on a mac than anything else either.
But if that's the only way you can do it on Apple,
nobody said it was the only way.
I live in a sea of criminals :-)
And it wasn't always like this.
The first post is the question.
The second post he tries yt-dlp.exe and thanks Paul for it.
The third post is another answer to Paul, about yt-dlp, newpipe, and he
says there is no working solution for iOS.
Just those three posts. If somebody tried your proposed solution for
iOS, it was not him.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
In article <cc7cmjxaqb.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
the question was not sincere, nor was it the last gazillion times it >>>>> has been asked.
Actually, the OP simply asked a question of all the operating systems. >>>>>
like i said, trolling.
The OP question was sincere and has not been asked a gazillion times.
ok, maybe only a bazillion. the fact remains that it's not the first
time it's been asked nor will it be the last.
Frankly, I don't remember seeing that question "recently". Of course, I
do not read misc.phone.mobile.iphone. Has it been posted there a
bazillion times? I would not know.
it's been asked in the iphone group many times over the years, likely crossposted because that's what trolls do.
it's always the same playbook, with some concocted scenario followed
with the usual 'ios can't do it' bullshit.
early on, various people explained how to do whatever was asked on ios,
which were promptly ignored, making it very obvious that there was
never any interest in an actual answer.
Really? Sorry, I did not notice it. If it was posted, I can not try it.
Care to post the message id?
i don't mean early on in this particular thread.
by early on, i mean many years ago, when this question and other
similar 'scenarios' were originally asked and answers ignored, before
it became obvious it was a recurring theme.
On 2023-06-21 17:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-21 22:45, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-21 04:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-21 00:58, nospam wrote:
In article <u6t6pb$gnjv$1@news.mixmin.net>, Beyond the pale
<invalid@is.invalid> wrote:
The op wanted to view age-restricted videos, where the solutions >>>>>>>> worked on
every platform except for on iOS, and where those solutions just >>>>>>>> happened
to block all google-inserted ads (but that was just a bonus
feature).
no, the op wanted to troll.
Actually, the OP simply asked a question of all the operating
systems.
the question was not sincere, nor was it the last gazillion times it >>>>> has been asked.
like i said, trolling.
The OP question was sincere and has not been asked a gazillion
times. It was:
«I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm
my age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily
track.
So, you're saying it wasn't a "set up"?
A setup? No, why?
I'll go with set up. Points follow:
I) "I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track."
then
II) "Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?"
III) The video: < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8 >
Not exactly something anyone would care about being tracked to have seen
it.
So: If he wanted it for the Win/Lin/Andr OS', why X-post it to the
iPhone group other than to troll ...
IAC - anyone can easily set up a Google account that cannot be tracked
to a particular individual.
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
I live in a sea of criminals :-)
And it wasn't always like this.
A hiccup just happened.
Can you or someone try this age-restricted video please? https://youtu.be/nA67zm1LEg8
Deadly fight in the trench maze Military Mind TVP World
First ClipGrab wouldn't get it and then yt-dlp.exe wouldn't either.
yt-dlp.exe -U
How do I update the yt-dlp in the ClipGrab program?
I looked for an "update" button but I didn't see any.
Do you?
On 6/19/2023 8:23 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
Paul, how were you able to identify these two so, apparently, easily??
(I'm guessing there weren't queue forming in-front of either!)
Admittedly, I don't travel on PT all that often.
I live in a sea of criminals :-)
And it wasn't always like this.
Right after COVID stopped, the crims blossomed like weeds.
Practically every night, around 10PM, if I'm getting
a few groceries, someone will shoplift and get caught.
Some of the outfits they wear, so so cool.
When you see a dude wear a COVID mask and pull his hoodie
over his head, is it cold out ? Or is it 30C outside ? :-)
If a dude wears a trenchcoat (remember, it's 30C out there),
and when given a shake, a lot of stolen DVDs fall out,
how cool is that ? They'll even steal little bags of
Cheezy Poofs and other junk food. These would have
zero resale value.
On 2023/06/21 7:23 pm, Alan Browne wrote:
How is VPN going to consistently work when you have no idea the set of
countries which are banned from viewing by the uploader of the video?
To date it's consistently been US sources so pretty easy to do.
If it's elsewhere and I really, really want to see it, I'll figure it
out and VPN there.
What you're describing for Apple is what most would call a clusterfuck.
On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 20:22:13 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
Your claim that nobody wants to watch youtube without signing in to prove >>> their age is proven by Apple's profits shows what an iOS nutcase you are. >>Your post snipping and inability to understand the statement above
coupled to the retort below shows what an angry child troll you are.
I understand full well that you asked for what iOS couldn't do and I gave
you tons of things it can't do that every other system easily does.
On 2023/06/21 9:38 pm, nospam wrote:
How is VPN going to consistently work when you have no idea the set of >>>>> countries which are banned from viewing by the uploader of the video? >>>>To date it's consistently been US sources so pretty easy to do.
If it's elsewhere and I really, really want to see it, I'll figure
it out and VPN there.
What you're describing for Apple is what most would call a clusterfuck.
using a vpn is hardly a clusterfuck on any platform, and it's no more
difficult on a mac than anything else either.
But if that's the only way you can do it on Apple,
nobody said it was the only way.
It's a clusterfuck that isn't needed on any of the non-apple systems.
Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
On a Linux terminal:
yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
sudo curl -L https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases/latest/download/yt-dlp -o /usr/local/bin/yt-dlp
sudo chmod a+rx /usr/local/bin/yt-dlp # Make executable
sudo wget https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases/latest/download/yt-dlp -O /usr/local/bin/yt-dlp
sudo chmod a+rx /usr/local/bin/yt-dlp # Make executable
sudo aria2c https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases/latest/download/yt-dlp --dir /usr/local/bin -o yt-dlp
sudo chmod a+rx /usr/local/bin/yt-dlp # Make executable
sudo yt-dlp -U
On 2023-06-22 00:15, nospam wrote:
by early on, i mean many years ago, when this question and other
similar 'scenarios' were originally asked and answers ignored, before
it became obvious it was a recurring theme.
Well, this Wally J earlier posts are May 25 in the Android group, so I
don't think he would know that. He has not participated in the iOS bashing.
On 2023-06-21 23:44, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-21 17:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-21 22:45, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-21 04:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-21 00:58, nospam wrote:
In article <u6t6pb$gnjv$1@news.mixmin.net>, Beyond the pale
<invalid@is.invalid> wrote:
The op wanted to view age-restricted videos, where the
solutions worked on
every platform except for on iOS, and where those solutions
just happened
to block all google-inserted ads (but that was just a bonus
feature).
no, the op wanted to troll.
Actually, the OP simply asked a question of all the operating
systems.
the question was not sincere, nor was it the last gazillion times it >>>>>> has been asked.
like i said, trolling.
The OP question was sincere and has not been asked a gazillion
times. It was:
«I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm >>>>> my age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily
track.
So, you're saying it wasn't a "set up"?
A setup? No, why?
I'll go with set up. Points follow:
I) "I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track."
then
II) "Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?"
III) The video: < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8 >
Not exactly something anyone would care about being tracked to have
seen it.
Some people are more sensitive than others. I never watch youtube videos
in my computers while being logged in to Google.
So: If he wanted it for the Win/Lin/Andr OS', why X-post it to the
iPhone group other than to troll ...
I think you are too paranoid :-)
IAC - anyone can easily set up a Google account that cannot be tracked
to a particular individual.
I don't know how. The last account I setup they asked for my phone.
I have python 2, 3.6 and 3.10. yt-dlp is using 3.6. That's a problem
peculiar to my Linux distribution. It is solvable but I don't know how.
On 2023-06-22 06:51, Wally J wrote:
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
I live in a sea of criminals :-)
And it wasn't always like this.
A hiccup just happened.
Can you or someone try this age-restricted video please?
https://youtu.be/nA67zm1LEg8
Deadly fight in the trench maze Military Mind TVP World
First ClipGrab wouldn't get it and then yt-dlp.exe wouldn't either.
Yeah, it is the normal arms race between youtube and downloades. Youtube got wiser.
yt-dlp.exe -U
That appears to work for me, but then I get an exception when trying to use it:
Exception: You are using an unsupported version of Python. Only Python versions 3.7 and above are supported by yt-dlp
I have python 2, 3.6 and 3.10. yt-dlp is using 3.6. That's a problem peculiar to my Linux distribution. It is solvable but I don't know how.
Of course, not using "yt-dlp --update" but waiting for the normal update channel.
How do I update the yt-dlp in the ClipGrab program?
I looked for an "update" button but I didn't see any.
Do you?
I guess copying the file locally might work, but I don't know.
If you want iOS to do what everything else does, you may need
to call up Tim Cook and ask him nicely to let you put yt-dlp
onto His iPhone (but he's probably too busy shoving money into
his pockets so he won't care what you want to do with His iPhone).
Can you or someone try this age-restricted video please? https://youtu.be/nA67zm1LEg8
Deadly fight in the trench maze Military Mind TVP World
Frankly, I don't remember seeing that question "recently". Of course, I
do not read misc.phone.mobile.iphone. Has it been posted there a
bazillion times? I would not know.
it's been asked in the iphone group many times over the years, likely crossposted because that's what trolls do.
it's always the same playbook, with some concocted scenario followed
with the usual 'ios can't do it' bullshit.
early on, various people explained how to do whatever was asked on ios, >>> which were promptly ignored, making it very obvious that there was
never any interest in an actual answer.
Really? Sorry, I did not notice it. If it was posted, I can not try it.
Care to post the message id?
i don't mean early on in this particular thread.
Then it is not relevant.
by early on, i mean many years ago, when this question and other
similar 'scenarios' were originally asked and answers ignored, before
it became obvious it was a recurring theme.
Well, this Wally J earlier posts are May 25 in the Android group, so I
don't think he would know that. He has not participated in the iOS bashing.
What you're describing for Apple is what most would call a clusterfuck.
Not really. These edge cases are of little import to the vast majority
of smartphone users, Android or iOS.
If you want iOS to do what everything else does, you may need
to call up Tim Cook and ask him nicely to let you put yt-dlp
onto His iPhone (but he's probably too busy shoving money into
his pockets so he won't care what you want to do with His iPhone).
better to call someone who actually knows the answer, which is
obviously not what you think it is.
just because *you* can't figure out how (assuming you even tried, which
is almost certainly not the case) doesn't mean it can't be done. it
only means you're not as smart as you think you are and not actually interested in an answer.
I understand full well that you asked for what iOS couldn't do and I gave
you tons of things it can't do that every other system easily does.
Things that few people need or want on Android - never mind iOS.
Congrats on finding a 'cause' though
It's a clusterfuck that isn't needed on any of the non-apple systems.
If you label it such, it must be so?
One way to bypass geographic restrictions (if they happen to you) is to
use the yt-dlp "--geo-bypass" option (which is designed for that purpose).
It's a clusterfuck that isn't needed on any of the non-apple systems.
If you label it such, it must be so?
If you want iOS to do what everything else does, you may need
to call up Tim Cook and ask him nicely to let you put yt-dlp
onto His iPhone (but he's probably too busy shoving money into
his pockets so he won't care what you want to do with His iPhone).
better to call someone who actually knows the answer, which is
obviously not what you think it is.
just because *you* can't figure out how (assuming you even tried, which
is almost certainly not the case) doesn't mean it can't be done. it
only means you're not as smart as you think you are and not actually interested in an answer.
Why do you think the only consumer platform yt-dlp isn't ported to is iOS?
It's a clusterfuck that isn't needed on any of the non-apple systems.
If you label it such, it must be so?
One way to bypass geographic restrictions (if they happen to you) is to
use the yt-dlp "--geo-bypass" option (which is designed for that purpose).
it's one way, except that it's a clusterfuck compared to using a vpn,
which can be activated with a tap and works on all videos, web sites
and apps (until deactivated). however, those who insist on doing things
in the most convoluted method possible can still do that, even on ios.
It seems that in your desire to come up with those iOS clusterfucks, you forgot (or never knew) that a VPN download still needs a google account
while the yt-dlp solutions (on all platforms except iOS) don't need it.
On 2023-06-22 06:51, Wally J wrote:
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
yt-dlp.exe -U
That appears to work for me, but then I get an exception when trying to
use it:
Exception: You are using an unsupported version of Python. Only Python versions 3.7 and above are supported by yt-dlp
I have python 2, 3.6 and 3.10. yt-dlp is using 3.6. That's a problem
peculiar to my Linux distribution. It is solvable but I don't know how.
Of course, not using "yt-dlp --update" but waiting for the normal update channel.
On 2023-06-22 05:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-21 23:44, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-21 17:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
IAC - anyone can easily set up a Google account that cannot be
tracked to a particular individual.
I don't know how. The last account I setup they asked for my phone.
Asked. But not required.
In article <4hhdmjxdf5.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Frankly, I don't remember seeing that question "recently". Of course, I >>>> do not read misc.phone.mobile.iphone. Has it been posted there a
bazillion times? I would not know.
it's been asked in the iphone group many times over the years, likely
crossposted because that's what trolls do.
it's always the same playbook, with some concocted scenario followed >>>>> with the usual 'ios can't do it' bullshit.
early on, various people explained how to do whatever was asked on ios, >>>>> which were promptly ignored, making it very obvious that there was
never any interest in an actual answer.
Really? Sorry, I did not notice it. If it was posted, I can not try it. >>>>
Care to post the message id?
i don't mean early on in this particular thread.
Then it is not relevant.
it's relevant because it's the same playbook every time. the pattern is clear.
by early on, i mean many years ago, when this question and other
similar 'scenarios' were originally asked and answers ignored, before
it became obvious it was a recurring theme.
Well, this Wally J earlier posts are May 25 in the Android group, so I
don't think he would know that. He has not participated in the iOS bashing.
he would know that from previous posts under a different nym.
or he could avail himself of a search engine. they're quite useful.
or he could make baseless claims while pretending to know all about
devices he doesn't actually use.
In article <u72mdq$k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>, Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> wrote:
If you want iOS to do what everything else does, you may need
to call up Tim Cook and ask him nicely to let you put yt-dlp
onto His iPhone (but he's probably too busy shoving money into
his pockets so he won't care what you want to do with His iPhone).
better to call someone who actually knows the answer, which is
obviously not what you think it is.
just because *you* can't figure out how (assuming you even tried, which
is almost certainly not the case) doesn't mean it can't be done. it
only means you're not as smart as you think you are and not actually
interested in an answer.
Why do you think the only consumer platform yt-dlp isn't ported to is iOS?
why do you think it hasn't been?
rule of holes: stop digging.
You might post directly the answer instead.
People like me, who do not use iOS, will never investigate, but the
feeling will remain in the back of our minds after all this bickering
that iOS is simply less capable.
In article <9q3gmjxk4i.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
You might post directly the answer instead.
the answer was posted before, and more than once.
People like me, who do not use iOS, will never investigate, but the
feeling will remain in the back of our minds after all this bickering
that iOS is simply less capable.
that's very much false. as i said, the same questions are repeated and answers ignored. it's pure trolling.
On 17/06/23 07:54, Andy Burns wrote:
Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my
age
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
switch to incognito/private tab
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ...
On 6/22/23 3:04 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
I understand full well that you asked for what iOS couldn't do and I gave >>> you tons of things it can't do that every other system easily does.
Things that few people need or want on Android - never mind iOS.
Congrats on finding a 'cause' though
Nobody gets it.
You can't talk about Apple like that. Non on Usenet. It's not allowed.
If you discuss the truth - the Apple censors will derail the thread.
Meanwhile the Apple censors need to come up with a 'cause' that excuses
why yt-dlp runs on every other system discussed except the iOS platform.
yt-dlp works on linux
yt-dlp works on windows
yt-dlp works on android
yt-dlp works on the mac
yt-dlp doesn't exist on iOS
What do the Apple censors on this thread say is the 'cause' of that?
On 2023-06-22 23:16, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-22 05:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-21 23:44, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-21 17:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
...
IAC - anyone can easily set up a Google account that cannot be
tracked to a particular individual.
I don't know how. The last account I setup they asked for my phone.
Asked. But not required.
Indeed required. They did not allow me to continue.
We get it. A tiny, tiny, tiny subset of the Android base get their
jollies attacking Apple iOS over some edge case things that iPhone or
iOS does not do or permit.
...why yt-dlp runs on every other system discussed except the iOS platform.
And yet other discussions above (Micky, Carlos, et al) note that it
needs constant gardening by the user. Not exactly a smooth experience.
Would the average Android user go through such?
On 22/6/2023, Alan Browne wrote:
What you're describing for Apple is what most would call a clusterfuck.
Not really. These edge cases are of little import to the vast majority
of smartphone users, Android or iOS.
How do you explain why all these clearly rather useful utilities & programs are ported to every major platform... (mac, windows, linux and android)...
Except iOS?
What's so very different about iOS?
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
It's a clusterfuck that isn't needed on any of the non-apple systems.
If you label it such, it must be so?
One way to bypass geographic restrictions (if they happen to you) is to
use the yt-dlp "--geo-bypass" option (which is designed for that purpose).
Here's an explanation of the yt-dlp geographic restriction bypass option. https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/how-download-mp4-youtube-every-time
Here is their helpful example of the syntax to use that geographic bypass.
yt-dlp -f 137+140 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ -o %%(title)s.%%(ext)s
--geo-bypass Bypass geographic restriction via faking X-Forwarded-For HTTP header
-F List available formats of each video.
-f Video format code
-o Output filename template
yt-dlp works on linux
yt-dlp works on windows
yt-dlp works on android
yt-dlp works on the mac
yt-dlp can't work on iOS
Note that the geo-bypass option is actually set as the default in yt-dlp. Maybe that's why iOS users always have to employ those ridiculous clusterfucks.
People like me, who do not use iOS, will never investigate, but the
feeling will remain in the back of our minds after all this bickering
that iOS is simply less capable.
On 2023-06-23 13:18, nospam wrote:
In article <9q3gmjxk4i.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
You might post directly the answer instead.
the answer was posted before, and more than once.
Then post it for me. I'm not a troll.
People like me, who do not use iOS, will never investigate, but the
feeling will remain in the back of our minds after all this bickering
that iOS is simply less capable.
that's very much false. as i said, the same questions are repeated and answers ignored. it's pure trolling.
OTOH Apple's inter device integration (aka: the eco-system) is seamless.
There is nothing comparable in the Android / Windows / Linux mix. Not
even close. It's probably not achievable because of the disparate
players all trying to be top dog.
You might post directly the answer instead.
the answer was posted before, and more than once.
Then post it for me. I'm not a troll.
He won't, because he can't.
That's nospam's endless MO: Always saying
that a question has been asked many times before and has been answered
many times, but never [1] giving any references like URLs, message-ids,
etc..
What's so very different about iOS?
Apple's restrictions or app developer apathy. Don't like them, march on.
In article <u74igc.cdo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
You might post directly the answer instead.
the answer was posted before, and more than once.
Then post it for me. I'm not a troll.
He won't, because he can't.
he can, and has, and every single time, the trolls didn't care and kept
on with the bullshit.
That's nospam's endless MO: Always saying
that a question has been asked many times before and has been answered
many times, but never [1] giving any references like URLs, message-ids, etc..
look through older posts
and you should be able to find it.
there's this thing called a search engine. try it sometime.
You might post directly the answer instead.
the answer was posted before, and more than once.
Then post it for me. I'm not a troll.
He won't, because he can't.
he can, and has, and every single time, the trolls didn't care and kept
on with the bullshit.
Earth to nospam: You made the claim, Carlos asked for proof, you
provide the proof. End of story.
and you should be able to find it.
there's this thing called a search engine. try it sometime.
Earth to nospam: Search engines can't find things which aren't there.
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
OTOH Apple's inter device integration (aka: the eco-system) is seamless.
There is nothing comparable in the Android / Windows / Linux mix. Not
even close. It's probably not achievable because of the disparate
players all trying to be top dog.
But the trolls don’t care about ANY of that. Their mission is to “roll their own”, using multiple apps, systems and command-line gibberish.
All so that they can crow about “See how smart I am? I did all of this without paying the Apple Tax! I am not living in a ‘Walled Garden’!”
I know this, because I used to do this. I didn’t troll the Apple newsgroups, but 10 years ago I was an Apple Hater. I thought Windows was great. I was so stupid that I actually had Windows Phones. Still have a couple. They suck, but they had good cameras. Next I had Android
phones.
But then I had a flash of inspiration. I thought “Why The Hell Am I Wasting So Much Time On This Shit?” So I left The Dark Side and came into The Light. I got my first iPhone, a 6s Plus, around 2017. Used, from
eBay.
Life is MUCH better in a Gated Community than in a GD cave.
I have said it before, but it is worth repeating. If you like doing
things the hard way, then you will love Android.
On 2023-06-17 06:22, MarioCPPP wrote:
On 17/06/23 07:54, Andy Burns wrote:
Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm myswitch to incognito/private tab
age
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track. >>
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ...
Google do not require a phone number to set up an account.
They _ask_ for one. You can skip that.
Likewise a recovery e-mail address.
I only needed to provide a (bogus) first name, the (bogus) name part
of the (to be created) gmail.com address, a (bogus) birthday and could specify gender as 'rather don't say.
[The usual umpteen dodges and diversions deleted.]
Google do not require a phone number to set up an account.
They _ask_ for one. You can skip that.
Likewise a recovery e-mail address.
That is correct. That used to be the case and is still the case.
A few moments ago, I created a throw-away account and could indeed
skip the phone number and recovery e-mail address.
I only needed to provide a (bogus) first name, the (bogus) name part
of the (to be created) gmail.com address, a (bogus) birthday and could specify gender as 'rather don't say.
On Jun 23, 2023, Frank Slootweg wrote
(in article<news:u74m78.fmc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>):
Google do not require a phone number to set up an account.
They _ask_ for one. You can skip that.
Likewise a recovery e-mail address.
That is correct. That used to be the case and is still the case.
A few moments ago, I created a throw-away account and could indeed
skip the phone number and recovery e-mail address.
I only needed to provide a (bogus) first name, the (bogus) name part
of the (to be created) gmail.com address, a (bogus) birthday and could specify gender as 'rather don't say.
I suspect you are not using the VPN when creating the bogus Google account. The reason for that suspicion is that I've tried VPN many times & it fails.
Allow me to ask the question which wasn't answered in the prior posts.
Are you using a VPN (whether or not it's traced to you) and a one-time-only throwaway email address (whether or not it's traced to you) when you
created and _often used_ that bogus Google email account and therefore
bogus YouTube login when you thereafter frequently logged into that bogus Google account on YouTube to access those age-restricted videos?
I suspect not.
Google (normally) won't allow it.
People like me, who do not use iOS, will never investigate, but the
feeling will remain in the back of our minds after all this bickering
that iOS is simply less capable.
In the narrow edge cases cited. Sure. But - workarounds abound.
And from other discussions including yourself maintaining yt-dlp is a
thing - a thing that the average Android user wouldn't do.
Using an anonymous Google account (no phone number required; no recovery e-mail required) is a workaround for the OP's question (and it could be
handy for other reasons to have an anonymous account); and VPN's for iOS
come in many flavours.
The Apple eco-system makes daily use of Apple products at home and work
very seamless in ways that would be impossible to achieve with any mix
of Android and Linux, Windows, whatever watch, Homekit equivalents, etc.
and so on.
I suspect you are not using the VPN when creating the bogus Google account. >> The reason for that suspicion is that I've tried VPN many times & it fails.
No, I didn't use a VPN. The claim (by MarioCPPP) was that a Google
Account requires a telephone number. Alan Browne said that that was
incorrect and I confirmed it. That's all.
[...]
Allow me to ask the question which wasn't answered in the prior posts.
Are you using a VPN (whether or not it's traced to you) and a one-time-only >> throwaway email address (whether or not it's traced to you) when you
created and _often used_ that bogus Google email account and therefore
bogus YouTube login when you thereafter frequently logged into that bogus
Google account on YouTube to access those age-restricted videos?
I suspect not.
Google (normally) won't allow it.
You're shifting the goalposts, at least as far as this sub-thread is concerned. The OP nor MarioCPPP mentioned the need to be able to use a
VPN.
You may not have noticed that he has asked a new question, somewhat
related, and kept the iphone group out of it, to avoid this bickering.
that doesn't change what i said.
Yes, it does. The OP is not participating in that.
IAC - anyone can easily set up a Google account that cannot be
tracked to a particular individual.
I don't know how. The last account I setup they asked for my phone.
Asked. But not required.
Indeed required. They did not allow me to continue.
The OP posted about his problem as a Windows, Linux, Android issue. But x-posted to the iPhone group. Food fight!
The Apple guy is lying and the proof doesn't require Carlos to have an iOS device since the yt-dlp for iOS that nospam claims simply doesn't exist.
What's so very different about iOS?
Apple's restrictions or app developer apathy. Don't like them, march on.
very little is restricted. claims that apple locks things down are
easily debunked myths. it's almost always developer apathy or
incompetence. any time someone can't figure out how to do something,
they blame apple rather than their own lack of skill.
it's also not unique to apple. *every* platform has restrictions, and
in this case, video downloading, google prohibits the same thing apple
does, but somehow that must be ignored to fit the narrative.
if there's insufficient demand for a given app, regardless of platform,
it's not worth the effort to bother writing it. no platform can do
everything in every situation, despite the trolls claims to the
contrary.
In article <u74igc.cdo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
You might post directly the answer instead.
the answer was posted before, and more than once.
Then post it for me. I'm not a troll.
He won't, because he can't.
he can, and has, and every single time, the trolls didn't care and kept
on with the bullshit.
That's nospam's endless MO: Always saying
that a question has been asked many times before and has been answered
many times, but never [1] giving any references like URLs, message-ids,
etc..
look through older posts and you should be able to find it.
there's this thing called a search engine. try it sometime.
On 2023-06-23 05:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-22 23:16, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-22 05:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-21 23:44, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-21 17:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
...
IAC - anyone can easily set up a Google account that cannot be
tracked to a particular individual.
I don't know how. The last account I setup they asked for my phone.
Asked. But not required.
Indeed required. They did not allow me to continue.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/14e5yiuycwnwb8f/SkipPhone.png
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-17 06:22, MarioCPPP wrote:
On 17/06/23 07:54, Andy Burns wrote:
Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my >>>>> ageswitch to incognito/private tab
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track. >>>>
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE
number, the most personal information ever ...
Google do not require a phone number to set up an account.
They _ask_ for one. You can skip that.
Likewise a recovery e-mail address.
That is correct. That used to be the case and is still the case.
On Jun 23, 2023, Frank Slootweg wrote
(in article<news:u74m78.fmc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>):
Google do not require a phone number to set up an account.
They _ask_ for one. You can skip that.
Likewise a recovery e-mail address.
That is correct. That used to be the case and is still the case.
A few moments ago, I created a throw-away account and could indeed
skip the phone number and recovery e-mail address.
I only needed to provide a (bogus) first name, the (bogus) name part
of the (to be created) gmail.com address, a (bogus) birthday and could
specify gender as 'rather don't say.
I suspect you are not using the VPN when creating the bogus Google account. The reason for that suspicion is that I've tried VPN many times & it fails.
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
People like me, who do not use iOS, will never investigate, but the
feeling will remain in the back of our minds after all this bickering
that iOS is simply less capable.
In the narrow edge cases cited. Sure. But - workarounds abound.
There are probably a few thousand very useful apps not on iOS but on all
the other systems in this newsgroup line, only one of which is yt-dlp.
And from other discussions including yourself maintaining yt-dlp is a
thing - a thing that the average Android user wouldn't do.
Why is it that everyone else except iOS users wants privacy & anonymity?
You said the same thing that nobody on iOS needs the tor browser too.
What you have been doing is discounting each of the probably thousands of very useful apps that everyone else uses on the newsgroup list platforms
but which can ever be ported to iOS. Each one you say is a corner case.
What you're really saying, rather clearly, is iOS can't do what people
want. It can only do the very small subset of things that iOS users want.
Using an anonymous Google account (no phone number required; no recovery
e-mail required) is a workaround for the OP's question (and it could be
handy for other reasons to have an anonymous account); and VPN's for iOS
come in many flavours.
What you're claiming is probably a lie since Google gets wise to you
logging into VPN every day in order to watch those age-restricted videos.
The Apple eco-system makes daily use of Apple products at home and work
very seamless in ways that would be impossible to achieve with any mix
of Android and Linux, Windows, whatever watch, Homekit equivalents, etc.
and so on.
The iOS operating system doesn't do what every other operating system does.
On 2023-06-23 16:08, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-23 05:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-22 23:16, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-22 05:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-21 23:44, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-21 17:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
...
IAC - anyone can easily set up a Google account that cannot be
tracked to a particular individual.
I don't know how. The last account I setup they asked for my phone.
Asked. But not required.
Indeed required. They did not allow me to continue.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/14e5yiuycwnwb8f/SkipPhone.png
There was no skip button when I tried.
The Apple guy is lying and the proof doesn't require Carlos to have an iOS >> device since the yt-dlp for iOS that nospam claims simply doesn't exist.
the proof is that you flat out refuse to search for answers. your sole interest is trolling and lying.
On 23/6/2023, Alan Browne wrote:
The OP posted about his problem as a Windows, Linux, Android issue. But
x-posted to the iPhone group. Food fight!
On this newsgroup, we ask technical questions and we back up our answers.
You Apple weirdos don't seem to operate that way. All you do is complain.
The OP asked a question and the answer came back from multiple people that what he wants to do is easily done with the yt-dlp that is well supported.
What you don't like is that the yt-dlp works on all platforms except yours. Take that issue up on your own Apple weirdo newsgroup if you don't like it.
You Apple weirdos simply don't belong here.
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Having an account is a clusterfuck? Who would imagine!
Having an anonymous account is a clusterfuck? Don't say!
Maintaining the moving ball of yt-dlp seems to be more of a clusterfuck.
All you have on iOS are clusterfucks - which don't even work on VPN.
You're lying about the account because Google knows VPN better than you do. The question isn't whether or not you're lying - but WHY you're lying.
Are you trying to protect Apple's soiled honor because you don't like that yt-dlp works on linux
yt-dlp works on windows
yt-dlp works on android
yt-dlp works on the mac
yt-dlp can't work on iOS
If you claim you don't need to download geo-limited or age-restricted
videos, there still are thousands of other useful capabilities which are ported to each of the operating systems on the newsgroup line - except iOS.
Here's another that you need to use one more Apple clusterfuck for. https://www.google.com/search?q=why+isn%27t+the+tor+browser+on+iOS
The Tor project is ported to linux
The Tor project is ported to windows
The Tor project is ported to android
The Tor project is ported to the mac
The Tor project can not be ported to iOS
Do not bother to answer unless you write the specific and direct reply
to my question.
Like thousands of useful apps, yt-dlp is ported to everything except iOS.
see above, and you're deliberately ignoring the 'thousands of useful
apps' that only work on ios and *can't* work on any other platform.
The Apple guy is lying and the proof doesn't require Carlos to have an iOS >> device since the yt-dlp for iOS that nospam claims simply doesn't exist.
the proof is that you flat out refuse to search for answers. your sole interest is trolling and lying.
You can complain all you want that the github yt-dlp isn't ported to iOS.
Like thousands of useful apps, yt-dlp is ported to everything except iOS.
look through older posts and you should be able to find it.
there's this thing called a search engine. try it sometime.
Ok, I understand you refuse to answer me, because you don't have an appropriate answer.
I rest reinforced in my feeling that iOS simply
can't do it.
I must then remember to never buy an iOS device.
Why is it that everyone else except iOS users wants privacy & anonymity?
why is it you get so much wrong?
You will never run out of excuses for why iOS can't do what the others do.
you will never stop lying. there are no excuses.
I personally don't use Tor (lite) on my iPhone. Barely use it anywhere.
You guys are screaming loud for something that represents 1 out 10,000
users ... at best. Probably a far smaller number.
You will never run out of excuses for why iOS can't do what the others do.
you will never stop lying. there are no excuses.
You're the one who told Carlos that yt-dlp was ported to iOS when it's not.
On 2023-06-22 06:51, Wally J wrote:
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
I live in a sea of criminals :-)
And it wasn't always like this.
A hiccup just happened.
Can you or someone try this age-restricted video please?
https://youtu.be/nA67zm1LEg8
Deadly fight in the trench maze Military Mind TVP World
First ClipGrab wouldn't get it and then yt-dlp.exe wouldn't either.
Yeah, it is the normal arms race between youtube and downloades. Youtube
got wiser.
yt-dlp.exe -U
That appears to work for me, but then I get an exception when trying to
use it:
Exception: You are using an unsupported version of Python. Only Python versions 3.7 and above are supported by yt-dlp
I have python 2, 3.6 and 3.10. yt-dlp is using 3.6. That's a problem
peculiar to my Linux distribution. It is solvable but I don't know how.
On 2023-06-23 16:59, nospam wrote:
In article <u74igc.cdo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
You might post directly the answer instead.
the answer was posted before, and more than once.
Then post it for me. I'm not a troll.
He won't, because he can't.
he can, and has, and every single time, the trolls didn't care and
kept on with the bullshit.
That's nospam's endless MO: Always saying that a question has
been asked many times before and has been answered many times,
but never [1] giving any references like URLs, message-ids, etc..
look through older posts and you should be able to find it.
there's this thing called a search engine. try it sometime.
Ok, I understand you refuse to answer me, because you don't have an appropriate answer. I rest reinforced in my feeling that iOS simply
can't do it. I must then remember to never buy an iOS device.
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Do not bother to answer unless you write the specific and direct reply
to my question.
Like thousands of other useful programs, yt-dlp is ported to all but iOS.
Like thousands of other useful programs, yt-dlp is ported to all but iOS.
iOS is Unix, dumb ass. Of course it can run yt-dlp.
Like thousands of other useful programs, yt-dlp is ported to all but iOS.
iOS is Unix, dumb ass. Of course it can run yt-dlp.
How? With ish app?
Like thousands of other useful programs, yt-dlp is ported to all but iOS.
iOS is Unix, dumb ass. Of course it can run yt-dlp.
How? With ish app?
Like thousands of other useful programs, yt-dlp is ported to all but iOS. >>iOS is Unix, dumb ass. Of course it can run yt-dlp.
How? With ish app?
see other post or do a search. this isn't complex.
In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
Like thousands of other useful programs, yt-dlp is ported to all
but iOS.
iOS is Unix, dumb ass. Of course it can run yt-dlp.
How? With ish app?
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Like thousands of other useful programs, yt-dlp is ported to all but iOS.
iOS is Unix, dumb ass. Of course it can run yt-dlp.
How? With ish app?
see other post or do a search. this isn't complex.
Like thousands of other useful capabilities, yt-dlp is not ported to
iOS (even as yt-dlp is ported to every other operating system except
iOS).
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
Like thousands of other useful programs, yt-dlp is ported to all but iOS. >>iOS is Unix, dumb ass. Of course it can run yt-dlp.
How? With ish app?
The iOS yt-dlp that these Apple weirdos are claiming exists, doesn't exist.
Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
Like thousands of other useful programs, yt-dlp is ported to all
but iOS.
iOS is Unix, dumb ass. Of course it can run yt-dlp.
How? With ish app?
The iOS yt-dlp that these Apple weirdos are claiming exists, doesn't
exist.
Keep digging that hole, dumb ass. You might want to read ALL the
posts here before looking stupid again.
Hint: <https://github.com/tucomel/yt-dlp-ios#readme>
On 2023-06-22, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-06-22 06:51, Wally J wrote:
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
I live in a sea of criminals :-)
And it wasn't always like this.
A hiccup just happened.
Can you or someone try this age-restricted video please?
https://youtu.be/nA67zm1LEg8
Deadly fight in the trench maze Military Mind TVP World
First ClipGrab wouldn't get it and then yt-dlp.exe wouldn't either.
Yeah, it is the normal arms race between youtube and downloades. Youtube
got wiser.
yt-dlp.exe -U
That appears to work for me, but then I get an exception when trying to
use it:
Exception: You are using an unsupported version of Python. Only Python
versions 3.7 and above are supported by yt-dlp
I have python 2, 3.6 and 3.10. yt-dlp is using 3.6. That's a problem
peculiar to my Linux distribution. It is solvable but I don't know how.
may different options ... eg:
make 3.10 the default python or python3 version
edit the yt-dlp script to explicitly call 3.10
create a lauchher that does "python3.10 path/to/yt-dlp"
do the above manually each time.
In article <m68hmjxva6.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
look through older posts and you should be able to find it.
there's this thing called a search engine. try it sometime.
Ok, I understand you refuse to answer me, because you don't have an
appropriate answer.
you understand incorrectly. i *have* answered in the past,
Useful to a narrow sliver of users (Android).
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
The Apple guy is lying and the proof doesn't require Carlos to have an iOS >>> device since the yt-dlp for iOS that nospam claims simply doesn't exist.
the proof is that you flat out refuse to search for answers. your sole
interest is trolling and lying.
You can complain all you want that the github yt-dlp isn't ported to iOS. Like thousands of useful apps, yt-dlp is ported to everything except iOS.
On 2023-06-23, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-06-23 16:59, nospam wrote:
In article <u74igc.cdo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
You might post directly the answer instead.
the answer was posted before, and more than once.
Then post it for me. I'm not a troll.
He won't, because he can't.
he can, and has, and every single time, the trolls didn't care and
kept on with the bullshit.
That's nospam's endless MO: Always saying that a question has
been asked many times before and has been answered many times,
but never [1] giving any references like URLs, message-ids, etc..
look through older posts and you should be able to find it.
there's this thing called a search engine. try it sometime.
Ok, I understand you refuse to answer me, because you don't have an
appropriate answer. I rest reinforced in my feeling that iOS simply
can't do it. I must then remember to never buy an iOS device.
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... 🤣 but that's never stopped you dip shits before.
On 2023-06-23 17:53, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-17 06:22, MarioCPPP wrote:
On 17/06/23 07:54, Andy Burns wrote:
Wally J wrote:
I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my >>>>> age
But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
switch to incognito/private tab
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
email account)
it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE >>> number, the most personal information ever ...
Google do not require a phone number to set up an account.
They _ask_ for one. You can skip that.
Likewise a recovery e-mail address.
That is correct. That used to be the case and is still the case.
Well, I created an account about a year ago or two, and the phone was required. I found no way to go around it.
Maybe the requisites vary per country. Or they use some other criteria.
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... 🤣 but that's neverWow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always willing
stopped you dip shits before.
to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the people that
use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's left of the local
mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest iOS toy that will be
obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so I can know the joys of
iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the time,
I'd go into politics.
I'll stick with Mageia Linux. It does everything I want to do, for free,
on my existing equipment. And the Mageia community actually IS friendly
and helpful.
On 2023-06-24 10:13, Alan Browne wrote:
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" byPerhaps, perhaps not. I think more likely that the original question was innocent enough, and the android trolls seized upon it.
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
But the nastiness coming from the poor, misunderstood iOS advocates
far outweighs anything from any of the other platforms in this thread.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete with calling
iOS users many things.
On 2023-06-24 09:37, TJ wrote:
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... 🤣 but that'sWow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always
never stopped you dip shits before.
willing to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the
people that use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's left
of the local mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest iOS toy
that will be obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so I can
know the joys of iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the
time, I'd go into politics.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
On 2023-06-24 09:34, Alan Browne wrote:
So, if a user has a need for an application that isn't mainstream, don't bother with iOS.
Useful to a narrow sliver of users (Android).
Got it. Shouldn't be a problem.
On 2023-06-24 10:13, Alan Browne wrote:
Perhaps, perhaps not. I think more likely that the original question
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
was innocent
But the nastiness coming from the poor, misunderstood iOS advocates
far outweighs anything from any of the other platforms in this
thread.
On 2023-06-24, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
On 2023-06-24 10:13, Alan Browne wrote:
Perhaps, perhaps not. I think more likely that the original question
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
was innocent
Nope. It was an obvious troll setup from a long-time Apple-hating troll.
But the nastiness coming from the poor, misunderstood iOS advocates
far outweighs anything from any of the other platforms in this
thread.
Sure it does, Sparky. You guys are *always* "the real victims". 🤣👍🏼
On 2023-06-24, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-24 09:37, TJ wrote:
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... 🤣 but that'sWow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always
never stopped you dip shits before.
willing to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the
people that use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's left
of the local mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest iOS toy
that will be obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so I can
know the joys of iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the
time, I'd go into politics.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
Of course he's ignoring that. Also notice hos he slipped in his little
lie that iOS devices are supposedly obsolete after a year or two? He's
one of the trolls. 😉
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-24, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
On 2023-06-24 10:13, Alan Browne wrote:
Perhaps, perhaps not. I think more likely that the original question
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
was innocent
Nope. It was an obvious troll setup from a long-time Apple-hating troll.
But the nastiness coming from the poor, misunderstood iOS advocates
far outweighs anything from any of the other platforms in this
thread.
Sure it does, Sparky. You guys are *always* "the real victims". ???
Note that none of the trolls has returned to this thread, admitting they
were wrong. However, the aptly-named ?Peter? DID manage to prove that he is, in fact, a Dick.
The rest are conspicuous by their absence. There is no ?innocence? in any
of this.
Adults admit to being wrong. Trolls disappear for a few days and then
start all over again, with more (or even the same) absurd claims.
On 2023-06-24 10:48, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-06-24, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:Just trying to communicate in your own language, because it seems to
On 2023-06-24 09:37, TJ wrote:
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... 🤣 but that'sWow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always
never stopped you dip shits before.
willing to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the
people that use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's
left of the local mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest
iOS toy that will be obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so
I can know the joys of iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the
time, I'd go into politics.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
Of course he's ignoring that. Also notice hos he slipped in his
little lie that iOS devices are supposedly obsolete after a year or
two? He's one of the trolls. 😉
be the only way to get your attention.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-24, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
On 2023-06-24 10:13, Alan Browne wrote:
Perhaps, perhaps not. I think more likely that the original question
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
was innocent
Nope. It was an obvious troll setup from a long-time Apple-hating
troll.
But the nastiness coming from the poor, misunderstood iOS advocates
far outweighs anything from any of the other platforms in this
thread.
Sure it does, Sparky. You guys are *always* "the real victims".
🤣👍🏼
Note that none of the trolls has returned to this thread, admitting
they were wrong. However, the aptly-named “Peter” DID manage to
prove that he is, in fact, a Dick.
The rest are conspicuous by their absence. There is no “innocence” in any of this.
Adults admit to being wrong. Trolls disappear for a few days and then
start all over again, with more (or even the same) absurd claims.
It would have helped if the troll (trolls?) on the Apple side would
have come up with the goods, before you finally did.
(And of course, if the Apple side could manage to control themselves and stop responding to
obvious trolling. (Fat chance of that.))
The rest are conspicuous by their absence. There is no ?innocence? in any >> of this.
Agreed. As to "the rest", I think it's only one or two with many nyms,
but I could be wrong.
Adults admit to being wrong. Trolls disappear for a few days and then
start all over again, with more (or even the same) absurd claims.
Adults not only admit when they're wrong, but also don't pretend to
have the goods when they obviously don't and don't resort to trolling themselves.
Considering those qualities, there are very few adults in this thread.
In comp.mobile.android Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-24, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
On 2023-06-24 10:13, Alan Browne wrote:
Perhaps, perhaps not. I think more likely that the original
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS -
replete with calling iOS users many things.
question was innocent
Nope. It was an obvious troll setup from a long-time Apple-hating
troll.
But the nastiness coming from the poor, misunderstood iOS
advocates far outweighs anything from any of the other platforms
in this thread.
Sure it does, Sparky. You guys are *always* "the real victims". ???
Note that none of the trolls has returned to this thread, admitting
they were wrong. However, the aptly-named ?Peter? DID manage to
prove that he is, in fact, a Dick.
It would have helped if the troll (trolls?) on the Apple side
would have come up with the goods, before you finally did
And of course, if the Apple side could manage to control themselves
and stop responding to obvious trolling. (Fat chance of that.))
The rest are conspicuous by their absence. There is no ?innocence?
in any of this.
Agreed. As to "the rest", I think it's only one or two with many
nyms, but I could be wrong.
Adults admit to being wrong. Trolls disappear for a few days and
then start all over again, with more (or even the same) absurd
claims.
Adults not only admit when they're wrong, but also don't pretend to
have the goods when they obviously don't and don't resort to
trolling themselves.
Considering those qualities, there are very few adults in this
thread.
On 2023-06-24, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-24 09:37, TJ wrote:
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... 🤣 but that'sWow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always
never stopped you dip shits before.
willing to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the
people that use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's left
of the local mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest iOS toy
that will be obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so I can
know the joys of iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the
time, I'd go into politics.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
Of course he's ignoring that. Also notice hos he slipped in his little
lie that iOS devices are supposedly obsolete after a year or two? He's
one of the trolls. 😉
On 2023-06-23 15:31, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-23 16:08, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-23 05:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-22 23:16, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-22 05:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-06-21 23:44, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-21 17:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
...
Asked. But not required.IAC - anyone can easily set up a Google account that cannot be
tracked to a particular individual.
I don't know how. The last account I setup they asked for my phone. >>>>>
Indeed required. They did not allow me to continue.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/14e5yiuycwnwb8f/SkipPhone.png
There was no skip button when I tried.
When was that?
I just tried again, this time via VPN via Belgium. https://www.dropbox.com/s/de7rx67fjfowm3o/FF-VPN-PN.png
On 2023-06-24 10:48, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-06-24, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-24 09:37, TJ wrote:
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... 🤣 but that'sWow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always
never stopped you dip shits before.
willing to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the
people that use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's left
of the local mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest iOS toy
that will be obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so I can
know the joys of iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the
time, I'd go into politics.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
Of course he's ignoring that. Also notice hos he slipped in his little
lie that iOS devices are supposedly obsolete after a year or two? He's
one of the trolls. 😉
Wow - my near 4 year old iPhone 11 and my SO's near 7 year old iPhone 7
are hurt. Did I mention the original battery on her phone is at 82%?
Yet she uses it all day long for work.
(She will be getting a new one this fall).
On 2023-06-24 13:27, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-24 10:48, Jolly Roger wrote:My apologies. The only thing I know about iOS devices has come from this thread, and Apple marketing. I should have known better. It is the
On 2023-06-24, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-24 09:37, TJ wrote:
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... 🤣 but that'sWow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always
never stopped you dip shits before.
willing to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the
people that use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's left >>>>> of the local mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest iOS toy >>>>> that will be obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so I can
know the joys of iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the
time, I'd go into politics.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
Of course he's ignoring that. Also notice hos he slipped in his little
lie that iOS devices are supposedly obsolete after a year or two? He's
one of the trolls. 😉
Wow - my near 4 year old iPhone 11 and my SO's near 7 year old iPhone
7 are hurt. Did I mention the original battery on her phone is at
82%? Yet she uses it all day long for work.
(She will be getting a new one this fall).
latter that made me believe that Apple has it rigged so iOS devices stop working after a short time, so that the user must upgrade or be out of
luck. The idea fits right in with the rest of their visible strategy.
Meanwhile, my oldest desktop computer, circa 2007, is still fully
supported by Mageia 9 Linux, including ClipGrab from the distro's repositories.
On 2023-06-24, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
In comp.mobile.android Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-24, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
On 2023-06-24 10:13, Alan Browne wrote:
Perhaps, perhaps not. I think more likely that the original
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS -
replete with calling iOS users many things.
question was innocent
Nope. It was an obvious troll setup from a long-time Apple-hating
troll.
But the nastiness coming from the poor, misunderstood iOS
advocates far outweighs anything from any of the other platforms
in this thread.
Sure it does, Sparky. You guys are *always* "the real victims". ???
Note that none of the trolls has returned to this thread, admitting
they were wrong. However, the aptly-named ?Peter? DID manage to
prove that he is, in fact, a Dick.
It would have helped if the troll (trolls?) on the Apple side
Yes, the people in the Apple newsgroup who set you guys straight in this contrived "question" (where you all claimed iOS sucks because it can't
run yt-dlp and insulted people who dare to use Apple devices in the
process) by telling you that in fact yt-dlp does run on iOS devices are
"the real trolls, y'all". We should all definitely ignore everything
that was said to disprage Apple, iOS, and the supposedly stupid people
who dare to use their products up until someone set you straight. ?
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
It would have helped if the troll (trolls?) on the Apple side would
have come up with the goods, before you finally did.
He already did. Many times.
You must be new here. All of this has been gone over at least once that I can recall. Probably 3 or 4 times before I got here.
The fact is, if nospam says it can be done, then rest assured it can be
done. He knows more about iOS than everyone else here combined.
(And of course, if the Apple side could manage to control themselves and stop responding to
obvious trolling. (Fat chance of that.))
I agree with that. But some people just like to argue with strangers.
The rest are conspicuous by their absence. There is no ?innocence? in any >> of this.
Agreed. As to "the rest", I think it's only one or two with many nyms,
but I could be wrong.
Agreed again. It is the same person (maybe 2) posting from the same anonymous server. Sock puppetry at its finest. They are very easy to
spot.
Adults admit to being wrong. Trolls disappear for a few days and then
start all over again, with more (or even the same) absurd claims.
Adults not only admit when they're wrong, but also don't pretend to
have the goods when they obviously don't and don't resort to trolling themselves.
Again, nospam HAD the goods. That?s why he was BEGGING them to do a simple search.
But the trolls just KNEW they were right and did not bother.
Their sheer arrogance is just one of many things that makes the trolls so pathetic.
Considering those qualities, there are very few adults in this thread.
I would expand that to say that there are very few adults anywhere on
usenet.
My apologies. The only thing I know about iOS devices has come from this thread, and Apple marketing. I should have known better. It is the
latter that made me believe that Apple has it rigged so iOS devices stop working after a short time, so that the user must upgrade or be out of
luck. The idea fits right in with the rest of their visible strategy.
Oh, and I'm fully aware that Microsoft does the same with Windows, as
does Alphabet with Android.
Meanwhile, my oldest desktop computer, circa 2007, is still fully
supported by Mageia 9 Linux, including ClipGrab from the distro's repositories.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-24, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
In comp.mobile.android Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-24, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
On 2023-06-24 10:13, Alan Browne wrote:
Perhaps, perhaps not. I think more likely that the original
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup"
by Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS -
replete with calling iOS users many things.
question was innocent
Nope. It was an obvious troll setup from a long-time
Apple-hating troll.
But the nastiness coming from the poor, misunderstood iOS
advocates far outweighs anything from any of the other
platforms in this thread.
Sure it does, Sparky. You guys are *always* "the real victims".
???
Note that none of the trolls has returned to this thread,
admitting they were wrong. However, the aptly-named ?Peter? DID
manage to prove that he is, in fact, a Dick.
It would have helped if the troll (trolls?) on the Apple side
Yes, the people in the Apple newsgroup who set you guys straight in
this contrived "question" (where you all claimed iOS sucks because it
can't run yt-dlp and insulted people who dare to use Apple devices in
the process) by telling you that in fact yt-dlp does run on iOS
devices are "the real trolls, y'all". We should all definitely ignore
everything that was said to disprage Apple, iOS, and the supposedly
stupid people who dare to use their products up until someone set you
straight. ?
Earth to Jolly Roger: Before blasting bollocks, you might want to
check who is who.
I - and Carlos - (or better Carlos and I) never claimed that iOS
couldn't run yt-dlp, we only asked for URLs of proof that it can, as
said proof was never given.
On 2023-06-24 09:37, TJ wrote:
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... 🤣 but that's neverWow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always willing
stopped you dip shits before.
to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the people
that use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's left of the
local mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest iOS toy that
will be obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so I can know the
joys of iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the time,
I'd go into politics.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete with calling
iOS users many things.
Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
It would have helped if the troll (trolls?) on the Apple side would
have come up with the goods, before you finally did.
He already did. Many times.
You must be new here. All of this has been gone over at least once
that I can recall. Probably 3 or 4 times before I got here.
Rest assured, I'm not 'new' here.
The fact is, if nospam says it can be done, then rest assured it can
be done. He knows more about iOS than everyone else here combined.
I - and many others - are fully aware of nospam's antics. He was
kindly asked - by a "well respected poster" 🤡
On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 14:40:00 -0400, TJ wrote:
My apologies. The only thing I know about iOS devices has come from
this thread, and Apple marketing. I should have known better. It is
the latter that made me believe that Apple has it rigged so iOS
devices stop working after a short time, so that the user must
upgrade or be out of luck. The idea fits right in with the rest of
their visible strategy.
Oh, and I'm fully aware that Microsoft does the same with Windows, as
does Alphabet with Android.
Meanwhile, my oldest desktop computer, circa 2007, is still fully
supported by Mageia 9 Linux, including ClipGrab from the distro's
repositories.
Actually,
On 2023-06-24 16:13, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-24 09:37, TJ wrote:
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... 🤣 but that'sWow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always
never stopped you dip shits before.
willing to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the
people that use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's left
of the local mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest iOS toy
that will be obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so I can
know the joys of iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the
time, I'd go into politics.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
No, it wasn't.
It was exploited by both android fanatics and iOS fanatics that took
the bait
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
It would have helped if the troll (trolls?) on the Apple side would
have come up with the goods, before you finally did.
He already did. Many times.
Mageia? Thought that was a dead end. I use Ubuntu - though since IFar from it. The developers are preparing the RC for Mageia 9 right now. Assuming nothing untoward shows up from that, the Official release will
found a tool to re-compile an IDE for Mac, haven't needed it for some time.
--
On 2023-06-24 16:13, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-24 09:37, TJ wrote:
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... ? but that's neverWow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always willing
stopped you dip shits before.
to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the people
that use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's left of the
local mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest iOS toy that
will be obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so I can know the
joys of iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the time,
I'd go into politics.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete with calling
iOS users many things.
No, it wasn't.
It was exploited by both android fanatics and iOS fanatics that took the
bait and exacerbated the flames.
The original poster that started the
thread took no part in it.
It would have helped if the troll (trolls?) on the Apple side would
have come up with the goods, before you finally did.
He already did. Many times.
You must be new here. All of this has been gone over at least once that I can recall. Probably 3 or 4 times before I got here.
The fact is, if nospam says it can be done, then rest assured it can be
done. He knows more about iOS than everyone else here combined.
Adults admit to being wrong. Trolls disappear for a few days and then
start all over again, with more (or even the same) absurd claims.
Adults not only admit when they're wrong, but also don't pretend to
have the goods when they obviously don't and don't resort to trolling themselves.
Again, nospam HAD the goods. Thats why he was BEGGING them to do a simple search. But the trolls just KNEW they were right and did not bother.
Their sheer arrogance is just one of many things that makes the trolls so pathetic.
Yes, the people in the Apple newsgroup who set you guys straight in this contrived "question" (where you all claimed iOS sucks because it can't
run yt-dlp and insulted people who dare to use Apple devices in the process) by telling you that in fact yt-dlp does run on iOS devices are "the real trolls, y'all". We should all definitely ignore everything
that was said to disprage Apple, iOS, and the supposedly stupid people
who dare to use their products up until someone set you straight. ?
Earth to Jolly Roger: Before blasting bollocks, you might want to
check who is who.
I - and Carlos - (or better Carlos and I) never claimed that iOS
couldn't run yt-dlp, we only asked for URLs of proof that it can, as
said proof was never given.
The only thing I know about iOS devices has come from this
thread, and Apple marketing. I should have known better. It is the
latter that made me believe that Apple has it rigged so iOS devices stop working after a short time, so that the user must upgrade or be out of
luck. The idea fits right in with the rest of their visible strategy.
Oh, and I'm fully aware that Microsoft does the same with Windows, as
does Alphabet with Android.
Meanwhile, my oldest desktop computer, circa 2007, is still fully
supported by Mageia 9 Linux, including ClipGrab from the distro's repositories.
On 2023-06-24, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-06-24 16:13, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-24 09:37, TJ wrote:
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... 🤣 but that'sWow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always
never stopped you dip shits before.
willing to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the
people that use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's left
of the local mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest iOS toy
that will be obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so I can
know the joys of iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the
time, I'd go into politics.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
No, it wasn't.
Yes, it was. That was the *entire* point of cross posting it to the
Apple news groups.
It was exploited by both android fanatics and iOS fanatics that took
the bait
You just inadvertently admitted you know it was bait from the start.
On 2023-06-24 16:13, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-24 09:37, TJ wrote:
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... 🤣 but that's never >>>> stopped you dip shits before.Wow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always
willing to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the
people that use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's left
of the local mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest iOS toy
that will be obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so I can
know the joys of iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the
time, I'd go into politics.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by
Android trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete
with calling iOS users many things.
No, it wasn't.
It was exploited by both android fanatics and iOS fanatics that took the
bait and exacerbated the flames. The original poster that started the
thread took no part in it.
Then the herd came a runnin'
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-06-24 16:13, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-06-24 09:37, TJ wrote:
On 2023-06-23 21:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
You kids are looking *really* stupid right now... ? but that's never >>>>> stopped you dip shits before.Wow, what a friendly, helpful group you iOS people are. Always willing >>>> to help the uneducated learn just how wonderful iOS and the people
that use it are. Makes me want to go right out to what's left of the
local mall and put myself into debt to buy the latest iOS toy that
will be obsolete and useless in a year or two, just so I can know the
joys of iOS for myself.
Nah, if I wanted to be nasty, elitist, and argumentative all the time, >>>> I'd go into politics.
You're ignoring the fact that this whole topic was a "setup" by Android
trolls to make their usual dreary case about iOS - replete with calling
iOS users many things.
No, it wasn't.
It wasn't a setup by Android trollS (plural), but it was a setup/
troll, because it was crossposted to the iPhone group, while the poster ("Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam>") only talked about "Windows,
Linux or Android".
Message-ID: <u6j663$376e0$1@news.mixmin.net>
N.B. Mixmin has (recently) been shut down. I wonder why!?
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It was exploited by both android fanatics and iOS fanatics that took the
bait and exacerbated the flames.
Correct.
The original poster that started the
thread took no part in it.
False (see above).
(JR, got your new glasses yet?)
On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 16:27:04 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
Then the herd came a runnin'
If the OP hadn't included iOS cultists, this thread would have been
normal.
The OP did ask all the operating systems
but the "herd" that caused all the commotion was ONLY from the Apple cultists
and the OP didn't even participate in any of that commotion. He left
when he had his answer.
As long as you keep those very strange Apple culists OUT of the thread.
On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 16:27:04 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
Then the herd came a runnin'
If the OP hadn't included iOS cultists, this thread would have been normal.
The OP did ask all the operating systems but the "herd" that caused all the commotion was ONLY from the Apple cultists, and the OP didn't even participate in any of that commotion. He left when he had his answer.
Trust me, I've been there. At one time (the time which broke the
camel's back), after the usual many rounds of dodges and diversions, he 'countered' me with my own argument, i.e. he argued my argument as if it
was his. How stupid can you get?
Meanwhile, my oldest desktop computer, circa 2007, is still fullyif that fits your needs, great, however, it's nowhere near as fast as a modern system and doesn't do as much either.
supported by Mageia 9 Linux, including ClipGrab from the distro's
repositories.
On 2023-06-24, Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 16:27:04 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
Then the herd came a runnin'
If the OP hadn't included iOS cultists, this thread would have been
normal.
The OP is a nym-switching Apple hater who regularly posts contrived "questions" cross posted to the Apple newsgroups with the goal of coming
back with another nym to claim "iOS can't do blah, and Apple users are
dumb".
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From: Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject: I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 22:36:19 -0400
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The OP did ask all the operating systems
It was obvious bait.
but the "herd" that caused all the commotion was ONLY from the Apple cultists
Yes, yes, pointing out disinformation is bad you see. People who do that
are the real problem, and the trolls are the true victims.
and the OP didn't even participate in any of that commotion. He left
when he had his answer.
Yes, I'm sure you'd love everyone to ignore that the OP is a
nym-switching troll who does this regularly.
As long as you keep those very strange Apple culists OUT of the thread.
The people in the Apple news groups aren't the ones cross posting
obvious troll bait to your groups, and would love it if you bozos
stopped this behavior.
Yes, I'm sure you'd love everyone to ignore that the OP is a
nym-switching troll who does this regularly.
prove it.
On 2023-06-24 22:51, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-06-24, Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 16:27:04 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
Then the herd came a runnin'
If the OP hadn't included iOS cultists, this thread would have been
normal.
The OP is a nym-switching Apple hater who regularly posts contrived
"questions" cross posted to the Apple newsgroups with the goal of
coming back with another nym to claim "iOS can't do blah, and Apple
users are dumb".
I doubt it, because he started a second thread, similar, in which
iphone group was not included.
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From: Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject: I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 22:36:19 -0400
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The OP did ask all the operating systems
It was obvious bait.
but the "herd" that caused all the commotion was ONLY from the Apple
cultists
Yes, yes, pointing out disinformation is bad you see. People who do
that are the real problem, and the trolls are the true victims.
and the OP didn't even participate in any of that commotion. He left
when he had his answer.
Yes, I'm sure you'd love everyone to ignore that the OP is a
nym-switching troll who does this regularly.
prove it.
As long as you keep those very strange Apple culists OUT of the
thread.
The people in the Apple news groups aren't the ones cross posting
obvious troll bait to your groups, and would love it if you bozos
stopped this behavior.
Meanwhile, my oldest desktop computer, circa 2007, is still fullyif that fits your needs, great, however, it's nowhere near as fast as a modern system and doesn't do as much either.
supported by Mageia 9 Linux, including ClipGrab from the distro's
repositories.
I said it was "fully supported," and it is.
I did not say I use it on a daily basis. The computers I use with Mageia
on a daily basis are a laptop from 2013, another from 2010, and a
desktop with a motherboard from 2011. The laptops were purchased used,
and I built the desktop using parts from salvagers on eBay.
After replacing rust drives with SSDs and maximizing potential RAM,
these machines are MUCH faster than with their factory-installed Windows (especially that Windows 8 laptop - what a disaster THAT was), but each
has so far easily handled everything I've thrown at them with Linux.
Wow - my near 4 year old iPhone 11 and my SO's near 7 year old iPhone 7
are hurt. Did I mention the original battery on her phone is at 82%?
Yet she uses it all day long for work.
(She will be getting a new one this fall).
And as JR has pointed out, the "cause celebre" (see topic) was handily settled in iOS. So, yeah, problem over-blown. Should quiet the Android children somewhat.
In article <dt2kmjx64b.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Yes, I'm sure you'd love everyone to ignore that the OP is a
nym-switching troll who does this regularly.
prove it.
read the threads in this newsgroup for the past 10+ years.
Yes, I'm sure you'd love everyone to ignore that the OP is a
nym-switching troll who does this regularly.
prove it.
read the threads in this newsgroup for the past 10+ years.
Nonono. You do the proving, it is you who did the claim.
In article <78mlmjxq6r.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Yes, I'm sure you'd love everyone to ignore that the OP is a
nym-switching troll who does this regularly.
prove it.
read the threads in this newsgroup for the past 10+ years.
Nonono. You do the proving, it is you who did the claim.
the threads *are* the proof.
there are many, many threads in the iphone and ipad newsgroups where
you can see the same types of set-ups and rejection of all answers.
it's *very* obvious to the regulars.
It seems inevitable that we'll just keep on responding
to these cross-posted troll threads.
That's the only thing that is obvious to me at the moment.
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